he survived...this is quite inetersting, I wonder what his sentence will be, death penalty?

 

 

 

 

 

he shot himself in the head and is in critical condition. Doctors say it doesn't look good.

 

 

 

i dont call that surviving

 

 

 

 

 

I don't know what are they going to do to the guy if he will survive, cause death penalty isn't allowed here in Finland.

You people who think that this guy is intelligent and that you agree with his views...for crying out loud, open your eyes, it's just nonsense propaganda, the kind that you hear from neo-nazis and crap. How pathetic.

 

 

 

And in Finland of all places. I don't know but I always thought of Finland as a peaceful country, interested in arts and stuff, not a place where something like this could happen. Horrible.

You people who think that this guy is intelligent and that you agree with his views...for crying out loud, open your eyes, it's just nonsense propaganda, the kind that you hear from neo-nazis and crap. How pathetic.

 

 

 

And in Finland of all places. I don't know but I always thought of Finland as a peaceful country, interested in arts and stuff, not a place where something like this could happen. Horrible.

 

 

 

Well couldn't say he's and total idiot when I look at his grammar it's not from a "normal" finnish kid.

 

 

 

Yes of course this is peaceful country but does one man make it not peaceful?

Finnland isn't invicible.

 

 

 

As long as there is human element, it can be a corruptable place.

You people who think that this guy is intelligent and that you agree with his views...for crying out loud, open your eyes, it's just nonsense propaganda, the kind that you hear from neo-nazis and crap. How pathetic.

 

I do agree with the modern system corupted and what not, but his ideas of revolutions are going to fail. They will eventually become what they fought against.

Typed his Youtube name into Youtube search bar...could tell he had an interest in violence and things like americanization (how other countries are being "taken over" by american brand names etc...).

 

 

 

Saddens me everytime something like this happens, especially somewhere closer to home.

How can you be a godlike atheist? Isn't atheism based on not believing in any god?

 

 

 

(yeah I just noticed this part)

Read it a few hours ago on the site of the newspaper.

 

 

 

Once again... Things like these are very sad.

 

But I'm not that surprised that it happens more and more... Today's sociaty becomes harder and harder.

 

You learn to live with it, or things like those happen.

 

 

 

Guess it didn't work out that well in school either? Looking who the first victims were...

 

 

 

Guess it didn't work out that well in school either? Looking who the first victims were...

 

 

 

well he was an above average student

 

 

 

but maybe socially

Reading his posts, he does hate everyone who is a part of the 'system', but I despise him for taking on people who are too young to even know what the 'system' is :? He shouldn't expect must hospitality from other inmates while spending time in jail...

 

 

 

He claims one of his main objectives is "justice". By selecting those targets he just proved himself wrong.

 

 

 

You don't think it would be 'okay' if he took people who do understand 'The system', right? I hope at least.

 

 

 

He shouldn't take justice into his own hands, weither somebody deserves it or not. Young, old. It's not his, or anybodys (for that matter), place to do such things. And it's always sad when thins like this happen. Weither it's in America or Europe. I hope the shooter gets trough the condition that he is now. And otherwise I hope that he may rest in peace. Just like the people he took the lives off.

its horrible :cry: .It happened here in Finland i was just shocked when i heard the news... theres some program going on now im going to watch it..

Everyone wants to think troubled people live elsewhere, not next door. It can happen anywhere. If these individuals canÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t get their hands on a gun, theyÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ll stab people or poison them or blow something up with a homemade bomb. Getting rid of the guns wonÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t save lives, it will just change how innocent people die. The solution is to admit thereÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s a problem and get these people some help before they go on a rampage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Killing is never a solution to anything.

Everybody please dont report this but I just HAVE to say it.

 

 

 

WHY THE F*CK DO THEY SELL GUNS TO F*CKING [developmentally delayed]S?!

 

 

 

Ok, sorry guys I just HAD to say it. I was pretty terrified earlier because my friend lives in the same city this happened. I wasn't sure was it the same school, but you can think about that.

 

 

 

It's so weird this kind of things happen in our "safe" little Finland, and hope this kind of things won't encourage others to same things.

 

 

 

Best wishes to all of the people who has anything to do with the massacre, to any parents, victims, everyone, hope you will be fine. :pray:

I doubt this person used the Firearms Act to gain the gun he used. There's a huge issue with fake firearms being converted in Lithuania and being distributed across Europe. We in Britain have this problem too.

 

 

 

Fact is, there will always be a black market. Fanatics like the aforementioned will always find someway of getting guns.

This whole thing is just horrible. What kind of hell was that kid subjected to that would make him act like this?

 

 

 

Peace be to all of the victims in this horrible massacre.

*sigh* here come the "violent videogames" accusations and late night news shows "what REALLY happened" and conspiracy theories.

 

 

 

I remember in the thread about Virginia Tech here, a guy commented that this kind of stuff doesn't happen in Europe and Australia. It must be a problem with America. Well, I'm sorry to say, its not only america and its certainly not a happy event. I feel really sorry. I believe its the 3rd major shooting this decade.

*sigh* here come the "violent videogames" accusations and late night news shows "what REALLY happened" and conspiracy theories.

 

 

 

I remember in the thread about Virginia Tech here, a guy commented that this kind of stuff doesn't happen in Europe and Australia. It must be a problem with America. Well, I'm sorry to say, its not only america and its certainly not a happy event. I feel really sorry. I believe its the 3rd major shooting this decade.

 

And it's the first in Finland's entire History, and an extreme rarity in Europe. Virginia Tech was horrible, yes, but let's not be so quick to suggest the problem here is the same as in America.

Everybody please dont report this but I just HAVE to say it.

 

 

 

WHY THE F*CK DO THEY SELL GUNS TO F*CKING [developmentally delayed]?!

 

 

 

Ok, sorry guys I just HAD to say it. I was pretty terrified earlier because my friend lives in the same city this happened. I wasn't sure was it the same school, but you can think about that.

 

 

 

It's so weird this kind of things happen in our "safe" little Finland, and hope this kind of things won't encourage others to same things.

 

 

 

Best wishes to all of the people who has anything to do with the massacre, to any parents, victims, everyone, hope you will be fine. :pray:

 

 

 

It's pretty easy to get a firearm through other means.

The solution is to admit thereÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s a problem and get these people some help before they go on a rampage.

 

 

 

These incidents are just the tip of the iceberg. For every person who goes on a killing spree, there are idk how many people who feel equally miserable. Others just express it in different ways. I mean you have to feel miserable to do such things. I find it equally horrible that there are people out there, who kill themselves, because they feel so miserable and even that is just another tip of the iceberg.

 

 

 

I mean - who is really happy? Many people just learn to "deal with it". This guy dealt with it that way. Would be nice if our lives would be at least as good, so that people don't kill themselves or others. Obviously they aren't.

 

 

 

Things like that don't happen out of the blue. Our society is bad enough for incidents like that to occur. Another big red sign that reads "Change the way you are living!". I guess though, instead of loosening up, people will just get even more uptight about things with each of these occurances.

Holy crap....

 

 

 

Guys. Bear with me, but I think I am either making these happen or it's 3 coincidences in a row...

 

 

 

Ok, so my teacher was talking about Columbine in class a couple years ago. I decided to go home and research it. I learned basically all I could and I watched all the videos I could find. I even showed my sister them. The next week, a kid at my sister's school brought a gun and shot 2 kids.

 

 

 

Last year, I decided to write a report on school violence for my English Research project. I stayed up all night learning about massacres from the "Bath Elementary School Massacre" to the "Red Lake High School Massacre".

 

The next day I walk into science class and my teacher tells us about Seung-Hui Cho.

 

 

 

Last night... I was researching Columbine and found an article about the Columbine Massacre RPG. I was up all night playing it until about 6am. I went to bed and had to wake up at 8am for school Anyways, I got to school early and I had a current event due... Of course, I find this massacre added to CNN.

 

 

 

Is this all a coincidence or is something going on? That's 3 times in a row within a span of a week of researching any massacre... I'm kind of creeped out.

Holy crap....

 

 

 

Guys. Bear with me, but I think I am either making these happen or it's 3 coincidences in a row...

 

 

 

Ok, so my teacher was talking about Columbine in class a couple years ago. I decided to go home and research it. I learned basically all I could and I watched all the videos I could find. I even showed my sister them. The next week, a kid at my sister's school brought a gun and shot 2 kids.

 

 

 

Last year, I decided to write a report on school violence for my English Research project. I stayed up all night learning about massacres from the "Bath Elementary School Massacre" to the "Red Lake High School Massacre".

 

The next day I walk into science class and my teacher tells us about Seung-Hui Cho.

 

 

 

Last night... I was researching Columbine and found an article about the Columbine Massacre RPG. I was up all night playing it until about 6am. I went to bed and had to wake up at 8am for school Anyways, I got to school early and I had a current event due... Of course, I find this massacre added to CNN.

 

 

 

Is this all a coincidence or is something going on? That's 3 times in a row within a span of a week of researching any massacre... I'm kind of creeped out.

 

 

 

No dude, it's totally you who's making these things happen.

 

 

 

It's not the lenient gun control laws, nor the mentally unstable kids with said guns -- heck, not even video games. It's a random guy on the internet who's reading wikipedia articles.

 

 

 

Jesus christ I hope you're high on something.

Holy crap....

 

 

 

Guys. Bear with me, but I think I am either making these happen or it's 3 coincidences in a row...

 

 

 

Ok, so my teacher was talking about Columbine in class a couple years ago. I decided to go home and research it. I learned basically all I could and I watched all the videos I could find. I even showed my sister them. The next week, a kid at my sister's school brought a gun and shot 2 kids.

 

 

 

Last year, I decided to write a report on school violence for my English Research project. I stayed up all night learning about massacres from the "Bath Elementary School Massacre" to the "Red Lake High School Massacre".

 

The next day I walk into science class and my teacher tells us about Seung-Hui Cho.

 

 

 

Last night... I was researching Columbine and found an article about the Columbine Massacre RPG. I was up all night playing it until about 6am. I went to bed and had to wake up at 8am for school Anyways, I got to school early and I had a current event due... Of course, I find this massacre added to CNN.

 

 

 

Is this all a coincidence or is something going on? That's 3 times in a row within a span of a week of researching any massacre... I'm kind of creeped out.

 

 

 

No dude, it's totally you who's making these things happen.

 

 

 

It's not the lenient gun control laws, nor the mentally unstable kids with said guns -- heck, not even video games. It's a random guy on the internet who's reading wikipedia articles.

 

 

 

Jesus christ I hope you're high on something.

 

 

 

 

 

I was just saying. No need to get temperamental.

 

 

 

But I know the whole gun control thing is to blame, but I am talking about the 3 coincidences. I think it's weird.

 

 

 

And in response to your drug affiliated comment, as an actor once said:

 

 

 

"Are you on drugs?" <- Transformers

 

 

 

Also, I stay away from Wikipedia. I look for other sites/books/movies to get my information. Also, you deliberately missed my entire post, as I had stated:

 

 

 

"Guys. Bear with me, but I think I am either making these happen or it's 3 coincidences in a row..."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, your post could've been like:

 

 

 

"Hmm, very peculiar.

 

 

 

I find it strange that these all happened right after you researched something, but it isn't you, lol.

 

 

 

It seems it must be a coincidence."

 

 

 

Much better then a flamming. :

Yeah, but implying that it has something to do with you and your research on these things is pretty silly.

 

 

 

Anyway, this is really unfortunate, and the first time I've heard of this happening in Europe, though it's still a rarity there compared to America. I really hope Jack Thompson doesn't try pull his [cabbage] on this one.

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

 

 

Just read the "Hate & Love" document.

 

 

 

What do I love / what do I like?

 

Existentialism, self-awareness, freedom, justice, truth, moral & political philosophy, personal & social psychology, evolution science, political incorrectness, guns, shooting, BDSM, computers, internet, aggressive electronic and industrial rock & metal music, violent movies, , FPS ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâcomputer games, sarcasm, irony, black humour, macabre artm mass & serial killer cases, natural disasters, eugenics

 

 

 

Wonderful - here comes the accusations of games and music being responsible.

Just read the "Hate & Love" document.

 

 

 

What do I love / what do I like?

 

Existentialism, self-awareness, freedom, justice, truth, moral & political philosophy, personal & social psychology, evolution science, political incorrectness, guns, shooting, BDSM, computers, internet, aggressive electronic and industrial rock & metal music, violent movies, , FPS ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâcomputer games, sarcasm, irony, black humour, macabre artm mass & serial killer cases, natural disasters, eugenics

 

 

 

Wonderful - here comes the accusations of games and music being responsible.

 

Heh read his manifesto

 

And remember that this is my war, my ideas and my plans. DonÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t blame anyone else for my actions than myself. DonÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t blame my parents or my friends. I told nobody about my plans and I always kept them inside my mind only. DonÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t blame the movies I see, the music I hear, the games I play or the books I read. No, they had nothing to do with this. This is my war: one man war against humanity, governments and weak-minded masses of the world! No mercy for the scum of the earth!

 

 

 

He has died from his injuries now anyway.

 

 

 

I know he has tried to explain it, but what must have been going through this kid's mind to go that far? I don't understand it.

Just read the "Hate & Love" document.

 

 

 

What do I love / what do I like?

 

Existentialism, self-awareness, freedom, justice, truth, moral & political philosophy, personal & social psychology, evolution science, political incorrectness, guns, shooting, BDSM, computers, internet, aggressive electronic and industrial rock & metal music, violent movies, , FPS ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâcomputer games, sarcasm, irony, black humour, macabre artm mass & serial killer cases, natural disasters, eugenics

 

 

 

Wonderful - here comes the accusations of games and music being responsible.

 

Heh read his manifesto

 

And remember that this is my war, my ideas and my plans. DonÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t blame anyone else for my actions than myself. DonÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t blame my parents or my friends. I told nobody about my plans and I always kept them inside my mind only. DonÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t blame the movies I see, the music I hear, the games I play or the books I read. No, they had nothing to do with this. This is my war: one man war against humanity, governments and weak-minded masses of the world! No mercy for the scum of the earth!

 

 

 

He has died from his injuries now anyway.

 

 

 

I know he has tried to explain it, but what must have been going through this kid's mind to go that far? I don't understand it.

 

 

 

Even with his manifesto (and I'm glad he accepted responsibility), it's still going to add more fuel to the fire for the anti-game/anti-music/anti-anything lobbyists.

 

 

 

Evidently he had a great deal of misanthropy - much stronger than any I've encountered, held or heard of myself.