I used to love getting arrows from mossying and selling them for a decent stipend. But now, I see that if I want to sell them, they'll only take my irons for free and my steels for the price of irons. I was like, "WHAT?!"

 

 

 

The infinite arrows that are only slightly more expensive than normal don't help either. No one's buying from the player table, so I come in with say, 300 arrows from a trip and receive about 547gp. What the Hell.

 

 

 

This is also seen in the general store, where drasticly low payouts only enrage me even more. Good thing I've learned the art of anger surpression. The drop is about 10%.

 

 

 

The only people who benefit from this are macros, mass buyers, skillers, and merchanters. Who needs the street market when you have an absoluteley infinite stock to buy for the same price?

 

 

 

So, in conclusion, the line between buying and selling prices has fattened up, encouraging the (warning: steriotype) boastful merchanters who throw around millions like they were chinchompas, and giving a one-two punch to the little guy, pushin' for that higher number of yellow goodness.

 

 

 

 

 

The world of trade will never be the same again.

I wouldn't say that the ONLY people who profited from this update were the merchants/macro'ers etc.

 

 

 

I'd say that alot of skillers have benefited (whilst it may be at the expense of others) because they can now get bulk items easier without having to spend time buying them from another player.

 

 

 

Saves time, and is more convenient.

It didn't give merchants or macros anything. But it did help anyone who wants to buy in bulk. Even if you spend the extra 20gp it's worth the time it takes to get the items.

...alot of skillers have benefited...

 

 

 

Fine, sorreeeee. Jk, but yeah, that's what I meant. The whole mass buyer/skiller/merchanter bundle is usual.

-> saves time -> time is money -> everyone who wants to make cash benefits in one way or the other, even if its not directly linked to that person in the way of a "shop" but perhaps in certain prices that will go down/up

 

 

 

and, if macroers get poked by jagex, doesnt that benefit everyone (except the macroers duh) in the end? :)

...alot of skillers have benefited...

 

 

 

Fine, sorreeeee. Jk, but yeah, that's what I meant. The whole mass buyer/skiller/merchanter bundle is usual.

 

 

 

So you're saying buyers, skillers and merchanters have benefitted from this update... so who hasn't? The only group I can think of you've left out is pkers, they don't really need shops. So according to you, everyone has benefitted, what're you complaining about again?

The only thing left for merchanters is logs and fish, because you can't buy them noted. But yes, the street market has died.

 

R.I.P

Check the forums, a lot of people still buy there. And I really don't think someone is going to buy 300 irons for the same price they are buying say, 4k irons.

I don't understand. How does this help macroers and merchants whatsoever? I'd argue that both parties get completely trashed with this update. Macros can't use shop-buying scripts anymore, because shops sell 50-60 gp overpriced (or, in the case of arrows, simply 2 gp above street price), and merchants can't buy cheap materials to sell at a huge profit.

 

 

 

And to answer your question: a street price is needed because the shops were stocked to sell overpriced. They're a mixed bag - yes, you can buy tons and tons of whatever you want, but you'll have to deal with the fact that you'll be buying it for more than other players sell it.

So you're saying buyers, skillers and merchanters have benefitted from this update... so who hasn't? The only group I can think of you've left out is pkers, they don't really need shops. So according to you, everyone has benefitted, what're you complaining about again?

 

 

 

...that the people who are selling things will get much less than before, since all the shops are offering an infinite amount for a lower price than the players. And no, everyone is not either a macro, merchanter, pker, or skiller. Some of us actually play the game, don't cheat (macros), have more than one stat raised (skillers), don't spend our time making others miserable (pkers), and don't have the patience to be yelling the same exact thing over and over again (merchanters).

this is completely ridiculous....there over a million items in runescape not sold by a single shop in runescape....this thread is so so ridiculous its funny....and theres plenty of stuff to merchant still

 

 

 

 

 

AND WHO CARES ITS ALL ABOUT FUN!!!!!

It only removes some of the things to merchant. Is there unlimited coal? Is there unlimited raw lobster? Is there unlimited raw shark? No, there isn't. I would advise that you stop whining and suck it up. You have to learn to adapt.

So you're saying buyers, skillers and merchanters have benefitted from this update... so who hasn't? The only group I can think of you've left out is pkers, they don't really need shops. So according to you, everyone has benefitted, what're you complaining about again?

 

 

 

don't spend our time making others miserable (pkers),

 

 

 

Okay, how the hell are pkers making other miserable? Pkers is an aspect of the game... If you care THAT much about what other people are doing for fun, or to get some money, you have been playing WAY to much.. #-o

Player sold arrows were overpriced to begin with. Theres no reason someone should spend so much on ranged. I'm glad arrows are easier to get now, same with elemental runes.

wow another topic like this?

I dont see how this could be a problem. If your still selling things to shops you might want to move on. This has also been a major help to f2p. Theres plenty of runes and arrows at cheaper prices then what those dang merchants sell for and bots are being pushed further into a corner. I honestly dont get what people are complaining about.

Player sold arrows were overpriced to begin with. Theres no reason someone should spend so much on ranged. I'm glad arrows are easier to get now, same with elemental runes.

 

 

 

agreed but i just bought 10k addys for 170ea just before the update #-o

it didn't help merchanters at all because merchanters like me used to buy for example earth runes when the price was very low like 5 gp each. But now, the lowest the price goes to is like 15gp each, and you can't merchant like that!

i think it was a good update.. now 99 range is affordable at less than 2m if you pick your arrows up compaired to 3-5m.

 

 

 

just deal with it.. there are still plenty of ways to make a ton of money besides merching.. ill just pk after 80 range for my "dough"

for the first time in over 4 months, I was able to buy a bronze arrow from the store. This is something that I should have the opportunity to do at least SOME of the time. It did come at a cost, namely, more expensive arrows, but good riddance macroers!!!!!

I think the update is a stroke of brilliance on JagexÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s behalf. They instantly wiped out billions of gp from the game (good for slowing down inflation), gave us all certainty of price for everyday items, and set proper benchmarks for shop prices. Costs for arrows, runes, vials etc will not swing from now on (unless Jagex change prices) ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ and pesky auto buyers are out of business.

 

 

 

Now for the flax pickers, yew choppers, nat runners, coal miners, lobby/shark catchers, dragon fighting bots. Surely they canÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t be too hard to catch :P

The only people who benefit from this are macros, mass buyers, skillers, and merchanters. Who needs the street market when you have an absoluteley infinite stock to buy for the same price?

 

 

 

Macroers (auto-buyers) haven't benefited because they can no longer mass buy anymore. How could they possibly benefit? their job has been rendered USELESS! They have been HURT by this update

 

 

 

Mass buyers who resell for a profit cannot benefit anymore for the same reason as the macroers. They're job has been rendered useless! They have been HURT by this update

 

 

 

Mass buyers who want a lot of the goods very quickly have benefited. If that's what you meant by "mass buyers" then that's the first correct thing you've said.

 

 

 

Mass buyers who

 

 

 

some skillers have benefited because their goods have gone up in price (some have benefited more than others)

 

 

 

Merchants have not benefit from this because their price range is much more limited now. Part of the merchants roles is to provide fast goods but at a higher price. Now, the stores are doing that so merchants have to compete.

 

 

 

The infinite stock will not be equal to the street price. Otherwise people would just buy from the infinite stocks instead of from players because they are easier to access and have infinite amounts

 

 

 

Don't bother making random claims if you can't provide any support.

 

 

 

 

...that the people who are selling things will get much less than before, since all the shops are offering an infinite amount for a lower price than the players. And no, everyone is not either a macro, merchanter, pker, or skiller. Some of us actually play the game, don't cheat (macros), have more than one stat raised (skillers), don't spend our time making others miserable (pkers), and don't have the patience to be yelling the same exact thing over and over again (merchanters).

 

 

 

people who have more than one stat raised are, in fact, skillers

 

 

 

Pkers are not responsible for your lack of precautions

 

 

 

Merchants have the right to have patience, as they offer a very useful service.

 

 

 

Skilling, pking, merchanting are all form of "playing the game". Don't like it? Don't do it, but don't even think about criticizing others just because they don't have the same views on what's fun and what isn't.

I don't understand how you can have a rant about this update its perfectly fine and the prices fit in well for most :-k

Try to realise jagex is trying to help us, I would like to agree but people are still buying feathers for 7 gp ea when you can get them for 6gp ea in shanty pass.

 

In a way they are helping us and eventully we will have to get used to this fact.

I think the update is a stroke of brilliance on JagexÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s behalf. They instantly wiped out billions of gp from the game (good for slowing down inflation), gave us all certainty of price for everyday items, and set proper benchmarks for shop prices. Costs for arrows, runes, vials etc will not swing from now on (unless Jagex change prices) ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ and pesky auto buyers are out of business.

 

 

 

Now for the flax pickers, yew choppers, nat runners, coal miners, lobby/shark catchers, dragon fighting bots. Surely they canÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t be too hard to catch :P

 

 

 

I agree. Very much.

 

 

 

Ever heard of what happened during Hyperinflation in Germany during the Weimer govt's reign? People literally used banknotes to fuel the fire in their fireplaces, yes, the value of a bucket of banknotes is less than a gram of charcoal...

 

 

 

Therefore, i conclude that JaGeX has finally regained their cleverness.