Where Have All the Generous People Gone too?

[Andrew_s_2]

I've been noticing for a long time, that people seem to keep getting more selfish. Maybe im just running into the bad ones, but this is getting quite aggrivating(sp).

 

 

 

Let me explain with a experience i had today.

 

 

 

I was killing green drags for d hides and bones, when one dropped a clue scroll.I decided to take a break and do it, I did the first 2 clues in it than I needed blue d hide body and blue d hide vamps. Well I didn't have either and i didn't have d hide. So I was going to go kill the blue drag in heros guild for 4 hides.

 

 

 

I head down there and there are 2 people there, both in the lvl 80's, killing the drag. So instead of stealing the drag for 4 kills and being selfish I asked them If i could have 4 hides. Here's the Convo;

 

 

 

Me: Could you guys spare 4 d hide please? I need for a clue scroll.

 

lvl87:*runs out of gate and behind me* i'll sell you some.

 

lvl82: what lvl clue?

 

Me: It's a lvl 3 clue, and why can't you just spare 4 hides? It's not like im asking for something you can;t just get back in 4 kills...

 

87: ill take your black d hide body and give ya 12 blue d hides.

 

Me: I only need 4, and is it to much to ask for just 4?

 

87:noob*runs back into cage*

 

Me:Seriously? you guys are so selfish you can't just give 4 hides away?

 

87: go away begging noob.

 

Me: -.-

 

 

 

 

 

So i go in and instead of just killing the drag 4 times, I attack the drag as soon as it spawns and get it, and kill it till my bag is full of just d hides(i buried the bones). Of course this got them angry and i told them this could've been prevented if they just spared 4 hides, and instead lost 28 kills.

 

 

 

Maybe it's just me but way back when i started Rs if you asked for simple things, people wouldn't mind helping you out. Now it just seems like if you want anything done it's going to cost you.

 

 

 

What do you think? Have you experienced the same thing?

 

 

 

Discuss.

[Lemeja]

It is their decision to give it to you...and taking 24 more kills than you needed isn't very generous either :roll:.

 

 

 

A better thing to ask was if they would let you have 4 kills.

[Andrew_s_2]

I know that, but it's not like i was asking for anything big. I only asked so i wouldn't have to take the drag away from them....tryin to be nice.

[berbatovsky]

If i'm at the blue dragon in taverly I'm not giving anyone my hides, because the dragon is so crowded ALL DAY LONG, so its hard to get 14 kills without having to compete/share with at least 1 other person. Getting a free dragon can take half an hour.

 

 

 

Also because people(you didn't know) didn't give you something, they aren't generous? Generosity is an odd thing to quantify in Runescape because any character can do anything, we are all equal when we create an account. You wanted 4 hides quickly so you could do a clue, you were looking to get your clue done as quickly as you could so you requested other peoples stuff and when they denied it to you, you acted petulantly.

 

 

 

Question: Would you of shared the reward(regardless of value) for the clue if one of them had helped you? Did you consider this at the time?

[Master_Smither]

Why didn't you just kill 4 in the first place :?

 

 

 

These people are just money hogs don't let them get to you. 4 d hide is like 5k or so they are just pathetic people.

[Mirror]

Personally, I am retired from the game. Ok lame joke, but killing the extra 24 was really not necessary.

[Andrew_s_2]

If i'm at the blue dragon in taverly I'm not giving anyone my hides, because the dragon is so crowded ALL DAY LONG, so its hard to get 14 kills without having to compete/share with at least 1 other person. Getting a free dragon can take half an hour.

 

 

 

Also because people(you didn't know) didn't give you something, they aren't generous? Generosity is an odd thing to quantify in Runescape because any character can do anything, we are all equal when we create an account. You wanted 4 hides quickly so you could do a clue, you were looking to get your clue done as quickly as you could so you requested other peoples stuff and when they denied it to you, you acted petulantly.

 

 

 

Question: Would you of shared the reward(regardless of value) for the clue if one of them had helped you? Did you consider this at the time?

 

 

 

4 d hides isn't enough to share the award, i have shared my rewards before, when i was new to treasure trails. My friend literally helped me step to step and got me the items i needed to do it. I didn't get anything special but i gave him more than half the reward.

 

 

 

i only acted 'petulantly' because...hmm how should i phrase this.... Well i explained this all in my first post -.-.

[db300]

your mad that he isn't giving you free stuff? i know it's not much but still... :-k

[onauric]

You could have just bought the body and vambs or hides. Plus heros guild isn't the only place where you can find blue dragons. I have never killed the blue dragon there but I can guess how time consuming it is to get full inv there with just one dragon and couple other players competing with you, so I have no wonders why they didn't give the hides.

 

 

 

You shouldn't expect other people to give you stuff for free that they have earned fair and square. Even if it wouldn't be that much. If you expect that then you could just consider yourself selfish.

[berbatovsky]

If i'm at the blue dragon in taverly I'm not giving anyone my hides, because the dragon is so crowded ALL DAY LONG, so its hard to get 14 kills without having to compete/share with at least 1 other person. Getting a free dragon can take half an hour.

 

 

 

Also because people(you didn't know) didn't give you something, they aren't generous? Generosity is an odd thing to quantify in Runescape because any character can do anything, we are all equal when we create an account. You wanted 4 hides quickly so you could do a clue, you were looking to get your clue done as quickly as you could so you requested other peoples stuff and when they denied it to you, you acted petulantly.

 

 

 

Question: Would you of shared the reward(regardless of value) for the clue if one of them had helped you? Did you consider this at the time?

 

 

 

4 d hides isn't enough to share the award, i have shared my rewards before, when i was new to treasure trails. My friend literally helped me step to step and got me the items i needed to do it. I didn't get anything special but i gave him more than half the reward.

 

 

 

i only acted 'petulantly' because...hmm how should i phrase this.... Well i explained this all in my first post -.-.

 

 

 

You acted petulantly because you didn't get what you wanted, I know. Thats pretty much the definition of acting petulantly. Personally i would have let you kill the dragon 4 times, but i don't think its ungenerous(i don't know if this is a word) that people didn't give you stuff for free, after all 'gathering' those hides required at least one of: runes/arrows/armour/weapon/food which means they are using their stuff to help you, when you are offering nothing in exchange. I really don't think thats unreasonable.

[Andrew_s_2]

Personally, I am retired from the game. Ok lame joke, but killing the extra 24 was really not necessary.

 

 

 

I know, i'll admit that was mean, but i was trying to make a point. Instead of having to kill the drag 4 times, they could hv spared 4 hides and gotten 4 kills.

[OldJoe]

1: I think that you just should have taken and killed four, after you got denied.

 

 

 

2: Yes, as you said: People used to less self-centerd in this game. But i have always (almost always) been helping out players if they have question or if they need an item. But if they come begging for something, then i just shut up.

 

I think the mentality of people who have joined RS in the last 2 years is different from the ones joining earlier. Say, since 2005 and onwards it has gotten much more focused on skilling/xp/levels/wealth. Before it was mostly played for fun and you'd have a laugh with your friends while slaying some giants or cooking those fishies.

 

Another reason must be that there's so many people that aren't mature. Younger people tend to give a helping hand less times than someone who's 20+.

 

 

 

But since i'm "old-school" in RS, i still have some of the ways i used to do things in RSC, one of those is being helpful towards other players.

[Nenga]

The people who train under the heros guild are usually the jerks. Most people are not like that unless you ask it over and over. Though you should have taken them into consideration. Maybe they were killing the dragons for hides? You should think of them too.

[ooberman]

You could have offered to buy the hides off them.

 

 

 

oober

[ChickyBee32]

You could have offered to buy the hides off them.

 

 

 

oober

 

 

 

+1

 

 

 

I don't think the 4 killing dragons were the ones being selfish

[leebrave]

Its the Beggars Virus from the Free worlds leaking through I believe

[runescapeloser22]

You were being more selfish then them :roll:

 

Why couldn't you just kill four dragons? Are you seriously that lazy? And getting the extra 24 kills is being a lot more selfish then them.

[ugafan_2009]

Did you really expect them to give you five minutes of their time instead of you spending five minutes yourself killing the dragon?

 

 

 

You basically begged and were denied, now you're complaining about no generous people.

 

 

 

I mean, I'm all for helping others, but I wouldn't say they were being selfish at all.

[Soma2035]

You were being more selfish then them :roll:

 

Why couldn't you just kill four dragons? Are you seriously that lazy? And getting the extra 24 kills is being a lot more selfish then them.

 

 

 

If I'm going to kill dragons, I'd kill until I got as much out of them as possible too.

 

 

 

If they'd rather you compete with them for kills, then take the kills. More often than not clues give you nothing. So either make it up by doing them quickly, or if that's not possible, take a few extra minutes and make some cash while doing the clue.

 

 

 

That seems perfectly reasonable. I've given away d'hides before many times. It's not THAT hard to get kills at taverly or hero's, so giving away 1-4 hides isn't that big of a deal.

[berbatovsky]

You were being more selfish then them :roll:

 

Why couldn't you just kill four dragons? Are you seriously that lazy? And getting the extra 24 kills is being a lot more selfish then them.

 

 

 

If I'm going to kill dragons, I'd kill until I got as much out of them as possible too.

 

 

 

If they'd rather you compete with them for kills, then take the kills. More often than not clues give you nothing. So either make it up by doing them quickly, or if that's not possible, take a few extra minutes and make some cash while doing the clue.

 

 

 

That seems perfectly reasonable. I've given away d'hides before many times. It's not THAT hard to get kills at taverly or hero's, so giving away 1-4 hides isn't that big of a deal.

 

 

 

Its not hard to get the hides, but it takes time.Time which the OP didn't have, so he asked for someone else to sacrifice their time for him/her. Again not an unreasonable denial. Just because someone wants to do something quickly doesn't mean your an arsehole for refusing them.

[Stoop111]

I'm still here :wink: Just catch me in the right mood.

[sithlord_man]

They've turned in to the people we see today...the selfish ones

[meili]

It's your own fault for asking for free stuff. If you had brought gp or something to trade then this wouldn't have happened. :roll: I don't see how you can justify asking for free stuff and complain when people don't give you stuff. You're the one being selfish.

 

 

 

I get people asking me for free stuff all the time. Yesterday some guy asked to buy a prayer pot at barrows. Well, I only had exactly *one* left but I trade it since the guy was desperate (low hps inside the tunnel). That was a sacrifice of my time since I had to run back to get a prayer pot for myself.

 

 

 

Then another person asked me to *give* him a spade. No way! I don't give free stuff unless its a friend.

[everfreefire]

I know that there are still generous people in RS, because I've been on both sides of it (Without begging though)

 

 

 

Assuming it isn't much, and as long as people ask nicely (And in plain English), I will give them the thing that they ask for. Obviously, there are limits to my gifts, but I do still help.

 

 

 

Also, while training slayer (this happened three times), I ran out of food with about 10 more of the particular creature left (Dust Devils, Spiritual Warrior, Turoth). Each of the three times, another player was kind enough to wither give me a bit of food, or willing to trade some to me for some of the drops I had gotten so far there. Sure, they could have just said "No" and left me to leave with not much left, but they didn't. They sacrificed some of their training time so that I could finish my task without having to leave and come back.

 

 

 

Just because you can't seem to find someone who is generous doesn't mean they don't exist.

[hibiki]

I'm curious, you wanted to get this clue done fast and yet you spent the extra time to get a full inventory of d'hides just to make a point that was rather hippocritical.

 

 

 

by letting them provoke you into doing that, they won.