Yeah, but that was ages ago when this was still planned as an activity. Currently, it's not an activity. It's a skill. If you think Castle Wars can be a successful skill, you're wrong. There is no definition of a runescape skill. Dungeoneering(for ****'s SAKE the name....) is, in many ways, alot differant to all the other skills, but is it really a bad thing? I hate agility and runecrafting. Hate them. But the fact is, remarkably, i don't have to train skills i hate. Dungeoneering is a skill, and if you don't like it, don't train it. If you don't like the team aspect of the game, you can solo(some people train fm on maple/willow). If your stats are too low to gain meaningful experiance, it's certainly not jagex'es fault, as they have done everything to make all the skills kiddishly easy. If castle wars was a skill, i'd suffer to train it up to ~80 and stop. Also, it's funny looking at people prematurely saying that a skill is unsuccesful, farming really sucks, doesn't it? Actually farming does suck. Its like a job. You have to mind a clock like your at work. You can't just pick it up whenever and train the hell out of it till your bored. Oh and Vinesweeper is like solo dungeoneering but less fun and alot less xp. Oh and did I mention that its the most expensive skill to train nowadays...