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2 things. 1: you have 95 runecrafting (just saying). 2: sometimes we are forced to level a skill. i for one am training constuction for a few quests i want to do (nomand, love story etc) all he is saying is that if you want to train WC and FM, but hate training them. this is a very efective method. he may "hate" the skill, but by hes own words, he had fun doing this. i mean no harm or anything, its just that i think your the one "looking at the problem from the wrong point of view" I'd be 86(and that xp is accumulated over 6 years) rc if it wasn't for effigies....so...seems smart. You are never forced to do anything. You just want to(or don't want to, in this situation).

sound like rsc firemaking, and stupid. You are looking at the problem from the wrong point of view- if you hate skill, you are not forced to level it. I, for example, horrendously hate runecrafting. So, what do i do?? i train slayer, or slay TD's/frosts. Be smart about it, not stupid.

So, who is the ass in this situation? The slayer who wants the max xp and it is efficient for him to crash or the newb who is abusing spawns that he doesn't need? In any case, there aren't enough spawns- if you want to slay efficiently, you always want the fastest spawn-rate, and there just aren't enough full servers to go around. Most of the people aren't crashing because they want to crash, but rather because there is not other choice- it'd be stupid to severely compromise your xp rates just to be nice to person x, when it's more than likely that that same person x will also crash you in nonmulty(even though he will compromise his own xp and it's not efficient). I've tried being nice, but when you get your head kicked in way too often, you have to do something about it.

I'd go with maul+hand cannon, only 2 switches needed(weapon and helmet).(not to mention, hand cannon DPS > crossbow, even if maul DPS is somewhat lower, you can do MUCH less clicking)

I think the quest requirements for it assume you are a decent enough player not to care about the small cost(and it is ridiculously small nowadays). In any case, the requirements for CR are on the same level as for KS, and CR is ridiculously much better than KS. Also, claws are still better than KS for spec(and don't cost too much either, nowadays).

How many full servers are there on a regular basis? 1? 2? so, who has the right to use those FULL servers(which are a must for the fastest xp)? some random level 120 who doesn't really need all the spawns, or some 138 with cr/ovl/turm/titan?

Nechs in CT, I just fight anyway. Wait so you're saying if someone is at Necs, say chinning or whatever, and you come in, you just start killing them instead of hoping? Yet you think others should hop if you were at a spot first? I never said I hop. I only hop if 1.) I want to 2.) Its more efficient The thing I don't get is when people try to crash me, when I'll always have the best gear. Even if the same gear as me, and we split kills, its slower for both. If you start killing nechs that I'm chinning/barraging, I'm not going to hop for you even if it's slower for both of us. if you're talking about the efficiency of the economy as a whole, the less productive gamer should hop as he does less with his time that helps other players And let arrogant [bleeps] run wild? No thanks. That's the kind of attitude that will get you nowhere. Efficient players hop/crash because it saves time, you, however, still seem to think there is some kind of ownership to a training spot. Let me tell you: There isn't!

Not_trolling, why did you quote my post on that? i said exactly the same thing rswiki says about it(apart from considering the 4th hit).

If it was like langer put it, the droprate would hardly change, and if effigy drop was more common than elite clue drop, it wouldn't change at all. As for proof- as i said, it's almost impossible to prove, thus it's a stupid question, but as it doesn't have any reasonable explanation of why it would be like that(or testing), it's wrong until proven otherwise. Also, as we haven't heard of effigy droprates lowering after the elite clue update, we can only assume your hypothesis to be wrong, or the change is just too minor for anyone to notice.

No. And what is your reason for saying NO? What is your reason of thinking up 'impossible to prove but stupid' hypothesis? In any case, i'm fairly sure clues and effigies can be dropped together, but in any case, they aren't affected by eachother. Also, how are you getting little effigies at miths? I think the droprate is around 200 +-50, so unless you've killed 2k+ and only have one effigy, it's completely normal.

If it is 100% accurate(and people are more or less sure of that) then yes, it ignores defense entirely, as defense doesn't affect your max(or average) hit. And really, dclaws are around 90% accurate on even the toughest armor, and nearly always(if you land on the 1-3rd hit) deal double damage, korasi sword, even though being 100% accurate, only deals normal damage(50-150%, 100% average), and is much more luck based, can't be used twice in a row.

No. You really need to learn something about droprates and averages. The average droprate of effigies from slayer is around 110k xp, i went around 900k slayer xp between drops- it's all luck.

You mean she-male players, not female, obviously? because there is none of the latter(i think the tally on an rs poll was 90-10 at some time, and the majority of female accounts are just males...).

And considering it's f2p ranging, we are not talking about 150k vs 154k here, rather something close to 40k and 44k, which is 10% faster kills.

Errm...you are supposed to have prestige 25, not 2.

I don't understand why people keep saying this- their melee attacks are far more accurate and hit for more on bandos than their magic attack does on karils, and also, as their range attack is mage based, you will be better protected against that aswell. I'm sure bandos works fine when you can constantly ss flick, but with karils, unicorn easily covers the healing. because bandos gives a strength bonus, or veracs gives a prayer bonus. you can heal enough with soulsplit that you don't even need a unicorn and can use yak if you want. it actually seemed to me that their melee less accurate on bandos w/ turmoil and overload than their magic attack on karils. no hard data here, since it doesn't really matter either way. i just use bandos for strength bonus. I'm 100% certain that they do far more damage with melee on bandos than mage on karils, i've tried it myself, and when not wanting to soul split, I couldn't heal enough to stay alive, even with unicorn. The strength bonus is slight and really doesn't help too much as your accuracy will be fairly low anyway.

I don't think it's possible to enter the lair alone, but it's fairly easy to find a dp on burstinglobs chat. Empty worlds aren't generally a problem as you won't be needing max spawn servers, and the ones you need(600-1600) are generally empty. Cannoning definitely makes it alot harder thus i have not seen anyone consistently do it- you could propably practice duo cannon tribrid at first and move on to solo tribrid from there. From personal experience, having only tried solo tribrid with cannon, you will have 2 DK's on you for alot of the time and sometimes even 3, so it is quite easy to die- a divine really hels out in those situations, or you'd just have to get very high range def gear. Without cannon, defense generally isn't an issue and it's much easier to juggle kills.

I skip them because they're annoying to get to. I'd much rather stay on modern magicks for ice wyrms. Well that's not really a problem if you get some astral tabs, but suqahs are a bad task anyway. A long time ago I played GOP for two days and bought a few thousand astral tabs to use specifically for changing back to lunars after a spirit mages task, and when I thought I was quitting, I dropped them all. Big mistake. <_< Yeah, those tabs are exceptionally helpful, just like blood tabs for bloodveld.

Why don't people look at the dates of when something was posted? In any case, primal spear, after the ring customization update, will be rubbish. You are much better with a selection of primal 2h/baxe/rapier/longsword.

I skip them because they're annoying to get to. I'd much rather stay on modern magicks for ice wyrms. Well that's not really a problem if you get some astral tabs, but suqahs are a bad task anyway. Hellhounds are definitely worth doing now if you want the fastest slayer xp- they are assigned quite often and give up to 65-70k xp an hour with cannon+cr+steel titan.

Chaotic melee weapons degrade when your in "combat". You probably spend less than half of your time in "combat" in single zones. Most of the time is spent looting, locating the next monster, and navigating to the next monster. I usually spend about 40% of my time in "combat" and thus I degrade my cls at a 4% clip per hour. If you 1 hit things like goblins you can slow the degrading of your weapon even more. I spent about 2% in an hour looking for a champion scroll. Shields are slightly different. Again you only degrade in combat and the rate probably doubles on periods where you soak damage. For reference, I can mage a whole soul wars game with farseer shield and usually loose about 1%. However, if I spend a soul wars game with a ranger on me and constantly soaking damage in melee crowds then I have spent up to 4%. Top slayers spend around 3300 seconds of an hour(3600 seconds) in combat(by the number of hit's they deal) in single way combat, and the weapons still don't degrade more than 6% an hour. You must be really terrible at slaying.... In any case, it isn't as easy as: weapon degrades 6% in an hour meaning you only spend 60% of your time in combat, rather it's much more complex and rather depends on the number of hits being dealt to you(you don't hit faster at dagannoths, but it degrades much faster there-hence, the degrading is based on hits soaked, even for the weapons).

BEST setup possible? I don't know even where to start the flaming.... But know this: It's NOT.(and there are tons of reasons why)

I don't understand why people keep saying this- their melee attacks are far more accurate and hit for more on bandos than their magic attack does on karils, and also, as their range attack is mage based, you will be better protected against that aswell. I'm sure bandos works fine when you can constantly ss flick, but with karils, unicorn easily covers the healing.

Well it seems as though if you post something really ridiculously stupid and really believe in it, Zarfot will post and disagree with you.... so if you want Zarfot to post.... :twisted:

Why should he? firstly, he can still go for 200m dungeoneering, and secondly, he would be smart to wait until 200m slayer(6m to go) and 200m dungeoneering(around 35m to go), as then the 200m rc would be more of an achievement. Squisher_33, i got an 1/100 droprate from hellhounds over ~4 tasks, so considering you can kill around 550 an hour, that's 5,5 effigies an hour, so all your monsters are actually rubbish for effigies...(and unless you start making sense, i can bring up as many examples like this as i want to).