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Looking good, hope they can pull it off :thumbup:

Take a stroll around the Wilderness, Free Trade, Rants, and Future Updates forums. You'll see. OT: I dont care when it comes. It saddens me further that people can't grasp the concept that there's more than one timezone, and a midnight release in the States (Even there it'll vary by 3 hours) will be a 5pm release for Eastern Australia.

If anything to do with the update, probably grief in monks robes with a dds; some dunging or slaying is more likely though.

More OT: Invest in a whip and then 70 pray before anything else.

Yeah, or MSB with steel arrows, or darts/knifes if the target doesn't have much ranged defense.

No. to both questions? Unsure of the first, but I don't see why it wouldn't work; but kebbit bolts aren't worth it, just use a rune cbow+broad bolts.

Antifires don't work for wyverns fyi, cmaul only works there with soulsplit and a uni + cannoning. And the cost of using a divine is only offset when bossing so if it's just for slayer I'd say no since you barely take any damage slaying anyway.

No.

That's a pretty terrible main moneymaker, but I would say train your gathering skills to around 40-50ish and that might gives you some decent, if slow, starting capital.

Players manually choosing the items they want saved isn't the only choice here, they could also set up the system to be based on market prices so things like void would still have some risk attached to their use. If it was based on the market price, it would cause even more problems as the items price on death could fluctate while you're using them, causing you to suddenly keep different items than you thought you would, mid-way through your PKing/boss/other dangerous activity trip. I'd be surprised if two items were very close to the same price but one was kept on death and another wasn't. Besides then you'd basically still retain the same amount of wealth just different items which, unless it's an untradable or is hard to obtain (Which should diminish with free trade), usually wouldn't cause undue annoyance. Everything would stabilize eventually though, and I doubt it would cause long lasting economic harm. Everything would stabilise eventually, but it could have drastic effects on profits made from places like Barrows or TDs in the short-term, which could heavily effect the profit rate of certain bosses, effecting their popularity. Eventually it could even push Jagex to intefer with the boss/bosses in question's drops, tweaking drop rates or adding additional drops, if the market was taking too long to stabilise. I could see things like Barrows helms crashing, but at the same time some other pieces of equipment would rise since those were lost so it'd actually be roughly equivalent. And TD's are one of the top tier money makers right now even with claws decreasing like they have been, so another crash would have to be extreme for their popularity to decrease noticeably. I don't exactly know what you are implying with "tweaking", and thus far JaGeX has only increased drop rates, never decreased them, if that affects your response. While this isn't technically a problem, it could cause a massive shift in the rarity of higher end gear, causing it either to be too far out of reach for the average player to afford, or so cheap that it makes other gear redundant and Jagex is pressured into rushing out higher-levelled gear when the game isn't ready for it. Albeit extreme examples, they do expose some of the potential threats of giving players the ability to effectively muck around with the economy. It wouldn't be redundant if the stats are markedly different and are useful for varying purposes. I can see what you're saying about price crashes/out of reach armor leading to stagnation and wanting more things to aim for but I just honestly don't see that happening with free trade. Or the server, or your pc, or the weather, or a ddos attack; I do agree you should know the price of death but always blaming the dead isn't the best position to take. I didn't mean that the death was the fault of the player, merely that (s)he should have known the risk. No matter how confident you are, you always have a chance of losing your items and you should always be prepared for that eventuality if it happens, rather than trying to shift the blame onto someone else. If I was PKing in a phat and disconnected and lost it, people would say it was my fault for risking such an expensive item in PvP, the same goes with any other item in any other dangerous activity. The thing is there's expensive items, like phats and rares, that players wear just to show off wealth, and then there is expensive equipment that actually gives you an advantage in combat. There are also certain strategies that only involve risk if you're lagged out somehow, like say using chaotic rapier+ddef at metal dragons with super antifires, a low risk activity unless something unexpected happens. I just believe that there are just some things that should carry less risk than others, and if you don't well I do believe we have reached an impass :P I also agree with the quote above, I just didn't know how to phrase it.

Runite limbs alch for 9k and rune platebodies alch for 39k, despite 39k/5 being 7.8k. The price of items on death was determined by Jagex in order to retain risk of item loss. If you could choose which items to keep, using items like Void or Armadyl would be a much safer process, resulting in prices of said items dropping and/or the prices of items dropped where they are used. The kept-on-death values make up a very intricate system, which could be extensively abused if Jagex were to enable us to keep whichever three/four items we choose. While they might have made some errors in judging the usefulness of certain items, it's nowhere near as anarchaic as it would be if players were left to control the protection value of their items. Players manually choosing the items they want saved isn't the only choice here, they could also set up the system to be based on market prices so things like void would still have some risk attached to their use. It could even cause mass price fluctuations with sets of armour similar to Barrows, people PKing in Dharok's would just set the helm to protect causing its price to drop and prices of whatever is currently the cheapest to rise, the sheer potential damage it could cause to the price of commonly used items could result in economic turmoil. Everything would stabilize eventually though, and I doubt it would cause long lasting economic harm. Despite that though, you are fully aware of what you are risking when you enter a dangerous area. The loss of your items in dangerous area, after you have been warned multiple times not to take items you aren't willing to lose, is the fault of no one/nothing but yourself. Or the server, or your pc, or the weather, or a ddos attack; I do agree you should know the price of death but always blaming the dead isn't the best position to take.

This pretty much sums it all up. You could switch out the barrows armor for prossy and have pro melee on. iirc wyverns only use range when they can't melee you. Nope, they use all the combat styles even if you are in melee range, and the range attack is FAR more dangerous than the melee one, you want to have defense when you fight these things.

Well let's just say it's not permanent. The big problem is that you don't know when it won't be there, at least with the bow you'll know exactly how much longer you have until you need to repair it and can plan your trips accordingly. That and cost per shot seem to be the only advantage though.

Just quick note that you may want to do Elemental Workshop 3 for a Body Shield. EDIT: To below, wow I did know that it was that bad :wall:

Alternatively if you have access to the Resource Dungeon in the Dwarven Mines you can powermine iron and there's a bank deposit box literally right there.

You're not cutting time in half, you're cutting the cost of bursting/barraging in half (Still a good idea though, or just buy the robes and recharge when needed, don't take too long to buy and cheaper than Ahrim's), which is only a portion of the cost considering shards and secondaries. Don't do it all in one go, first aim for 79/83, then 88, then 92, and finally 96. You'll burn out if you try and do it all in one go, and since you get a lot of refunds back at the end of each go with the 70% shards back at pet shops buying everything at once seems like a lot more than it will actually turn out to be (Plus you'll be investing almost all your capital at once, bad). Overall it's hard to say, 60mil maybe?

And if this happens they should swing back up after dropping for a while, but not for very long so take advantage of the cresting when you can.

I do think that fish prices will go down, but I doubt there will be a real deflation across the board. I think that the harder to get items/more expensive items will see a nice increase in price while easier to get items will see a decrease. My reasoning is this, with the advent of free trade - tons of money will be added to the market. \ Some of it will be from people hoarding different accounts and finally getting a chance to consolidate all their wealth or that people can bot more on multiple accounts to get money. How so? More rare items may be easier to trade and will be added into the market, but that won't change the amount of money in the economy, just how it's circulating. Now with the easy to get items, i.e fish, ores, logs, etc will drop in price because there will be an influx of these items (increase in supply) I presume you mean from the number of bots? - while demand may or may not go up (but definitely won't increase as fast as supply). This will definitely lead to a decrease in price. Harder to get items, gs/3rd age armors/dragon claws/things to that nature will see a constant supply. There certainly aren't too many dropping everyday (plus it's been the same this way for months) while the number of people who can afford them will increase. Constant supply + increase of demand = price hijack. However, there's no extent in predicting how intensive the changes will be - they could be a few k increase/decrease in price or hundreds of thousands of gold in price change. Agreed, the market's going to be extremely volatile for a while. Additionally, there seem to be more merchant-ing guild/clans and there's no way in telling what they're going to do. Merching clans should be pretty much dead, since prices won't be so easy to manipulate. We also have to see how easy the revs are killed in the dungeon, and if the amount of statuettes they'll drop will have an effect close to when they were part of the pking drop table.

Pretty sure they mean immediately, and by normally you just mean previously which is apparently something they're changing from the old wildy.

He ends a sentence with a colon instead of a period, I think we can safely ignore this prophecy of doom; even hobos with cardboard signs on the side of streets have better spelling and grammar.

This thread may help you find more competent dg'ing companions.

I doubt that you NEED to bring 10mil of supplies to kill Bork, and I'm pretty sure you can kill most of the ct monsters in other areas (If not as well or easily).

Ice gloves are just if you want to wield a weapon at the smoke boss iirc, not necessary but useful.

Sounds like he did it because F2Pers chat more while fishing apparently, I always found Pisc Colony and Catherby fairly chatty though.