2 October 2007 - Cutting Edge(ville) + shop improvement

[rocket_flare]

Whoo, awesome update for me :D

 

None of the ruined-markets for me, since I'm F2P...it's all good!

 

If only this happened before I bought 28k waters from shops for 70 magic

 

 

 

Gonna go check out edgy....

[riakk]

Good update sept a few things.

 

Bye bye to the supplies market.

 

I guess the monkfishes getting from 99 fishing and cooking won't be very profitable...

 

 

 

Other than them, very good.

[muggiwhplar]

I do care however they removed Oranges from the shops; there arent any orange trees that can be picked, now how can I get my maple tree payments without getting ripped on forums?

 

 

 

What do you mean there aren't any orange trees that can be picked?

[gg_kk90]

wow there goes bronze arrows for 20 each lol

[everfreefire]

^ I think he means that there are no naturally-growing orange trees anywhere.

 

 

 

I've never been a big fan of using shops, so really I don't know what this update fully does to training...Funny to see what people find htough.

[kdb148]

Grow your own orange tree. Voila! All the oranges you'll ever need. How it was intended to work, no doubt - what's the point of requiring payments for watching your trees if you can just go to a shop and buy them all? Christ, why does everyone whine so much about being required to do a little more work for things?

[gg_kk90]

and omg! of you have 7m you can get to 99 range with 1m bronze arrows or less =P how cheap can 99 range can be now

[ham100000001]

For those of u complaining about pineapples

 

 

 

[Andrew_s_2]

For those of u complaining about pineapples

 

 

 

 

 

 

..Awesome, there is a god =D>

[desel4]

yes! finally buy X

[Paul00]

I'm still unsure about the stock as its making my brain hurt, but Edgy looks excellent, new guards rock.

[Methud]

Awsome Jagex, awsome. :mrgreen:

[hisensei808]

I have never wanted to rant about an update beforehand, but this one has tipped me over the edge. Most of this update, I'm all for. The buy-x is a great idea, as is having a main stock and a player stock (which also sets a precedent for a possible updated bank - the tabs are definitely possible). However, the complete and needless destruction of glass-making and battle staff crafting is very, very annoying.

 

 

 

Previously, making battle staffs was a great way of passing the time. I could level some crafting without having to spend time getting breathed on by dragons, it was fairly fun, training a few different skills at once and got me a profit at the end. Now it's pretty much useless, as getting hold of seaweed and battle staffs are now so slow I'd get bored after getting 5 of them.

 

 

 

I have heard that Baba Yoga only has one in stock at a time which restocks slowy, and there is no way I'm spending my pizzaz points on battle staffs. Not at the incredibly slow rate they arrive, and especially not while I'm still saving for bones to peaches.

 

 

 

It's especially annoying as it's needless. As evidenced by the food shops in the grand tree, it is still possible for shops to work as they used to. So why have they been annoying and stopped battle staffs? There's no reason for it. The only one that I can see is that the decision was made to remove them ages ago before they finished. Since then they've worked out a way of making shops continue on as they did in some cases, and the battle staffs were forgotten about.

 

 

 

The one advantage of this is that seaweed now drops noted when dropped by monsters, which means I now have the space to pick it up.

 

 

 

 

 

Finally someone who feels the same as I!!

 

 

 

I was excited about the shop update... finally a chance to get runes whenI want and how many I want (based on how much money I have). My mates would say, "let's go CW" Then I would have to spend x amount of time getting bloods to play because I didn't have enough for the casts. Problem solved.

 

 

 

My RANT---> Battle staves. Runes don't come cheap. Which is why making battle staves were a life saver. I would buy the staves for a big profit then I was able to buy my bloods. NOW...as stated...I can't do that because it will take longer, much longer, to every gather the battle staves (unless I world hop, but even then I am doing what....competing with other players). Use pizzazz opints?? Are you nuts?!?!? I am saving up to get infinity gear and you want me to use them for battle staves!

 

 

 

I hope Jagex realizes that they have really hurt the "true" players and come up with something for getting battle staves.

 

 

 

In the RS forums, there is a suggestion for a battle stave update, involving players making their own. If you can find it, check out some of the ideas.

[hybrid2hell]

FFS Ty for the amazing update. How much are maple longs at the shop? Methinks F2P has a new alching item?

[jessy87]

ended up buying 10k broad arrows just for the hell of it. today, is a good day kind of.

[llamster]

Too bad that edge now looks like a real, civilized town, I liked it's rough's appearence, which it should have as it is close to wildy. Also is Jagex kidding us? All the towns used to be quite different, but now seers, varrock and edge have the same kind of buildings with the same bricks, only fally has different color bricks, but whey don't they just totally redo all the buildings rather than changing only it's building material's appearence:s

 

 

 

Varrock, Edgeville, and Seer's Village are now a LOT different than they were before. Varrock and Seer's Village are kinda the same, but Edgeville has smaller/darker bricks. Before, there was no difference.

[brainymidget]

oh dang, are gems infinite stock???? I have 1.3k of em right now :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

[Goblin512]

I must say a couple of nice new updates- I mean on my noob accounts first of all it wont be a pain to buy stuff from shops

 

 

 

Anbd finally a major graphical update!

 

 

 

My friend has been on my back for weeks telling me RS's graphics stink- hopefully this'll show him that they continually update it!

[jsboutin2]

Cant wait to try buy "x"....

[doomy]

Just a heads up, the Culinomancer's Chest shops are player stock only.

 

Dang :(

[jsboutin2]

IT's GREAT!!! NICE update from JAGEX!

[Master_Smither]

Great Updates :thumbsup:

[sithlord_man]

Bots got owned although prices are to high its still good to see they can't profit.

 

 

 

Edgevill looking awesome :P

[Iwannabehero]

Nice updates

 

 

 

I just bought 30 k iron arrows at 20gpea :thumbsup:

[46er]

I have never wanted to rant about an update beforehand, but this one has tipped me over the edge. Most of this update, I'm all for. The buy-x is a great idea, as is having a main stock and a player stock (which also sets a precedent for a possible updated bank - the tabs are definitely possible). However, the complete and needless destruction of glass-making and battle staff crafting is very, very annoying.

 

 

 

Previously, making battle staffs was a great way of passing the time. I could level some crafting without having to spend time getting breathed on by dragons, it was fairly fun, training a few different skills at once and got me a profit at the end. Now it's pretty much useless, as getting hold of seaweed and battle staffs are now so slow I'd get bored after getting 5 of them.

 

 

 

I have heard that Baba Yoga only has one in stock at a time which restocks slowy, and there is no way I'm spending my pizzaz points on battle staffs. Not at the incredibly slow rate they arrive, and especially not while I'm still saving for bones to peaches.

 

 

 

It's especially annoying as it's needless. As evidenced by the food shops in the grand tree, it is still possible for shops to work as they used to. So why have they been annoying and stopped battle staffs? There's no reason for it. The only one that I can see is that the decision was made to remove them ages ago before they finished. Since then they've worked out a way of making shops continue on as they did in some cases, and the battle staffs were forgotten about.

 

 

 

The one advantage of this is that seaweed now drops noted when dropped by monsters, which means I now have the space to pick it up.

 

 

 

 

 

Finally someone who feels the same as I!!

 

 

 

I was excited about the shop update... finally a chance to get runes whenI want and how many I want (based on how much money I have). My mates would say, "let's go CW" Then I would have to spend x amount of time getting bloods to play because I didn't have enough for the casts. Problem solved.

 

 

 

My RANT---> Battle staves. Runes don't come cheap. Which is why making battle staves were a life saver. I would buy the staves for a big profit then I was able to buy my bloods. NOW...as stated...I can't do that because it will take longer, much longer, to every gather the battle staves (unless I world hop, but even then I am doing what....competing with other players). Use pizzazz opints?? Are you nuts?!?!? I am saving up to get infinity gear and you want me to use them for battle staves!

 

 

 

I hope Jagex realizes that they have really hurt the "true" players and come up with something for getting battle staves.

 

 

 

In the RS forums, there is a suggestion for a battle stave update, involving players making their own. If you can find it, check out some of the ideas.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Paul

 

Jagex Mod

 

 

 

 

 

02-Oct-2007 15:16:28

 

Last edited on 02-Oct-2007 15:49:21 by Paul

 

Seaweed and battle staff changes explained.

 

 

 

Some people have been asking why we have removed these items from shops and put them elsewhere.

 

 

 

We have removed the battlestaffs and seaweed from shops because they were things which were balanced on having rather limited stocks.

 

 

 

Battlestaffs have a pretty hefty cost mark up once you've added the orbs which was a lot of the reason for making them.

 

 

 

And if you could get unlimited amounts of sand and soda ash the crafting xp rate is actually pretty insane for very little effort.

 

 

 

Fortunately before it was hard for many players to buy these things in volume, so they sort of self balanced, otherwise we'd have actually considered them broken.

 

 

 

Unfortunately if we left these items at limited stocks then as we removed other autobuyer targets such as runes and arrows - these would have been quite an obvious target for bots, the price mark up from shop prices on these objects is actually pretty good,

 

the legitimate people buying these items could quite soon be ranting at us, due to the bots selling out their stock thus that they could buy none.

 

 

 

A premptive strike was clearly needed.

 

 

 

Our aim is to keep these items at limited availability, but to change the ways for getting them to something not autobuyer friendly.

 

Our aim isn't to make these things any harder (or easier) to get overall.

 

 

 

If we've not got these altenative methods quite right, then I'm happy to tweak them

 

 

 

For example I understand that the mage training arena pizzazz cost might be a bit prohibatively high for pracitically buying battlestaffs right now. I am looking into this to see what a sensible cost in pizzazz points would be.

 

I'd like to get people using that area a little more anyway :)

 

 

 

We will also be increasing baba yagas stock levels of battlestaffs, to 20.

 

 

 

Getting seaweed from nets while fishing monkfish is quite good and was originally meant to be considered a bit of an additional reward for completing swansong.

 

Unfortunately it possibly got a bit nerfed when we then released the trade ships, but its still there.

 

 

 

Theres plenty of other less conveniently located spawns for the lower levels too.

 

I'll certainly be thinking of other ways for players to get seaweed too.