Nom Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 This thread is so full of ignorance and blatant idiocy that I can hardly breathe. The main point that most of you are missing: The Wii has a fully functional Opera-based internet browser. This means that you can browse the web on the Wii (GASP!). The Wii has flash support, so can play back things like Youtube videos and certain flash-based games. What the OP is talking about is something that crossed the minds of many when they heard the browser news: Could you play Runescape on it? Ok. Now that's out of the way. You can not currently play Runescape on the Wii, because Runescape runs on Java, and the Wii is incapable of running Java at the moment. Now, sometime in the near future I can see it happening, since Java is platform-independent already and it will not take too much tampering to make it run on the Wii, just as they managed to make the Opera browser work. But, as Makoto said, the Wii memory may not be able to handle it, and there are a lot of other roadblacks to work around. But it's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_Rdam Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 not going to happen..dude runescape is for p.c. and p.c. only and people don't make a thread saying "runescape on PS3" its not going to happen.. end of my story Indeed, wii can't install Java. So can't happen. Credits to Skully Sc for the signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Not at all. Runescape is for PC's only. They'll never expand to wii or PS3 for that matter. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayjest Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 As you all seem to have ignored my above post, I thought I'd do some more thinking. For those of you that pay attention to the gaming world outside of RS and whatever individual console you have, Nintendo announced something called WiiWare a while back. Essentially, these are new games created specifically for the Wii, downloaded using the same method as the Virtual Console. There is a new version of Dr Mario (utilising online multiplayer) in the works, as is what appears to be a sequal to Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles. The latter is more likely to be a short story or spin off due to the download limit on WiiWare titles and the fact that there is already an actual direct sequel already announced. However, this does present some opportunities. If Jagex is willing to spend the money, the could conceivably hire a team that could design a Wii version of Runescape. Some things would have to be different (USB Keyboard is not 100% supported yet - e.g. in an actual game) such as the way the engine copes with chat, but it could conceivably work. Once that's done, port the updates would be easy, although it would most likely cause delays at Jagex's end. Perhaps a new pricing plan for members could be implemented? Instead of paying a 1 off fee of Wii Points for the game then a members fee as per usual, perhaps 200 Points for initial download then 20 for each update? In order to continue playing you'd have to download the new update... it could conceivably work. That said, I doubt it has much of a market, as most RS players would play it on a computer, and only use the Wii for the novelty value. The odds of getting any serious players to continually play and pay are small. But as the problems with Java have already been outlined, making the possibility of RS on the Wii Browser small, WiiWare might be the only way it could happen. Still very unlikely. Perhaps the only way to get it on Wii would be to wait 20 years for Jagex to get sold/bought/bust etc. Then some retro gamer can work out a way of porting it and allowing you to use motion control, thus allowing us to actually fire an arrow when we're ranging blue dragons... (Actually, does anyone else think that might be a bad idea? The amount of work my character actually does would certainly tire me out...) Goals to get my skills back up to a barely respectable level on the high scores: Currently going for Bone to Peaches spell. It's amazing how boring doing the same repetitive task is! Stupid MTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blingkachi50 Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 It'd be pointless and a bad investment on Jagex's part imo so no. [blingkachi50] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Are you people stupid, or just ignorant, they aren't going on about it being a game on the Wii, just being able to play it on the wii browser, which currently doesn't support java. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayjest Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Are you people stupid, or just ignorant, they aren't going on about it being a game on the Wii, just being able to play it on the wii browser, which currently doesn't support java. I'm assuming you're referring to me as well as others there, so I shall refer you to this article, where Andrew states the possibility of porting RS to the current generation of consoles. The fact that RS cannot happen on the Wii browser without Java support has already been discussed several times, that is a non issue. I brought something new to the table, and everyone seems very keen on either ignoring me or shouting me down. Goals to get my skills back up to a barely respectable level on the high scores: Currently going for Bone to Peaches spell. It's amazing how boring doing the same repetitive task is! Stupid MTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteguy Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Look, Java wont waste their time investing their programs onto the Wii, or anything else for that matter. Reason being is that in another year or 2 another console will come out and the Wii will be old. Thus, making their 1/2 years meaningless. :| Java itself is a cross-compatible platform. It can go anywhere that can download the JVM, the Java Virtual Machine. Since the Wii does not have a big enough harddrive that you can save things to, you'll not see it on the Wii anytime soon (also for thereasons that Makoto mentioned) . Correct me if i'm wrong, but what about SD cards? I use those alot, you would just need to download Java into the SD card, then run it in the Wii. I love posting on forums with the Wii. Anyway, if that gets to happen, i will spend alot of time on my Wii My Last.fm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlanders Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 not going to happen..dude runescape is for p.c. and p.c. only We didn't notice? and people don't make a thread saying "runescape on PS3" its not going to happen.. How do you know it̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s not going to happen? I̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ve read an interview of Andrew Gower saying he was interested into putting Runescape onto PS3 or Wii. Maybe you'd actually know those things if you took the time to search before jumping to conclusions, nubcake. http://www.computerandvideogames.com/ar ... ?id=167285 2480+ total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neocrosby Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 He mean't not playing on the Wii, as one of its console game. Simply play runscape on the Wii's internet channel. and yes... this would be possible if they added java, wouldn't it? [combat level: 124][skill total: 1,800+][quest points: 260][Mining: ??]AFTER 8 YEARS OF PLAYING - PERM BANNEDGo Vegan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymouse_ Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 The wii controller is just not sensitive enough...just think how hard it would be to pick up someone's loot (with about a dozen looters standing over the pile, of course) #-o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das1330 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 the biggest problem is a lack of RAM. Game systems run only a certain thing-games, so programs tend to be much more stingy with RAM usage. While the processor is powerful enough on the wii, there is not enough RAM to run runesape correctly. The only system that could even theoretically run runescape would be the PS3, and even then it would only just barely meet the minimum requirements, clocking in with 128MB of RAM. High speed RAM, but still just 128MB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomboy1491 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 ok no offence but y would u waste a great system like the wii with rs? and i dont see java happening (yet?), if u heard the news recently wii is having trouble with the wii stock because they didnt expect it to be so popular. they might not even make the holiday season :-# ̢̮â¬Å¡ÃâÃÂ»ÃÆÃ¢Ã¢ââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâÃÂ ÃÆÃ¢â¬Å¡ÃâämÃÆÃâÃâ¦ÃÂ¸ÃÆÃâÃâÃÂ¸ÃÆÃ¢â¬Å¡ÃâÃÂ¥ÃÆÃ¢â¬Å¡Ãâë ~Fisher for Life~Accomplished September 20, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmv_hero Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 what is the point of making a video game system more like a pc? that means really bored technojerks can write viruses to destroy your VG system's memory if you visit stupid "wii-sites" things. then we'd have to redefine it as an "entertainment console". And your computer that you're sitting at probably does a better job of managing files/surfing the net. GO SNES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makoto_the_Phoenix Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Correct me if i'm wrong, but what about SD cards? I use those alot, you would just need to download Java into the SD card, then run it in the Wii. In theory, you have the space, depending on how big the card is, but you don't have the operating system [OS] compatibility, which is the biggest and most difficult stumbling block out there, when it comes to programming languages. Java is different in the sense that all you need is its Runtime Environment, but even that RE has some hardware/OS limitations placed on it as well. An environment such as the Java Mobile Environment (JME) exists for handhelds or low-power computers, but my doubts lie with Jagex on that part -- it's extremely difficult to port something that's used to running in 128MB of ram to something that'll run 133MiB. [Yes, there is a difference.] Since I don't know what OS the Wii runs, I couldn't tell you if it would be even (remotely) possible that it could be ported. Only thing that remains to be seen is whether or not the Wii's OS itself could take such a program in the first place. Linux User/Enthusiast | Full-Stack Software Engineer | Stack Overflow Member | GIMP User...Alright, the Elf City update lured me back to RS over a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omghax Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 it's extremely difficult to port something that's used to running in 128MB of ram to something that'll run 133MiB. [Yes, there is a difference.] You do realize that 133MiB is bigger than 128MB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makoto_the_Phoenix Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 it's extremely difficult to port something that's used to running in 128MB of ram to something that'll run 133MiB. [Yes, there is a difference.] You do realize that 133MiB is bigger than 128MB Yeah, it's higher. However, you should also realize that 133MiB is the full extent of the Wii's hardware, including that which it uses for graphics, internal processes, etc. That's why I say it'll be difficult to port it in. Linux User/Enthusiast | Full-Stack Software Engineer | Stack Overflow Member | GIMP User...Alright, the Elf City update lured me back to RS over a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwrm22 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 it's extremely difficult to port something that's used to running in 128MB of ram to something that'll run 133MiB. [Yes, there is a difference.] You do realize that 133MiB is bigger than 128MB Yeah, it's higher. However, you should also realize that 133MiB is the full extent of the Wii's hardware, including that which it uses for graphics, internal processes, etc. That's why I say it'll be difficult to port it in. its not hard disk space... its just its temp. memory that needs to be above 128mb... (my pc runs on 2000mb) ^^ click my sig for my lesser ranging guide ^^jwrm22: 4816th > 99 cooking 100% f2p !1172 total! + 140mil in items.i dont play anymore... i think rs is ruined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwreeTak Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Myself I think that if we were able to play RS on Wii, it would be very cool. But I still don't think that we will ever have the oppurtunity to do that, since Java probalby never will be avaible for Wii. But you can never be sure when it comes to Jagex's plans... Add me if you so wish: SwreeTak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkDude Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 it's extremely difficult to port something that's used to running in 128MB of ram to something that'll run 133MiB. [Yes, there is a difference.] You do realize that 133MiB is bigger than 128MB Yeah, it's higher. However, you should also realize that 133MiB is the full extent of the Wii's hardware, including that which it uses for graphics, internal processes, etc. That's why I say it'll be difficult to port it in. its not hard disk space... its just its temp. memory that needs to be above 128mb... (my pc runs on 2000mb) Well done for pointing something else that everyone was talking about anyway! I can't see one place someone talked about hard drive space in the people you quoted... :wall: I also highly highly doubt Jagex would make a Wii Version of Runescape due to the fact that Nintendo have a rubbish online plan. Based on what Nintendo are doing at the moment they'd never introduce an MMO that relies on talking to other people and such. If this was Microsoft/Sony then we might stand a chance but no way in hell would it work with Nintendo's stupid thoughts about online. So the ONLY way you'll be able to play Runescape on the wii is if Sun/Opera/Nintendo or whoever needs to do it brings Java to the wii and even then as stated hundreds of times in this thread I doubt the Wii has the correct system requirements to even play the game very efficiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omghax Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 My memory usage for the unsigned low mem version hovers just under 100MB so its that leaves the wii around 33 MB for its os and webbrowser. It might be a bit of a stretch for it to run but i think it would be able to if they implement java. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMjE Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 You could put every game on almost every counsel. Yeah cause were gonna put Halo 3 on Game Boy Color... Rofl lol +1 null and void Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheep455_is_the_best Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 You could put every game on almost every counsel. Yeah cause were gonna put Halo 3 on Game Boy Color... Some "geeks" ( I dont like that word ) on my school made a Game Boy run Windows XP. They had to increase the memory though :lol: It was really slow, but it worked. I know it aint Halo 3, but it was pretty cool! [Whip drops: 13] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippy_PK Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 not gunna happen for a very long time, those consoles r actual rivals of java. java is for pc therefore supporting pc not game consoles Member of 100+ Korrupted Fury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBlk Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 well that would be cool but its unreal and wount happen soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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