Tipitchat Declines.......

[SanFranciscoGiants]

Sorry, but tipit chat sucks.

[Master_Smither]

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[jemathonical]

I do I like to see opions of people on stuff.

 

 

 

But if some people viewed twice it's still not even half the people post.

 

 

 

Why read and not post......

 

 

 

Well, many people have already said their opinions. And there isn't much more conversation being popped out. :wink:

[Master_Smither]

Ya not many people post anymore do they :cry:

[swordwindtrtrtrt]

Probably because on Tipitchat the average I.Q. is 75 points lower than the average Scaper', not higher. Whenever I go on there all thats being discussed is waffles or something else moronic.

[Master_Smither]

Wow did you take that out of someone's siggy pssh.......

 

 

 

We are joking around mianly if u read shadow's story thats the highlight of the day......

[davidium]

yea ill wager the average combat lvl in tipitchat is around 70 and the average age around 13? (not saying that all low lvls are young and immature though) most of them keep spamming nonsensical stuff which has NO LINK at all to the topic being discussed resulting in spam wars. for example all of a sudden this guy says "i want jam i miss my jam...im going to cry cause there is no more jam" (i really saw someone typing that)

 

 

 

and many of them are pretty stuck up arrogant ppl as well. there was once this guy (player A) who asked how much it was to repair a barrow set and player B said 340k. knowing that this was wrong i simply said "no i think its 330k". and i get some vulgarities thrown at me, he says that i am a noob and that toolkit says its 340k. like wth? im trying to be helpful and nice here but he comes in thinking that everything he says is right...and when i checked him up in the highscores later NONE of his levels showed up...i doubt he even owns a barrow set or is a member for that matter.

 

 

 

the only reason why ill join tipitchat is to get rid of the boredom when im training range at ankous since ill only be able to get membership during the coming november school holidays.

[Master_Smither]

It's seriously not immature at all realy.

 

 

 

It's the spam and our topic are a little wild.

 

 

 

But mainly i think it's summer's over.....

[Michael]

The lack of any form of intellectual conversation keeps me away

[The Observer]

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#-o :wall: :notalk: :x

 

 

 

^^ The only thing I can say to describe it...

[RoswellCrash]

I can't believe we are still discussing this, I could tell from the start it was going to be a mess, you only have to look at the decline of the forums over the last 8 months.

 

 

 

I love tip.it and refuse to use other sites, but after general P2p went sour, the idea of this General Discussion came alone and to be honest it hasn't really helped.

 

 

 

I remember when General P2P was great you had people like Leesters posting great topics and slowly people like him have faded to no more then a memory.

[Master_Smither]

Ya our conversations of that of a 2 year old but we have fun

 

 

 

Ya the spam is pretty outragious :wall:

 

 

 

But i wouldn't have predicited it to be as bad as it is with the constant everyday spam and such. I know it'd get less popular but cmon the spam is just plain stupid.

 

 

 

Take time and look at the pictures of the spam plz :)

[Lacrosse_fan]

Wanna know why no ones in there?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that's why.

[meb]

The lack of any form of intellectual conversation keeps me away

 

 

 

But I see you on our chat every day... Don't contradict yourself :P .

[WingedFish]

Yeah... I leave the chat whenever that Shadow guy shows up... The only thing worse than seeing at least five lines per page in the chatbox written by the same person, is the spam content in it, and the large amount of people that encourage him to come back and do more.

[Lacrosse_fan]

Yeah... I leave the chat whenever that Shadow guy shows up... The only thing worse than seeing at least five lines per page in the chatbox written by the same person, is the spam content in it, and the large amount of people that encourage him to come back and do more.

And don't forget him constantly saying 'moo' and talking about his moderator powers.

[Jokensu]

I still enjoy tipitchat. It certainly helps pass the time while cutting thousands upon thousands of willows.

[FooK-A-Ji]

Yeah... I leave the chat whenever that Shadow guy shows up... The only thing worse than seeing at least five lines per page in the chatbox written by the same person, is the spam content in it, and the large amount of people that encourage him to come back and do more.

And don't forget him constantly saying 'moo' and talking about his moderator powers.

 

 

 

Seems like I'm not the only one with that opinion after all.

 

 

 

The ones encouraging , would most likely be the brownnosers ..

 

 

 

Today there have been numerous ppl stating on tipitchat, that they actually leave when the said person logs on.

 

 

 

Now if said person pulled his head out of his rear, maybe he'd see how very little popular said person actually is, and act accordingly, instead of acting a bigheaded fool.

 

 

 

And "we're just having fun" is pretty much beyond lame, by now.

[FooK-A-Ji]

I do I like to see opions of people on stuff.

 

 

 

But if some people viewed twice it's still not even half the people post.

 

 

 

Why read and not post......

 

 

 

Not all feel an obsessive need to be seen and heard all the time.

 

I read tons of other forums, but this is the only one I post on i.e.

[IMshadow7]

Given the amount of posts related to myself (Shadow7), I think it's worthwhile that i give a response.

 

 

 

First, someone mentioned me constantly talking about my mod powers. I do not constantly talk about my mod powers, though the topic does come up frequently, so if you happen to pop in at the right times, you might see conversations about them. I do not voluntarily talk about my mod powers. I prefer that people simply read them off of the main page, which has a pretty good description of it and does not say anything that isn't supposed to be said, since Jagex is the one who posted it. That being said, if someone DOES ask about my mod powers, I do feel that I should give them an answer as to what my mod powers are. To answer it now, mod powers are basically just the power to mute; that's about it. Most of the other questions I get are about clarifications as to what is breaking the rules, when they should report, etc. I think these are very important questions to answer when they are asked, because the person is (probably) trying to stay within the rules with what they do and simply wants help in doing so.

 

 

 

Second, understand that I have played this game for a very long time. I also have a large deal of experience with almost every skill, quest, and activity in the game (not every one, but most). This means that I'm capable of giving advice to people who are in these situations. As a result, when someone asks for advice or brings up the topic of some activity in Runescape, I usually have some advice for them to perform more effectively. People will whine about this, but they'll whine about it more when they realize that they got half the experience or money that they could have been getting just because they didn't know a simple trick that would help them. Of course, some people tend to be selfish; "If the conversation isn't about me, it shouldn't be happening." Of course, these same people have a remarkably different tune when they have a question that they want answered, and there are specific people in the chat I could point to as to this. Everyone who has an honest question deserves an honest answer if someone has an answer.

 

 

 

This leads to another problem I have seen. When it comes to advice or other topics (such as politics, for example), you'll often find that people have different opinions. For most people, this shouldn't be a surprise. The problem is, some people are unable to distinguish between a disagreement and a flame war. If two people have a different opinion, that doesn't mean that the other person is a low-life scumbag, but at the same time that doesn't mean that he's right. If two people have different opinions on some matter, they SHOULD state those opinions and they should give reasons for those opinions. It's only in these situations that other people who don't know the "right" answer can come to a conclusion based on the reasoning they hear. If you don't state your opinions and reasons for them, you're doing a dis-service to everyone else who may be interested, including yourself and the person who disagrees with you, as these people will then never get a chance to hear both sides and thus are unable to come to a well-informed conclusion. At the end of the day, everyone is not likely to agree, but at least they've had enough information to come to their decision.

 

 

 

On another note, I've heard a lot of people complain about my "ego". I make ego jokes because of the fact that people seem to think that I have an ego. For example, I'll say things such as "I am the all-knowing shadow" or "I look down on people." These are not things that are true; they are meant to be satirical, but it appears that some people think they are true. Of course, as I said, i DO have a lot of experience in Runescape. I also talk to a lot of good players in the game who often have tricks of their own. Combining these things, I tend to have rather well-informed opinions of things within Runescape, though as I said before, I'll still listen to other people's reasoning and evaluate that against my current opinion. Anyway, as a result of this, I tend to have a lot of confidence in the conclusions I come to. Do not confuse "ego" and "confidence". "Confidence" comes from believing in yourself because you're well-prepared. "Ego" comes from blind faith in yourself just because you're you and because you can never be wrong. As I said, I'm confident because I know a lot about the game; that does not mean that I'm never wrong (any statements saying I'm never wrong, such as Shadow's First Law, are simply satirical for fun).

 

 

 

I've also heard a lot of people complain about my "goofiness", specfically the mooing. You will have a chance to understand where the mooing specifically comes from in time; I'd rather not elaborate at this time. For now, just consider it like a catch phrase. As for the goofiness, I can be serious when serious situations are needed, but being all serious all the time is boring. It's no fun. As I've asked people before, as a player-mod, would you prefer me to be a stuck-up mod who constantly whacks people with the mod stick, tells them to behave, and tries to get people banned for stupid reasons; or would you rather me be a mod who enforces the rules when a REAL problem emerges only? As I've said before, I feel you should only report a person if what they're doing merits them being banned, because the report could get them banned. It's not about whether you're "technically" breaking the rules; it's about whether or not you're doing something that can do serious harm to other players. The ban-all mentality of mods is something that I hear players complain about all the time (a false perception, in my opinion, but a perception nonetheless), but when you see a mod who DOESN'T do that, a lot of people's immediate reaction is to complain that he's not serious enough. You're talking about of both sides of your mouth.

 

 

 

On a similar note, as you may notice, my levels are fairly high in comparison to the average player. Keep in mind that there are many people higher than me, but most people would consider me "high level". This comes from having played for a long time (starting near the time that Falador came out), and it also comes from being an efficient player, incase you're wondering (this ties back to the idea of gathering information and coming to a conclusion based on it). Of course, I also do very little other than skill and do quests, so that contributes to it a lot, as well. Anyway, would you rather me be a stuck-up high level who's too good to talk or give advice to normal players, or would you rather me be a high level who actually talks and tries to help normal players? I hear people complain about the high levels who never talk to anyone, never help, and so forth; I complain about those people as well. However, I see many people who, now that they see a high level who ISN'T a stuck-up snob, they don't like that either. Once again, you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

 

 

 

 

 

I never planned on making a post on this, as I figured most people would figure it out on their own (and maybe most people do; the people I'm hearing might just be a vocal minority). However, since it appears that most people did not realize at least some of these things, I felt it was worth explaining.

[swordwindtrtrtrt]

Given the amount of posts related to myself (Shadow7), I think it's worthwhile that i give a response.

 

 

 

First, someone mentioned me constantly talking about my mod powers. I do not constantly talk about my mod powers, though the topic does come up frequently, so if you happen to pop in at the right times, you might see conversations about them. I do not voluntarily talk about my mod powers. I prefer that people simply read them off of the main page, which has a pretty good description of it and does not say anything that isn't supposed to be said, since Jagex is the one who posted it. That being said, if someone DOES ask about my mod powers, I do feel that I should give them an answer as to what my mod powers are. To answer it now, mod powers are basically just the power to mute; that's about it. Most of the other questions I get are about clarifications as to what is breaking the rules, when they should report, etc. I think these are very important questions to answer when they are asked, because the person is (probably) trying to stay within the rules with what they do and simply wants help in doing so.

 

 

 

Second, understand that I have played this game for a very long time. I also have a large deal of experience with almost every skill, quest, and activity in the game (not every one, but most). This means that I'm capable of giving advice to people who are in these situations. As a result, when someone asks for advice or brings up the topic of some activity in Runescape, I usually have some advice for them to perform more effectively. People will whine about this, but they'll whine about it more when they realize that they got half the experience or money that they could have been getting just because they didn't know a simple trick that would help them. Of course, some people tend to be selfish; "If the conversation isn't about me, it shouldn't be happening." Of course, these same people have a remarkably different tune when they have a question that they want answered, and there are specific people in the chat I could point to as to this. Everyone who has an honest question deserves an honest answer if someone has an answer.

 

 

 

This leads to another problem I have seen. When it comes to advice or other topics (such as politics, for example), you'll often find that people have different opinions. For most people, this shouldn't be a surprise. The problem is, some people are unable to distinguish between a disagreement and a flame war. If two people have a different opinion, that doesn't mean that the other person is a low-life scumbag, but at the same time that doesn't mean that he's right. If two people have different opinions on some matter, they SHOULD state those opinions and they should give reasons for those opinions. It's only in these situations that other people who don't know the "right" answer can come to a conclusion based on the reasoning they hear. If you don't state your opinions and reasons for them, you're doing a dis-service to everyone else who may be interested, including yourself and the person who disagrees with you, as these people will then never get a chance to hear both sides and thus are unable to come to a well-informed conclusion. At the end of the day, everyone is not likely to agree, but at least they've had enough information to come to their decision.

 

 

 

On another note, I've heard a lot of people complain about my "ego". I make ego jokes because of the fact that people seem to think that I have an ego. For example, I'll say things such as "I am the all-knowing shadow" or "I look down on people." These are not things that are true; they are meant to be satirical, but it appears that some people think they are true. Of course, as I said, i DO have a lot of experience in Runescape. I also talk to a lot of good players in the game who often have tricks of their own. Combining these things, I tend to have rather well-informed opinions of things within Runescape, though as I said before, I'll still listen to other people's reasoning and evaluate that against my current opinion. Anyway, as a result of this, I tend to have a lot of confidence in the conclusions I come to. Do not confuse "ego" and "confidence". "Confidence" comes from believing in yourself because you're well-prepared. "Ego" comes from blind faith in yourself just because you're you and because you can never be wrong. As I said, I'm confident because I know a lot about the game; that does not mean that I'm never wrong (any statements saying I'm never wrong, such as Shadow's First Law, are simply satirical for fun).

 

 

 

I've also heard a lot of people complain about my "goofiness", specfically the mooing. You will have a chance to understand where the mooing specifically comes from in time; I'd rather not elaborate at this time. For now, just consider it like a catch phrase. As for the goofiness, I can be serious when serious situations are needed, but being all serious all the time is boring. It's no fun. As I've asked people before, as a player-mod, would you prefer me to be a stuck-up mod who constantly whacks people with the mod stick, tells them to behave, and tries to get people banned for stupid reasons; or would you rather me be a mod who enforces the rules when a REAL problem emerges only? As I've said before, I feel you should only report a person if what they're doing merits them being banned, because the report could get them banned. It's not about whether you're "technically" breaking the rules; it's about whether or not you're doing something that can do serious harm to other players. The ban-all mentality of mods is something that I hear players complain about all the time (a false perception, in my opinion, but a perception nonetheless), but when you see a mod who DOESN'T do that, a lot of people's immediate reaction is to complain that he's not serious enough. You're talking about of both sides of your mouth.

 

 

 

On a similar note, as you may notice, my levels are fairly high in comparison to the average player. Keep in mind that there are many people higher than me, but most people would consider me "high level". This comes from having played for a long time (starting near the time that Falador came out), and it also comes from being an efficient player, incase you're wondering (this ties back to the idea of gathering information and coming to a conclusion based on it). Of course, I also do very little other than skill and do quests, so that contributes to it a lot, as well. Anyway, would you rather me be a stuck-up high level who's too good to talk or give advice to normal players, or would you rather me be a high level who actually talks and tries to help normal players? I hear people complain about the high levels who never talk to anyone, never help, and so forth; I complain about those people as well. However, I see many people who, now that they see a high level who ISN'T a stuck-up snob, they don't like that either. Once again, you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

 

 

 

 

 

I never planned on making a post on this, as I figured most people would figure it out on their own (and maybe most people do; the people I'm hearing might just be a vocal minority). However, since it appears that most people did not realize at least some of these things, I felt it was worth explaining.

You do the above things in excess though, and thats what makes it annoying. However I agree that there is no reason why you shouldnt give out advice.

[Pan_Nx]

Too much spam, i do like shadows stories, specially the camp one. :lol:

[Mirror]

I might as well step in here too.

 

 

 

I used to go on regularly and just have a fun time in there. Mind you that I am retired while doing this so I log into Runescape for this chat. So honestly when other people are doing other skills and talking on the side, all I do is basically use that chat. Just thought I would get that out.

 

 

 

It seems that it is "declining" but some people just like to be random. I try to have fun it what I do, and I try to have conversations of whatever it is. Sometimes they can be serious debates *rarely* but there also times where you want to bang your head against the desk. If you dont like it, dont go in there and you dont even need to post here. If you have a chat that you like, good for you. We all need to just find our place and if it is with one chat or the other, the job gets done.

 

 

 

Also I would like to point out that the comment about the IQ being 75 points below the average scaper. I am most definitely only 74 points lower... \

[ayden7794]

Shadow... writeing and entire page about how your not really doing anything wrong just supports the fact even more. Its very annoying with your name all over the chat, are you not doing anything in the game? Your advice is preety helpful and storys amusing but why the random "moo" when you have nothing to say? Also the annoying "we should take away blank for f2p" and "all below total lvl2000 are newbs" is totaly unnecesary and rude. Well I have nothing more to say.

[IMshadow7]

Shadow... writeing and entire page about how your not really doing anything wrong just supports the fact even more.

 

It's not something I was planning on doing, but some many people seemed to not realize it that I pretty much was forced to do so.

 

 

 

Also the annoying "we should take away blank for f2p" and "all below total lvl2000 are newbs" is totaly unnecesary and rude. Well I have nothing more to say.

 

Both of these things were jokes. I'm quite serious when I say that f2p doesn't DESERVE more things, but the taking away stuff thing was simply hyperbole of that as a joke. The lvl 2000 newb thing was just a joke related to the f2p thing as I knew it was impossible for any f2p player to reach.