guss Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 http://www.fradical.com/US_hearings_on_rap_hip_hop.htm A bad rap for hip-hop Globe and Mail (AP) September 25, 2007 By Jim Abrams Washington - Two rappers, sitting side-by-side in an ornate House hearing room, went in different directions Monday on the need for hip hop artists to expunge their work of sexist and violent language. One, Master P, apologized to women for past songs that demeaned them, while another was defiant. Former gangsta rapper Master P, whose real name is Percy Miller, told a House Energy and Commerce subcommittee hearing that he is now committed to producing clean lyrics. The angry music of his past, he said, came from seeing relatives and friends shot and killed. But he said now that he doesn't want his own children to listen to his music, "so if I can do anything to change this, I'm going to take a stand and do that." "I want to apologize to all the women out there," he said. "I was honestly wrong." But rapper and record producer Levell Crump, known as David Banner, was defiant as lawmakers pressed him on his use of offensive language. "I'm like Stephen King: horror music is what I do," he said in testimony laced with swear words. "Change the situation in my neighbourhood and maybe I'll get better," he told one member of Congress. The two rappers were joined by music industry executives and scholars. They disagreed over who was to blame for sexist and degrading language in hip-hop music but were united in opposing government censorship as a solution. "If by some stroke of the pen hip-hop was silenced, the issues would still be present in our communities," Mr. Crump said. "Drugs, violence, sexism and the criminal element were around long before hip-hop existed." David banner is not who I agree with totally. As you can read above(but between the lines). My pure's stats: str:70attc:35def:4range:72mage:70hp:70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctp080188 Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Aaaaaaaand CUE! arguement about rap is crap, no it's not, etc etc etc. SHH HUT YUH MUH. DERKHED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Here's a medal. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necromagus Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 As much as I hate the stereotypical rap lyrics, it's not government's place to nanny us. My Tip.It Times Articles (10 and counting) || The Varrock Library Author Index projectDo you dare to dream? - Part 19 added. || The Hospital (WIP) - New story!Necromagus looks like a viking ... with glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i123i Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 honestly get off their nuts, let them make their music...I truly lost faith in the mainstream hip hop artists that everyone listens to besides a few lil wayne songs here and there tho he's been getting real annoying and have rather sided with old songs and old artists... I appreciate women as a person and don't objectify them in the slightest manner but really-it's their music. You don't see people jumping all over the painters and sculpture artists for doing nude paintings/sculptures eh? No one's taking jabs at the porn industry? Seriously, hip hop isn't the only art form to degrade women, I'm sure many rock artists do it too, just no lyrically. Banner made a point...if the government wants them to change THEIR lyrics then the government should solve THE HOOD'S problem so it DOESN'T get written about in the present tense....if you get me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomy Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 No matter what the Lyrics are, it still sucks. Doomy edit: I like sheep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
How2PK Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Says the Good Charlotte fan... Signature by Maurice SendakWhen the stars make you drool just like a pasta fazool, that's amore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necrobean Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Not much of a fan of rap to. But I'd suggest Eazy E or just N.W.A in general to you. Enjoy ;> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sycosis5 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 No matter what the Lyrics are, it still sucks. Gives medal* I don't like Rap because its all about them raping about Cappin' Pimpin' Hating their moma' I know its stereotipical but thats all the rap I've heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakka102 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 this isnt anything I've not heard before, artist growing up and changing their minds about certain songs, none (or very few) of the artist of any genre practice what they preach anyways. You don't see a horror movie director going out and killing people like what happened in his movies, the same goes for music, they are just making a point and its art. And I'm not a rap fan either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 I know its stereotipical If you know that it's biased crap, then why did you proceed to crap it out? This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sycosis5 Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Bevause it's my opinion and has to be expressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AThousandLies Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Bevause it's my opinion and has to be expressed But you acknowledge that you're opinion is ill-informed, yet you still express it aware of the influence of stereotypes. It doesn't have to be expressed, especially if it's, as Bubsa says, simply crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retefael Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 No matter what the Lyrics are, it still sucks. Gives medal* I don't like Rap because its all about them raping about Cappin' Pimpin' Hating their moma' I know its stereotipical but thats all the rap I've heard. Then I invite you to listen to Kanye West, Jay-Z, and Talib Kweli, among others. I don't run races to see who's the fastest, I run to see who has the most guts. -PreCurrently the best beat out there:Minuit jacuzzi (DatA Remix) - TEPR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryto Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Yes, I'm sure that these million-dollar music stars still live in the "ghetto" PS i hate rap too When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~Jonathan SwiftWebsite Updates/Corrections here. WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT! Crewbie's Missions!Contributor of the Day!Thanks to artists: Destro3979, Guthix121, Shivers21, and Unoalexi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Yes, I'm sure that these million-dollar music stars still live in the "ghetto" PS i hate rap too I'm sure Kanye West has never rapped, or mentioned, living in a ghetto - given his middle class upbringing. Moron. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryto Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 im talking about banner, moron When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~Jonathan SwiftWebsite Updates/Corrections here. WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT! Crewbie's Missions!Contributor of the Day!Thanks to artists: Destro3979, Guthix121, Shivers21, and Unoalexi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperClipsYaaaar Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 uh...free speech? why are they even holding meetings about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomom1919 Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Why don't women wear watches? [hide]Because theres a clock on the stove![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revenga Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Why don't women wear watches? [hide]Because theres a clock on the stove![/hide] Best part of this topic. ^^ I hate rap music. Sure, seldom are there guys who rap about something that isn't shooting people, selling drugs, CRUNK, all those other stereotypical gangster lyrics, and kuddos to them, but there is just too many people that DO that ruin the whole genre for me. Just turn on the radio and you'll see what I mean. |Msg me me in-game | IrreIephant| ^ capital i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medellin Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Rap sucks for everything it stands for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocobodude0 Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 SMH @ this entire topic: Aaaaaaaand CUE! arguement about rap is crap, no it's not, etc etc etc. Word. No matter what the Lyrics are, it still sucks. No matter what Good Charlotte's lyrics are, they still suck. Do you realise how stupid that sounded? I don't even listen to Good Charlotte, so why would I say such a stupid thing? Ask yourself the same question. Gives medal* I don't like Rap because its all about them raping about Cappin' Pimpin' Hating their moma' I know its stereotipical but thats all the rap I've heard. So we should judge everything by stereotyping? Which would make you a preteen, depressed, wrist-slitting suburbanite, right? Which I don't think you are. So there ya go, stereotyping = wrong. Don't try to back up one stereotype and condemn another. Yes, I'm sure that these million-dollar music stars still live in the "ghetto" Relevance? If I ever became a musician, you can be damn sure that I'm going to write about my past. Sure, some don't execute like they should, but the point still stands. I hate rap music. Sure, seldom are there guys who rap about something that isn't shooting people, selling drugs, CRUNK, all those other stereotypical gangster lyrics, and kuddos to them, but there is just too many people that DO that ruin the whole genre for me. Just turn on the radio and you'll see what I mean. Wow, the second I saw that "seldom are there guys who rap something that isn't..." I knew that you weren't going to know what you were talking about. You don't know anythign about rap, if you did, you'd realise outside of the mainstream, there's not much rappign about shooting, drugs, crunk (this one especially). And don't use the radio as a reason. Radio music displays mainstream of ALL genre, the radio is the prime example for mainstream music of ANY genre. If you're using the radio to find music you'd like, then your judgement is pretty questionable. Rap sucks for everything it stands for. Yeah. Anti-racism, fairness, equality, critcism of corrupt politics, love, friendship, respect, religion, and enlightment of other cultures sucks. I seriously LOVE getting in rap debates with the biased people on these boards nowadays, 'cause I always win them because they never know what they're talking about, assuming they're experts because they've heard hip-hop on MTV and the radio. :D But anyway, both Banner and Master P were correct (though I don't listen to either of them). Master P wasn't exactly supporting women's rights with his lyrics, but it's good to know he's willing to apologize and change for it. Too bad he's about 10 years late now, being an instrumental figure in the rise of the South, which lead to the apparent death of hip-hop.. And Banner's right too. Why is the government getting so upset over people rapping about the ghetto? If they would DO somethign about the impovershed neighborhoods and projects across America, there'd be no backlash from rappers. Sure, Banner isn't the example that should be used of someone talking about the ghetto (I think Nas, Talib Kweli, etc. would be a much better example), but that doesn't mean that the current situations of ghettos and projects aren't in need of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaranth_GTO Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Why don't women wear watches? [hide]Because theres a clock on the stove![/hide]Why don't women drive? [hide]because there's no highway between the bedroom and the kitchen.[/hide]That being said, I despise (most) rap. Some rap is ok, but to much of it is sexist, racist, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikerkid Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 As long as the ghetto and the hoodz are still around rappers won't go out of business. Quit RuneScape :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 I don't say I hate rap, I just say I don't listen to it. When you start slamming other people's choice of music the only one who looks like an idiot is you for being so close-minded. (If that makes sense) Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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