MechScape: The reason for the decline of RS?

[llamster]

Now I'm even more convinced that MechScape is a rumor.

 

 

 

 

Oh so a filed tradedmark by Jagex Ltd, over 20 domains registered to Jagex Ltd, Jagex employees writing about it on their CVs, some peices of concept art leaked, us knowing Jagex have been working on a new game or 2 for a while and it's a rumour? :-k

 

 

 

I'm not going to believe a word of it until Jagex actually puts something on their corporate website.

[Moonshadow]

Here's my opinion.

 

 

 

This is one of the most worthless, idiotic threads I have seen in a while. Just because a company is working on another game doesn't mean that it's going to abandon it's first one. SOE has, I believe, 14 different MMORPGs, yet many of them are very good. It would be very stupid of Jagex to let go of their original game, the game that has made them millions.

 

 

 

RuneScape is not limited by Java, it is limited by the fact that it is a browser game. Java isn't good for graphics, but it is capable of creating graphics that are much better than RuneScape's

 

 

This is a screenshot from Wurm Online, an MMORPG programmed entirely in Java.

 

 

 

Jagex works very hard on RuneScape. Why don't you read this? If you want to quit RuneScape, go ahead. It's your loss.

 

 

 

EDIT: I looked up Mechscape on Wikipedia. All I found was a short, unprofessional stub article that claims that Jagex is making a game named MechScape. I also checked on Google. I'm thinking that this new game is just a rumor...

 

 

 

Hmm, lets look at it form your point of view. Mechscape is just a myth. So, Jagex registered all those domain names with "mechscape" names in them for pure fun. They also must be hiring employees with a sci fi interest just for pure conversational reasons.

 

 

 

Also, Jagex must have registered a trademark for Mechscape, because it sounds cool.

 

 

 

Not saying it is definite, but, it has a lot of merit.

[Jordanweb]

I'm not going to believe a word of it until Jagex actually puts something on their corporate website.

 

 

 

http://www.jagex.com/corporate/About/today.ws

 

 

 

Our aim for 2007 is to continue to develop and improve RuneScape, while at the same time taking RuneScape into other non-english language markets following Germany. And to develop further games using our technologies.

 

 

 

Can you not see it yet?

[llamster]

I'm not going to believe a word of it until Jagex actually puts something on their corporate website.

 

 

 

http://www.jagex.com/corporate/About/today.ws

 

 

 

Our aim for 2007 is to continue to develop and improve RuneScape, while at the same time taking RuneScape into other non-english language markets following Germany. And to develop further games using our technologies.

 

 

 

Can you not see it yet?

 

 

 

I have read that page a dozen times before. With the new CEO, it's almost certain that Jagex is making a new game. But if MechScape has been in development for as long as your evidence says, it would have been announced long before now on the corporate website, and perhaps even on runescape.com.

[Moonshadow]

I'm not going to believe a word of it until Jagex actually puts something on their corporate website.

 

 

 

http://www.jagex.com/corporate/About/today.ws

 

 

 

Our aim for 2007 is to continue to develop and improve RuneScape, while at the same time taking RuneScape into other non-english language markets following Germany. And to develop further games using our technologies.

 

 

 

Can you not see it yet?

 

 

 

I have read that page a dozen times before. With the new CEO, it's almost certain that Jagex is making a new game. But if MechScape has been in development for as long as your evidence says, it would have been announced long before now on the corporate website, and perhaps even on runescape.com.

 

Have you ever thought they want to keep it a surprise/secret until it is very close to being finished before they release it? Maybe they don't want to deal with members whining on the forums about how they are so slow, or they want it now.

 

 

 

Jagex has kept secrets before. Hunter is a prime example.

[Jordanweb]

I have read that page a dozen times before. With the new CEO, it's almost certain that Jagex is making a new game. But if MechScape has been in development for as long as your evidence says, it would have been announced long before now on the corporate website, and perhaps even on runescape.com.

 

 

 

Jagex are probably trying to avoid fake websites popping up and not mentioning it untill it is near completion.

 

 

 

Imagine if today jagex said on the runescape homepage that they had a game called mechscape in development, can you just imagine what the whole forums are going to be like? Rants, spam, the lot.

 

 

 

If i was Jagex ceo i wouldn't say a word of it untill it was complete.

[chi13]

Finally, November is Jagex's last chance to avoid losing one of their longest paying customers. If they don't release anything spectacular in November, come December first, I am unsubscribing. But hell, what do I matter to them? Even if I leave, I will just be replaced by ten whiny noobs who crap their pants and then beg Jagex to do something about it.

 

 

 

Oh, and PS: I will probably end up checking out their new game if it has a trial, but there's no way in hell I am subscribing. Jagex has exhausted their credibility with me; the only reason I've put up with their BS for this long is because I've invested over half a decade of my life into their game and I do not fancy starting from scratch in a different MMO.

 

 

 

Cry about it...

[runescapeloser22]

"Mechscape" may be (I believe) a companion product for Jagex, however tracing through from Wiki to the UK Intellectual Property Office (where trademarks are recorded) I believe they are going to continue expanding the Runescape "cash-cow" empire. They are going or are planning to do this through physical play merchandise such as trading cards, board games etc. Watch the shops Xmas 2008!!!

 

 

 

The link if you are interested the link is

 

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tm/t-find/t-find-number?detailsrequested=C&trademark=2469132. If you are unsure about clicking links then here is an extract from the application:

 

 

 

Case details for Trade Mark 2469132

 

Case history Mark

 

 

 

Mark text: RUNESCAPE

 

Status: New Application Class: 28 Relevant dates

 

Filing date: 11 October 2007 List of goods or services

 

Class 28: Toys, games and playthings; board games; playing cards

 

 

 

Proprietor: Jagex Limited

 

St Andrews House, 90 St Andrews Road, Cambridge, CB4 1DL

 

Incorporated country: United Kingdom

 

Residence country: United Kingdom

 

Customer's ref: SC/RUNESCAPE/W28

 

ADP number: 0820133001

 

 

 

 

TTFN

 

 

 

Runescape...Trading...Cards... :ohnoes:

 

Although a Runescape version of Monopoly wouldn't be half bad :)

 

Port Sarim: $300

 

Abyssal Whip: $150

[Bobbington]

"Mechscape" may be (I believe) a companion product for Jagex, however tracing through from Wiki to the UK Intellectual Property Office (where trademarks are recorded) I believe they are going to continue expanding the Runescape "cash-cow" empire. They are going or are planning to do this through physical play merchandise such as trading cards, board games etc. Watch the shops Xmas 2008!!!

 

 

 

The link if you are interested the link is

 

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tm/t-find/t-find-number?detailsrequested=C&trademark=2469132. If you are unsure about clicking links then here is an extract from the application:

 

 

 

Case details for Trade Mark 2469132

 

Case history Mark

 

 

 

Mark text: RUNESCAPE

 

Status: New Application Class: 28 Relevant dates

 

Filing date: 11 October 2007 List of goods or services

 

Class 28: Toys, games and playthings; board games; playing cards

 

 

 

Proprietor: Jagex Limited

 

St Andrews House, 90 St Andrews Road, Cambridge, CB4 1DL

 

Incorporated country: United Kingdom

 

Residence country: United Kingdom

 

Customer's ref: SC/RUNESCAPE/W28

 

ADP number: 0820133001

 

 

 

 

TTFN

 

 

 

Runescape...Trading...Cards... :ohnoes:

 

Although a Runescape version of Monopoly wouldn't be half bad :)

 

Port Sarim: $300

 

Abyssal Whip: $150

 

 

 

Surely that class 28 past refers to what else is in the category chosen... Jagex is making a "game" and so are in class 28, MB make bored games so come into that class too....

 

 

 

is it not just a class description rather than company description.

[reaper88888]

Its called 'expanding your company'... -.-

 

 

 

 

 

The author is the online equivilent of a guy walking around on a street corner with a 'The End is Come!' cardboard sign...

[highlanders]

I can't believe Jagex plans to make their next game out of java aswell. That is so stupid.

 

 

 

Runescape doesn't have smooth, agreeable gameplay, au contaire. Runescape doesn't have good graphics, it is bottom pit. Runescape doesn't have a good friendly community, it's one of the worse on internet. It survives because of the exceptionally large content it has.

 

 

 

For now, a lot of high graphical mmorpgs are asian hack and slashs, with very little content. But when the little asians will have understood that adding content is the way to go if they want to snatch the westerners, Runescape is toasted.

 

 

 

Choosing java for their alledged backup game is utterly ridiculous. It means they will never be able to graphically compete with the other games. So in the next years, Jagex survival will count on pure wishful thinking: in hopes other graphically superior games don't start adding complex content such as skills and roleplaying quests.

[Jordanweb]

I can't believe Jagex plans to make their next game out of java aswell. That is so stupid.

 

 

 

Runescape doesn't have smooth, agreeable gameplay, au contaire. Runescape doesn't have good graphics, it is bottom pit. Runescape doesn't have a good friendly community, it's one of the worse on internet. It survives because of the exceptionally large content it has.

 

 

 

For now, a lot of high graphical mmorpgs are asian hack and slashs, with very little content. But when the little asians will have understood that adding content is the way to go if they want to snatch the westerners, Runescape is toasted.

 

 

 

Choosing java for their alledged backup game is utterly ridiculous. It means they will never be able to graphically compete with the other games. So in the next years, Jagex survival will count on pure wishful thinking: in hopes other graphically superior games don't start adding complex content such as skills and roleplaying quests.

 

 

 

Lmao "Graphics this, Graphics that".

 

 

 

I don't play runescape for the graphics, i play runescape for the game it is.

 

 

 

Not to mention Jagex being JA Gaming EXperts and all of their in-house technologies being based around Java.

[DRUMINATOR17]

It seems to me that if this game is to come that it would make sence not to do it in the same fashion that they have been doing runescape in for so long.

 

 

 

Technological changes come about every other year or so and Runescape has been running in this same system / format / java stuff (Whatever the hell the proper term is) that it seems like the only way it could do well with what else is out there on the market now, is to step up and upgrade.

 

 

 

Then again I guess we are all going to be playing a good bit of wait and see as it doesnt seem to me that anyone knows for sure what jagex is planing on using for their next game, as so much as they barely understand that a next one is coming at all.

 

 

 

I can't believe Jagex plans to make their next game out of java aswell. That is so stupid.

 

 

 

Runescape doesn't have smooth, agreeable gameplay, au contaire. Runescape doesn't have good graphics, it is bottom pit. Runescape doesn't have a good friendly community, it's one of the worse on internet. It survives because of the exceptionally large content it has.

 

 

 

For now, a lot of high graphical mmorpgs are asian hack and slashs, with very little content. But when the little asians will have understood that adding content is the way to go if they want to snatch the westerners, Runescape is toasted.

 

 

 

Choosing java for their alledged backup game is utterly ridiculous. It means they will never be able to graphically compete with the other games. So in the next years, Jagex survival will count on pure wishful thinking: in hopes other graphically superior games don't start adding complex content such as skills and roleplaying quests.

 

 

 

Lmao "Graphics this, Graphics that".

 

 

 

I don't play runescape for the graphics, i play runescape for the game it is.

 

 

 

Not to mention Jagex being JA Gaming EXperts and all of their in-house technologies being based around Java.

 

 

 

Which, correct me if I am wrong, was also highlanders point.

[highlanders]

Lmao "Graphics this, Graphics that".

 

 

 

I don't play runescape for the graphics, i play runescape for the game it is.

 

 

 

Not to mention Jagex being JA Gaming EXperts and all of their in-house technologies being based around Java.

 

Your missing the point.

 

 

 

Good graphics + good content (possible future high techn mmorpgs) or primitive graphics + good content (future Runescape). What would you choose?

 

 

 

And you totally missed my point, you idiot.

[Jordanweb]

Lmao "Graphics this, Graphics that".

 

 

 

I don't play runescape for the graphics, i play runescape for the game it is.

 

 

 

Not to mention Jagex being JA Gaming EXperts and all of their in-house technologies being based around Java.

 

Your missing the point.

 

 

 

Good graphics + good content (possible future high techn mmorpgs) or primitive graphics + good content (future Runescape). What would you choose?

 

 

 

And you totally missed my point, you idiot.

 

 

 

primitive graphics + good content

 

 

 

P.s. I never said I played for the content.

[The Observer]

I can't believe Jagex plans to make their next game out of java aswell. That is so stupid.

 

 

 

Runescape doesn't have smooth, agreeable gameplay, au contaire. Runescape doesn't have good graphics, it is bottom pit. Runescape doesn't have a good friendly community, it's one of the worse on internet. It survives because of the exceptionally large content it has.

 

 

 

For now, a lot of high graphical mmorpgs are asian hack and slashs, with very little content. But when the little asians will have understood that adding content is the way to go if they want to snatch the westerners, Runescape is toasted.

 

 

 

Choosing java for their alledged backup game is utterly ridiculous. It means they will never be able to graphically compete with the other games. So in the next years, Jagex survival will count on pure wishful thinking: in hopes other graphically superior games don't start adding complex content such as skills and roleplaying quests.

 

 

 

If there are higher graphics, it means that there will be higher system requirements. How many people have 1.5 gigabytes of RAM out there? The majority have around 256-1 gigabyte of RAM.

 

 

 

Graphically superior games such as WoW do have roleplaying quests and skills. RuneScape hasn't died out yet. In fact, I heard that Andrew and Paul are worth $80 million.

[@Dan3HitU]

Game me and another ex-RS player are working on:

 

 

 

It's on time just like RuneScape updates (we're almost a year behind schedule, we wanted Public BETA last year at christmas).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Special thanks to the secret person who offered to help us with bug fixing who will never be named unless they want to be.

[Wkw]

So when is the public beta going to be out?

[@Dan3HitU]

So when is the public beta going to be out?

 

 

 

MechScape? I can't say, not won't, can't :wink:

 

 

 

And for our game err, not sure we still haven't built our dueling arena yet and jousting area.

 

 

 

But to be serious about it and give a date, I would say:

 

Don't expect anything until at least next christmas, there are only 3 people (including myself) that works on it.

[darkmage099]

youre trying to find the solution/reason to a problem which doesnt exist

 

Nice backup. I believe you.

 

 

 

Now I'm even more convinced that MechScape is a rumor.

 

GTFO. You cant read. Has it ever occurred to you that that maybe they aren't done yet?

 

 

 

I can't believe Jagex plans to make their next game out of java aswell. That is so stupid.

 

 

 

Runescape doesn't have smooth, agreeable gameplay, au contaire. Runescape doesn't have good graphics, it is bottom pit. Runescape doesn't have a good friendly community, it's one of the worse on internet. It survives because of the exceptionally large content it has.

 

 

 

For now, a lot of high graphical mmorpgs are asian hack and slashs, with very little content. But when the little asians will have understood that adding content is the way to go if they want to snatch the westerners, Runescape is toasted.

 

 

 

Choosing java for their alledged backup game is utterly ridiculous. It means they will never be able to graphically compete with the other games. So in the next years, Jagex survival will count on pure wishful thinking: in hopes other graphically superior games don't start adding complex content such as skills and roleplaying quests.

 

 

 

Lmao "Graphics this, Graphics that".

 

 

 

I don't play runescape for the graphics, i play runescape for the game it is.

 

 

 

Not to mention Jagex being JA Gaming EXperts and all of their in-house technologies being based around Java.

 

 

 

#-o *WHOOSH*

[Kill_Thomas9]

http://mechscape.googlepages.com/

[llamster]

I can't believe Jagex plans to make their next game out of java aswell. That is so stupid.

 

 

 

Runescape doesn't have smooth, agreeable gameplay, au contaire. Runescape doesn't have good graphics, it is bottom pit. Runescape doesn't have a good friendly community, it's one of the worse on internet. It survives because of the exceptionally large content it has.

 

 

 

For now, a lot of high graphical mmorpgs are asian hack and slashs, with very little content. But when the little asians will have understood that adding content is the way to go if they want to snatch the westerners, Runescape is toasted.

 

 

 

Choosing java for their alledged backup game is utterly ridiculous. It means they will never be able to graphically compete with the other games. So in the next years, Jagex survival will count on pure wishful thinking: in hopes other graphically superior games don't start adding complex content such as skills and roleplaying quests.

 

 

 

First of all, Java is the language that Jagex is familiar with. They probably aren't very good at C++.

 

 

 

Second, if this alleged new game is client-based, it would probably have decent graphics, MUCH better than RuneScape. Like I have said before on this thread and many others, RuneScape's graphics are poor because it's browser-based, not because it's Java. A C++ browser game wouldn't be much better than RuneScape.

 

 

 

Third, many games with good graphics, particularly "next-generation" games, DO have complicated quests ("epic quests") and skills. They also have superior gameplay. Take it from someone who plays such games.

[mrpez]

You're one of those drama queens that loves playing Runescape down as "a cesspool" or "declining".

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

 

First of all, Java is the language that Jagex is familiar with. They probably aren't very good at C++.

 

 

 

Second, if this alleged new game is client-based, it would probably have decent graphics, MUCH better than RuneScape. Like I have said before on this thread and many others, RuneScape's graphics are poor because it's browser-based, not because it's Java. A C++ browser game wouldn't be much better than RuneScape.

 

 

 

Third, many games with good graphics, particularly "next-generation" games, DO have complicated quests ("epic quests") and skills. They also have superior gameplay. Take it from someone who plays such games.

 

 

 

1. Much of Java is derived from C++. Anyone taking a Java course or studying Java could probably half-[wagon] C++ without too many errors, and vice-versa. All you need is a compiler for C++ and a Runtime Environment for Java.

 

 

 

2. No one said that this game would be client based. Hell, there aren't many details on the new game "Mechscape" as is. Refrain from speculating; don't want your bubble to burst too early.

 

 

 

3. "Superior" gameplay is subjective; some people like a challenge (puzzle), others like real-time strategy, and the select few like to build up empires/cities or earn cash specifically in a game. I find Starcraft and Diablo II superior to RuneScape, but only in gameplay. I even find C&C Generals: Zero Hour superior, but that's only because it's an RTS element.

 

 

 

4. Don't you realize that this is off-topic of the thread? Sure, he's talking about Mechscape coming out, but he also attributes that to the "decline and decay" of RuneScape. If you can't stick to that line, don't try and post.

 

 

 

Try not to talk when you don't understand half of what you're saying, okay? Kinda makes you look foolish.

[llamster]

 

First of all, Java is the language that Jagex is familiar with. They probably aren't very good at C++.

 

 

 

Second, if this alleged new game is client-based, it would probably have decent graphics, MUCH better than RuneScape. Like I have said before on this thread and many others, RuneScape's graphics are poor because it's browser-based, not because it's Java. A C++ browser game wouldn't be much better than RuneScape.

 

 

 

Third, many games with good graphics, particularly "next-generation" games, DO have complicated quests ("epic quests") and skills. They also have superior gameplay. Take it from someone who plays such games.

 

 

 

1. Much of Java is derived from C++. Anyone taking a Java course or studying Java could probably half-[wagon] C++ without too many errors, and vice-versa. All you need is a compiler for C++ and a Runtime Environment for Java.

 

 

 

2. No one said that this game would be client based. Hell, there aren't many details on the new game "Mechscape" as is. Refrain from speculating; don't want your bubble to burst too early.

 

 

 

3. "Superior" gameplay is subjective; some people like a challenge (puzzle), others like real-time strategy, and the select few like to build up empires/cities or earn cash specifically in a game. I find Starcraft and Diablo II superior to RuneScape, but only in gameplay. I even find C&C Generals: Zero Hour superior, but that's only because it's an RTS element.

 

 

 

4. Don't you realize that this is off-topic of the thread? Sure, he's talking about Mechscape coming out, but he also attributes that to the "decline and decay" of RuneScape. If you can't stick to that line, don't try and post.

 

 

 

Try not to talk when you don't understand half of what you're saying, okay? Kinda makes you look foolish.

 

 

 

1. Being able to "half-[wagon]" C++ doesn't mean you can make a good game with it.

 

 

 

2. I mentioned client games because highlander's post was suggesting that RuneScape had poor games due to the fact that it's Java, which obviously isn't true.

 

 

 

3. Yeah, that's probably true.

 

 

 

4. Tell that to highlanders. I was merely responding to his post.

 

 

 

I don't think that Jagex is making a game called MechScape, if you read any of my posts on this thread.

 

 

 

I perfectly understand everything that I say, mind you.