gdawg1512 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 :D I was going to name this topic "Ranged, is it still worth it" or "Ranged the wildy's underdog" but I decided this name would get you're attention better and probaly the attention of the f-mods, but whatever. I've noticed that ranged seems to be the underdog in the wildy right now, what with the God-Sword updates, dds, etc. Jagex has taken some pretty big strides to making ranged equal with the other combat skills , prayer, enhanced crossbows, etc, but it seems that the other skills just seem to do more. :wall: Ranged is also a bit overwhelemed in the duel arena unless you have 4 m to buy a dbow you're going to get messed up by a dds pure who only needed 30k. Ranged is slower to level, and its benefits are alot less aparent so why do we always have to get owned !?!? Lolz... :cry: *sniffle* Whining aside, my main gripe with ranged is its representation in f2p. I was one of the few ranged pures in f2p with 81 ranged and it always frustrated me to hit only 13 while my mele based upon cuold hit 20's with his scimitar. Eventually I gave up on ranged.... It seems that ranged is the only class forced to hybridize to get kills, in f2p at least. In my opinion, ranged should recieve ranged potions in f2p. And please, please some kind of update in members . Mage is a little bit under developed as well. What do you guys think? Also I think a new combat skill would be gr8!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freesia Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Ranged IS supposed to get owned by melee. Strangely with WotLK so near, I wished I could delay it a bit to push through that last TBC content in MH/BT :'(. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj926 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Ranged has gotten fantastic updates... you are very wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlordjl Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Quite frankly, Magic is the class that is obsolete right now. Ranged is borderline overpowered, due to the crossbows. With that said, the entire triangle is discombobulated. When you can hit 45s like a knife through butter, PvP becomes absurd. And it's entirely possible to hit that high with frequency with a Godsword or Rune Bolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22woger22 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Quite frankly, Magic is the class that is obsolete right now. Ranged is borderline overpowered, due to the crossbows. With that said, the entire triangle is discombobulated. When you can hit 45s like a knife through butter, PvP becomes absurd. And it's entirely possible to hit that high with frequency with a Godsword or Rune Bolts. Quoted for truth. Magic has very versatile uses outside of combat, most of all teleporting, high alching, etc, however weak magic armour with little defence bonuses, amalgamated with the high cost per rune for higher level spells and the fact that you can't "re-use" spells/runes means that magic is rather belittled while in combat, although it is very useful for back-up (teleblock, entangle) to rangers and meleers (for the wilderness). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgnslyer_15 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Ranged IS supposed to get owned by melee.but if you're a good enough ranger you own melees lol RSN: drgnslyer15 15 skills 90+ - 10 skills 99 - 200m+ total exp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Crossbows, D bow both hit massive 50+ hits Magic max is 30 so whats your points Also: Melee ownz Range Mage ownz Melee Range ownz Mage Thats how it works Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yandn94 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 i am not going to PK a lot, but i think that magic is strongest. the ancient magic is really annoying. i simply hate ancient magic because of what ice spells does to warriors. that why many people wants to be wizards. that helped me to choose improving range level. and i think, too, that range should be improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antony Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 With a cross bow and dragon enchanted arows, or onyx (not probable) arrows you can own pretty much everyone. :::Antony 7::: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisc6 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 ancient magics mean magic is overpowered.godsword now means melees overpowered.xbow and dark bow update means range is over powered. id go with magics the one which is overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanweb Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 What the hell? Melee is supposed to be better than range. If anything ranged is extremely overpowered, have you seen a ranged tanker fighting with dragon bolts? Obviously not. The combat skill that is underpowered is mage, on it's own you will never kill another pker, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenw Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 If you are talking about PURELY just 1 combat style vs another, Magic is the weakest. Why? 1. If you do not have teleblock, half the wildy becomes teleport spree (up lvl 30, and if you time it properly, you can glory tele very easily below 30 wildy) 2. If you do have Teleblock, you have to carry too many runes (you have to carry Law, Chaos, Death, Nature, Earth and Water for TB and Entangle, thats 6 inv spaces down already) so you are at a distinct disadvantage when going one on one. And we are not even including the runes for the god spells here 3. Their max hit is 30, no matter what you do (unless you want to count vengeance). 4. It is also the only skill that can get owned (literally) by itself, because a high mage grants a higher mage defence. Mage is perfect for non-wildy combat, because the variety of spells you can use like teleport, etc. However the wildy is underpowered compared to the other 2. 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quorra Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 unless you have 4 m to buy a dbow you're going to get messed up by a dds pure who only needed 30k. d bows are 3-3.2m and dds are 50k... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHasero Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Also its how u take it on tacnicly (dont mind the gramma im so worse at english) If you have a good plan i think range or mage can come out very handly. What most rangers and magers do. they go stand on a place with no hills or no safe spots then theit goign to fight melee peeps. Or theirgonna camp in a cornor and when somebody i coming they have no time or chance to leave. "Why should i fear Death!?""I know the guy !"Love gives you courage, being loved gives you strength Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phata_elise Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 ranged got some massive updates a couple of months age and is not underpowered. And if anything mage is underpowered at the moment. Even melee can easily bet them, when they shouldn't stand a chance. However, one other thing you have to remember is that melee is by far the most popular class in RS. So, the chances are that will will encounter many melee players in wildy and ranged has a natural disadvantage towards them. Also, since mage is so weak atm, not many wizards are pking, giving little targets to rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 The whole whine of this thread is founded on a bad source. You say range is underpowered as melee beats it easily. The combat triangle is melee > range > mage > melee As pointed out before melee IS SUPPOSED to own range And ranged is one of the highest hitting combat types available The only way to get even close to ranged max hits is with dharoks on like 1 hp or with godsword and even then ur only really rivalling the rune c-bow and not the d bow. Mage is the most underpowered one hits wise and versatility wise. Most people think its wrong, but they are basing it on pking. And in pking many wear d-hide with melee weps to fight mages, whihc means it is not a true representation of mage vs melee. Its mage vs unboosted melee with range armour to deflect magic Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiliukaZ Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Don't say that- mage is more under powered.It should own melee but it owns it with D'hides + dd(s). ALso mage has to hybrid to get kills. TO be honset Range armour SHOULD lower Melee bonuses my at least ~ -8. In f2p It wouldn't hurt anyone except hiders...And range/2hers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoswellCrash Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Why is there always one... Magic is not obsolete and nor is Ranged you morons. Magic is far from obsolete in the wilderness, your KO'ed against an Ancient, Ranged is far from obsolete go watch the videos on youtube... Yes when you look at it as a melee against ranged it will get owned duh, and same when you look at rangers against mage.. Magic is one of the best Ice Barrage kicks [wagon] against most stuff. All I can say is noob? Don't say that- Nage is more under powered.It should own melee but it owns it with D'hides + dd(s). ALso mage has to hybrid to get kills. TO be honset Range armour SHOULD lower Melee bonuses my at least ~ -8. In f2p It wouldn't hurt anyone except hiders...And range/2hers. Nage "Mage" don't get owned by D'hides + dd(s) if you have barrage your still getting frozen, so shut up.. Melee has to hybrid to Str,Att,Defence?? the fact that your saying you need D'hides... emm 70 ranged am I correct?? Good Mages own in wildy fact. Also shut up with the green it is considered spam. - Twitter | RuneScape FB Group | My PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Link Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 unless you have 4 m to buy a dbow you're going to get messed up by a dds pure who only needed 30k. d bows are 3-3.2m and dds are 50k... The idea is that a Dark Bow costs many times more than a dds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beest1942 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Why is there always one... Magic is not obsolete and nor is Ranged you morons. Magic is far from obsolete in the wilderness, your KO'ed against an Ancient, Ranged is far from obsolete go watch the videos on youtube... Yes when you look at it as a melee against ranged it will get owned duh, and same when you look at rangers against mage.. Magic is one of the best Ice Barrage kicks [wagon] against most stuff. All I can say is noob? Don't say that- Nage is more under powered.It should own melee but it owns it with D'hides + dd(s). ALso mage has to hybrid to get kills. TO be honset Range armour SHOULD lower Melee bonuses my at least ~ -8. In f2p It wouldn't hurt anyone except hiders...And range/2hers. Nage "Mage" don't get owned by D'hides + dd(s) if you have barrage your still getting frozen, so shut up.. Melee has to hybrid to Str,Att,Defence?? the fact that your saying you need D'hides... emm 70 ranged am I correct?? Good Mages own in wildy fact. Also shut up with the green it is considered spam. Thank you! QFT. Why do we bake cookies, but cook bacon? 99/99/80+ looking for monster hunting groupRS07: mb nb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbrideau Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Quite frankly, Magic is the class that is obsolete right now. Ranged is borderline overpowered, due to the crossbows. With that said, the entire triangle is discombobulated. When you can hit 45s like a knife through butter, PvP becomes absurd. And it's entirely possible to hit that high with frequency with a Godsword or Rune Bolts. Quoted for truth. Magic has very versatile uses outside of combat, most of all teleporting, high alching, etc, however weak magic armour with little defence bonuses, amalgamated with the high cost per rune for higher level spells and the fact that you can't "re-use" spells/runes means that magic is rather belittled while in combat, although it is very useful for back-up (teleblock, entangle) to rangers and meleers (for the wilderness). +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_Mercy Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Magic can hit hard as it is, it has gotten over 10 types of magic armor and has gotten magic mini-games. Over 10 different types of runes, 5-7 staves, a "battle-ring" and even a barrows set. So don't say mage is obselete or whatever, it just didn't receive a new update yet for it has many compared to range You are not alone, Our Father, God will always be with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jys Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 In terms of Pokemon: Melee is Uber. Ranged is Over Used. And Magic is Neverused... Sorry, I just HAD to do a pokemon reference there, =p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axeraider194 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Stop basing what is over/underpowered off what ko's in level 1 wilderness. Once you do that, everything is pretty much equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goobore Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 You missed the biggest whine of all... Pure Rangers can only reach combat level 110 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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