PCing- Immoral?

[xpx]

i, honestly, have more respect for legends cape then those crappy att/def/str/hp/cook/fletch and thieving capes. They think they look cool with a cape like that, but really, only thing they are showing off is how cheap they are...

 

 

 

Why cheap? those people just think- a skillcape is a skill cape, but no, it isn't. When people see a mining or agility cape they know how much work has been put into getting it, and respect them, and there really isnt anything to respectable about easy skillcapes.

[gspbeetle]

the reason why jagex cannot make some high level raiding dungeons, like some other *cough* famous *ahem* mmorpg...

 

 

 

is because there is not enough people with 99lv (or maxed) combat stats...

 

 

 

pc is the key to get you some exciting updates....

[Syd]

i, honestly, have more respect for legends cape then those crappy att/def/str/hp/cook/fletch and thieving capes. They think they look cool with a cape like that, but really, only thing they are showing off is how cheap they are...

 

 

 

Why cheap? those people just think- a skillcape is a skill cape, but no, it isn't. When people see a mining or agility cape they know how much work has been put into getting it, and respect them, and there really isnt anything to respectable about easy skillcapes.

 

First thing, it looks like you have all those "easy" skillcapes yourself too..

 

 

 

Here we can see an excellent example of a guy who wants to push his ego up with his skillcapes. Everyone in this game has a permit to do whatever they want according to the rules set by jagex. Getting a "cheap" skillcape is everyones own decision and I respect it. Like do you think if some newcomer wears bronze armours, he is a totally jerk becouse looking like he haven't put any effort to it? Most people wear their skillcapes becouse it's achievement to them, not everyone can play this game as much as you do and set as hard goals as you. If I would have 99 stat I would wear the skillcape with pride, no matter what anyone thinks. I would wear it just for me, to remember myself what I can do. Like it seems you can't really take it this is a game, not a work.. You don't honestly need anyones respect to make this game fun. It seems like all you think is what other people think about you. I wouldn't care less if someone had better stats than I do.. Instead of you I give my respect to everyone as a human and by their personality, not by the skills they got.

 

It's mad I would have so many things to critisize about players like you, who think they are somehow upper class to other players, just becouse they have higher combat and total, but becouse this is public forum I rather not tell everything I feel.

 

 

 

This gone pretty much offtopic, so to the PC. In my opinion it's good thing to have. I like to change between things I do like, PC - Slayer - Barrows.. Really, most of the people who call PC cheap and stuff, are the ones who get too bored to it after one game, and after that they keep calling it cheap and wrong way to level. And they rather afk train at axehut or something..

 

 

 

To sum up my thoughts, I think all of you guys who call Pest Controllers noobs, should think again. PC has been added to the game by jagex, and it's nothing like dishonourable to use. You have the same opportunities to go and play PC if you want, it's not an advantage to some people, it's advantage to everyone.

 

 

 

I really like how some of you like Hohto and Aquaschok told your opinion about it, nice texts, really. =D>

[JimmyMcNabb]

The reason why I hate PC is not because it's faster than other combat training methods, I don't like it because you get little hitpoints exp from playing the game(Thats if you don't use your points on Hp which most people don't)

 

 

 

It takes off a good 1-6 Hp lvls off what the average player would have at the same combat if they havent used Pc.

 

 

 

Thats exactly my thought, I feel it makes you unbalanced as you can treble exp on strength or another combat stat whilst leaving hp and the other behind.

 

Kinda unbalances your combat stats.

[GrimHams]

I have no problem with the fast xp. (i pc because if i didnt i'd still be 90 cb or something :P) but i dont like the idea that i could get 99 range without using a bow.

 

 

 

Oh another one (i love to hate them) pures using pest control further muck up combat by being 99 strength at an even lower level, the influx of pced pures also has an effect on people pking at lower levels (literally no one pks unless they've made an account for pking 3-90 cb).

 

 

 

i, honestly, have more respect for legends cape then those crappy att/def/str/hp/cook/fletch and thieving capes. They think they look cool with a cape like that, but really, only thing they are showing off is how cheap they are...

 

 

 

What the hell with thieving, i hardly see anyone with 99 thieving, its much more clicky clicky and difficult to level over fletching/cooking. Oh and by the way not all of us have the spare time you obviously do considering you have 99 in about 15 skills, 99 even in fletching is a big achievement for some people.

[hoffmanbmxx]

The only thing i have against pc is that IMO, it doesn't really fit in with the style of the game, and that you can use your points on magic or range if you didn't use in the game. This ticks me off cause someone can go from 40-99 mage using only a dds and whip...

[Severation]

Just say that someone found an even faster way to train fletching, everyone would use it without arguement. I don't see how combat is any different, because at the end of the day, they're still skills.

 

 

 

I personally have nothing wrong with pc, nor anyone that uses it.

 

 

 

But that's not to say that I use it. I find it extremely boring and can't last long there.

[xpx]

i, honestly, have more respect for legends cape then those crappy att/def/str/hp/cook/fletch and thieving capes. They think they look cool with a cape like that, but really, only thing they are showing off is how cheap they are...

 

 

 

Why cheap? those people just think- a skillcape is a skill cape, but no, it isn't. When people see a mining or agility cape they know how much work has been put into getting it, and respect them, and there really isnt anything to respectable about easy skillcapes.

 

First thing, it looks like you have all those "easy" skillcapes yourself too..

 

 

 

Here we can see an excellent example of a guy who wants to push his ego up with his skillcapes. Everyone in this game has a permit to do whatever they want according to the rules set by jagex. Getting a "cheap" skillcape is everyones own decision and I respect it. Like do you think if some newcomer wears bronze armours, he is a totally jerk becouse looking like he haven't put any effort to it? Most people wear their skillcapes becouse it's achievement to them, not everyone can play this game as much as you do and set as hard goals as you. If I would have 99 stat I would wear the skillcape with pride, no matter what anyone thinks. I would wear it just for me, to remember myself what I can do. Like it seems you can't really take it this is a game, not a work.. You don't honestly need anyones respect to make this game fun. It seems like all you think is what other people think about you. I wouldn't care less if someone had better stats than I do.. Instead of you I give my respect to everyone as a human and by their personality, not by the skills they got.

 

It's mad I would have so many things to critisize about players like you, who think they are somehow upper class to other players, just becouse they have higher combat and total, but becouse this is public forum I rather not tell everything I feel.

 

 

 

This gone pretty much offtopic, so to the PC. In my opinion it's good thing to have. I like to change between things I do like, PC - Slayer - Barrows.. Really, most of the people who call PC cheap and stuff, are the ones who get too bored to it after one game, and after that they keep calling it cheap and wrong way to level. And they rather afk train at axehut or something..

 

 

 

To sum up my thoughts, I think all of you guys who call Pest Controllers noobs, should think again. PC has been added to the game by jagex, and it's nothing like dishonourable to use. You have the same opportunities to go and play PC if you want, it's not an advantage to some people, it's advantage to everyone.

 

 

 

I really like how some of you like Hohto and Aquaschok told your opinion about it, nice texts, really. =D>

 

Just like pc made combat easier, cooking, fletching and thieving have been made alot easier, and used to be very hard to level aswell, and i was one of the people who got 99 cooking and flethcing without fletch/cook x, and as a skiller, why not level all skills.

 

 

 

And my point is, there is nothing to be proud about pc-ing your way to lvl 126, it used to be an achievement, but now, it is just too easy.

[Fiacrah]

Just on the topic of fast, ''free" levels, I'd hate to think how many levels I've gained through Tears of Guthix... :

[FastForce]

who doesn't love PC honestly?

[Kevin_]

I have no problem with the fast xp. (i pc because if i didnt i'd still be 90 cb or something :P) but i dont like the idea that i could get 99 range without using a bow.

 

 

 

Oh another one (i love to hate them) pures using pest control further muck up combat by being 99 strength at an even lower level, the influx of pced pures also has an effect on people pking at lower levels (literally no one pks unless they've made an account for pking 3-90 cb).

 

 

 

i, honestly, have more respect for legends cape then those crappy att/def/str/hp/cook/fletch and thieving capes. They think they look cool with a cape like that, but really, only thing they are showing off is how cheap they are...

 

 

 

What the hell with thieving, i hardly see anyone with 99 thieving, its much more clicky clicky and difficult to level over fletching/cooking. Oh and by the way not all of us have the spare time you obviously do considering you have 99 in about 15 skills, 99 even in fletching is a big achievement for some people.

 

Pyramid Plunder gives over 230k xp an hour, don't tell me that isn't easy.

[Eccentric]

There's always going to be people who say they did things the hard, and some how that is more noble than any other way. It's stupid. A lot of people say it's easier, but really it's a case of apples and oranges; who cares which way is 'easier'? Some people like apples, some people like oranges, and some people like both. Harping on PC because it's tarnished the glory of melee training or some garbage like that is like harping on an apple because it's an apple; it's always going to be an apple, it's not going to change, so it's a huge waste of energy.

 

 

 

As far as skill capes go, well, people are always going to assume the worst of yours. Someone out there isn't going to respect what it represents to you. Who cares? Let them live with that. You know what it means, what it took, and at the end of the day that's all that really matters. Life is too short to worry about that sort of thing.

[lewagold2]

I haven't gotten more then 10 PC points simply because I hate it. I don't like that people can go and get cheap xp while the few, honorable people train on npc after monotonous npc. Why do they get the easy way out?

 

 

 

 

 

I think we're throwing around the word 'honor' here. There is nothing dishonorable about using PC, it's a legal addition to the game; like using a gym compared to push ups and sit ups only. This is kind of like the so-called 'honor' in PVP, 'stay there and let me kill you.' Essentially, in Runescape, honor seems to mean "play the game as boring and weighted against you as possible." This isn't life, it's a game, meant to be fun, not boring as hell. It mgiht be and easier means to use PC, but it's not some cheap easy way out that's not fair. If you want to prove yourself, go ahead, but you're more hardcore than Honorable (or just stupid :mrgreen: ).

 

 

 

Please don't compare what I said to those(but not all) idiotic PKers who do that. Those who call you Prayer, Defence, and so on Noobs, they have nothing to do with what I said.

[joke_slayer]

i have several problems with pc

 

 

 

mainly the attitudes it creats, and the lack of knowledge of the game it gives these high level "pc prods"

 

 

 

for example yesterday i was flamed by a level 126 for not wasting my time leading him to trouble brewing,

 

 

 

normaly these attitudes and lack of knowledge would have been filtered out of the game by the "normal" way of training, while with pc you get such idiots, who don't know the location of relatively popular minigames, and are too lazy to open a map, or a guide to find out for themselves, and flame you if you don't do it for them

 

 

 

 

 

at least me and other people who trained with slayer will be able to laugh at these people when a new high level slayer monster which drops an expensive item is released.

 

 

 

 

 

Another thing i dislike is the rewards, usually for a skills there are several options: fast and expensive (or you have less profit like in wc), or slow and cheaper (or where you gain more money/lose less money, but go slower), in pc however you get the fastest melee exp and a large ammount of money which adds up over time (not as much as slayer, but a lot more than say magic axes).

 

 

 

 

 

And finally of course there is the fact that you can get to 99 mage/range/prayer, without casting a single spell/fireing a single arrow/bury a single bone (at least after a certain level)

[Leonn]

I haven't gotten more then 10 PC points simply because I hate it. I don't like that people can go and get cheap xp while the few, honorable people train on npc after monotonous npc. Why do they get the easy way out?

 

 

 

Mate, people play the way they wanna play. Tbh I would rather honor in real life than e-honor. If you don't like how people wanna lvl and play, what you gonna do about it, seriously, you gonna shout at pc "Stop it, its cheap to lvl fast" just accept that you cant change a THING

 

 

 

 

 

Leonn

 

 

 

P.S flame me all you want i dont care [bleep]

[berbatovsky]

Pc is boring but so is killing the same monster over and over again. Getting any skill to 99 will involve severe amounts of determination regardless of new methods Jagex introduce for gaining XP. I don't disrespect people who PC a lot, but they do piss me off because they know nothing abotu the game, i know a huge amount about this game because i DONT PC, i learnt where all the monsters are, and shortcuts, and raw materials, and everythign else, i have peeps on my friend list with 80 combat, 6 slayer and NO knowledge of the game they are playing. Thats what PC costs people, knowledge.

[ReapMe]

Should you care about the way others level up?

 

If you think you deserve more credit for clicking on monsters rather than portals then go ahead and think that.

[Utopianflame]

I despise the fact you can use melee to train magic and range via PC, to me that is immoral. Beyond that I don't really care, things have got easier, in most if not all skills, thast just something we have to live with.

[xSxqPowerx]

I can get like 70k exp an hour training melee without pc (but I'm already 99)

 

I never used pc myself, but it's hardly as good as people make it sound, not to mention you have to be in a really good pc group.

 

 

 

I'd still much rather train by slayer, where you get additional hp exp, slayer exp, and money. Not to mention huge melee exp with black mask on good tasks.

[Celestrana]

thats why I have a quest cape. No way to cheat that :)

 

 

 

Although I relied on Tip.it's Quest Guides to get through many quests, I used them with the intention of "fast tracking" my Quest Cape in 5 months of members. Still, it takes a tremendous amount of effort to get the required skills and I still had to go through the puzzles myself.

 

 

 

I'm not a rich player so I don't have amazing equipment like the coveted Abyssal Whip. Instead, I used my skills, wit, tactics and whatever inexpensive equipment I can muster.

 

 

 

It's incredible how far the Rune platebody and Rune plateskirt can take you especially since I have finally obtained my Quest Cape. :thumbsup:

[krisc6]

people who complain that pc has ruined old schoolers need to move on or stick to what they know well.

 

 

 

you dont have to use pc but the fact you can is great.rs isntt going round forever so why waste time living up to expecatations and just achieve that goal as fast as possible.

 

i wouldnt want to have to play 300 or so hours getting 99 attack when i can spend a hundred at pc and move onto another skill.

 

 

 

thats my oppnion and im entitled to it.

[Syd]

i, honestly, have more respect for legends cape then those crappy att/def/str/hp/cook/fletch and thieving capes. They think they look cool with a cape like that, but really, only thing they are showing off is how cheap they are...

 

 

 

Why cheap? those people just think- a skillcape is a skill cape, but no, it isn't. When people see a mining or agility cape they know how much work has been put into getting it, and respect them, and there really isnt anything to respectable about easy skillcapes.

 

First thing, it looks like you have all those "easy" skillcapes yourself too..

 

 

 

Here we can see an excellent example of a guy who wants to push his ego up with his skillcapes. Everyone in this game has a permit to do whatever they want according to the rules set by jagex. Getting a "cheap" skillcape is everyones own decision and I respect it. Like do you think if some newcomer wears bronze armours, he is a totally jerk becouse looking like he haven't put any effort to it? Most people wear their skillcapes becouse it's achievement to them, not everyone can play this game as much as you do and set as hard goals as you. If I would have 99 stat I would wear the skillcape with pride, no matter what anyone thinks. I would wear it just for me, to remember myself what I can do. Like it seems you can't really take it this is a game, not a work.. You don't honestly need anyones respect to make this game fun. It seems like all you think is what other people think about you. I wouldn't care less if someone had better stats than I do.. Instead of you I give my respect to everyone as a human and by their personality, not by the skills they got.

 

It's mad I would have so many things to critisize about players like you, who think they are somehow upper class to other players, just becouse they have higher combat and total, but becouse this is public forum I rather not tell everything I feel.

 

 

 

This gone pretty much offtopic, so to the PC. In my opinion it's good thing to have. I like to change between things I do like, PC - Slayer - Barrows.. Really, most of the people who call PC cheap and stuff, are the ones who get too bored to it after one game, and after that they keep calling it cheap and wrong way to level. And they rather afk train at axehut or something..

 

 

 

To sum up my thoughts, I think all of you guys who call Pest Controllers noobs, should think again. PC has been added to the game by jagex, and it's nothing like dishonourable to use. You have the same opportunities to go and play PC if you want, it's not an advantage to some people, it's advantage to everyone.

 

 

 

I really like how some of you like Hohto and Aquaschok told your opinion about it, nice texts, really. =D>

 

Just like pc made combat easier, cooking, fletching and thieving have been made alot easier, and used to be very hard to level aswell, and i was one of the people who got 99 cooking and flethcing without fletch/cook x, and as a skiller, why not level all skills.

 

 

 

And my point is, there is nothing to be proud about pc-ing your way to lvl 126, it used to be an achievement, but now, it is just too easy.

 

 

 

Looks like you haven't even tried PC ever.. It's not easy, it still takes thousands and thousands of games to get 99 there, it might be a bit easier but it's not easy. And it is an achievement, really. Try yourself get even 100 points and see how boring it actually is.

[Stewie_Griffen]

I don't like it.

 

 

 

There are some people who were level 90 when PC came out, and got to 120+ with it. Okay, good. At least you know how the game works. But then there's the level 40 who trained at Rock Crabs just to be able to go to Pest Control, and they end up being a level 110 with an 800 total level who doesn't know the difference between a monkfish and a manta ray. I hate those kinds of people, when you insult them they call you a noob because of their combat.

 

 

 

And all the pures. I guarantee there were less pures before Pest Control. But now, everyone and their grandma has a pure. I've seen more pures everywhere than I've seen before Pest Control. There's pures all over Edgeville, pures in fighter torsos by the Abyss, pures at the mage bank, pures at Pest Control, pures in Castle Wars, pures...everywhere. Pures used to be unique, now they're just another account.

[xpx]

i, honestly, have more respect for legends cape then those crappy att/def/str/hp/cook/fletch and thieving capes. They think they look cool with a cape like that, but really, only thing they are showing off is how cheap they are...

 

 

 

Why cheap? those people just think- a skillcape is a skill cape, but no, it isn't. When people see a mining or agility cape they know how much work has been put into getting it, and respect them, and there really isnt anything to respectable about easy skillcapes.

 

First thing, it looks like you have all those "easy" skillcapes yourself too..

 

 

 

Here we can see an excellent example of a guy who wants to push his ego up with his skillcapes. Everyone in this game has a permit to do whatever they want according to the rules set by jagex. Getting a "cheap" skillcape is everyones own decision and I respect it. Like do you think if some newcomer wears bronze armours, he is a totally jerk becouse looking like he haven't put any effort to it? Most people wear their skillcapes becouse it's achievement to them, not everyone can play this game as much as you do and set as hard goals as you. If I would have 99 stat I would wear the skillcape with pride, no matter what anyone thinks. I would wear it just for me, to remember myself what I can do. Like it seems you can't really take it this is a game, not a work.. You don't honestly need anyones respect to make this game fun. It seems like all you think is what other people think about you. I wouldn't care less if someone had better stats than I do.. Instead of you I give my respect to everyone as a human and by their personality, not by the skills they got.

 

It's mad I would have so many things to critisize about players like you, who think they are somehow upper class to other players, just becouse they have higher combat and total, but becouse this is public forum I rather not tell everything I feel.

 

 

 

This gone pretty much offtopic, so to the PC. In my opinion it's good thing to have. I like to change between things I do like, PC - Slayer - Barrows.. Really, most of the people who call PC cheap and stuff, are the ones who get too bored to it after one game, and after that they keep calling it cheap and wrong way to level. And they rather afk train at axehut or something..

 

 

 

To sum up my thoughts, I think all of you guys who call Pest Controllers noobs, should think again. PC has been added to the game by jagex, and it's nothing like dishonourable to use. You have the same opportunities to go and play PC if you want, it's not an advantage to some people, it's advantage to everyone.

 

 

 

I really like how some of you like Hohto and Aquaschok told your opinion about it, nice texts, really. =D>

 

Just like pc made combat easier, cooking, fletching and thieving have been made alot easier, and used to be very hard to level aswell, and i was one of the people who got 99 cooking and flethcing without fletch/cook x, and as a skiller, why not level all skills.

 

 

 

And my point is, there is nothing to be proud about pc-ing your way to lvl 126, it used to be an achievement, but now, it is just too easy.

 

 

 

Looks like you haven't even tried PC ever.. It's not easy, it still takes thousands and thousands of games to get 99 there, it might be a bit easier but it's not easy. And it is an achievement, really. Try yourself get even 100 points and see how boring it actually is.

 

what is more boring, being at undead beings in rsc and gaining 17k attack experiance an hour or slashing away at a place where you cant die and gain 130k attack experiance an hour? i have done a fair bit of pc-ing on my noob, and it is dead-easy.

[Aneron]

I don't have a problem with people who PC, although I find it too boring to use myself... :-#

 

 

 

In reference to the quote wall above, I agree with the sentiment that all 99s are very difficult and boring to get. Except for slayer, but that one's still quite hard :lol:. You can say "ur teh pc nub," but all you're doing is proving you're ignorant. It has already been said that even with the game, getting 99s is very hard, but that doesn't seem to sink in...