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I take it you never been to a pet shop? The person in there has a sell-all option. O-0 I never knew that. Still I'd rather see some other way to deal with this than have such a dirty fix Jagex didn't even intend to do. It sells 50k at a time. I made the horrible mistake of buying 33m Spirit shards because I was too lazy to calc how many I'd need for 99 and had to stay there clicking for around 15 minutes to sell all the extras after 99.

I still don't understand why so many people complain about being crashed at bandos. I know people that solo Bandos day and night, the only thing they complain about is the spamming for a bless call when people don't respond. Never even heard of people crashing solo bandos worlds. If you are getting crashed, it's most likely because you don't have the level required to kill it. In which case I suggest you go train more. Divine > Chaotic > Elysian > DFS @ Bandos.

Every way I look at this, I just see a way for Jagex to control the clan world and make only 3 clans in RS.... am I missing something because so many people are saying it's great but all I see is meh.

I'm very tempted at purchasing a Farseer, however it's still so similar to the Arcane and with a lower alch value just turns me off. Chaotic Kite is beast at bandos by the way. I'm sure it is just slightly better than Elysian there. Don't see much use for it outside of Bandos solo unfortunately.

Doesn't people still only pk with things like whip and dds in non+1s? Wouldn't you just head there instead if you feel too many people 1 iteming/AGS dming are going on in +1 bounty worlds? EDIT: Sorry Re read your post and yeah. PvP = Flamefest 2010.

You just happen to have very elite friends. I doubt it, with current money making methods without merching. It is possible to make 300m/month with only roughly 3-5 hrs of gameplay each day. 2.14bil can be thus reached in 7 month from a bank with 0gp worth. The stats required to do this is just Soloing GWD/TDs/DKs and/or teaming Corp. We know lvl 110s with a decent mage level can solo DKs. So if this was to keep up, what's to say that in 7 month from now, not every lvl 110+ would have max cash value banks? I'm pretty positive you can make more than 300m/month also with a good enough capital while merching as well. The 110- combat population might be slower, but they skill have PvP, Barrows, Nature Running, amongst other methods to make money at a constant 1m/hr. That is still 90m/month at 3 hrs of playing time each day. Even in F2P, with GOP 5050s you make (Sorry been away from that minigame too long. Sees_All1, if you see this help me correct if I'm wrong) 450k/hr with a lvl 3 account while being practically afk. So F2P Players can make a potential 45m/month at 3 hrs of game time each day. At this rate, you're looking at the RS population reaching maxxed cash without using the most efficient methods in roughly 2 years? What do you do then? EDIT: I like the mith/addy/rune coin idea also. That could work :o

I love this idea. I personally am not a computer expert but if what you say can actually increase the money cap it'll be of great help to people in RS. If things go on at the present rate to be honest, 2.14bil cash would become a norm for the average lvl 100 (Don't say that'll never happen, 7 years ago D med was considered one of the most elite items in RS) An increase money cap would really be great imo. @Kingjoe - Half of my friend list right now have banks worth around 5bil+, 2/3 is maxxed cash value in bank and with the exception of 10 people everyone has 1.5bil+. My friend list is a mixture of PvM, Skillers, Minigamers (Some who wastes 10m in PvP items/Ice barrages daily at castle wars), PvP (Who uses VLS like a whip) amongst others. The maxxed cash issue is not a problem of the future, it is a problem of the now.

Doesn't really affect gameplay. And the banner looks pretty nice. I don't mind it at all. Much rather look at primal warriors and celestial mages on the front page than full rune meleers and mages in battle robes ;)

This is the correct reason. Why they still have it in is probably a mixture of everyone elses reasonings. thing was, you could simply bookmark the actual game, and you could instantly hop like everyone else. it wasn't an unfair advantage, people just didn't take the time to read RSOF or a fansite forum to figure it out :P but sure, jagex may have tried to babysit us in the past as they babysit us now :D Oh I think I remb that, back when the URL still said like w1.runescape.com or something like that, you just change the w1 to w2 and relog in with no delay. Something like that. Gosh that was a long time ago.

I don't know about that, I'd label you as a Possessor by your sig :P

They wouldn't crash so soon. Spirit sheilds are the best sheilds in game, and you have to be a decent level or have high lsp just to get one. Spectral is super useful at arma, arcane is usefull at bursting lobs/DK maging. Elysian removes 25% of the damage 70% of the time, and divine removes 30% of the damage all the time. Hard to get really owned with that bonus. I see them as similar to Godswords - they won;t crash for awhile, but when it comes it will be big. Didn't they crash around when they hit around 300m? Seem to have recovered quite nicely. Godswords are easily replaced by whips. I challenge you to find me one item in RS that can replace a Divine.

I used to wear Spottier cape most of the time, don't feel the need to show off unless I'm just hanging around with friends so I leave my Herb, RC, and Sum capes in my bank. Fire or SW cape when I'm slaying. Ardy 3 for farm runs and Corp. Oh and Quest cape for a day every time a new quest is released (What can I say? I like quests:)) Mostly nowadays unless I'm actually doing something that requires a cape I'm usually just not wearing anything.

It wasn't there in rsc, at least not that I remembered. I think it's to discourage single players from world hopping and hogging valuable resources such as rune rocks and stuff. Just a guess though. Would make Rune mining way more profitable if you were able to hop from w1-151(?) and just repeat until you basically mined out all the rune ores. 40 seconds isn't that long anyways, I don't mind it.

Neitz helm Glory Ammy Guthans Top Guthans Bottom Combat Brace Warrior Ring Dragon Boots Obsidian Cape Whip Obsidian Shield That outfit gives extremely good stats with 0 quest requirements at a cost of only 6.718m. Archer Helm Glory Ammy Black D'hide top Black Dhide Chap Combat brace Snakeskin boots Ava Accumulator Rune c'bow 171k for a decent range outfit. The 8-9m left over do whatever you want with it. Otherwise upgrade dhide to karils if you want. If money is too much of a concern don't bother with mage outfit.

I Am A Vertical Liner Lol but really, sometimes even I notice that I press enter after every 4-5 words. Just became a habit that really can't be helped now. My friends don't seem to mind it so I never bother trying to change it. (Unless I know I'm going to be typing alot of info in which case I consciously make sure I fill up the entire chat bar before typing enter to avoid spam)

Yes, It is true Phat has a higher true value. But first consider this. No item in this history of the GE has ever HIT the true value. In fact barely any item hit half of it's true value. Ex. Easter Eggs 2nd. say if Phats does reach true value. Which means a Purple will reach probably around 600m in GE. By the time that comes, it could be 3-4 years from now. Are you saying with the 352m currently mid price of Purple, you can not turn that into 600m via merch, monster hunt, or even just buying addy bars for mid price and selling it for 1gp above mid every day? 3-4 years from now, the Purple Phat will reach 600m. But the people who had 352m liquid cash to merch right now would have probably 2bil maxxed cash. 3rd. It has been shown in history that discontinued items does eventually fade out. When the price of the item becomes way too high for the average scaper to even care about. Phats has had 2 big crashes in Jagex history (If memory serves me correctly, I've quit for a while in the middle so one of the crashes I only heard from 2nd hand sources) If Phats take a hit say in 1 year, how long would it take to sell a crashing hat that does nothing but now LOSE gp? Sure you can hold onto it for half a year and wait for the LONG RUN rise. But "in the long-run, we're all dead." - John Keynes, Father of Macroeconomics. Sure, in the long run, Phats and discontinued will be the ONLY items to increase in value. But I'm sure an avid merchant can use non-discontinued and make money at a much faster rate than someone who is just hoarding onto discontinued. P.S. - Just to clarify, I'm not saying Phats are not a good investment. It is a very safe investment for diversification of assets. But to be able to make money at an avid rate, relying on Phats alone is not only foolish but will most likely result in you falling behind the curve instead of staying ahead of it.

In my opinion, Phat is the equivalent of a 25 year treasury bill in real life terms. It yields very safe, but very slow profits. Anyone who is adept at merching can surely take that same cash, invest it over and over again into different items, and come out 5x richer than the a person starting out at the same point hoarding onto the phat. Example. While it is true a White Phat has rose from 310m to 426m in the past 180 days. If the same person had been constantly switching between items such as Godswords, 3rd age, and lower discontinued. Or if he had been a constant Barrows flipper. He would have made probably 3x as much as the white phat owner in terms of ge wealth (considering he has perfect information) Even without perfect information, if he is able to predict half of the rises and crashes on these items, he would have end up with around still twice as much profit compared to the White Phat owner. Lets compare the prices of all the Phats in terms of rises in percentages in the past 180 days: Purple: 53.3% Green: 45.5% Yellow: 45.4% Red: 41.2% White: 35.9% Blue: 27.8% I'm sure a semi-decent merchant can double his cash in 180 days. Of course it becomes alot riskier as you have to do many market analysis amongst other things. But lets hold on a moment and consider this. What if this person had instead bought with his cash, a lower rare which wasn't yet bought out 180 days ago? Santa: 161.6% Green H'ween: 251.6% Blue H'ween: 283.5% Red H'ween: 243.8% That is why imo, Phats at it's current state is nothing more than a status item and a bargaining chip. It is not the best investment for anyone to go to because simply it does not make enough money. Sure these lower items can prove alot riskier as shown by all of the masks/santa's numerous crashes through the past half a year. As well as GWD item and SS's crashes. But if a merchant is truly informed with the market and makes great decisions. I'm almost positive he can at least clear the 50% mark in 180 days. (P.S. This is where we can see Chessey's genius as well. Instead of hoarding a bunch of phats, she went ahead and bought herself 2k Santas. Price Manipulation aside, that was one HELL of a move.)

138 combat, overloads, whip + divine means no one is willing to crash you. It wouldn't make sense for someone to try crash you when they can so much easily crash a world where 120s are trying to ffa duo bandos. Switch the whip out with a CLS, you're set.

I can confirm CLS is 110k Alch value. Never checked chaotic kite. If you want to know I can get back to you on that, also not spending my 300k tokens left because I want to see if Batch 2 has anything good (Chaotic spear <33 Corp.... I dare to dream)

Can you post on the first page which items you already have? I might be able to help here if I know which items you still need. Good luck.

I hate you, one of my easiest ways to make quick gp is now known to people :( Evil P.S. LOVE! <33

I am 99% sure E Excal is 20hp/5 minutes. Back in the day when people used OL+EE at corp, we often used the spec bar as a timer for when the OL runs out. OL lasts for 5 minutes, Spec bar fully recharges at nearly the exact same time with maybe a + or - 10 second difference. So yeah might want to change that. Other than that nice guide would be better with pictures.

The ideal setup for teams is 4 meleers with 1 melee/tank mage hybrid. Rangers are absolutely 100% useless in any situations with the exception of Lex (The boss with Book Barrage). Range is too ineffective against all monsters in dungeoneering and the reason you use it on Lex is because Lex recoils all melee damage by 1/3, difficulty of dodging a book barrage while meleeing, and has high defense against mage. Maximizing xp/hr should be done with F1-27 on 5:5 Small rush opening every room and clearing only guardian doors. Average xp/hr 60k xp/hr if you have a team that knows what to do. On F28-35, 5:5 Large rush. Key person is the most important role here. With a good key holder you can finish each floor in under 40 minutes yielding 45-50k xp/floor (-6 to -2% level mod) averaging near 70-75k xp/hr Rammernaut should always be maged. It helps reduce death and speed up kills by alot. (Exception of this and Lex is when soloing. They're both a joke on solos.) Alching should never be needed. An average player needs 100k coins total each floor for an inventory full of cave morays come boss time if you are low on food. 2 binds is more than enough to finish EVERY single boss in a dungeon. The time it takes to make alch runes and the extra inventory space it takes heavily outweighs the 2x gp that you get which you will not end up using anyways. Never checked level of boss vs max hit. Hate to say it but it's probably just a coincidence. Familiars may attack the Lum Icefiend/Stomp but will only hit 0s. Mageing them produce the same result. The tool bearer should have EIGHT tools. Pick, Hatchet, Vial, Fishing Rod, Feathers, Hammer, Knife, and Tinderbox. All tools can be purchased with only 1k at the beginning of the round. Fastest way to do this is to grab any random ecto/katagon/stego item on the table and selling to smuggler.

You're forgetting this is RS. Famous players dont get praised, they get harassed. As for this idea, I like it. It won't just make manipulation harder, but it'll help smooth out the RS economy as well. Not to mention this is great for honest merchants as well as we would get faster profit/hr

3.5m every 3.5 days looks pretty good to me. With a Divine, I'd had made double that in 1 day at Arma solos. Status item or no status item, in the end it is just a pixel hat that can not bring me any enjoyment via gameplay.