I was looking at some of the stats of some items, specifically some footwear, and I noticed a lil something...

 

 

 

Pretty much all boots have -3 magic and -1 range attack, but its the other stats that are curious to me... I will list form left to right the stats of the boots starting with Stab Slash and Crush defense, followed by Strength bonus and the defense level required is in parantheses...

 

 

 

10 - 11 - 12 - +1 <--- (30) Adamant

 

12 - 13 - 14 - +2 <--- (40) Rune

 

14 - 15 - 16 - +3 <--- (50) Granite*

 

16 - 17 - 18 - +4 <--- (60) Dragon

 

17 - 18 - 19 - +0 <--- (65) Bandos

 

 

 

*Granite boots are worn by Dondakan in the Dwarven Mines of Keldagrim, he wont sell them, even if you offer 25m for them. They are no item in the game but I made a simple suggestion from the data available...

 

 

 

Now its pretty obvious that the boots gradually get increased defense on the melee stats (+1 on all three stats for every 5 defense levels), and also a bonus strength point every 10 defense levels...

 

 

 

Now instead of having a strength bonus, which would be very much in line with the other Bandos equippe (+4 on armor, +2 on legs) by the way, it has NO strength bonus, but is more of a hyped version of the white knight boots, with its 10 more melee defense points and +1 prayer bonus...

 

 

 

I would have expected Bandos Boots to have atleast +4 strength as well...

 

 

 

So what do you think... Someone dropped the ball on this? Is it intentional to make the Dragon Boots not go immediatly into the mothballs? Will they perhaps update it in the future? If so, how far will their price shoot up?

I think your are correct, they didn't have a strenght bonus because that would have destroyed dragon boots.

yay for booties researchers!! I knew I couldnt have been the only one out there. :twisted:

 

 

 

But yes, way back before dragon boots, and even before dark beasts had their dark bow drops, hell might have even been before or right around the time I was getting 90 slayer...

 

 

 

I had a thread on RSOF which was about why we dont have granite boots and dragon boots when every other item falls into those patterns now. (as granite helm and granite body were released earlier that year as well)

 

 

 

I even said that they could give dark beasts that dragon boots drop so as people could finally have a reason to want to get 90 slayer. I think I even threw a barrows boots sugguestion in there since In my post I also related alot of the boots to their RFD glove partners.

 

 

 

However, it appears a few of those came out of the woodwork, nothing really like I planned but hey, we got dragon boots and I dont have to do nechryael tasks anymore so Im happy :lol:

 

 

 

And yes, the bandos boots should have equal to or better strength stats then their dragon boot superiors, seeing as how they appear to come from the "beserker" bandos set / the set with the only str boosting legs in the game...

nice research. Those boots were really a let down

I only saw people using bandos boots when they needed a bandos item for gwd and couldn't afford armor/gs

I only saw people using bandos boots when they needed a bandos item for gwd and couldn't afford armor/gs

 

 

 

ancient mace works the same

I only saw people using bandos boots when they needed a bandos item for gwd and couldn't afford armor/gs

 

 

 

ancient mace works the same

 

 

 

and is free.

yes but people actually use the weapon slot.

yes but people actually use the weapon slot.

 

 

 

+1. You can't just sacrifice a weapon slot just like that. Boot slots, in this situation, are expendable. But a weapon slot isn't.

 

I know that the ancient mace has a useful special, but it isn't exactly what we're looking for in the GWD.

 

 

 

It would be nice if the Bandos boots lived up to the rest of the set as 'berserker armour'. There is no reason for these boots to not have a strength bonus. Ok, maybe +5 str is a bit much because of it's obvious primary function of representing Bandos and to avoid destroying the reputation of dragon boots, so we may need to break the mould, but +4 str will at least make it live up to the rest of the Bandos armour set.

yes but people actually use the weapon slot.

 

 

 

just use it to get kc. Then trade it for something better. IMO: Mace -1 inven space > expensive boots.

They could even have a +2/+3 strength bonus and I reckon they'd get quite a bit of use. People use Fighter Torso for it's strength bonus instead of great defence..I think people would sacrifice slightly less strength (dragon>bandos boots) to have better defence, especially combined with a Fighter Torso.

I'm probally the only one who uses bandos boots over dragon boots :( .

 

 

 

Also bandos boots have a little pray bonus.

everyone has a point. jagex prolly didnt want to kill dragon boots right after release.

 

 

 

BUT..

 

 

 

 

 

...they may add the str bonus later on, just like how rune/addy boots didnt have str bonus b4. who knows, right? tho if that were to happen, all those people that put bandos boots on GE and didnt take it out before update would prolly cry...

everyone has a point. jagex prolly didnt want to kill dragon boots right after release.

 

 

 

BUT..

 

 

 

 

 

...they may add the str bonus later on, just like how rune/addy boots didnt have str bonus b4. who knows, right? tho if that were to happen, all those people that put bandos boots on GE and didnt take it out before update would prolly cry...

 

 

 

 

 

they wont, bandos boots is just that, a copy or similar item to what bandos wore.

 

 

 

however, dragon boots are made of dragon metal. bandos armor however is just his armor, not a metal type. this can be concluded through examine of both boots and the fact that bandos plate will allow for arrow accumulation

 

 

 

for people to expect it to have a strength bonus is natural, but flawed. sure, climbing boots have str bonus but thats a special quest related item, specifically for climbing certain things(which are? i cannot remmeber). and yes i do think dragon would just be how climbing boots were to rune boots when they finally got the +2 str bonus, a cheap alternative. but in this case the +1 def really probably would have a much less signifcant factor then the rune boots vs climbing boots.

I only saw people using bandos boots when they needed a bandos item for gwd and couldn't afford armor/gs

 

 

 

I got bandos boots the first day they were out, just so I could say I've had a bandos item as long as you can have them :-w.

everyone has a point. jagex prolly didnt want to kill dragon boots right after release.

 

 

 

BUT..

 

 

 

 

 

...they may add the str bonus later on, just like how rune/addy boots didnt have str bonus b4. who knows, right? tho if that were to happen, all those people that put bandos boots on GE and didnt take it out before update would prolly cry...

 

 

 

 

 

they wont, bandos boots is just that, a copy or similar item to what bandos wore.

 

 

 

however, dragon boots are made of dragon metal. bandos armor however is just his armor, not a metal type. this can be concluded through examine of both boots and the fact that bandos plate will allow for arrow accumulation

 

 

 

for people to expect it to have a strength bonus is natural, but flawed. sure, climbing boots have str bonus but thats a special quest related item, specifically for climbing certain things(which are? i cannot remmeber). and yes i do think dragon would just be how climbing boots were to rune boots when they finally got the +2 str bonus, a cheap alternative. but in this case the +1 def really probably would have a much less signifcant factor then the rune boots vs climbing boots.

 

 

 

I agree that we shouldn't really be treating Bandos Armour as a metal grade. The chart in the first post is slightly misleading. However, the inconsistency here is that the rest of the Bandos armour provides strength bonuses. Plenty of people wear armoured boots (I know that they did wear them before they got the strength bonus upgrade, but they wear them much more because of the strength improvement) to get a nice little strength bonus as an addition to their armour set, so why is it that a strength focusing portion of a strength focused armour set gets no strength bonus whatsoever? The inconsistency is massive. A +3 or +4 str bonus would make much more sense.

I noticed that there hasn't been any boots in game that give melee offensive bonuses like defender yet, so hopefully jagex may update bandos boots to actually give some instead of the usual str bonus. :-k

everyone has a point. jagex prolly didnt want to kill dragon boots right after release.

 

 

 

BUT..

 

 

 

 

 

...they may add the str bonus later on, just like how rune/addy boots didnt have str bonus b4. who knows, right? tho if that were to happen, all those people that put bandos boots on GE and didnt take it out before update would prolly cry...

 

 

 

 

 

they wont, bandos boots is just that, a copy or similar item to what bandos wore.

 

 

 

however, dragon boots are made of dragon metal. bandos armor however is just his armor, not a metal type. this can be concluded through examine of both boots and the fact that bandos plate will allow for arrow accumulation

 

 

 

for people to expect it to have a strength bonus is natural, but flawed. sure, climbing boots have str bonus but thats a special quest related item, specifically for climbing certain things(which are? i cannot remmeber). and yes i do think dragon would just be how climbing boots were to rune boots when they finally got the +2 str bonus, a cheap alternative. but in this case the +1 def really probably would have a much less signifcant factor then the rune boots vs climbing boots.

 

 

 

I agree that we shouldn't really be treating Bandos Armour as a metal grade. The chart in the first post is slightly misleading. However, the inconsistency here is that the rest of the Bandos armour provides strength bonuses. Plenty of people wear armoured boots (I know that they did wear them before they got the strength bonus upgrade, but they wear them much more because of the strength improvement) to get a nice little strength bonus as an addition to their armour set, so why is it that a strength focusing portion of a strength focused armour set gets no strength bonus whatsoever? The inconsistency is massive. A +3 or +4 str bonus would make much more sense.

 

 

 

 

 

when considering the fact that the rest of the set gave a str bonus, we must consider that a tasset is +2 str and nearly 3times if not more then 3times the defensive stats. in all actuality, it should have +1 str bonus if you had asked me in fairness

everyone has a point. jagex prolly didnt want to kill dragon boots right after release.

 

 

 

BUT..

 

 

 

 

 

...they may add the str bonus later on, just like how rune/addy boots didnt have str bonus b4. who knows, right? tho if that were to happen, all those people that put bandos boots on GE and didnt take it out before update would prolly cry...

 

 

 

 

 

they wont, bandos boots is just that, a copy or similar item to what bandos wore.

 

 

 

however, dragon boots are made of dragon metal. bandos armor however is just his armor, not a metal type. this can be concluded through examine of both boots and the fact that bandos plate will allow for arrow accumulation

 

 

 

for people to expect it to have a strength bonus is natural, but flawed. sure, climbing boots have str bonus but thats a special quest related item, specifically for climbing certain things(which are? i cannot remmeber). and yes i do think dragon would just be how climbing boots were to rune boots when they finally got the +2 str bonus, a cheap alternative. but in this case the +1 def really probably would have a much less signifcant factor then the rune boots vs climbing boots.

 

 

 

I agree that we shouldn't really be treating Bandos Armour as a metal grade. The chart in the first post is slightly misleading. However, the inconsistency here is that the rest of the Bandos armour provides strength bonuses. Plenty of people wear armoured boots (I know that they did wear them before they got the strength bonus upgrade, but they wear them much more because of the strength improvement) to get a nice little strength bonus as an addition to their armour set, so why is it that a strength focusing portion of a strength focused armour set gets no strength bonus whatsoever? The inconsistency is massive. A +3 or +4 str bonus would make much more sense.

 

 

 

 

 

when considering the fact that the rest of the set gave a str bonus, we must consider that a tasset is +2 str and nearly 3times if not more then 3times the defensive stats. in all actuality, it should have +1 str bonus if you had asked me in fairness

 

 

 

But the thing is that boots in high leveled armour are supposed to provide strength bonuses. Bandos armour is high leveled armour, so why doesn't the boots have strength bonuses?

yes but people actually use the weapon slot.

 

 

 

just use it to get kc. Then trade it for something better. IMO: Mace -1 inven space > expensive boots.

 

 

 

That depends. Ill tell you, if you are playing the role of the tank for your team, bandos boots are VERY helpful. While being a tank (Letting the general hit you) the prayer bonus, and defensive bonuses do wonders, for letting you not get attacked in the bandos area.

 

 

 

And while your at GWD, one inventory slot can make a big difference, espcailly if everyone on your team is -1 slot. Really the boots may not be good for great offensive stuff, but I dont think thats what they were designed for.

I Agree,

 

 

 

Bandos Boots should be strengthened.

Myself I have never looked close on the different stats of the different boots in the game, but now when I read your post, I saw that I should have done that. This is really intresting!

 

I agree with you. They should strenghted those boots.

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everyone has a point. jagex prolly didnt want to kill dragon boots right after release.

 

 

 

BUT..

 

 

 

 

 

...they may add the str bonus later on, just like how rune/addy boots didnt have str bonus b4. who knows, right? tho if that were to happen, all those people that put bandos boots on GE and didnt take it out before update would prolly cry...

 

 

 

 

 

they wont, bandos boots is just that, a copy or similar item to what bandos wore.

 

 

 

however, dragon boots are made of dragon metal. bandos armor however is just his armor, not a metal type. this can be concluded through examine of both boots and the fact that bandos plate will allow for arrow accumulation

 

 

 

for people to expect it to have a strength bonus is natural, but flawed. sure, climbing boots have str bonus but thats a special quest related item, specifically for climbing certain things(which are? i cannot remmeber). and yes i do think dragon would just be how climbing boots were to rune boots when they finally got the +2 str bonus, a cheap alternative. but in this case the +1 def really probably would have a much less signifcant factor then the rune boots vs climbing boots.

 

 

 

I agree that we shouldn't really be treating Bandos Armour as a metal grade. The chart in the first post is slightly misleading. However, the inconsistency here is that the rest of the Bandos armour provides strength bonuses. Plenty of people wear armoured boots (I know that they did wear them before they got the strength bonus upgrade, but they wear them much more because of the strength improvement) to get a nice little strength bonus as an addition to their armour set, so why is it that a strength focusing portion of a strength focused armour set gets no strength bonus whatsoever? The inconsistency is massive. A +3 or +4 str bonus would make much more sense.

 

 

 

 

 

when considering the fact that the rest of the set gave a str bonus, we must consider that a tasset is +2 str and nearly 3times if not more then 3times the defensive stats. in all actuality, it should have +1 str bonus if you had asked me in fairness

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But the thing is that boots in high leveled armour are supposed to provide strength bonuses. Bandos armour is high leveled armour, so why doesn't the boots have strength bonuses?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

why is it supposed to have a strength bonus? last year rune boots didnt have a str bonus. i dont recall what jagex said about the str bonus addition but, i highly doubt it was because they were high leveled equiptment, it was probably more likely to keep rune boots more desirable until dragon boots came out and coax people out of using a 12 GP boot. but thats just me.

 

 

 

and secondly, i dont see bandos armor as being high leveled. but thats just an opinion.

 

 

 

 

 

and the author of this thread did not post that these boots do not follow the trend of the metal boots with its negatives.

They should just add a +2 str bonus to make it more desirable for defense purposes, but not as good for str as opposed for metal boots.

no one ever wears bandos boots just because you have no strenght bonus, they are 1.2 mil more the d boots, and d boots look a lot cooler.

 

 

 

I dont wear d boots, I stick to my snake skin(im a ranger)