Two quick questions to the average player

[Nazgul740]

Please reply to this poll/discussion with the following format for the poll

 

 

 

 

A. yes/no- you say which

 

B. yes/no- say why

 

 

 

 

The first question is, how would you feel about double exp days on holidays and special event days from jagex? All the other mmorpgs I have played have had double and sometimes triple exp days... do you want this to happen ?

 

 

 

Second question is a little different...

 

 

 

Why does jagex place items into obscurity? Case in point the dragon sq shield... Instead of creating an upgrade therefore upping the prices of the hard to get left half (it is left right?) they go

 

and create a whole new shield... dragonfire shield...

 

 

 

Why not just make the visage addable to the dragon sq... instead of forcing this item into obscurity? With this second question please post why you think they do this to older items... Just wait... when they create 80+ defense

armor everything else is going down the drain...

[justcallmedaddy]

No and ok. :)

[pokexpert]

1.Yes and no, i think we should because it will give more chances to get 99s faster than it is already because of course we get more exp then we usually do. But the only bad thing would probably be the amount of lag.

 

2.Well i think we should be able to add on things to old armour but eventually the orginal armour could get more powerful than the new ones so the new ones have to say bye bye, so i'm sort of 50/50.

[Cha0sx]

1. No it's unfair if some players are there for that day and others aren't, although that's not the main problem. The fact is that runescape is not like other MMORPG's where you max your stats out very fast, it is supposed to be a huge challenge that only limited amount of people can do. 400k thieving exp per hour? No ty.

 

 

 

2.No, we need to move on sometimes. Dragonfire shield is too expensive for most so they buy dragon sq, the 3rd best shield but much cheaper and good defenses for the price.

[stan18]

1. We get holiday drops, our equivalent. RS's exp system is a lot different than other MMORPG's, due to skilling and such a heavy reliance on the economy. It wouldn't be the same for rs

 

 

 

2. I have noted, too, how JaGex places items into obscurity. They did the same with many other items - granite shield, d med (which got taken down by frem helms, then again by Helm of neitzenot, then AGAIN by d full). D chain has taken many hits, too. Its a matter of time before 3rd age gets phased out.

 

 

 

I'd also like to note that Jagex doesn't just phase out items, they phase out monsters. The kbd is not worth fighting. The kq has been losing ground every big update. JaGex advertises new items by making them monster specific - d2h, d full, visage to some extent - hell, they made dragon range items only available through hunter! It seems like they're getting less and less creative every update, and to make up for it they add shiny new items to mask their lacking of variety

 

 

 

edit: i just realized jagex phases out minigames, too - look at a list of minigames, and you'll see games that they add and never, ever update. Temple trekking? How about shades of mort'ton? the rewards are crap and useless. gnome restaurant?

 

 

 

and so on...

[manila_rose]

*tosses in my two cents*

 

 

 

1. I personally think it would be a bad idea. :S Runescape has a different xp leveling system then most other MMORPGs I've played, plus, can you imagine the chaos of trying to log on during weekends?

 

 

 

2. With your example of the D Square, I'm not super suprised. The rest of the Dragon equips got upstaged by Barrows as best armor, why should the Square be any different? It's time for new and better things. :)

[Allmonkey]

 

edit: i just realized jagex phases out minigames, too - look at a list of minigames, and you'll see games that they add and never, ever update. Temple trekking? How about shades of mort'ton? the rewards are crap and useless. gnome restaurant?

 

 

 

and so on...

 

 

 

Just to point out Temple trekking has been updated to make it more viable (lumberjack set and other rewards). Shades of mort'ton was fine as is and is actually very profitable and a different way to raise prayer. Gnome restaurant has clothing items that are only available through the game (same goes for trouble brewing.) Mini games are not being phased, if anything they're promoting all their games for all their individual rewards.

[Infernalz2]

how would you feel about double exp days on holidays and special event days from jagex?

 

A:no. with multiple exp, people would get every monster camped. it would be chaos, thousands of people scattered around each world at every monster, people ranting about other people stealing their kills. with all of the spots camped, there would be tons of rare drops, prices drop etc. etc. etc.

 

 

 

Why not just make the visage addable to the dragon sq... instead of forcing this item into obscurity?

 

A: becasue the dragon sq. dosent deflect dragon fire. if they put it on that, they would have to make all of them do that. since they dont now, and have been out for some time, they cant really change it. its on the anti-dragon shield because that shield blocks the dragon fire. attaching 1 thing to it would make it an upgrade/addition, not a complete revamp of the item.

[RoswellCrash]

No to the double exp those other games your talking about are mainly based on Combat only and that the only thing you need exp for, so no RuneScape should not have this as it would ruin the game.

 

 

 

As for the D square thing, I don't really care its good as it is..

 

 

 

I play games like flyff, you get exp for combat and that's the only skill you can train really is combat so x2 exp isn't so bad but RuneScape is a little different.

[Samsam]

1 bad idea, it would be unfair to many people and also people are encouraged to be with family more on holidays, more exp would not really help encourage that >.<

 

 

 

2. I think they are trying to make the gap between the hugely rich and hugely poor smaller. Upgrading the d square as it is would not create as big of a price as needed, and also, many are already in circulation which may be a bit unfair for people that didn't have a shield at the time of the update.

[TheAncient]

A. No. I would rather spend my holidays with family and friends than on an online game. Jagex has done the morally right thing by making their holiday events longer. Plus, more people would complain if you had 2x XP days.

 

 

 

B. Yes. I've been thinking about this too. Jagex's style - always creating new things instead of improving on the old - creates many imbalance problems in RS. The combat triangle hasn't been maintained, there are loads of useless weapons, the game is one-dimensional, and the game is too simple. The reason they add so many new things is because its a cheap gimmick to get shallow people (noobs) to keep on playing. But in the long-term, it'll end up biting them back in the rear for making the game so simple.

[Dragonlordjl]

A. No. I would rather spend my holidays with family and friends than on an online game. Jagex has done the morally right thing by making their holiday events longer. Plus, more people would complain if you had 2x XP days.

 

 

 

B. Yes. I've been thinking about this too. Jagex's style - always creating new things instead of improving on the old - creates many imbalance problems in RS. The combat triangle hasn't been maintained, there are loads of useless weapons, the game is one-dimensional, and the game is too simple. The reason they add so many new things is because its a cheap gimmick to get shallow people (noobs) to keep on playing. But in the long-term, it'll end up biting them back in the rear for making the game so simple.

 

 

 

Very true. The game is completely one dimensional... There is no variety to weaponry, like there is in other rpgs. You do not gain an advantage by using certain types of weapons, even though they intended it that way with the slash/stab/crush system... The abyssal whip is the end-all-be-all. The same applies to armor... There is no point in wearing anything other than barrow armor, as it is far superior to everything else. Jagex has boxed themselves into a corner content-wise by making the game so linear. Unless drastic changes are made in the way combat operates, the game will likely not last past 2010.

 

 

 

One way to make combat more diverse is to add damage bonuses/handicaps against certain types of armor with certain types of weapons..

 

 

 

For example, when using Stab against chainmail, your max hit is +5 higher than normal. However, when using crush against chain mail, your max hit is -5 less than normal. This would make combat require more strategy and add purpose to more archaic weapons, like warhammers and spears.

 

 

 

They also need to make armor enchantable, with each enchant giving both an advantage AND a disadvantage. Say, sapphire enchant on Rune armor gives it a prayer bonus of +2 but reduces strength by -2. They need MODIFICATIONS instead of COMPLETELY NEW stuff, but when the armor is modified, it requires a higher defense level. This is the only way to add diversity to the game, in addition to filling in the end levels (80-99) while still not totally overpowering anything.

[retaxis2]

Yeah i think jagex should allow us to upgrade some of our items.

 

 

 

For example. We can use lots of rare stuff with each other and upgrade the item better and stronger.

 

 

 

Also jagex should put more effort into clans and guilds.

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe a guild ladder. Guilds can also fight each other and Jagex can give like 10mil GP to the strongest guild at the end of the year or w/e.

[berbatovsky]

A)No, thats just stupid.

 

 

 

B)Is rune armour obsolete? dragon armour is superior in every way, why doesn't everyone wear dragon? Because of course not everyone has the money to buy it, in other words the cost is prohibitive. The square shield isn't obsolete at all (points at slayers>>).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

A. No. I would rather spend my holidays with family and friends than on an online game. Jagex has done the morally right thing by making their holiday events longer. Plus, more people would complain if you had 2x XP days.

 

 

 

B. Yes. I've been thinking about this too. Jagex's style - always creating new things instead of improving on the old - creates many imbalance problems in RS. The combat triangle hasn't been maintained, there are loads of useless weapons, the game is one-dimensional, and the game is too simple. The reason they add so many new things is because its a cheap gimmick to get shallow people (noobs) to keep on playing. But in the long-term, it'll end up biting them back in the rear for making the game so simple.

 

 

 

Very true. The game is completely one dimensional... There is no variety to weaponry, like there is in other rpgs. You do not gain an advantage by using certain types of weapons, even though they intended it that way with the slash/stab/crush system... The abyssal whip is the end-all-be-all. The same applies to armor... There is no point in wearing anything other than barrow armor, as it is far superior to everything else. Jagex has boxed themselves into a corner content-wise by making the game so linear. Unless drastic changes are made in the way combat operates, the game will likely not last past 2010.

 

 

 

One way to make combat more diverse is to add damage bonuses/handicaps against certain types of armor with certain types of weapons..

 

 

 

For example, when using Stab against chainmail, your max hit is +5 higher than normal. However, when using crush against chain mail, your max hit is -5 less than normal. This would make combat require more strategy and add purpose to more archaic weapons, like warhammers and spears.

 

 

 

They also need to make armor enchantable, with each enchant giving both an advantage AND a disadvantage. Say, sapphire enchant on Rune armor gives it a prayer bonus of +2 but reduces strength by -2. They need MODIFICATIONS instead of COMPLETELY NEW stuff, but when the armor is modified, it requires a higher defense level. This is the only way to add diversity to the game, in addition to filling in the end levels (80-99) while still not totally overpowering anything.

 

 

 

Meh didn't see this, modifications are a great idea, but probably tremendously difficult to code, because you'd basically have thousands if not tens of thousands of possible combinations. I'd like to see it happen though if its possible.

[spikerkid]

As much as I want that, no. Holidays are ment to be with your family and friends. If we had double xp so many people would be no lifing to play rs instead of doing what you do during holidays. Only thing I could think of would be talk to Santa (or whatever holiday it is) after you get your holiday gift. He will set a timer where you get one hour of double the exp.

 

 

 

And Dragon Sq should just be let the same. It's a classic dragon item so why change it just because it's cheap. It'll always be 800k atleast.

[imaerehw14]

1) i wish, however, like tohers have said, the xp leveling system is a bit different from other mmorpg's. having double/tripple xp days would be crazy. i wish it would happen because there are some skills i just dont want to train that much, so tripple the xp would help.

 

 

 

2) i also was disapointed when they didnt upgrade the dragon square shield. I thought it would have been a good opertunity to start upgradeable weapons/items like other games have. It would also revive dragon left half prices from the measly 200k or whatever it is. upgradeable items would have opend a whole new door. Enchanted weapons/armor, extra defense added to armor, changing weapons to hit harder, etc. it would have been very nice, however, i guess jagex didnt think so.

[halo2_rocks7]

Yeah i think jagex should allow us to upgrade some of our items.

 

 

 

For example. We can use lots of rare stuff with each other and upgrade the item better and stronger.

 

 

 

Also jagex should put more effort into clans and guilds.

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe a guild ladder. Guilds can also fight each other and Jagex can give like 10mil GP to the strongest guild at the end of the year or w/e.

 

 

 

Um, clan chat? And about the guilds, this isn't Guild Wars, sorry.

 

 

 

A) No, that's just stupid. Can you imagine all the no-lifers that'll be on RS, rather than with their families?

 

 

 

B) I understand what you mean, but some things just aren't made to be changed, and so Jagex adds something better. Than, that thing gets old, and something new replaces that. For example, like someone else said, the D Med. Went from in the millions, to just 350k now. I mean, used to be a awesome drop to get, now it's just 'Oh..a D Med'. :?

[Squire_Slayer]

Yes and whatever.

 

:?

[tintin113]

A. No, because on holidays like this, parents want to go out ect, and one of two things would happen. 1. They go out, and the player has missed out on a great oppotunity to raise xp fast. 2. They don't go out, and the player plays all day to try and get the best advantage possible, thus ruining a perfectly good easter/halloween/christmas.

 

 

 

B. They haven't. They have done what everyone has asked them to, and released a high-level, expensive piece of armour, which can be used by both meleers, mages, and rangers. Melee with weapon, mage with staff, range with the new, more powerful crossbow. If people want a cheaper piece of armour, with less required to wear it, then the d square is still the best option by far.

[12pure34]

A) NO!

 

B) A decent plan, upgrading existing items. Can't really add anything to it. Especially for the higher gear, this is a big plus! A good idea, no further comments.

[Master_Smither]

1. No, It wouldn't be worth it everyone on at 1 day to get bonus xp. Also why make 99's easier they are supposed to be for the Elite. Imagine the lags too :P

 

 

 

2. They are doing fine, It costs 20M or so and who can afford that seriously I'd rather pay the 1M for my d Square. They fazed out nothing. They just did what we demanded a higher level armour.

[Lord_Joensuu]

:-s

[Will H]

1. No, it would cause problems in many different areas, all of which has been explained by other people.

 

 

 

2. Yeah, releasing new items like this is starting to make the game slightly linear. At least the combat triangle is 2D at best.

 

However, modifying armour (and weapons) would make the game much more interesting. The weapon range is amazingly diverse, which offers much potential, but due to the recession of some weapons, for example the warhammer and spear, and the overpowering of other weapons, for example the whip, has meant that everything is becoming one sided. If there was a weapon... classing system (triangle isn't right because there are far more weapons than just three), perhaps life would be more interesting for the average PKer. Actually, there could be an elemental magic square as well, air beats water, water beats earth, earth beats fire, and fire beats air, however air and earth are equal, and water and fire are equal.

 

And don't forget the rangers. How about a triangle there. Shortbow, Longbow, Crossbow.

 

 

 

Is it me or does this system seem already laid out by Jagex and simply waiting to be set up?

[meb]

1. It would be a great idea, it would allow people to get a desired level faster in a skill they dislike. To get the Agility requirement for ME2 for example.

 

 

 

2. This would be much better than all the pointless items they now have. Now the weapons go scimmies up to dragon, whip. The rest is inferior. Why do we have all those different types when the scimmy is better anyway? And the same goes for armour.

[Veryhyper]

Actually, there could be an elemental magic square as well, air beats water, water beats earth, earth beats fire, and fire beats air, however air and earth are equal, and water and fire are equal.