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Wear any kind of metal armor: full helm, chest plate, legs, kite shield, green dragonhide vambraces, water or earth staff, and Sos boots. That will get your magic attack stat to -68 which is more than enough to always fail. You will get 29 magic exp whenever you are allowed to cast the spell. 29 if it fails or 29 if it "hits" You could try casting from the key room in the Varrock sewers across the water at the 4 zombies in the ladder room, or cast on the caged red monk under the Varrock palace stairs, or try the Port Sarim jail prisoners. There are lots of other monsters that will work. Hope this helps

There are lots and lots of places that will work equally well. The main thing is to always fail when you cast it. That way you can keep on using the same monster. So, as long as the monster can't reach you, you can use almost any monster. I prefer to use a monster in a multi-combat zone so that I will (almost) always have a target. You could: cast from the key room in the Varrock sewers across the water into the 4 zombie ladder room, cast on the red monk under the Varock palace stairs, cast on the caged lesser in the wizzy tower, cast on the prisoners in the Port Sarim jail, cast on white Knights in their screen/torture room, cast on river ducks. Almost any monster will work OK. Finally, dress to fail the Curse. You will always get the full 29 magic exp for that cast and you can reuse the same monster. So, wear any full metal armor gear, kite shield, green vambraces, SoS boots, and a staff. That will get your magic attack stat to -68 which is more than enough to always fail. Hope this helps

First, I really do wish that RS had that ability. :) Second, there are at least 2 problems with it (at the present time) 1) All PCs, NPCs, monsters, etc would need to be completely remade. The facial, etc detail is just not there. That would be a huge resource drain on RS. If AG and Company ever decided to do a RS3, then they could implement a new graphics engine and try it. But, right now, in RS, it would take developmental resources away from the game for relatively little benefit. 2) Display Framerate would drop waaay down. First person view means that you could see all the way to the very distant horizon. That means that, potentially, thousands of additional new polygons need to be displayed on your poor PC. RS graphics work "well" now because the view is restricted to a very "small" number of objects. Hence, the displaying of objects can be fast. Other first person view games handle the problem by either: misting the air in the zone (swamp), or by putting in lots of view blocking walls, or by implementing a distance view clipping plane (RS "does" this already) Otherwise, a place like the Varrock west bank would turn into a stalled lag-fest. Part of the appeal of RS to new players is the speed in which new players can be up and running. The simple 3rd person view is part of that speed.

By Isolated I mean "Far from another NPC Human" The Varrock king has lots of humans in his castle The make-over mage is close to the Fally gem shop guy, fally west bank, and the crafting guild tanner. The desert mine guy is not too far from the flyer kid. I have an NPC in mind but it might not be the most isolated F2P human. I figure RE monsters are in the same off-limits category as 1 time quest monsters. I interpreted the OPs question as "What is the least hunted monster that is always available to F2P players?"

You could try the 2 lessers on the top of Crandor island. There are at least 3 safe spots that you can use and you can usually get them to yourself. You also have the 3 Moss Giants around the corner if you want. Hope this helps

F2P only monsters Anyone waiting to grab the red spider eggs for the strength potion kills those guys. Nah, I'm curious as to the answer myself, lol

Some thoughts on some of the other suggestions: Deadly Red Spiders - anyone waiting for the egg respawn kills these Greater Demons - not attacked a lot but offers the very best F2P loot Scorps - attacked in the mines. Good solo training on Crandor Island Spiders - low level training Ghosts - low level training Rats - low level training (gives 2nd lowest F2P exp) Catablepon - hunted for the sceptre drop Karamja snakes and monkeys - not attacked a lot but in a reasonable traffic area from people training under the volcano. If we exclude 1 time only monsters then the qualifications to be a "rarely" attacked monster would (probably) include: - Offers no/little loot - Needs a key to reach - In an out of the way spot - Exists only as a single monster Another trivia question is Who is the most isolated human NPC in RS?

Phoenix gang weapon master He's the weapon master for the gang in the Shield of Arroav quest. I once made a "self-quest" to go and kill every single possible F2P monster so I got know some of these out of the way guys, lol Other "rarely" killed include Speedy Keith and friends, the Al-kharid witch, large brown spiders, the caged bear, any monster in Melzars maze, goblin village guys, 2nd floor monks, Draynor manor closet skelly, and shantay guards. There are, of course, plenty of 1 time only kills: Elvarg, Delrith, Draynor vampire, etc but I figure those don't really count.

I don't have access to the Tip It magic database right now, so I can't directly answer your question. But I can tell you how to look it up... Damage dealing spells give exp according to MagicExp = BaseExp + HitDone*2 You could use an average value for HitDone as HitDone ~= MaxHit/2 If you put those 2 together you get AverageExp = BaseExp + MaxHit IIRC, those values can be read straight out of the Tip It magic exp table. You can also look up the Exp per level. For you, you need, at most 137148 more exp (same exp as getting level 53 all over again) So, the number of Death Runes would be about 137148/(EarthBaseExp + EarthMaxHit) Why are you using Death Runes? That's a very, very expensive way to do it. You could do it far cheaper with Chaos or, better yet, Body runes. You could reach your goal with about 3520 Crumble Undeads or, at most, 4730 failed Curses. The crumbles would cost about $500k to cast and the curse about $213k Hope this helps

At levels that low, all skill ups are fast, so it really doesn't matter if you hunt the right monsters. In F2P, IIRC, you can boost Strength 2 ways, Defense 1 way, but Attack 0 ways. So, consider doing Attack first. Then, use a scimmy for combat. It offers good damage at a good speed. Upgrade your gear as soon as you can. The extra Defense and Attack can really help. You should develop a skill (like mining) to help you earn money. You will need the money for the gear upgrades. Also, get yourself a Defense ammy (maybe $2k) or a Strength ammy (maybe $5k). That will give you a big boost right there. Now, put everything in the bank and go on a few suicide runs to collect Red spider eggs. They are ground spawns at the end of the Varrock sewers and under the Karamja volcano. After you have done that a few times, go hang out south-west of the crafting guild and collect limpwort roots that are leftover drops from Hobgoblins. Then take the eggs and roots, along with 5 gp, to the apothecary in Varrock. He will make you a nice 4 dose Strength potion! Finally, you earn melee exp as MeleeExp = Hitdone*4 So for fast training you want to be hitting constantly. You can do that if you have a plentiful supply of low levels monsters available. The SoS is ideal for that. Hope this helps

For rune ore the respawn time is about 1386-#Players/3 seconds In other words, 1 second faster for every 3 extra players. Other ores are, obviously, much faster. Hope this helps

What are you saying costs you 200k? You need 1 Body rune for each monster killed. So, if you ranged only Lesser Demons then, IIRC, it would take you about 1003 LDs to reach your goal. So, if you bought all of your runes then it would cost you about 40k to get enough runes to pull all of those LDs. You can earn that by selling about 15 full loads of Iron ore. So, what exactly, do you think is the problem here? not sure where u get your runes but 5k times 15 is 75k plus bodies I am assuming that 1003's LD are required to meet your goal. Each Ld requires 1 Curse spell. I assume that each Curse spell costs me, at most, 40 gp to buy. That's 1 Body, 2 Water, and an Earth staff. So, I am assuming that I average a cost of about 13 gp per rune but, please, post a more accurate per rune price. Where did you get your 5k number? Also, if you don't want to earn 40k (my number) to 200k (your number) then you can always RC the runes. It will take some time, but the cost is 0 gp. Finally, if you really can't (or don't want to) grind to earn money then, maybe, RS isn't the game for you to play. You ask for help and now you insult those who attempt to answer your question? That's not going to encourage others to bother answer future questions of yours... Now you are being inconsistent... First you complain about not being able to pick up arrows easily and now you are advocating shooting them after all. Do you want a technique that will allow you to pick up all of your recoverable arrows or not?

What are you saying costs you 200k? You need 1 Body rune for each monster killed. So, if you ranged only Lesser Demons then, IIRC, it would take you about 1003 LDs to reach your goal. So, if you bought all of your runes then it would cost you about 40k to get enough runes to pull all of those LDs. You can earn that by selling about 15 full loads of Iron ore. So, what exactly, do you think is the problem here?

and how am i supposed to get my arrows back Use the Curse pulling trick It makes it safe, easy, and fast. Well, either it's not a true safe spot or you need to work on your timing or you need to learn how to pull with a spell. No, it's just that your implementation of it needs a bit of polishing...

Which lessers? If you get far enough along in the Dragon Slayer quest then you can use the 2 lessers on the top of Crandor Island. You would have to defeat a single lesser to get that far though. You could try the SoS minotaurs. Then you wouldn't have to worry about arrows so much. The best way to do that is to use the "Curse pulling" trick. That makes is easy, safe, and very fast. Oh, and as samari81 pointed out, take a look at the Tip It range training guide. Hope this helps

Oh.... I never thought of telegrab do they respon fast? Hmmm, IIRC is was about 45 seconds and the monks were something like 2 minutes.

Keep in mind that "Easy and Fast" would mean that RS would have very bad inflation. If it's easy for you that means that it will be easy for every other guy too. That, in turn, lowers the value of money and cause prices to rise... Merchant or supply raw materials. Raw materials in F2P could include: big bones, bulk runes, raw lobsters, yew logs, zammy wines, cow hides, iron ore, coal ore, etc. Take a look at the Tip It marketplace forums and see what sells well and appeals to you. Hope this helps

You should be able to kill non-stop for hours at a time on the first or second levels of the SoS. You will need very little food. That's about the fastest melee training available in F2P. I don't think that you can do as well on White knights. You earn exp according to HitDone*4 So the overall HP of the monster really doesn't matter. All the matters is that you are getting those hits in. If you have lots of monsters available that you can hit and if they can't/don't hit you, then that's about as good as you can get. The SoS is exactly that. Hope this helps

Don't, because it's not true. Primadog made a very good point, namely, "Western world" does not mean "Entire world" Rs is in 4th place according to this chart Even so, it's a very impressive position. My concern is "How many RS players stay with the game as they age and have more money available". RS gets the younger crowd because of the cost and ease of getting started. But eventually, some players drift away to games with better graphics, more quests, less grinding, and a bigger world to explore. Jagex would be wise to add content to hold on to players as they mature...

AFAIK, the only place without random events is when you are in the middle of another random event. (I could be wrong though) Frog princess cave, prison pete, maze, etc. Random-free? No They do happen in the wildy. 'Course you allready know to alch in note form. Hope this helps

Your being High level does not mean that you should train on High level monsters. High level monsters are for Loot, low level monsters are for Exp. full_metal's advice was good. Use the SoS Why? What matters is that you are hitting something constantly. As long as you have another monster nearby, the HP doesn't really matter. Jagex doesn't really want AFK activities in Rs. You could consider using a Power ammy instead of the Strength ammy and then get yourself a 5 gp, 4 dose F2P strength potion from the Apothecary in Varrock. (He wants 5 gp, Limpwort roots (hobgoblins), and red spider eggs (ground spawn)) Hope this helps

There are lots of places that will work very well. The main idea is to always dress in your worst magic attack gear. That is usually any full metal armor, kite shield, SoS boots, green vambraces, and a staff. That will get you to -68 for magic attack and that's more than enough to always fail your Curse. Since you will fail the Curse that means that you can re-use the same monster again and again and again yet still get the full 29 magic exp. Monsters in a multi-combat zone are good to use because it means that you will (almost) always have a target. Some good targets to use include: zombies in the ladder room in the Varrock sewers (cast from the key room, 100% safe), the caged red monk under the Varrock stairs, Port Sarim jail, caged Lesser in the wizzy tower, White knights in the screen room, river ducks, and any monster behind a fence or ditch. Lots of monsters will work well. Hope this helps

Are you really sure that you want to lose (an average) of 5 magic exp per cast?... I decide what I cast and I cast fire bolts. You know, some players would have been glad to learn of a 13+% more efficient way to use their hard earned Chaos runes to raise magic. You, obviously, think differently. Actually you did... This forum is called Help and Advice I offered good advice and your response was ungrateful. That's not a response that will encourage others to post answers to your questions...

Probably already mentioned but.. Free players can use the Shantay bank Thats: 2 in Fally, Edgeville, Draynor, 2 in Varrock, Lumbridge, Al-kharid, and Shantay. 9 in total for F2P

Are you really sure that you want to lose (an average) of 5 magic exp per cast? Fire Bolt averages about 34 per cast but Crumble Undead averages about 39 per cast. Both use Chaos runes. Well, a multi-combat spot would work well. That way, you will almost always have a target. You could try casting from the key room in the Varrock sewers across the water into the 4 zombie ladder room, or the caged lesser in the wizzy tower, or white knights in the screen/torture room on the second floor of theor castle, or Crandor Island Lesser demons, or Crandor Island Moss giants, etc All of the above have that. Well, either use a multi-combat spot or world hop. Obviously if a great spot existed it would get crowded. Why? High HP monsters do allow you to be more efficient with your casting, but you are throwing 13% away anyway by using FB instead of CU. 'Course, FB makes more sense if you want minimum clicking but I always prefered to get the most exp per gp spent. All of the above are F2P. Finally, consider using failed Curses instead of a Chaos rune based spell. It's about the most cost effective way to raise F2P magic. Hope this helps