This is a good post, and this is what most defenders of both games have been trying to put forth. All we need now is the people who diss the game to read xxshadys post and take it in. Rs is a game of constant leveling, WoW is a game of reflexes, skill and commitment ( agreed rs pking requires skill, in4flame ). Apologies to those who've posted about WoW, but most of you have only played for 3 months, giving yourself little to no raiding experience ( 1 poster claims he only hit level 20 ) so yes, I will say you have no place to discuss the game. My opinion is valid regardless of how arrogant your are. I don't like the arena and I don't like raiding. Not everybody does and WOW isn't my game anymore. Blizzard doesn't give a rat's [wagon] about BGs. (the part I liked) They took out twinks which is like banning pures in RS. (so much for something to do after getting 1 toon to 80) Then they made a moronic griefing system for the 15 yr olds at BGs to vote you out because a few [developmentally delayed]s afk for second rate gear. (cant get 1st rate gear cause that would offend the raiders, booohooo) So much for lone wolf rogue behind enemy lines flag stealing and assassination. (my favorite thing to do) Its obvious they don't need those things, so If somebody wants to try WOW and they find they don't like raiding then don't pony up for another month cause frankly thats all there is to the game. Thats a very vaild opinion and good advice, regardless of what you think.