Hazelmere's Strange Prediction

[warren211]

WARNING: Beware--- if you have not done the quest "The Path of Glouphrie" you may not want to read this thread, it has spoilers for the end of the quest.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So for those of you who didn't skip through all the quest dialogue, you might noticer that at the end of the quest, Hazelmere gives a strange prediction involving 8 brothers and you, the hero, in mage robes staying faithful to guthix.

 

Here's an image of what hazelmere says (in 2 images)

 

 

 

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Any thoughts on what this can mean? 8 brothers... 2 survived.. itd definatly not the barrows brothers. Unless... the 6 brothers we know of died, and the other 2 moved on... can this mean new stuff for the barrows soon? Then stuff about you heading north to fight the mahjarrat. Where did they come from again? weren't they those desert guys for Desert treasure? And of course, the hero dressed in robes but not of the evil order. how many orders in runescape have robes? Then there's stuff of the power of guthix and 2 brothers returning and Hazelmere's gonna pass guardian of tree spirits on to you. Quite a heavy prediction for a little ol' adventurer. Any thoughts?[/hide]

[Michael]

Seems like it's a future quest where you perform some ritual for Zamorak and his followers and you turn on them.

[Dragonwizerd]

I'll be the first to be flamed at

 

 

 

next quest

 

 

 

SUMMONING

[krisc6]

someon mentioned it could be you another "slayer" and teh 6 barrows brothers but i dont really know a lot of rs history

[Fredz]

The Mahjarrat is coming from the north and brings destruction.

 

 

 

 

 

A follow up quest for sure.

 

(Source, the oracle in the august edition of post bag from the hedge.)

 

 

 

Edit, since most people don't look these things up I add it in:

 

 

 

From 29 August 2007 - Postbag from the Hedge

 

Quote strange woman with paint on white face: (Oracle)

 

... The threat from the north shall be of Mahjarrat made.

[baron8000]

Well, it says the 8 who will head north will do so to fight the Mahjarrat deceiver - who most of you will know to be Zamorak.

 

 

 

Who hates Zamorak? Almost every good god this side of Gielinor. Who amongst them will have evil robes? I'm gona guess none of them, that leaves me with Zaros.

 

 

 

So who are these 8? 6 of them will presumably be loyal to Zaros and therefore presumably Mahjarrat. Mahjarrat I know of include Khazard, Hazeel, Lucien, Akthanatos, Azzandra, Drakan, Sliske (sp? the mage who corrupted the barrows brothers), and the Necromancer (someone help me with the name, the one who killed Arrav) although there may be more. Drakan and Lucien I think were some of the Mahjarrat who betrayed Zaros for Zamorak so the are probably out - leaving 6.

 

 

 

So who is to be our ally whilst we sneak amongst these evil (and if you've seen Hazeel, scarily high leveled) persons? We need a follower of guthix; remember Zanik? The goblin bought back to life by guthix as she had an important role to play? I see her and us being the ones who return from this battle.

 

 

 

As for HAM, I don't really think that they have the power to kill off the Mahjarrat deceiver - he's a god, HAM couldnt even kill one lousy goblin.

 

 

 

P.S. I realise this is all conjecture, speculation and guesswork but its just a bit of fun, I'm sure it'll only be a matter of time until someone comes in on the bandwagon shouting against threads like these but if that's your point of view, just ignore it.

[Perakp]

Hazelmere doesn't say that you are one of the eigth brothers, just that he sees you being there somewhere, dressed in a set of evil robes. We'll know what this prediction is about when we get a quest that requires us to wear those robes (ghostly robes maybe? lol).

 

The eight brothers could be anything or anyone. Maybe eigth saradomin monks or some other group we haven't yet heard of. I find it quite silly that people link them to barrows brothers, zanik, the mahjarrat etc. Most of the theories don't have any other proof behind them, but the word 'brothers' that must mean the barrows' bros.

 

But I can't disagree, this is some delicious material to speculate over. Lately, mahjarrats have popped up in many places. The mysterious mage searching something in the Dorgesh Kaan- dungeon, this prediction, shadow sword, and the Oracle's bedtime story.

 

I can give you a piece of advice. Don't get your hopes up. Eyes of Glouphrie was released on 15th August 2006. So it took nearly a year to develop this next part to the questline. It might take another year for the next part to be released. (on the other hand, it only took less than six months for Myreque III to come out after the part II )

[Fredz]

I find it quite silly that people link them to barrows brothers, zanik, the mahjarrat etc. Most of the theories don't have any other proof behind them, but the word 'brothers' that must mean the barrows' bros. ...

 

 

 

Well my friend, I think we have pretty solid proof on the Mahjarrat link. A little bit more than just silly links.

 

 

 

Hazelmere in The Path of Glouphrie quest:

 

Skilled brothers, numbering eight, will assemble to fight the mahjarrat deceiver, and they be heading north to confront him.

 

 

 

Oracle in Postbag from the Hedge:

 

The threat from the north shall be of Mahjarrat made.

[Kriseo]

I got an idea about robes! Maybe its robes of that cult from *what lies below*? they are black and orange i think. I hope they are....i wanted to kill zammy cultists for those robes since the releace of the quest!

[Marco]

Warren stop trying to include current game items into the prediction. Just because it says you will wear robes of evil it doesn't mean you'll be clad in the petty attire of H.A.M.

 

It's much more likely to assume that this story will involve items to come in the future, and also NPCs which we haven't dealt with deeply enough yet (or NPCs we haven't met at all) through quests so far.

 

 

 

I just hope that once your player dons those evil robes to travel to the north (possibly pretending to be evil to gain access to a certain area) you''ll be able to choose which path you want to take, with the majharrat or against them, instead of having to follow one path.

[Perakp]

I find it quite silly that people link them to barrows brothers, zanik, the mahjarrat etc. Most of the theories don't have any other proof behind them, but the word 'brothers' that must mean the barrows' bros. ...

 

 

 

Well my friend, I think we have pretty solid proof on the Mahjarrat link. A little bit more than just silly links.

 

 

 

Hazelmere in The Path of Glouphrie quest:

 

Skilled brothers, numbering eight, will assemble to fight the mahjarrat deceiver, and they be heading north to confront him.

 

 

 

Oracle in Postbag from the Hedge:

 

The threat from the north shall be of Mahjarrat made.

 

 

 

Some people suggested that some or all of the eight could be mahjarrats. Which just doesn't fit. The threat shall be Mahjarrat made, but it doesn't mean the 8 will be. #-o

 

I didn't mean to say that this prediction wasn't about the mahjarrat. That is pretty obvious, eh?

 

If you don't understand something from my posts, please tell me. I feel that I don't understand your message 100%, so if my answer doesn't seem to match your post, then don't worry. :mrgreen:

 

 

 

Your friend, Perakp.

 

 

 

( :XD: )

 

 

 

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edit:

 

Referring to this thread @RSOF

 

qfc: 16-17-356-50893382

 

 

 

Did some investigations, and it looks alright to me..

 

 

 

Could be, or then not. Speculating IS fun.

 

 

 

From the quest ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâôWhat lies below', Dagon'hai are told to be a zamorakian organization that escaped from Varrock to a secret tunnel leading to the chaos altar. It seems to me though that they aren't zamorak followers, but guthix or saradomin ones. Wouldn't be the first time when history was written wrong.

[Will H]

I find it quite silly that people link them to barrows brothers, zanik, the mahjarrat etc. Most of the theories don't have any other proof behind them, but the word 'brothers' that must mean the barrows' bros. ...

 

 

 

Well my friend, I think we have pretty solid proof on the Mahjarrat link. A little bit more than just silly links.

 

 

 

Hazelmere in The Path of Glouphrie quest:

 

Skilled brothers, numbering eight, will assemble to fight the mahjarrat deceiver, and they be heading north to confront him.

 

 

 

Oracle in Postbag from the Hedge:

 

The threat from the north shall be of Mahjarrat made.

 

 

 

Some people suggested that some or all of the eight could be mahjarrats. Which just doesn't fit. The threat shall be Mahjarrat made, but it doesn't mean the 8 will be. #-o

 

I didn't mean to say that this prediction wasn't about the mahjarrat. That is pretty obvious, eh?

 

If you don't understand something from my posts, please tell me. I feel that I don't understand your message 100%, so if my answer doesn't seem to match your post, then don't worry. :mrgreen:

 

 

 

Your friend, Perakp.

 

 

 

( :XD: )

 

 

 

--

 

edit:

 

Referring to this thread @RSOF

 

qfc: 16-17-356-50893382

 

 

 

Did some investigations, and it looks alright to me..

 

 

 

Could be, or then not. Speculating IS fun.

 

 

 

From the quest ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâôWhat lies below', Dagon'hai are told to be a zamorakian organization that escaped from Varrock to a secret tunnel leading to the chaos altar. It seems to me though that they aren't zamorak followers, but guthix or saradomin ones. Wouldn't be the first time when history was written wrong.

 

 

 

True. The saradominists aren't completely good and honest either (The Oracle and Juna the snake warns us not to trust the white knights occasionally)

 

 

 

:wall: Now my brain hurts.

 

 

 

I think we can definately conclude that the Mahjarrat are building up an attack from the north, but these 8 brothers may be people who we may not have met before. Barrows brothers... 6

 

Saradomin priests who protected the river salve... 7

 

 

 

It doesn't add up! :wall:

[YokazenoKyoukan]

this does seem possible

[Made0f12une]

I find it quite silly that people link them to barrows brothers, zanik, the mahjarrat etc. Most of the theories don't have any other proof behind them, but the word 'brothers' that must mean the barrows' bros. ...

 

 

 

Well my friend, I think we have pretty solid proof on the Mahjarrat link. A little bit more than just silly links.

 

 

 

Hazelmere in The Path of Glouphrie quest:

 

Skilled brothers, numbering eight, will assemble to fight the mahjarrat deceiver, and they be heading north to confront him.

 

 

 

Oracle in Postbag from the Hedge:

 

The threat from the north shall be of Mahjarrat made.

 

 

 

Some people suggested that some or all of the eight could be mahjarrats. Which just doesn't fit. The threat shall be Mahjarrat made, but it doesn't mean the 8 will be. #-o

 

I didn't mean to say that this prediction wasn't about the mahjarrat. That is pretty obvious, eh?

 

If you don't understand something from my posts, please tell me. I feel that I don't understand your message 100%, so if my answer doesn't seem to match your post, then don't worry. :mrgreen:

 

 

 

Your friend, Perakp.

 

 

 

( :XD: )

 

 

 

--

 

edit:

 

Referring to this thread @RSOF

 

qfc: 16-17-356-50893382

 

 

 

Did some investigations, and it looks alright to me..

 

 

 

Could be, or then not. Speculating IS fun.

 

 

 

From the quest ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâôWhat lies below', Dagon'hai are told to be a zamorakian organization that escaped from Varrock to a secret tunnel leading to the chaos altar. It seems to me though that they aren't zamorak followers, but guthix or saradomin ones. Wouldn't be the first time when history was written wrong.

 

 

 

True. The saradominists aren't completely good and honest either (The Oracle and Juna the snake warns us not to trust the white knights occasionally)

 

 

 

:wall: Now my brain hurts.

 

 

 

I think we can definately conclude that the Mahjarrat are building up an attack from the north, but these 8 brothers may be people who we may not have met before. Barrows brothers... 6

 

Saradomin priests who protected the river salve... 7

 

 

 

It doesn't add up! :wall:

 

 

 

Just because it says 8 brother it doesn't mean that the 8 are actual brothers. Monks are referred to as brothers, and a group of faithful followers/adventures can be refered to as brothers or brotheren.

[warren211]

Well I'm not saying its HAM, i was just speculating. but of course, i realized that ham is way too weak to kill a goblin, let alone the mighty Mahjarrot. as others have said, it could be some group we haven't even heard of that could be the main feature in the quest.

[Azurechaos]

Well, time to get started on slayer.

[Kilo]

Does anyone remember how many people were needed to summon the demon in the shadow of the storm quest? :-s :wall:

[Sy_Accursed]

 

 

 

So who are these 8? 6 of them will presumably be loyal to Zaros and therefore presumably Mahjarrat. Mahjarrat I know of include Khazard, Hazeel, Lucien, Akthanatos, Azzandra, Drakan, Sliske (sp? the mage who corrupted the barrows brothers), and the Necromancer (someone help me with the name, the one who killed Arrav) although there may be more. Drakan and Lucien I think were some of the Mahjarrat who betrayed Zaros for Zamorak so the are probably out - leaving 6.

 

 

 

 

I think you've hit the nail on the head.

 

 

 

We have DEFINATE knowledge that atleast 6 of the afore mentioned zaors mahjarrat are heading/ed north.

 

 

 

That leaves Sliske and Drakan,but the vampires supported Zamorak

 

 

 

 

 

I think the quest so far would suggest the elves, "hidden" gnomes, apes,some orges and red axe dwarves are plotting against humans.

 

 

 

All evidence it would seem so far that the elves summoning of Zamorak WILL take place, but in the north.

 

 

 

Meanwhile I'd say the afore mentioned races willsweep from the sw regions agaisnt ardy cammy etc. It would seem the werewovles vampires etc want to sweep east from morytania in the name of zammy.

 

 

 

The robes also suggest we are going to be hiding in the zammy forces.

 

 

 

My theory therefore:

 

Humans & good gnomes - distracted by assorted "evil" races in western lands

 

Humans in East - distracted by Zamorakian forces

 

Zaros Mahjarrat - heading north to fight Zammy if he is restored and perhaps use the summoning alter/site to summonZaros

 

Elves - plaining to summon Zammy

 

You - spying within Zammy forces to stop this happening

 

 

 

I'd say allin all when we get there its gonna to be an AMAZING quest that will probably result in us receiving godly power (like zammy did when he killed Zaros) so perhaps a way Jagex have devised to give summoning but not make it widely availble.

 

 

 

I mean a quest of that proportions would no doubt require ATLEAST 70+ in every stat probably closer to 80 or 90 in most, not to mention a huge list of required quests, including alot of hard ones.

 

 

 

NB This is heavily specualted, but I've held this idea for a long time and each of these quests with there little glimmers of information seems to add weight to the probability of this idea being close to truth

[runescapeloser22]

Does anyone remember how many people were needed to summon the demon in the shadow of the storm quest? :-s :wall:

 

On the Tip.It quest guides theres 8 NPC's listed, and one of them was you and another was the golem, then there was the NPC that you talk to start to the quest, then another one somewhere, So i think it was eight people :D

[fastknight20]

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So who are these 8? 6 of them will presumably be loyal to Zaros and therefore presumably Mahjarrat. Mahjarrat I know of include Khazard, Hazeel, Lucien, Akthanatos, Azzandra, Drakan, Sliske (sp? the mage who corrupted the barrows brothers), and the Necromancer (someone help me with the name, the one who killed Arrav) although there may be more. Drakan and Lucien I think were some of the Mahjarrat who betrayed Zaros for Zamorak so the are probably out - leaving 6.

 

 

 

 

I think you've hit the nail on the head.

 

 

 

We have DEFINATE knowledge that atleast 6 of the afore mentioned zaors mahjarrat are heading/ed north.

 

 

 

That leaves Sliske and Drakan,but the vampires supported Zamorak

 

 

 

 

 

I think the quest so far would suggest the elves, "hidden" gnomes, apes,some orges and red axe dwarves are plotting against humans.

 

 

 

All evidence it would seem so far that the elves summoning of Zamorak WILL take place, but in the north.

 

 

 

Meanwhile I'd say the afore mentioned races willsweep from the sw regions agaisnt ardy cammy etc. It would seem the werewovles vampires etc want to sweep east from morytania in the name of zammy.

 

 

 

The robes also suggest we are going to be hiding in the zammy forces.

 

 

 

My theory therefore:

 

Humans & good gnomes - distracted by assorted "evil" races in western lands

 

Humans in East - distracted by Zamorakian forces

 

Zaros Mahjarrat - heading north to fight Zammy if he is restored and perhaps use the summoning alter/site to summonZaros

 

Elves - plaining to summon Zammy

 

You - spying within Zammy forces to stop this happening

 

 

 

I'd say allin all when we get there its gonna to be an AMAZING quest that will probably result in us receiving godly power (like zammy did when he killed Zaros) so perhaps a way Jagex have devised to give summoning but not make it widely availble.

 

 

 

I mean a quest of that proportions would no doubt require ATLEAST 70+ in every stat probably closer to 80 or 90 in most, not to mention a huge list of required quests, including alot of hard ones.

 

 

 

NB This is heavily specualted, but I've held this idea for a long time and each of these quests with there little glimmers of information seems to add weight to the probability of this idea being close to truth

[/hide]

 

Hasn't all known Zaros Mahjarrat already headed north? Persosnally, I think the 8 would be some people we already helped in other quests like Cyrisus, or the Sir Tiffy. Maybe even a slayer master.

 

 

 

Out of the 8, 2 return could mean that only 2 we seen to return home, that doesn't mean they all died. That gives room for 2 npcs to survive and us to live but not be known. The only warrior we know of is Cyrisus, and either Vanaka or Duradel could be the slayer. Our out fit, described by the gnome, doesn't look fit for a warrior or slayer, which is why I went to npcs seen returning home and instead of us and a npc.

[Sy_Accursed]

[hide=huge quote]

 

 

 

So who are these 8? 6 of them will presumably be loyal to Zaros and therefore presumably Mahjarrat. Mahjarrat I know of include Khazard, Hazeel, Lucien, Akthanatos, Azzandra, Drakan, Sliske (sp? the mage who corrupted the barrows brothers), and the Necromancer (someone help me with the name, the one who killed Arrav) although there may be more. Drakan and Lucien I think were some of the Mahjarrat who betrayed Zaros for Zamorak so the are probably out - leaving 6.

 

 

 

 

I think you've hit the nail on the head.

 

 

 

We have DEFINATE knowledge that atleast 6 of the afore mentioned zaors mahjarrat are heading/ed north.

 

 

 

That leaves Sliske and Drakan,but the vampires supported Zamorak

 

 

 

 

 

I think the quest so far would suggest the elves, "hidden" gnomes, apes,some orges and red axe dwarves are plotting against humans.

 

 

 

All evidence it would seem so far that the elves summoning of Zamorak WILL take place, but in the north.

 

 

 

Meanwhile I'd say the afore mentioned races willsweep from the sw regions agaisnt ardy cammy etc. It would seem the werewovles vampires etc want to sweep east from morytania in the name of zammy.

 

 

 

The robes also suggest we are going to be hiding in the zammy forces.

 

 

 

My theory therefore:

 

Humans & good gnomes - distracted by assorted "evil" races in western lands

 

Humans in East - distracted by Zamorakian forces

 

Zaros Mahjarrat - heading north to fight Zammy if he is restored and perhaps use the summoning alter/site to summonZaros

 

Elves - plaining to summon Zammy

 

You - spying within Zammy forces to stop this happening

 

 

 

I'd say allin all when we get there its gonna to be an AMAZING quest that will probably result in us receiving godly power (like zammy did when he killed Zaros) so perhaps a way Jagex have devised to give summoning but not make it widely availble.

 

 

 

I mean a quest of that proportions would no doubt require ATLEAST 70+ in every stat probably closer to 80 or 90 in most, not to mention a huge list of required quests, including alot of hard ones.

 

 

 

NB This is heavily specualted, but I've held this idea for a long time and each of these quests with there little glimmers of information seems to add weight to the probability of this idea being close to truth

[/hide]

 

Hasn't all known Zaros Mahjarrat already headed north? Persosnally, I think the 8 would be some people we already helped in other quests like Cyrisus, or the Sir Tiffy. Maybe even a slayer master.

 

 

 

Out of the 8, 2 return could mean that only 2 we seen to return home, that doesn't mean they all died. That gives room for 2 npcs to survive and us to live but not be known. The only warrior we know of is Cyrisus, and either Vanaka or Duradel could be the slayer. Our out fit, described by the gnome, doesn't look fit for a warrior or slayer, which is why I went to npcs seen returning home and instead of us and a npc.

 

 

 

They all head north "for the fight" using reference from various quests.

 

 

 

Itis possible good guys go north, Iwas thinking much along your lines.

 

 

 

But I think the 8 Zaros mahjarrat are more likely as they hold the biggest grudge agaisnt zammy and the other betraying mahjarrat. Plsu we know for sure atleast 6 of them are/have headed north from doing thier quests

[Theoknight2]

Mahjarrat made. That means that they are making something. Now who do we know in the north that is building something? The penguins. Now do we know the god penguins follow? No. They could be Mahjarrat under a curse, or just with zaros from the beginning. This seems pretty far-fetched, but then again, this is Jagex.

[Sy_Accursed]

Mahjarrat made. That means that they are making something. Now who do we know in the north that is building something? The penguins. Now do we know the god penguins follow? No. They could be Mahjarrat under a curse, or just with zaros from the beginning. This seems pretty far-fetched, but then again, this is Jagex.

 

 

 

Where are you getting 'Mahjarrat made' from?

[lewagold2]

Mahjarrat made. That means that they are making something. Now who do we know in the north that is building something? The penguins. Now do we know the god penguins follow? No. They could be Mahjarrat under a curse, or just with zaros from the beginning. This seems pretty far-fetched, but then again, this is Jagex.

 

 

 

Where are you getting 'Mahjarrat made' from?

 

 

 

That one quote... forgot what it said...

 

 

 

My theory: You dress up in those robes, which are evil and have the autum orange color on it, and ally with the monks (brothers) who aren't actually evil, (as said by one of 'em) to fight something...? Whatever... it's gonna be a HUGE quest anyway...

[jackal_55]

it sounds very interesting, i hope we get to be the slayer, slayer is my favorite skill, got it to level 72 recently. :D

 

but for some reason i have a feeling that theres going to be a mahjarrat in the mix of the good guys, i mean, they cant all want to destroy the world, right?

 

but im just speculating.