cheap/effective expensive/effective Although DB is much more powerful, it is useless for training, as the time between attacks is enough for someone to steal the kill i believe, and the mage short can easily be made, or bought for under 10k, and is one of the best range trainers for people with low cash. (chins cannon crystal bow all are better, but more expensive) In my opinion, the DB is for quick fast kills, and more of a pk orientated weapon, and the mage short is overall rounded for everything (training, pking)