Golvellius

I was DIY for a long time. I only traded and sold stuff to get armour and weapons. It was alot of fun in the old days (05-06), but sadly Jagex doesn't recognize you and has all but killed DIY with the ludicrous money that was given out from coinshare. Sadly I ruined my account by buying prayer levels from 90 to 98 when a friend gave me his phat after he quit. It felt like nothing like an accomplishment getting to 98, so I went and got my last level at pest control like a real player. Its hard to go back to DIY once you start buying though. I was able to do 99 smithing, crafting, fletching with clay tools that I collected myself which made it more of an accomplishment. My advice, don't listen to the knuckle draggers on this forum. They preach the same bs over and over: farming is great money, buy your skills its a multiplayer game, summoning rocks... Just play your game. You'll enjoy it more.

Its lag. You probably clicked the right thing but the game never registered it. They changed alot of the game mechanics when they screwed over the banks last year. Before that, you could click on something in your bank and you would get just that, if lag was bad then you would get nothing. Now, when you get bad lag, you get something else. This problem occurs for all menus as well. Hell, you also can get people added to your friends list while at crowded places like the GE. You can thank 2008's garbage year for your misery this year.

The new animation for Dharok is just wretched. They take the crush attack upcut and give it to the godsword, move over the normal slash attack to crush, and then have a slash attack that looks like your wcing. New holding position sucks too, it was nice holding that big axe up over your shoulder. Why don't they leave things alone and go remodel the leprechuans again....

You ought to know better than to use 3rd party crap or take things you don't want to loose across the ditch.

Shows you who Jagex is designing the game for no matter what president BS writes in his clan chat. :-#

It had a lot of mystique in the old days when only a few people could drop whips and they were worth alot. But its rep is just riding on those fumes to be honest. In reality, its gone quite stale because Jagex rarely updates it and when they do they pad the mid to lower end with it. Nothing new at the top end for 4 years, doesn't really inspire someone to climb the ranks like whips used to. Summoning could of revived it, but slayer monsters weren't even given the pitiful charm drops they have now until people ranted. Well and summoning sucks too, lol, but thats another topic of disappointment...

So this is how Jagex's updates things... Just as I imagined, hectic and unorderly with one guy running around all over the place trying to get it done. I think at Blizzard they learned to move the computers closer together or work as a team from the get go. Perhaps, Jagex could catch up one day.

Should die, along with people who PK in robes and 1 expensive weapon or robes, 1 expensive weapon and 1 special-attack weapon. Stay off our +1 worlds and you won't have to cry when somebody like me starts messing with you.

Your "farming level credentials" mean nothing. I'm 91 and everybody thinks my opinion is garbage and I leveled up to spirit trees on alotments and herbs because I'm cheap bastard that hates making GP. Since you already researched your erroneous 7 herb / patch average why bother and post this? Do you really think Jagex is capable of changing anything? I mean it took one year for crossbows to be changed to something decent, and one month just for 26king to become 76king. Yet, they changed the death rate on herbs just to see if you were noticing... Hey, did you hear they nerfed whip drops????? :lol: Tremblake, just leave your vile comments about Farming out of this. You already did this in the "Farming" thread and thus far not a single solitary person agrees with you. The average is 6.5 freaking herbs per seed. You, as we have already discussed, haven't done enough herb runs to even know this, so your "5 herbs is the average," talk is just that...talk. Doesn't retain any water. Haha!! Hey you might want to close your eyes if you see one of my posts about summoning. My opinion of farming is a bit higher than that of summoning. :twisted:

Hi, welcome to runescape farming. Average has always been 5 since they started giving out the little green hedge clippers. Now that your paying attention you see it to. :

Okay, I'll rephrase it for you. The majority of women don't play video games or do sports. I never said there weren't those that do And just because your emotionally charged about an issue doesn't mean your right. I'll have to look for some statistics to back me up... Also, its best to let odds work for you than go against them. So, if your going to approach somebody you don't know on runescape, then its best to approach them as though they are a male.

I don't have much sympathy for you really =/ 1-iteming isn't PvP Sure it is. Just like Castle Wars is. Just like Mobilizing Armies. Its all Player versus Player. Its just not the honorable mugging your idealizing. I 1 item for fun, I don't 1 item to make money. Losing a dagger or seercull means nothing to me. Seeing somebody cry and log, thats entertainment. :thumbup: Just like dropping cades all over the entrance of your respawn room in castle wars. :lol:

Nobody is saying that there aren't real women on runescape. But, lets face it there aren't many. Women in general don't play video games or do sports. Maybe its caused by society and peer pressure or maybe its just a genetic disposition. I wouldn't take umbridge that nobody recognizes your real gender being associated with your avatar's gender. I personally don't associate with my avatar so its gender is kinda irrelavent to me. I've been male and female at different times throughout my rs career.

Seriously? For [bleep]'s sake. That is the thing you respond to? You make me suicidal both for your stupidity and generally annoying attitude. OT = Original topic? Thats a new one for me. OT only means Over-Time to me. If you want somebody to understand something stop using stop acronyms. Its really lazy not to write out original topic.

LOL... fixes nothing and creates alot of grief. Goodbye 26ker, hello 76kers. Goodbye average pker with 1 expensive item like whip or godsword, and hello noobs with dlongs and dscimmies.

Mobilizing Armies < Armies of Geilinor by a large margin.

You can mine like woodcutting if you have the skills. With an abyssal titan and a couple of clay tools you can do like 2k pure essence an hour for like 20k xp. I have done it in the past its pretty relaxing. Just click the titan's special to bank it all before your inventory fills and you'll never stop mining. Kinda afkable like fishing, but you do need to click the titan every minute or so though. Also, you'll need 2 pouches to last an hour because Jagex doesn't believe in having one of the few beneficial summons last any amount of time while other useless ones (Steam Titan, pony) won't go away. Also, you can go mine shooting stars. They take a bit of work to get too though and it won't last long if a bunch of people show up.

"I play at work. As an adult I play RuneScape because 1, my friends play, and 2, its about all I can sneak on at work because of its Java browser-based design. USB devices are grounds for dismissalno thanks" You lost me right there. Can't be bothered to read another sentence, because your whining that you might get fired playing the game if Jagex ups the security on it. Also, who says its a USB device anyhow, most hardware keys fit into PCI slots. Trying looking in the back of any computer driving analytical instruments of $20,000+, they all have keys like that. What kid is going to pop things out of pci slots and run around with it? Only thing I hate about them is they sometimes go bad and then the whole thing won't work until you call somebody down from the company to install a new one. :wall:

Why couldn't they just use Armies of Geilinor (AOG) over on FunOrb for this? They just make a special runescape member version where you can transfer points between games. AOG is ahellavua lot better than this. #-o

Stop crying, its summoning. Its meant to be that crappy. ;)

I think you are a little mislead. Here, let me explain. Farming can make a lot of wealth. Seeds don't always cost too much, and deaths are only 1/9, or 0/9 if you pay the farmer, if possible While trees are the best xp, a run of snaps gives ~4k xp, which adds up over time. (Equal to ~1 maple tree, and you profit, not loss). I agree though, while you say trees are a money sink. It's why I put 99 farming on hold. One snapdragon seed is currently 48k. 1 snapdragon herb is currently 11k. You'll average 7 herbs per patch. So if you planted 9 patches, you should expect 63 herbs. However, 1 in 9 patches die, so it's really only 56 herbs. Now let's see. 9 snap seeds is 432k. 56 snap herbs are 616k. So if you farm 9 patches, you should expect about 184k in profits, even though one patch dies. And remember that 9 patches takes only 10 minutes. However, in reality, you'd get to 10 patches in 10 minutes of effort (1 run = 5 patches = 5 minutes, so just double everything). So 10 patches yields 70 herbs. However, ~11.1% of those will die. So you'd actually get ~62.23 herbs. That's 684,530 gp. All the seeds cost 480k. That's a profit of 204530 in just 10 minutes, including deaths. So in one hour of time (12 runs), you will make 1.2m, and you'll also have ~48k farming xp to boot. Compare that to PAYING ~400k for that same xp (palms/maples). Feel free to do the math again yourself. But deaths ARE 1/9, and the AVERAGE (if living) is 7. Doubt your playing the same game as I. My game called Runescape goes like this. Each trip to all 5 allotments yields between 20-30 herbs, 5 on average per seed. That includes death and bonus yields. Is as simple as that, don't talk to me about death rates or bonuses because you don't know what the true values were coded at. I simply count whats in my bank and its in that range every stinking time. ... Um, no. 5 per seed is the MINIMUM. On average, it's more like 7. I've been farming snaps for a long time. I farm them 20 seeds at a time before I go to the GE again. I've been consistently getting 130s. You do the division, it's 6.75, which is accurate once you consider that 1/9 will die. Once you factor that in, the average IS 7, if you round down. And I'm pretty sure you don't know the exact values that were coded in either, so don't bring that up. Don't say I'm making stuff up if your argument is the exact same as mine. My statement was, "I did this, and this is the average." You said, "You're wrong, I did this, and this is the average". You're using the exact same logic as me, but you're saying mine is wrong... Frankly, here's where we differ: 1) Average Yield 2) Time We can ignore time because we are not talking about how I do it or how you do it, but the fastest way to do it. So that means we differ on yield. Now I'm going to say that from my experience, the average yield has ALWAYS been 7, or close to it. I have never had such bad luck that my yield average was as low as 5. Once again, 5 is the MINIMUM. If you use Supercompost and Magic Secutars, the least you can get is 5. The most you can get is something like 16. Now, does it make sense that the average is 5? That would mean that you NEVER got over 5 herbs from a single patch, which I am sure is not true. What happens to the average when you do 2 patches and one patch yields 10 and the other dies? I'll give you a hint. Its still 5. My opinion is still valid and you are still playing some other fantasy game, end of story.

Coinshare was the thing that ruined this game BY GENERATING TONS OF CASH FOR NOTHING. 26k is simplying offering an alternative way to do it. I know what your saying, "how did coinshare ruin it, its money in = money out?". The simple answer is it kept prices unrealistically high and when the items sold they are always sold at less the value than coinshare money was given. "Well", you say, "How do you know this? Thats just a baseless statement." I do know it, because, I was a victum of the frozen sara godsword market. I bought one just before the end of free trading at 105mil min. I got bored of it in January tried to sell it back at min of 105 mil. It sat there till friggen april. That means that all the hilt drops where paid out at the mid which was like 109mil i believe in that time. Eventually, after the economy was ruined to the point that 105mil cash for a spec weapon seemed like something alot of people wanted to do and were able to, that the prices began to fall. Of course, the people aren't buying mid items when the prices fall they are buying the stuff like mine that people are trying to resell at min. Those at min hilts are from people that may have gotten the hilt from actual drops, through lootshare at masses, and trading items like junk with smaller amounts of cash. So the price goes down and hilts are bought at min until it stabilizes around 79 mil. At that point hilts at mid (the coinshare hilts) are being bought finally and you can see this by the price being fluid day to day. So lets do the math on coinshare hilts. They paid out 109 mil for 4 months and they were finally being bought up at 79 mil. That ain't money in = money out in my book. Thats 30mil out of thin air for each hilt, which 26king statue gives out like that? This has occured for all godwars crap. If you don't godwars, then you don't make money in runescape. It was that simple until 26king. At least 26king gives an alternative to godwars, so thats a big positive in my book, because i get bored seeing supposedly massive online game boiled down to a 1 trick pony game.

Seems to me that the only thing that needs to removed is the ability to hug each other doing minimal damage to each other without fear of really being attacked. In that case, jagex could always make a timer that lasts maybe 1 minute, then anybody could break up a fight. People like me would then solve your problem. There is nothing more entertaining than taking just a dagger or a seercull with 1 rune arrow and some bronze and just intimidating people. Shoot mages in the back, tag rushers in flight, hound people just sitting there. Die come back, die come back, die come back.... quite entertaining. Don't worry us "noobs" will take care of the too easy money part. ;)

So where do you see in that picture where it says the end of 26king? If 26king means a bunch of striking noobs in rune hugging each other for hours and then taking turns killing each other for big cash, then I see nothing there about that. All Mod Bozo says with much ambiguety is that the calculations for ep are wrong and that he blames his boss, so they might sit down and talk about it today. I didn't see anything about messing with drop rate or stopping all the hugging.

I'm surprised that someone of your level is actually arguing herbs being great cash. I do snapdragons, 5 at a time, and I always profit 50-150k per run. For 5 minutes of work between a slayer task or while runecrafting or something, it's quite a lot of money. Over the past year alone I've made at least 20m off herb farming alone, which outweighs what I've spent to train the skill with magic trees and such. I say how it really is, not what the collective opinion on tipit thinks it is. Hell the collective opinion on tipit rose up in arms on how expensive and useless farming for the first year it was out. Its too bad it public opinion sways like dandelions in the breeze, but its quite natural. I could make 20mil a year spinning flax, whats the difference in farming herbs because both won't get you 99 in their respective skills.