Should F2P get skill capes?

[perfetc]

Jagex doesn't like RWT but you want them to make skill capes only buyable by f2p if they have been a member for atleast a month? Never going to happen.

 

 

 

hihihi727, skill capes arn't high level in the sense that they are only obby capes.

 

 

 

I honestly don't see why people waste hours of there lives to get 1 usually complaining all the that there bored. There not very good, there not unique, look average and if you bought the skill you got 99 in they cost a damn site more than an obby cape.

 

 

 

Your talking like there the best cape in the game.

[langer]

Jagex doesn't like RWT but you want them to make skill capes only buyable by f2p if they have been a member for atleast a month? Never going to happen.

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I'd say unlikely, but not impossible. There would be lots of cash to be made from that feature. This has no link whatsoever to RWT, I don't know how you would make a connection between those 2.

[perfetc]

Jagex could also make money from selling weapons, armour and money but they won't do that either.

 

 

 

The connection is easy, your asking them to pay for a months membership just for a cape, face it can't do much in 1 month so it would be mainly for the cape so you are spending money out of your own pocket to pay for something in game.

 

 

 

It is IMPOSSIBLE .

[unkn0wnwarrior]

I don't see how it throws that argument out of the window. Your friends might no life more than you, or maybe they enjoy skilling more. Or do you really think that your friends have got double exp because they "worked harder" than you? No. Runescape requires zero skill. Skillcapes are just another item consisting of a line of code and few pixels. They are not some kind of holy relic that people with 99 skills automatically deserve because they have worked so hard. No other skill requirement, whether for a quest or a item, comes even close to getting a skill all the way to 99. Skillcapes are far too high leveled. Skillcapes becoming f2p won't entice new players to play. Nor will they encourage f2pers to get p2p. Once again, i would love it if f2p's got a cool update like a new boss or a quest so that more of my friends would want to play. But most of the people that would be very happy about this update would be people that are going to stay f2p all their life.

 

I was referring to the second part, about the time in front of the computer. I can assure you I have more hours on Runescape. They just don't goof off as much as me. I spent a week as a Falador guard, for example, walking aimlessly and training nothing.

[hihihi727]

Jagex doesn't like RWT but you want them to make skill capes only buyable by f2p if they have been a member for atleast a month? Never going to happen.

 

 

 

hihihi727, skill capes arn't high level in the sense that they are only obby capes.

 

 

 

I honestly don't see why people waste hours of there lives to get 1 usually complaining all the that there bored. There not very good, there not unique, look average and if you bought the skill you got 99 in they cost a damn site more than an obby cape.

 

 

 

Your talking like there the best cape in the game.

 

 

 

Yeah.... and how many people want an achievement cape just for its stats? :roll: They maybe a obby cape in stats, but their requirements are very high. I mean, its pretty obvious that getting a skillcapes take a lot more time to get than an obby cape. New players won't sign up for a runescape account because skillcapes are f2p, and f2p players won't become members because they have skillcapes either. It would be a pointless update. Also, lots of people try to make it sound like skillcapes are something that they deserve. You do not have to "work" to get a skillcape, but in fact you just have to click a few pixels representing a rock or a tree many times. Only in Runescape can playing computer game earn you respect for having apparently worked hard. A skillcape is just another item. Not having skillcapes is not some kind of horrible punishment.

[hihihi727]

I don't see how it throws that argument out of the window. Your friends might no life more than you, or maybe they enjoy skilling more. Or do you really think that your friends have got double exp because they "worked harder" than you? No. Runescape requires zero skill. Skillcapes are just another item consisting of a line of code and few pixels. They are not some kind of holy relic that people with 99 skills automatically deserve because they have worked so hard. No other skill requirement, whether for a quest or a item, comes even close to getting a skill all the way to 99. Skillcapes are far too high leveled. Skillcapes becoming f2p won't entice new players to play. Nor will they encourage f2pers to get p2p. Once again, i would love it if f2p's got a cool update like a new boss or a quest so that more of my friends would want to play. But most of the people that would be very happy about this update would be people that are going to stay f2p all their life.

 

I was referring to the second part, about the time in front of the computer. I can assure you I have more hours on Runescape. They just don't goof off as much as me. I spent a week as a Falador guard, for example, walking aimlessly and training nothing.

 

 

 

So basically, you think that your friends worked harder than you? Skillcapes do not show your intellectual superiority or physical strength. Runescape is a game, you play it for fun, unlike life, where you sometimes have to put up with bad times, you can just log off if you are bored in RS. Your friends may enjoy training more than you. That doesn't mean that they worked harder or did something that requires any sort of skill.

[unkn0wnwarrior]

So basically, you think that your friends worked harder than you? Skillcapes do not show your intellectual superiority or physical strength. Runescape is a game, you play it for fun, unlike life, where you sometimes have to put up with bad times, you can just log off if you are bored in RS. Your friends may enjoy training more than you. That doesn't mean that they worked harder or did something that requires any sort of skill.

 

You still aren't understanding me right. I bolded more than I intended to. My friends do not work harder than me, they just work more efficiently. The only part I was saying doesn't work out is:

it shows how much time you have sat in front of the computer playing games more than other people

 

 

 

I do not think of playing games as work at all. I do play for fun, which is why I do stuff like I mentioned in my last post. They play for fun as well, but they enjoy the grinding more than me.

[perfetc]

That doesn't mean that they worked harder or did something that requires any sort of skill.

 

 

 

I think that is a tiny bit wrong, your right in the way that when you log off you arn't drained and need to relax but in the sense that they are working toward a goal then they are working.

[nerdboyxxx]

I'm going to give my opinion, disregarding all the other mini-discussions going on in this thread. Feel free to flame the crap out of me, I'm up for a good "debate" ;)

 

 

 

When I think f2p, the first thing that comes to mind (honestly,I swear!) is "hard-to-train skills". You try getting 99 Prayer or 99 Runecrafting on a free world. You WOULDN'T try, would you? Because it's so damn hard, thats why! If it is so hard, I reckon they deserve some recognition. Even if it is just a cape, at least they can be proud of there achievements (and having a skillcpe in f2p would be just epic ;)).

 

 

 

And to all you members complaining about this topic; Stick it. Seriously. Just because they don't pay means they get no updates. We pay for members so we can gain access to more content, and MORE FREQUENT updates. We don't pay to make sure f2p don't get anything at all. They deserve updates just as much as we do, because they DO essentialy pay with advertisement. And they work much harder than we do to get money, train skills, and get better gear. We have it EASY. They have it HARD. So I believe they deserve some updates, no matter how big or small.

 

 

 

Flame War BEGIN!!!

[perfetc]

I only have 1 teeny tiny thing to say about that rather epic post.

 

 

 

Work harder should be changed to play longer, there not physically exhausted but they do have to play longer to get the same result.

 

 

 

I know this is kind of treading on my last post but I think there both right.

[Juhnie]

Work harder should be changed to play longer, there not physically exhausted but they do have to play longer to get the same result.

 

 

 

Wrist pain doesn't count as physically exhausted? :lol:

[db300]

 

Yeah.... and how many people want an achievement cape just for its stats? :roll: They maybe a obby cape in stats, but their requirements are very high. I mean, its pretty obvious that getting a skillcapes take a lot more time to get than an obby cape. New players won't sign up for a runescape account because skillcapes are f2p, and f2p players won't become members because they have skillcapes either. It would be a pointless update. Also, lots of people try to make it sound like skillcapes are something that they deserve. You do not have to "work" to get a skillcape, but in fact you just have to click a few pixels representing a rock or a tree many times. Only in Runescape can playing computer game earn you respect for having apparently worked hard. A skillcape is just another item. Not having skillcapes is not some kind of horrible punishment.

 

 

 

Couldn't agree more. While it does take longer to level most skills in f2p, it is hard to make an argument for "deserving" skill capes because of how skilling is done.

[Sir_Kurity]

Yea..

 

 

 

If i cook shrimp to 99 cooking i don't deserve any better cape than someone who cooked shark.

[perfetc]

Work harder should be changed to play longer, there not physically exhausted but they do have to play longer to get the same result.

 

 

 

Wrist pain doesn't count as physically exhausted? :lol:

 

 

 

There is something else that causes that aswell but you don't call that work. :lol:

[nerdboyxxx]

Work harder should be changed to play longer, there not physically exhausted but they do have to play longer to get the same result.

 

 

 

Wrist pain doesn't count as physically exhausted? :lol:

 

 

 

There is something else that causes that aswell but you don't call that work. :lol:

 

 

 

All hail the power of the internet, for taking about 10 minutes off of that time :XD:

[perfetc]

Jagex doesn't like RWT but you want them to make skill capes only buyable by f2p if they have been a member for atleast a month? Never going to happen.

 

 

 

hihihi727, skill capes arn't high level in the sense that they are only obby capes.

 

 

 

I honestly don't see why people waste hours of there lives to get 1 usually complaining all the that there bored. There not very good, there not unique, look average and if you bought the skill you got 99 in they cost a damn site more than an obby cape.

 

 

 

Your talking like there the best cape in the game.

 

 

 

Yeah.... and how many people want an achievement cape just for its stats? :roll: They maybe a obby cape in stats, but their requirements are very high. I mean, its pretty obvious that getting a skillcapes take a lot more time to get than an obby cape. New players won't sign up for a runescape account because skillcapes are f2p, and f2p players won't become members because they have skillcapes either. It would be a pointless update. Also, lots of people try to make it sound like skillcapes are something that they deserve. You do not have to "work" to get a skillcape, but in fact you just have to click a few pixels representing a rock or a tree many times. Only in Runescape can playing computer game earn you respect for having apparently worked hard. A skillcape is just another item. Not having skillcapes is not some kind of horrible punishment.

 

 

 

I just relised this was posted :lol:

 

 

 

What other reason is there to a get a skill cape? The 1st time I saw 1 (I wasn't around when they were brought into the game) I thought "I guess he has 99 att" then carried on with what I was doing, I never gave him any respect or anything.

 

 

 

Why are you making it sound like the only reason people get membership is to get a cape? If that is your only reason to become a member your crazy.

 

 

 

There's 1,000's of reasons to become a member and you think the main factor is some cape!?!?! :shock:

 

 

 

In a sense you are working, you are working towards a goal. You might not get tierd from it but you are working.

 

 

 

What about people who work in offices all day just sat at a computer? They get paid to do that and if they stand out they get a rise or a promotion in acknowledgement of what they have done, the same as a f2p clicking away should get something for spending 3 times longer as a member to train the same skill.

[hihihi727]

Jagex doesn't like RWT but you want them to make skill capes only buyable by f2p if they have been a member for atleast a month? Never going to happen.

 

 

 

hihihi727, skill capes arn't high level in the sense that they are only obby capes.

 

 

 

I honestly don't see why people waste hours of there lives to get 1 usually complaining all the that there bored. There not very good, there not unique, look average and if you bought the skill you got 99 in they cost a damn site more than an obby cape.

 

 

 

Your talking like there the best cape in the game.

 

 

 

Yeah.... and how many people want an achievement cape just for its stats? :roll: They maybe a obby cape in stats, but their requirements are very high. I mean, its pretty obvious that getting a skillcapes take a lot more time to get than an obby cape. New players won't sign up for a runescape account because skillcapes are f2p, and f2p players won't become members because they have skillcapes either. It would be a pointless update. Also, lots of people try to make it sound like skillcapes are something that they deserve. You do not have to "work" to get a skillcape, but in fact you just have to click a few pixels representing a rock or a tree many times. Only in Runescape can playing computer game earn you respect for having apparently worked hard. A skillcape is just another item. Not having skillcapes is not some kind of horrible punishment.

 

 

 

I just relised this was posted :lol:

 

 

 

What other reason is there to a get a skill cape? The 1st time I saw 1 (I wasn't around when they were brought into the game) I thought "I guess he has 99 att" then carried on with what I was doing, I never gave him any respect or anything.

 

 

 

Why are you making it sound like the only reason people get membership is to get a cape? If that is your only reason to become a member your crazy.

 

 

 

There's 1,000's of reasons to become a member and you think the main factor is some cape!?!?! :shock:

 

 

 

In a sense you are working, you are working towards a goal. You might not get tierd from it but you are working.

 

 

 

What about people who work in offices all day just sat at a computer? They get paid to do that and if they stand out they get a rise or a promotion in acknowledgement of what they have done, the same as a f2p clicking away should get something for spending 3 times longer as a member to train the same skill.

 

 

 

Point out where i said that the main factor of getting a membership is for the cape.... please... :wall: And the difference between playing Runescape and working in an office is that people that work in offices actually do work, instead of playing computer games. Playing a computer game where all you really have to do too excel is click on a rock several times does not require physical or mental superiority nor does it require intense thinking and effort. Seriously... Oh yeah. And i don't even think you know what side i'm supporting. Because i never said anything about how capes give "respect". In fact, if anything, i have been saying the opposite by saying that skillcapes don't require any sort of skill at all.

[quelmotz]

Jagex doesn't like RWT but you want them to make skill capes only buyable by f2p if they have been a member for atleast a month? Never going to happen.

 

 

 

hihihi727, skill capes arn't high level in the sense that they are only obby capes.

 

 

 

I honestly don't see why people waste hours of there lives to get 1 usually complaining all the that there bored. There not very good, there not unique, look average and if you bought the skill you got 99 in they cost a damn site more than an obby cape.

 

 

 

Your talking like there the best cape in the game.

 

 

 

Yeah.... and how many people want an achievement cape just for its stats? :roll: They maybe a obby cape in stats, but their requirements are very high. I mean, its pretty obvious that getting a skillcapes take a lot more time to get than an obby cape. New players won't sign up for a runescape account because skillcapes are f2p, and f2p players won't become members because they have skillcapes either. It would be a pointless update. Also, lots of people try to make it sound like skillcapes are something that they deserve. You do not have to "work" to get a skillcape, but in fact you just have to click a few pixels representing a rock or a tree many times. Only in Runescape can playing computer game earn you respect for having apparently worked hard. A skillcape is just another item. Not having skillcapes is not some kind of horrible punishment.

 

 

 

I just relised this was posted :lol:

 

 

 

What other reason is there to a get a skill cape? The 1st time I saw 1 (I wasn't around when they were brought into the game) I thought "I guess he has 99 att" then carried on with what I was doing, I never gave him any respect or anything.

 

 

 

Why are you making it sound like the only reason people get membership is to get a cape? If that is your only reason to become a member your crazy.

 

 

 

There's 1,000's of reasons to become a member and you think the main factor is some cape!?!?! :shock:

 

 

 

In a sense you are working, you are working towards a goal. You might not get tierd from it but you are working.

 

 

 

What about people who work in offices all day just sat at a computer? They get paid to do that and if they stand out they get a rise or a promotion in acknowledgement of what they have done, the same as a f2p clicking away should get something for spending 3 times longer as a member to train the same skill.

 

 

 

Point out where i said that the main factor of getting a membership is for the cape.... please... :wall: And the difference between playing Runescape and working in an office is that people that work in offices actually do work, instead of playing computer games. Playing a computer game where all you really have to do too excel is click on a rock several times does not require physical or mental superiority nor does it require intense thinking and effort. Seriously... Oh yeah. And i don't even think you know what side i'm supporting. Because i never said anything about how capes give "respect". In fact, if anything, i have been saying the opposite by saying that skillcapes don't require any sort of skill at all.

 

 

 

Interpretation, please. Just because you didn't say something doesn't mean we can't infer. We're not brainless morons who can only draw direct conclusions. We can think.

 

 

 

Also, most office jobs just require repetitive action, which ISN'T "intense thinking". Answering phones, secretaries, etc.

 

 

 

Skillcapes require dedication and patience. Do you have a 99? If you don't, don't criticize what you haven't tried. If you do, you should know how boring it is, and how much dedication and patience you need to do it, especially for skills like mining, runecrafting, etc etc.

[hihihi727]

Interpretation, please. Just because you didn't say something doesn't mean we can't infer. We're not brainless morons who can only draw direct conclusions. We can think.

 

If so, could you please point out what made you think that supposedly i think that the the main factor of getting a membership is for the cape? Which is weird since I obviously don't think that all nor do i recall implying it. In fact it doesn't even have anything to do with my points. Perfect probably misread my post or something. Speak for yourself.

 

 

 

Also, most office jobs just require repetitive action, which ISN'T "intense thinking". Answering phones, secretaries, etc.

 

You don't actually think that getting a skillcape qualifies as hard work simply because its repetitive like an office job? Getting a skillcape may be tedious. But its not work. Its playing a computer game. Get over it. Even answering a phone would be intense thinking compared to clicking on a tree while watching TV or something.

 

 

 

Skillcapes require dedication and patience. Do you have a 99? If you don't, don't criticize what you haven't tried. If you do, you should know how boring it is, and how much dedication and patience you need to do it, especially for skills like mining, runecrafting, etc etc.

 

Yep. Dedication and patience towards playing a computer game. Some people would call that addiction. Maybe i haven't tried getting a skillcape myself yet because i actually have real work to do...lol.... don't get me wrong, i don't think its bad to get a skillcape. I will probably try to get one soon myself. But surely, playing Runescape (which should be a hobby that you do in your spare time) and doing your job or studying for an exam or practicing a musical instrument ect. would be slightly different? Oh, and its funny (and hypocritical) that you tell me not to "criticize what i haven't tried" when i recall you criticizing WoW (and even outlining points describing in detail why its bad) despite never having played it yourself.

[perfetc]

If so, could you please point out what made you think that supposedly i think that the the main factor of getting a membership is for the cape? Which is weird since I obviously don't think that all nor do i recall implying it. In fact it doesn't even have anything to do with my points. Perfect probably misread my post or something. Speak for yourself.

 

 

 

This what made me think that

 

 

 

"New players won't sign up for a runescape account because skillcapes are f2p, and f2p players won't become members because they have skillcapes either."

 

 

 

You don't actually think that getting a skillcape qualifies as hard work simply because its repetitive like an office job? Getting a skillcape may be tedious. But its not work. Its playing a computer game. Get over it. Even answering a phone would be intense thinking compared to clicking on a tree while watching TV or something.

 

 

 

Think of it like working towards a goal.

 

 

 

Yep. Dedication and patience towards playing a computer game. Some people would call that addiction. Maybe i haven't tried getting a skillcape myself yet because i actually have real work to do...lol.... don't get me wrong, i don't think its bad to get a skillcape. I will probably try to get one soon myself. But surely, playing Runescape (which should be a hobby that you do in your spare time) and doing your job or studying for an exam or practicing a musical instrument ect. would be slightlydifferent? Oh, and its funny (and hypocritical) that you tell me not to "criticize what i haven't tried" when i recall you criticizing WoW (and even outlining points describing in detail why its bad) despite never having played it yourself.

[hihihi727]

This what made me think that

 

 

 

"New players won't sign up for a runescape account because skillcapes are f2p, and f2p players won't become members because they have skillcapes either."

 

I'm not saying that the skill cape is the only reason that people get members. I'm saying that f2p getting skillcapes doesn't benefit Jagex in any way. Wouldn't it better if f2p got an update that would also create new accounts/create new members, in turn allowing more updates?

 

 

 

Think of it like working towards a goal.

 

 

 

Doesn't matter, it still doesn't change the fact that all you are doing is playing a computer game and doing what should be a hobby. A skillcape is not something you deserve because its an "awesome achievment". Its just another item. Do f2pers "deserve" God Swords because it takes longer to earn? Do f2pers "need" Dragon Claws because in order to get them, they have to "work hard"?

 

 

 

Also, you are being very confusing. You tell me that getting a skillcape qualifies as work

 

Think of it like working towards a goal.

 

but yet you are telling me the opposite here.

 

Work harder should be changed to play longer, there not physically exhausted but they do have to play longer to get the same result.

 

 

 

You seem to disagree with me about skillcapes not being an amazing achievement. If, according to you, they are an amazing achievment, they must obviously be respect worthy, right? Example of you disagreeing:

 

In a sense you are working, you are working towards a goal. You might not get tierd from it but you are working.

 

Yet you seem to agree with me here o.O

 

I thought "I guess he has 99 att" then carried on with what I was doing, I never gave him any respect or anything.

[Troacctid]

This what made me think that

 

 

 

"New players won't sign up for a runescape account because skillcapes are f2p, and f2p players won't become members because they have skillcapes either."

 

I'm not saying that the skill cape is the only reason that people get members. I'm saying that f2p getting skillcapes doesn't benefit Jagex in any way. Wouldn't it better if f2p got an update that would also create new accounts/create new members, in turn allowing more updates?

 

This would be a valid point if giving skillcapes to free players would take up a significant amount of programmers' time that could be spent on other updates; however, it's unlikely that is the case.

[hihihi727]

This what made me think that

 

 

 

"New players won't sign up for a runescape account because skillcapes are f2p, and f2p players won't become members because they have skillcapes either."

 

I'm not saying that the skill cape is the only reason that people get members. I'm saying that f2p getting skillcapes doesn't benefit Jagex in any way. Wouldn't it better if f2p got an update that would also create new accounts/create new members, in turn allowing more updates?

 

This would be a valid point if giving skillcapes to free players would take up a significant amount of programmers' time that could be spent on other updates; however, it's unlikely that is the case.

 

 

 

I outlined my ideas on this before.

 

 

 

Such an update would inspire f2pers to get 99's. During the time they try to get this 99, they will not be feel that the f2p world lacks too much and they will be content. Only after they finally get the skillcape will they realise that f2p is pretty boring and small and they should get members. (Exceptions are people that will never become p2p because they think their achievements will be more impressive or something. But these people are never going to pay for members anyway.) However, if they didn't have skill capes they could have realised that f2p is pretty boring and small MUCH earlier on and get members faster. Skillcapes are too high leveled for an f2p update.

 

 

 

Skillcapes are too much of a high leveled update. NO other item or quest requirement even comes close to getting a 99. I think the next highest is the inferno adze which requires level92 firemaking, which is only halfway to 99, and this is in arguably one of the fastest skills in the game. A 99 in a skill in f2p would take several hours to earn. (BTW, don't confuse this with hard work)

 

 

 

Scenario1: Level 60 who has finished all the free quests ect.

 

There are no skillcapes, but there has been some other update- like a new boss. He fights the boss, and then realises that its really fun and after a week he gets members so he can fight more. (Well, he isn't going to kill that same boss over and over again for several months, is he?)

 

 

 

There are skillcapes. He decides that he wants a strength cape because they look l337. Several months later, he gets one. It looks cool, but he decides that it would be even cooler if it was trimmed. He tries to get 99cooking but after a month he finally decides that he wants members instead. Thats a few months of membership that Jagex lost.

 

 

 

Scenario2: A competitive f2p player who is always at the top of the f2p high scores/someone who can't afford to pay for membership

 

There are skillcapes. He gets an extra item and is happy

 

 

 

There are no skillcapes. He stays f2p because his achievements are more impressive that way/he can't pay for membership

 

Either way Jagex does not get any money from membership, by far their main source of income

 

 

 

Scenario3: A person wondering whether he should start playing Runescape. His friends tries to convince him that he should:

 

There are skillcapes. "OMG Runescape is so awesome you should play it did you know that if you spend several months clicking rocks you get a free cape!?!!"

 

 

 

There are no skillcapes, but instead Jagex adds a new mini game to f2p. "OMG Runescape is so awesome you should play it did you know that you can play castle wars!?!!"

 

A new player would be more enticed by something fun, rather than by an item they won't get for months, probably years.

[quelmotz]

Quote:

 

Skillcapes require dedication and patience. Do you have a 99? If you don't, don't criticize what you haven't tried. If you do, you should know how boring it is, and how much dedication and patience you need to do it, especially for skills like mining, runecrafting, etc etc.

 

 

 

Yep. Dedication and patience towards playing a computer game. Some people would call that addiction. Maybe i haven't tried getting a skillcape myself yet because i actually have real work to do...lol.... don't get me wrong, i don't think its bad to get a skillcape. I will probably try to get one soon myself. But surely, playing Runescape (which should be a hobby that you do in your spare time) and doing your job or studying for an exam or practicing a musical instrument ect. would be slightly different? Oh, and its funny (and hypocritical) that you tell me not to "criticize what i haven't tried" when i recall you criticizing WoW (and even outlining points describing in detail why its bad) despite never having played it yourself.

 

 

 

So just because its a computer game, all arguments on the other side are immediately declared void?

 

 

 

Playing a computer game is a freaking hobby. Practicing a musical instrument is also a hobby. Contradiction here?

 

 

 

A hobby is what you do in your spare time. You mean you do your work during your spare time? I honestly doubt so.

 

 

 

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Interpretation, please. Just because you didn't say something doesn't mean we can't infer. We're not brainless morons who can only draw direct conclusions. We can think.

 

 

 

If so, could you please point out what made you think that supposedly i think that the the main factor of getting a membership is for the cape? Which is weird since I obviously don't think that all nor do i recall implying it. In fact it doesn't even have anything to do with my points. Perfect probably misread my post or something. Speak for yourself.

 

 

 

Your WHOLE freaking post implied that. Stop trying to feint ignorance. Or are your reading skills really so disgusting?

 

 

 

 

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Also, most office jobs just require repetitive action, which ISN'T "intense thinking". Answering phones, secretaries, etc.

 

 

 

You don't actually think that getting a skillcape qualifies as hard work simply because its repetitive like an office job? Getting a skillcape may be tedious. But its not work. Its playing a computer game. Get over it. Even answering a phone would be intense thinking compared to clicking on a tree while watching TV or something.

 

 

 

Tediousness is a part of difficulty. :roll:

 

 

 

I never said getting skillcapes qualifies as hard work. I said its similar to office jobs which are repetitive.

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This what made me think that

 

 

 

"New players won't sign up for a runescape account because skillcapes are f2p, and f2p players won't become members because they have skillcapes either."

 

 

 

I'm not saying that the skill cape is the only reason that people get members. I'm saying that f2p getting skillcapes doesn't benefit Jagex in any way. Wouldn't it better if f2p got an update that would also create new accounts/create new members, in turn allowing more updates?

 

 

 

It sound like that was what you were saying.

 

 

 

Think of it like working towards a goal.

 

 

 

Doesn't matter, it still doesn't change the fact that all you are doing is playing a computer game and doing what should be a hobby. A skillcape is not something you deserve because its an "awesome achievment". Its just another item. Do f2pers "deserve" God Swords because it takes longer to earn? Do f2pers "need" Dragon Claws because in order to get them, they have to "work hard"?

 

 

 

There is a massive difference between, a crap cape and a godsword.

 

 

 

Why do members need/ skill capes to show off that they got a 99 or 2 that is all f2p want to do.

 

 

 

Think of it like working towards a goal.

 

 

 

but yet you are telling me the opposite here.

 

 

 

Work harder should be changed to play longer, there not physically exhausted but they do have to play longer to get the same result.

 

 

 

You seem to disagree with me about skillcapes not being an amazing achievement. If, according to you, they arean amazing achievment, they must obviously be respect worthy, right? Example of you disagreeing:

 

 

 

In a sense you are working, you are working towards a goal. You might not get tierd from it but you are working.

 

 

 

 

 

Yet you seem to agree with me here o.O

 

 

 

I thought "I guess he has 99 att" then carried on with what I was doing, I never gave him any respect or anything.

 

 

 

I thought well if people insist on calling it work, I might aswell go with the flow but try and change there perception a bit.

 

 

 

I have never thought skill capes were amazing, it is just a way to be recognised.