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Why are their no noticeable humans/apes that are still in the stage of evolution?

 

 

 

Evolution isn't one stage of change, evolution is a constant and the human race even continues to evolve, we've become taller and unfortunately more susceptible to disease as we've evolved for the modern world.

 

 

 

Not sure about the taller thing, but yes, more susceptible to disaease. Allergies in particular are a great example. Remember that evolution takes thousands of years plus, so a noticeable physical change could take a very long period of time. Vestigal organs{like muscles attached to the ear(they do not develop enough to be of use as in other primates), and the tailbone }and dormant DNA is yet another example; some instances of these have been nearly eradicated, but some humans can actually grow tails, albeit it's very rare. Toes are some of the more recent physical changes in humans.

 

 

 

Saruman, answer the question. Do you believe the earth is circa 10,000 years old.

 

 

 

First of all, answer my post. Second, what's the question? I was just commenting on how there were giants back then. I mean, if you mean time, then yes, I do.

 

 

 

How can you just "beleive" something still when it has been proven wrong so many times?

 

 

 

 

 

Because while yes, there are some scientists who say that carbon dating is reliable, many also differ. I for one, am not sure. But I'mstill deciding. And to be quite honest, I'm not sure how old the Earth is, some Christians say 4k, others 10k, others billions of years. All I believe is that it's not even a million years old, but am not quite sure how much.

 

 

 

 

 

And Tryto, I wasn't talking about Noah, just Mount Arafat.

 

 

 

It's also funny how no one is commenting on my post. :-k (the one about the parable.)

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I'd disagree fundamentally with that, but yes, it can be a weak argument. I don't use it, unless replying to someone.

 

 

 

Genesis 3:8: Then the man and the wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden...

 

 

 

He can be both material and immaterial, it seems :P.

 

 

 

That doesn't prove he is material.

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I'd disagree fundamentally with that, but yes, it can be a weak argument. I don't use it, unless replying to someone.

 

 

 

Genesis 3:8: Then the man and the wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden...

 

 

 

He can be both material and immaterial, it seems :P.

 

 

 

That doesn't prove he is material.

 

 

 

If he was immaterial, how could they hear him, and why would he be walking?

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Why are their no noticeable humans/apes that are still in the stage of evolution?

 

 

 

Evolution isn't one stage of change, evolution is a constant and the human race even continues to evolve, we've become taller and unfortunately more susceptible to disease as we've evolved for the modern world.

 

 

 

Not sure about the taller thing, but yes, more susceptible to disaease. Allergies in particular are a great example. Remember that evolution takes thousands of years plus, so a noticeable physical change could take a very long period of time. Vestigal organs{like muscles attached to the ear(they do not develop enough to be of use as in other primates), and the tailbone }and dormant DNA is yet another example; some instances of these have been nearly eradicated, but some humans can actually grow tails, albeit it's very rare. Toes are some of the more recent physical changes in humans.

 

 

 

Saruman, answer the question. Do you believe the earth is circa 10,000 years old.

 

 

 

First of all, answer my post. Second, what's the question? I was just commenting on how there were giants back then. I mean, if you mean time, then yes, I do.

 

 

 

How can you just "beleive" something still when it has been proven wrong so many times?

 

 

 

 

 

Because while yes, there are some scientists who say that carbon dating is reliable, many also differ. I for one, am not sure. But I'mstill deciding. And to be quite honest, I'm not sure how old the Earth is, some Christians say 4k, others 10k, others billions of years. All I believe is that it's not even a million years old, but am not quite sure how much.

 

 

 

 

 

And Tryto, I wasn't talking about Noah, just Mount Arafat.

 

 

 

It's also funny how no one is commenting on my post. :-k (the one about the parable.)

 

 

 

I know, but I couldn't find anything BUT Noah stuff. You didn't say anything about Noah, I know. I just couldn't find ANYTHING about it :P

 

 

 

I find the Christian method of finding answers is the opposite of the correct scientific method.

 

Christians believe they already have all the answers in the bible. They start with the conclusion, then find things to support it.

 

 

 

You believe that the universe is only a million years old.

 

 

 

In recent years, SCUBA has also found distant galaxies full of dust, more than ten billion light years from Earth. The light from them has taken so long to reach us that we are seeing them as they were when the universe was only about one billion years old - less than one tenth of its current age.

 

 

 

Are all these atheist scientists lying to you? Are several different methods of finding age from fossils wrong, even though they are all independent and agree with each other? Did the devil put them there? Did God put them there to test your faith?

 

 

 

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html

 

http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/geotime/age.html

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

 

 

 

What do you say to that?

 

 

 

@Sly: What do we need to do to prove he is material? Find a quote from the Bible saying he is material outright? It's just plain not falsifiable. (And I was referring to the fact that in other places he is immaterial, yet is said to be everywhere and stays in one spot in the Bible. It was written by many authors, and barely any of them agree, lol )

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Well, some Christians use the Bible for everything. Others use Biblical properties for the answers, and others ask God. I for one, don't use the Bible that much, but rely more on God. And as I said, I'm not quite sure of how old it is, just not that old. And I'll say it right out, I can't explain the galaxies full of dust. And I never said the Atheistic scientists lied, they're simply, in my view, misinformed.

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There is no god >.>

 

 

 

What's stupid with the concept of god is the belief that some sort of almightly being exists and rules over everything. It's like saying "Geez, I wish there was some dude out there who I could be the slave of for all eternity!". Christians strike me as people who want to be dominated. If there was a god, I'd get an army of strong souls and kick his [wagon] till he dies, so that all souls could be equal. So yeah, he doesn't exist, but if he did, we'd need to kill that pervert jerk's butt.

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Here's a question I'd really like answered:

 

 

 

Why do some Christians think it's ok to pick and choose what actually happened and what is just a morally rich story out of the Bible? Why are some stories to be taken as fact, and some just for their moral value?

 

 

 

How about another question?:

 

 

 

Why is it that regaurdless of how much evidence is presented we still cling to the fairytale that the Earth is ~6000 years old, or under a million years old? Why is it that in spite of strong evidence to the contrary, we still tend to believe the myth? Is it just because it's comforting?

 

 

 

And a third question?:

 

 

 

Can anyone answer the Epicurus question?

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Why do some Christians think it's ok to pick and choose what actually happened and what is just a morally rich story out of the Bible? Why are some stories to be taken as fact, and some just for their moral value?

 

 

 

Because the Bible contradicts itself so many times that to save themselves (their religion) they bend their rules whenever they feel like it just to make things fit.

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Why do some Christians think it's ok to pick and choose what actually happened and what is just a morally rich story out of the Bible? Why are some stories to be taken as fact, and some just for their moral value?

 

 

 

Because the Bible contradicts itself so many times that to save themselves (their religion) they bend their rules whenever they feel like it just to make things fit.

 

 

 

 

 

:lol: :lol:

 

 

 

And too NoMoreDead:

 

 

 

It is quite obvious what are parables and what aren't. You don't have to be a Christian to figure it out.

 

 

 

NoMoreDead, I answered this already, Carbon Dating isn't 100% reliable, it is sometimes, but not always. Also, there is evidence to support it being under one million years.

 

 

 

Lastly, I answered the Epicurus question.

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Saruman, there is more to Radiometric dating than just Carbon-14 dating, in particular you might want to look at Uranium-Lead dating.

 

What evidence do you have for it being under a million years old?

 

You go by god? So god talks to you then?

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And to Sly_Wizard, isn't saying that God is non-corporeal just a little convenient? It's just saying, that someone can put something somewhere and then just not "be" anymore. It is, again, trying to answer the BIG questions by putting in some abstract answer that, however hard you try, is impossible to prove right or wrong.

 

 

 

Because you happen to disagree with what very nearly each religion has to say on the nature of God is of no importance to me. Simply know that you don't get to redefine what each one says because you don't like it. And, no, it's not "convenient" by any sense of the word.

 

 

 

If he was immaterial, how could they hear him, and why would he be walking?

 

 

 

You seem to not understand what immaterial means. It simply means without form or not made of matter. Being able to hear the voice of God does not mean he's material.

 

 

 

Because the Bible contradicts itself so many times that to save themselves (their religion) they bend their rules whenever they feel like it just to make things fit.

 

 

 

Oh, please do enlighten me.

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If he was immaterial, how could they hear him, and why would he be walking?

 

 

 

You seem to not understand what immaterial means. It simply means without form or not made of matter. Being able to hear the voice of God does not mean he's material.

 

 

 

"The voice of God..." :roll:

 

 

 

What exactly is that? A being not made of matter cannot emit a sound. Thus you are either being spiritual or just... well, religious I guess. I find it impossible to beleive that God can not have a form and not be made of matter - i.e not exist - yet still actually exist and be able to be heard. But then again I'm not religious, so you can go on talking all that stuff at me all day and unless you can scientifically prove that it's possible then I'm just going to go on thinking that you're talking a load of crap.

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Because the Bible contradicts itself so many times that to save themselves (their religion) they bend their rules whenever they feel like it just to make things fit.

 

 

 

Oh, please do enlighten me.

 

If you mean show you proof(not sure tbh)

 

 

 

 

[hide=Very long list of contradictions]1. God is satisfied with his works

 

Gen 1:31

 

God is dissatisfied with his works.

 

Gen 6:6

 

2. God dwells in chosen temples

 

2 Chron 7:12,16

 

God dwells not in temples

 

Acts 7:48

 

3. God dwells in light

 

Tim 6:16

 

God dwells in darkness

 

1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2

 

4. God is seen and heard

 

Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/

 

Ex 24:9-11

 

God is invisible and cannot be heard

 

John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16

 

5. God is tired and rests

 

Ex 31:17

 

God is never tired and never rests

 

Is 40:28

 

6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things

 

Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21

 

God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all

 

things

 

Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8

 

7. God knows the hearts of men

 

Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3

 

God tries men to find out what is in their heart

 

Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12

 

8. God is all powerful

 

Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26

 

God is not all powerful

 

Judg 1:19

 

9. God is unchangeable

 

James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/ Num 23:19

 

God is changeable

 

Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam 2:30,31/ 2 Kings 20:1,4,5,6/

 

Ex 33:1,3,17,14

 

10. God is just and impartial

 

Ps 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/ Rom 2:11/ Ezek 18:25

 

God is unjust and partial

 

Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom 9:11-13/ Matt 13:12

 

11. God is the author of evil

 

Lam 3:38/ Jer 18:11/ Is 45:7/ Amos 3:6/ Ezek 20:25

 

God is not the author of evil

 

1 Cor 14:33/ Deut 32:4/ James 1:13

 

12. God gives freely to those who ask

 

James 1:5/ Luke 11:10

 

God withholds his blessings and prevents men from receiving

 

them

 

John 12:40/ Josh 11:20/ Is 63:17

 

13. God is to be found by those who seek him

 

Matt 7:8/ Prov 8:17

 

God is not to be found by those who seek him

 

Prov 1:28

 

14. God is warlike

 

Ex 15:3/ Is 51:15

 

God is peaceful

 

Rom 15:33/ 1 Cor 14:33

 

15. God is cruel, unmerciful, destructive, and ferocious

 

Jer 13:14/ Deut 7:16/ 1 Sam 15:2,3/ 1 Sam 6:19

 

God is kind, merciful, and good

 

James 5:11/ Lam 3:33/ 1 Chron 16:34/ Ezek 18:32/ Ps 145:9/

 

1 Tim 2:4/ 1 John 4:16/ Ps 25:8

 

16. God's anger is fierce and endures long

 

Num 32:13/ Num 25:4/ Jer 17:4

 

God's anger is slow and endures but for a minute

 

Ps 103:8/ Ps 30:5

 

17. God commands, approves of, and delights in burnt offerings,

 

sacrifices ,and holy days

 

Ex 29:36/ Lev 23:27/ Ex 29:18/ Lev 1:9

 

God disapproves of and has no pleasure in burnt offerings,

 

sacrifices, and holy days.

 

Jer 7:22/ Jer 6:20/ Ps 50:13,4/ Is 1:13,11,12

 

18. God accepts human sacrifices

 

2 Sam 21:8,9,14/ Gen 22:2/ Judg 11:30-32,34,38,39

 

God forbids human sacrifice

 

Deut 12:30,31

 

19. God tempts men

 

Gen 22:1/ 2 Sam 24:1/ Jer 20:7/ Matt 6:13

 

God tempts no man

 

James 1:13

 

20. God cannot lie

 

Heb 6:18

 

God lies by proxy; he sends forth lying spirits to deceive

 

2 Thes 2:11/ 1 Kings 22:23/ Ezek 14:9

 

21. Because of man's wickedness God destroys him

 

Gen 6:5,7

 

Because of man's wickedness God will not destroy him

 

Gen 8:21

 

22. God's attributes are revealed in his works.

 

Rom 1:20

 

God's attributes cannot be discovered

 

Job 11:7/ Is 40:28

 

23. There is but one God

 

Deut 6:4

 

There is a plurality of gods

 

Gen 1:26/ Gen 3:22/ Gen 18:1-3/ 1 John 5:7

 

 

 

 

 

Moral Precepts

 

 

 

24. Robbery commanded

 

Ex 3:21,22/ Ex 12:35,36

 

Robbery forbidden

 

Lev 19:13/ Ex 20:15

 

25. Lying approved and sanctioned

 

Josh 2:4-6/ James 2:25/ Ex 1:18-20/ 1 Kings 22:21,22

 

Lying forbidden

 

Ex 20:16/ Prov 12:22/ Rev 21:8

 

26. Hatred to the Edomite sanctioned

 

2 Kings 14:7,3

 

Hatred to the Edomite forbidden

 

Deut 23:7

 

27. Killing commanded

 

Ex 32:27

 

Killing forbidden

 

Ex 20:13

 

28. The blood-shedder must die

 

Gen 9:5,6

 

The blood-shedder must not die

 

Gen 4:15

 

29. The making of images forbidden

 

Ex 20:4

 

The making of images commanded

 

Ex 25:18,20

 

30. Slavery and oppression ordained

 

Gen 9:25/ Lev 25:45,46/ Joel 3:8

 

Slavery and oppression forbidden

 

Is 58:6/ Ex 22:21/ Ex 21:16/ Matt 23:10

 

31. Improvidence enjoyed

 

Matt 6:28,31,34/ Luke 6:30,35/ Luke 12:3

 

Improvidence condemned

 

1 Tim 5:8/ Prov 13:22

 

32. Anger approved

 

Eph 4:26

 

Anger disapproved

 

Eccl 7:9/ Prov 22:24/ James 1:20

 

33. Good works to be seen of men

 

Matt 5:16

 

Good works not to be seen of men

 

Matt 6:1

 

34. Judging of others forbidden

 

Matt 7:1,2

 

Judging of others approved

 

1 Cor 6:2-4/ 1 Cor 5:12

 

35. Christ taught non-resistance

 

Matt 5:39/ Matt 26:52

 

Christ taught and practiced physical resistance

 

Luke 22:36/ John 2:15

 

36. Christ warned his followers not to fear being killed

 

Luke 12:4

 

Christ himself avoided the Jews for fear of being killed

 

John 7:1

 

37. Public prayer sanctioned

 

1 Kings 8:22,54, 9:3

 

Public prayer disapproved

 

Matt 6:5,6

 

38. Importunity in prayer commended

 

Luke 18:5,7

 

Importunity in prayer condemned

 

Matt 6:7,8

 

39. The wearing of long hair by men sanctioned

 

Judg 13:5/ Num 6:5

 

The wearing of long hair by men condemned

 

1 Cor 11:14

 

40. Circumcision instituted

 

Gen 17:10

 

Circumcision condemned

 

Gal 5:2

 

41. The Sabbath instituted

 

Ex 20:8

 

The Sabbath repudiated

 

Is 1:13/ Rom 14:5/ Col 2:16

 

42. The Sabbath instituted because God rested on the seventh day

 

Ex 20:11

 

The Sabbath instituted because God brought the Israelites

 

out of Egypt

 

Deut 5:15

 

43. No work to be done on the Sabbath under penalty of death

 

Ex 31:15/ Num 15:32,36

 

Jesus Christ broke the Sabbath and justified his disciples in

 

the same

 

John 5:16/ Matt 12:1-3,5

 

44. Baptism commanded

 

Matt 28:19

 

Baptism not commanded

 

1 Cor 1:17,14

 

45. Every kind of animal allowed for food.

 

Gen 9:3/ 1 Cor 10:25/ Rom 14:14

 

Certain kinds of animals prohibited for food.

 

Deut 14:7,8

 

46. Taking of oaths sanctioned

 

Num 30:2/ Gen 21:23-24,31/ Gen 31:53/ Heb 6:13

 

Taking of oaths forbidden

 

Matt 5:34

 

47. Marriage approved

 

Gen 2:18/ Gen 1:28/ Matt 19:5/ Heb 13:4

 

Marriage disapproved

 

1 Cor 7:1/ 1 Cor 7:7,8

 

48. Freedom of divorce permitted

 

Deut 24:1/ Deut 21:10,11,14

 

Divorce restricted

 

Matt 5:32

 

49. Adultery forbidden

 

Ex 20:14/ Heb 13:4

 

Adultery allowed

 

Num 31:18/ Hos 1:2; 2:1-3

 

50. Marriage or cohabitation with a sister denounced

 

Deut 27:22/ Lev 20:17

 

Abraham married his sister and God blessed the union

 

Gen 20:11,12/ Gen 17:16

 

51. A man may marry his brother's widow

 

Deut 25:5

 

A man may not marry his brother's widow

 

Lev 20:21

 

52. Hatred to kindred enjoined

 

Luke 14:26

 

Hatred to kindred condemned

 

Eph 6:2/ Eph 5:25,29

 

53. Intoxicating beverages recommended

 

Prov 31:6,7/ 1 Tim 5:23/ Ps 104:15

 

Intoxicating beverages discountenanced

 

Prov 20:1/ Prov 23:31,32

 

54. It is our duty to obey our rulers, who are God's ministers

 

and punish evil doers only

 

Rom 13:1-3,6

 

It is not our duty to obey rulers, who sometimes punish the

 

good and receive unto themselves damnation therefor

 

Ex 1:17,20/ Dan 3:16,18/ Dan 6:9,7,10/ Acts 4:26,27/

 

Mark 12:38,39,40/ Luke 23:11,24,33,35

 

55. Women's rights denied

 

Gen 3:16/ 1 Tim 2:12/ 1 Cor 14:34/ 1 Pet 3:6

 

Women's rights affirmed

 

Judg 4:4,14,15/ Judg 5:7/ Acts 2:18/ Acts 21:9

 

56. Obedience to masters enjoined

 

Col 3:22,23/ 1 Pet 2:18

 

Obedience due to God only

 

Matt 4:10/ 1 Cor 7:23/ Matt 23:10

 

57. There is an unpardonable sin

 

Mark 3:29

 

There is not unpardonable sin

 

Acts 13:39

 

 

 

 

 

Historical Facts

 

 

 

58. Man was created after the other animals

 

Gen 1:25,26,27

 

Man was created before the other animals

 

Gen 2:18,19

 

59. Seed time and harvest were never to cease

 

Gen 8:22

 

Seed time and harvest did cease for seven years

 

Gen 41:54,56/ Gen 45:6

 

60. God hardened Pharaoh's heart

 

Ex 4:21/ Ed 9:12

 

Pharaoh hardened his own heart

 

Ex 8:15

 

61. All the cattle and horses in Egypt died

 

Ex 9:3,6/ 14:9

 

All the horses of Egypt did not die

 

Ex 14:9

 

62. Moses feared Pharaoh

 

Ex 2:14,15,23; 4:19

 

Moses did not fear Pharaoh

 

Heb 11:27

 

63. There died of the plague twenty-four thousand

 

Num 25:9

 

There died of the plague but twenty-three thousand

 

1 Cor 10:8

 

64. John the Baptist was Elias

 

Matt 11:14

 

John the Baptist was not Elias

 

John 1:21

 

65. The father of Joseph, Mary's husband was Jacob

 

Matt 1:16

 

The father of Mary's husband was Heli

 

Luke 3:23

 

66. The father of Salah was Arphaxad

 

Gen 11:12

 

The father of Salah was Cainan

 

Luke 3:35,36

 

67. There were fourteen generations from Abraham to David

 

Matt 1:17

 

There were but thirteen generations from Abraham to David

 

Matt 1:2-6

 

68. There were fourteen generations from the Babylonian captivity

 

to Christ.

 

Matt 1:17

 

There were but thirteen generations from the Babylonian

 

captivity to Christ

 

Matt 1:12-16

 

69. The infant Christ was taken into Egypt

 

Matt 2:14,15,19,21,23

 

The infant Christ was not taken into Egypt

 

Luke 2:22, 39

 

70. Christ was tempted in the wilderness

 

Mark 1:12,13

 

Christ was not tempted in the wilderness

 

John 2:1,2

 

71. Christ preached his first sermon on the mount

 

Matt 5:1,2

 

Christ preached his first sermon on the plain

 

Luke 6:17,20

 

72. John was in prison when Jesus went into Galilee

 

Mark 1:14

 

John was not in prison when Jesus went into Galilee

 

John 1:43/ John 3:22-24

 

73. Christ's disciples were commanded to go forth with a staff

 

and sandals

 

Mark 6:8,9

 

Christ's disciples were commanded to go forth with neither

 

staffs nor sandals.

 

Matt 10:9,10

 

74. A woman of Canaan besought Jesus

 

Matt 15:22

 

It was a Greek woman who besought Him

 

Mark 7:26

 

75. Two blind men besought Jesus

 

Matt 20:30

 

Only one blind man besought Him

 

Luke 18:35,38

 

76. Christ was crucified at the third hour

 

Mark 15:25

 

Christ was not crucified until the sixth hour

 

John 19:14,15

 

77. The two thieves reviled Christ.

 

Matt 27:44/ Mark 15:32

 

Only one of the thieves reviled Christ

 

Luke 23:39,40

 

78. Satan entered into Judas while at supper

 

John 13:27

 

Satan entered into him before the supper

 

Luke 22:3,4,7

 

79. Judas committed suicide by hanging

 

Matt 27:5

 

Judas did not hang himself, but died another way

 

Acts 1:18

 

80. The potter's field was purchased by Judas

 

Acts 1:18

 

The potter's field was purchased by the Chief Priests

 

Matt 27:6,7

 

81. There was but one woman who came to the sepulchre

 

John 20:1

 

There were two women who came to the sepulchre

 

Matt 28:1

 

82. There were three women who came to the sepulchre

 

Mark 16:1

 

There were more than three women who came to the sepulchre

 

Luke 24:10

 

83. It was at sunrise when they came to the sepulchre

 

Mark 16:2

 

It was some time before sunrise when they came.

 

John 20:1

 

84. There were two angels seen by the women at the sepulchre, and

 

they were standing up.

 

Luke 24:4

 

There was but one angel seen, and he was sitting down.

 

Matt 28:2,5

 

85. There were two angels seen within the sepulchre.

 

John 20:11,12

 

There was but one angel seen within the sepulchre

 

Mark 16:5

 

86. Christ was to be three days and three nights in the grave

 

Matt 12:40

 

Christ was but two days and two nights in the grave

 

Mark 15:25,42,44,45,46; 16:9>

 

87. Holy ghost bestowed at pentecost

 

Acts 1:8,5

 

Holy ghost bestowed before pentecost

 

John 20:22

 

88. The disciples were commanded immediately after the

 

resurrection to go into Galilee

 

Matt 28:10

 

The disciples were commanded immediately after the

 

resurrection to go tarry at Jerusalem

 

Luke 24:49

 

89. Jesus first appeared to the eleven disciples in a room at

 

Jerusalem

 

Luke 24:33,36,37/ John 20:19

 

Jesus first appeared to the eleven on a mountain in Galilee

 

Matt 28:16,17

 

90. Christ ascended from Mount Olivet

 

Acts 1:9,12

 

Christ ascended from Bethany

 

Luke 24:50,51

 

91. Paul's attendants heard the miraculous voice, and stood

 

speechless

 

Acts 9:7

 

Paul's attendants heard not the voice and were prostrate

 

Acts 26:14

 

92. Abraham departed to go into Canaan

 

Gen 12:5

 

Abraham went not knowing where

 

Heb 11:8

 

93. Abraham had two sons

 

Gal 4:22

 

Abraham had but one son

 

Heb 11:17

 

94. Keturah was Abraham's wife

 

Gen 25:1

 

Keturah was Abraham's concubine

 

1 Chron 1:32

 

95. Abraham begat a son when he was a hundred years old, by the

 

interposition of Providence

 

Gen 21:2/ Rom 4:19/ Heb 11:12

 

Abraham begat six children more after he was a hundred years

 

old without any interposition of providence

 

Gen 25:1,2

 

96. Jacob bought a sepulchre from Hamor

 

Josh 24:32

 

Abraham bought it of Hamor

 

Acts 7:16

 

97. God promised the land of Canaan to Abraham and his seed

 

forever

 

Gen 13:14,15,17; 17:8

 

Abraham and his seed never received the promised land

 

Acts 7:5/ Heb 11:9,13

 

98. Goliath was slain by Elhanan

 

2 Sam 21:19 *note, was changed in translation to be

 

correct. Original manuscript was incorrect>

 

The brother of Goliath was slain by Elhanan

 

1 Chron 20:5

 

99. Ahaziah began to reign in the twelfth year of Joram

 

2 Kings 8:25

 

Ahaziah began to reign in the eleventh year of Joram

 

2 Kings 9:29

 

100. Michal had no child

 

2 Sam 6:23

 

Michal had five children

 

 

 

Think not that I come to send peace on earth: I came not to send

 

peace, but a sword.

 

- Matthew 10:34

 

 

 

... all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

 

- Matthew 26:52

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For wrath killeth the foolish man...

 

- Job 5:2

 

 

 

... let not the sun go down on your wrath.

 

- Ephesians 4:26

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And no man hath ascended up to heaven, even the Son of man which

 

is in heaven.

 

- John 3:13

 

 

 

... and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

 

- 2 Kings 2:11

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

 

- John 5:31

 

 

 

I am one that bear witness of myself...

 

- John 8:18

 

[Jesus was the speaker in both of these quotes]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children...

 

- Proverbs 13:22

 

 

 

Sell that ye have and give alms...

 

- Luke 12:33

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Blessed is the man that feareth the Lord... Wealth and riches

 

shall be in his house...

 

- Psalms 112:1-3

 

 

 

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than

 

for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.

 

- Matthew 19:24

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I and my father are one.

 

- John 10:30

 

 

 

... I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

 

- John 14:28

 

[Jesus was the speaker in both of these quotes]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thou shalt not kill

 

- Exodus 20:13

 

 

 

Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his

 

side... and slay every man his brother...

 

- Exodus 32:27

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy.

 

- Exodus 20:8

 

 

 

The new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot

 

away with: it is iniquity.

 

- Isaiah 3:22

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness

 

of anything that is in heaven... earth... [or] water.

 

- Leviticus 26:11

 

 

 

And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt

 

thou make them.

 

- Exodus 25:18

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For by grace are ye saved through faith... not of works.

 

- Ephesians 2:8-9

 

 

 

Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by

 

faith only.

 

- James 2:24

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

God is not a man, that he should lie: neither the son of man,

 

that he should repent.

 

- Numbers 23:19

 

 

 

And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his

 

people.

 

- Exodus 32:14

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

... the hour is coming, in which all that are in the graves shall

 

hear his voice, and come forth...

 

- John 5:28-29

 

 

 

As the cloud is consumed and vanisheth away: so he that goeth

 

down to the grave shall come up no more.

 

- Job 7:9

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

... thou shalt give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth,

 

hand for hand, foot for foot, burning for burning, wound for

 

wound, stripe for stripe.

 

- Exodus 21:23-25

 

 

 

... resist not evil; but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right

 

cheek, turn to him the other also.

 

- Matthew 5:39

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Honor thy father and mother.

 

- Exodus 20:12

 

 

 

If any man come to me, and hate not his father and mother, and

 

wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own

 

life also, he cannot be my disciple.

 

- Luke 14:26

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lay not up for yourself treasures upon the earth...

 

- Matthew 6:19

 

 

 

In the house of the righteous is much treasure...

 

- Proverbs 15:6

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

 

- Genesis 32:30

 

 

 

No man hath seen God at any time.

 

- John 1:18

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father.

 

- Ezekiel 18:20

 

 

 

... I the lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of

 

the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth

 

generation.

 

- Exodus 20:5

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth

 

understanding.

 

- Proverbs 3:13

 

 

 

For in much wisdom is much grief; and he that increaseth

 

knowledge increaseth sorrow.

 

- Ecclesiastes 1:18

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Lord is good to all.

 

- Psalm 145:6

 

 

 

I make peace and create evil. I the Lord do all these things.

 

- Isaiah 45:7

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whosoever shall say Thou fool, shall be in danger of hellfire.

 

- Matthew 5:22

 

 

 

[Jesus said] Ye fools and blind.

 

- Matthew 23:17

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For all have sinned.

 

- Romans 3:23

 

 

 

There was a man... whose name was Job; and that man was perfect

 

and upright.

 

- Job 1:1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign.

 

- 2 Kings 8:26

 

 

 

Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign.

 

- 2 Chronicles 22:2

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If a man vow a vow unto the Lord or swear an oath... he shall do

 

according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.

 

- Numbers 30:2

 

 

 

But I say unto you, swear not at all; neither by heaven... nor by

 

earth.

 

- Matthew 5:34-35

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

... the earth abideth forever.

 

- Ecclesiastes 1:4

 

 

 

... the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and

 

the works that are therein shall be burned up.

 

- 2 Peter 3:10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

... for I am merciful, saith the Lord, and I will not keep anger

 

forever.

 

- Jeremiah 3:12

 

 

 

Ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn forever.

 

- Jeremiah 17:4

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

... God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man.

 

- James 1:13

 

 

 

And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt

 

Abraham.

 

- Genesis 22:1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And God saw everything that he made, and behold it was very good.

 

- Genesis 1:31

 

 

 

And it repented the Lord that he had made man on earth, and it

 

grieved him at his heart

 

- Genesis 6:6

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For now have I chosen and sanctified this house that my name be

 

there forever; and mine eyes and my heart shall be there

 

perpetually.

 

- II Chronicles 7:16

 

 

 

Howbeit the most high dwelleth not in temples made with hands.

 

- Acts 7:48

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[God dwells] in the light which no man can approach unto.

 

- I Timothy 6:16

 

 

 

The Lord said that he would dwell in the thick darkness.

 

 

 

- I Kings 8:12

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And the Lord called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

 

And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid.

 

- Genesis 3:9,10

 

 

 

Ye hath neither heard his voice, at any time, nor seen his shape.

 

- John 5:37

 

 

 

 

 

God is not the author of confusion.

 

- I Corinthians 24:33

 

 

 

Out of the mouth of the most high proceedeth not evil and good?

 

- Lamentations 3:38

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Those that seek me early shall find me.

 

- Proverbs 8:17

 

 

 

Then shall they call upon me but I will not answer; they shall

 

seek me early, but shall not find me.

 

- Proverbs 1:28

 

 

 

Then went up Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the

 

elders of Israel. And they saw the God of Israel... They saw

 

God, and did eat and drink.

 

- Exodus 24: 9-11

 

 

 

Whom no man hath seen nor can see.

 

- I Timothy 6:16

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

With God all things are possible.

 

- Matthew 29:26

 

 

 

And the Lord was with Judah, and he drove out the inhabitants of

 

the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the

 

valley, because they had chariots of iron.

 

- Judges 1:19[/hide]

 

 

 

That's just a sampling, some are weaker than others, and some are stronger. I particularly like the last one :P

 

 

 

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"The voice of God..." :roll:

 

 

 

What exactly is that? A being not made of matter cannot emit a sound.

 

 

 

Good luck backing that statement up, seeing as how sound is not matter.

 

 

 

Thus you are either being spiritual or just... well, religious I guess.

 

 

 

*See above*

 

 

 

I find it impossible to beleive that God can not have a form and not be made of matter - i.e not exist - yet still actually exist and be able to be heard.

 

 

 

*See above the see above*

 

 

 

But then again I'm not religious, so you can go on talking all that stuff at me all day and unless you can scientifically prove that it's possible then I'm just going to go on thinking that you're talking a load of crap.

 

 

 

Follow the directions of the above statements.

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If he was immaterial, how could they hear him, and why would he be walking?

 

 

 

You seem to not understand what immaterial means. It simply means without form or not made of matter. Being able to hear the voice of God does not mean he's material.

 

I'm sorry, was this meant to convince us God actually exists?

 

 

 

I'm gonna ask a straight question. If God was so eager to prove His existence to everyone, then why can I not hear His voice? You'd think with so many doubters, He'd only be too happy to prove to everyone He does exist.

 

 

 

Good luck backing that statement up, seeing as how sound is not matter.

 

Oh come on, you know as well as anyone you need a material object to make a sound.

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"The voice of God..." :roll:

 

 

 

What exactly is that? A being not made of matter cannot emit a sound.

 

 

 

Good luck backing that statement up, seeing as how sound is not matter.

 

 

 

Thus you are either being spiritual or just... well, religious I guess.

 

 

 

*See above*

 

 

 

I find it impossible to beleive that God can not have a form and not be made of matter - i.e not exist - yet still actually exist and be able to be heard.

 

 

 

*See above the see above*

 

 

 

But then again I'm not religious, so you can go on talking all that stuff at me all day and unless you can scientifically prove that it's possible then I'm just going to go on thinking that you're talking a load of crap.

 

 

 

Follow the directions of the above statements.

 

 

 

Have you ever taken a basic science class? Sound is a form of energy, and energy can only be transformed into a different type of energy by matter. Thus, if God is not made of matter he can't emit a sound.

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

If he was immaterial, how could they hear him, and why would he be walking?

 

 

 

You seem to not understand what immaterial means. It simply means without form or not made of matter. Being able to hear the voice of God does not mean he's material.

 

I'm sorry, was this meant to convince us God actually exists?

 

 

 

I'm gonna ask a straight question. If God was so eager to prove His existence to everyone, then why can I not hear His voice? You'd think with so many doubters, He'd only be too happy to prove to everyone He does exist.

 

 

 

Good luck backing that statement up, seeing as how sound is not matter.

 

Oh come on, you know as well as anyone you need a material object to make a sound.

 

 

 

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I'm sorry, was this meant to convince us God actually exists?

 

 

 

It's a response to someone's response?

 

 

 

I'm gonna ask a straight question. If God was so eager to prove His existence to everyone, then why can I not hear His voice? You'd think with so many doubters, He'd only be too happy to prove to everyone He does exist.

 

 

 

Okay. We can play this game. The number of people who claim to have heard God's voice throughout the ages far, far, far, far, far outnumber those who don't. So we can either come to one of three conclusions:

 

 

 

1.) God does indeed exist and talk to everyone, yet there are people who listen or

 

2.) God doesn't exist and a large number of the human population, both past and present, are crazy.

 

 

 

I'll go with option 1, especially considering 100% of the human population has never agreed on anything.

 

 

 

(Granted, it's a bit of a false dilemma, but you get the point.)

 

 

 

Oh come on, you know as well as anyone you need a material object to make a sound.

 

 

 

Once again, good luck backing that statement up.

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No one created God as God is not material. That is, he's non-corporeal.

 

How does this invalidate the need for its creation? How can we with any certainty assert that non-corporeal entities need no creation if we cannot even grasp what they are, or whether they exist?

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I'm sorry, was this meant to convince us God actually exists?

 

 

 

It's a response to someone's response?

 

 

 

I'm gonna ask a straight question. If God was so eager to prove His existence to everyone, then why can I not hear His voice? You'd think with so many doubters, He'd only be too happy to prove to everyone He does exist.

 

 

 

Okay. We can play this game. The number of people who claim to have heard God's voice throughout the ages far, far, far, far, far outnumber those who don't. So we can either come to one of three conclusions:

 

 

 

1.) God does indeed exist and talk to everyone, yet there are people who listen or

 

2.) God doesn't exist and a large number of the human population, both past and present, are crazy.

 

 

 

I'll go with option 1, especially considering 100% of the human population has never agreed on anything.

 

 

 

(Granted, it's a bit of a false dilemma, but you get the point.)

 

 

 

Oh come on, you know as well as anyone you need a material object to make a sound.

 

 

 

Once again, good luck backing that statement up.

 

 

 

Argumentum ad populum

 

Argumentum ad antiquitatem

 

 

 

hmm. Maybe I'll play your fallacy back. The majority of the world doesn't believe in Jesus's divinity. Therefore, he wasn't the son of God. The majority of the world aren't christians, therefore you're wrong. See how stupid an argument that is?

 

 

 

This material object thing is stupendously pointless; if God is as in the Bible and can do anything, of course he can circumvent physical laws and make sounds from immaterial.

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Have you ever taken a basic science class? Sound is a form of energy, and energy can only be transformed into a different type of energy by matter. Thus, if God is not made of matter he can't emit a sound.

 

 

 

And, yet again, either you're being purposefully obtuse or you're simply not understanding what you're being told. So, I'll say this again, "good luck backing that statement up".

 

 

 

(Yeah yeah, I already know what you're response is going to ignore to ignore the part in quotation marks, but here's hoping.)

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How does this invalidate the need for its creation? How can we with any certainty assert that non-corporeal entities need no creation if we cannot even grasp what they are, or whether they exist?

 

 

 

I totally swear we (Well, maybe it wasn't you. It was someone, though) had this argument before.

 

 

 

Speaking only of Christianity here, you don't get to redefine the Bible because you don't agree with it. The assumptions above make things unnecessarily complex, especially considering the fact the last two statements are only debated by the non-religious.

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Have you ever taken a basic science class? Sound is a form of energy, and energy can only be transformed into a different type of energy by matter. Thus, if God is not made of matter he can't emit a sound.

 

 

 

And, yet again, either you're being purposefully obtuse or you're simply not understanding what you're being told. So, I'll say this again, "good luck backing that statement up".

 

 

 

(Yeah yeah, I already know what you're response is going to ignore to ignore the part in quotation marks, but here's hoping.)

 

 

 

Nope actually, I'm going to adress that bit this time: good luck trying to tell me I'm wrong. You haven't disproved what I've said, you've just wished me luck in backing it up, so... thanks... I guess.

 

 

 

The number of people who claim to have heard God's voice throughout the ages far, far, far, far, far outnumber those who don't.

 

Good luck backing that statement up. :lol:

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Okay. We can play this game. The number of people who claim to have heard God's voice throughout the ages far, far, far, far, far outnumber those who don't.

 

 

 

You sure the little voice in our heads isn't just our subconscious?

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