Exp farmers a new threat?

[o_knames]

I just did an eBay search. I only found one account for sale (just keysearched 'runescape'; there might be others). That account was 107 combat level, 1500 total levels with 90 somethings in strength, magic, and fletching. Also, 191 quest points and has a bunch of high level items, etc.

 

 

 

The current bid is $100. Obviously that could go up, but here's my point: That doesn't seem terribly worthwhile. Certainly a farmer couldn't make as much money/hour as they could trading like before.

 

 

 

Even businesspeople in China won't waste valuable sweatshop manhours.

 

 

 

EDIT: I've never searched for accounts before, so there may be a going rate of which I'm not aware.

[casthewiz]

The accounts being sold on ebay are often american accounts who are owned by children or teenagers wanting to make a quick buck. I don't approve of it, but a lot of my friends sold their accounts when they quit.

[snowager286]

 

HEELLLOOOOOO I already have the solution, read up about 3 posts.

 

 

 

Your idea does seem good but what about free players? They can get only so many quest points. With having to get more than the max quest points you can get on free to play to lower the trading limit, free to players, epically the free to play skillers, would have some trouble if they want to make more than 3K xp on each skill.

 

 

 

Omg can't you tell hes being sarcastic.....

[reaper88888]

This isn't exactly new... Besides, if some moron kid wants to waste his parent's money, then I don't really care, either the account gets banned before sale, or they quit a few weeks later. Besides, it'd be much easier for goldfarmers to just move on to a new game. Remember, if a bot or farmer with 600k on it gets caught, they lose a few hours work; if a high-leveled account being farmed gets caught, then the farmer loses weeks of work.

[Malhavok]

The accounts being sold on ebay are often american accounts who are owned by children or teenagers wanting to make a quick buck. I don't approve of it, but a lot of my friends sold their accounts when they quit.

 

 

 

Also the accounts are from hackers who don't tell ya about a bank pin then get back the account with recovery questions.

 

 

 

 

 

Also I have seen RWT websites where you can buy an account:

 

Like 50, 60 or 70 + Range, woodcutting, mining, fishing, etc.

[BloodArgon]

I got it guys, the solution to this is quite simple really. All you have to do is limit the amount of exp to the same amount of the max you can trade. For example, if you havent done any quests, you can only get 3,000 exp in each skill each day, but if you have more than 200 quests points, then you can get 30,000 in each skill each day. This will stop account selling for good, because you cant raise up your stats super quickly. It may seem like this idea is bad, but it will stop account selling, which has been putting a huge impact in EVERYONES gaming experience since the begging. Im now going to crunch the numbers.

 

 

 

With 30k exp a day, it will only take 434 days to reach level 99 in one skill. Since 30k is such a low amount, you could continue to raise every skill by 30k exp a day! In just over a year, you could still max out your skills, which has taken most people 5 years to do! Quite amazing actually! You can actually max faster using this method! TIme for another number crunch.

 

 

 

There is 26 skills in the game ( i think) so times that by 30,000! Thats 780,000 exp, which is almost a mill exp a day! I could normally only dream of getting that much, so its no deficit there!

 

 

 

Again, this time with 3,000 exp, no quests completed.

 

 

 

TIME TO CRUNCH THOSE NUMBERS!!!!

 

 

 

It will only take 4333 days to get 99 in everything! Thats only about a decade to get everything, but besides, So many quests are important like the rune mysteries quest, so this number should be alot less, everyone should just have their quest points ready! Start doing your quests, This is almost garunteed to be a future update!

 

 

 

You have to be kidding me...

 

Everyone else who agreed, you still have to be kidding me...

 

 

 

At 111 QP, I get 13k gp (xp in this case) Now, how long would it take me to level up a str level? 10 DAYS! It would take 10 DAYS TO GET ONE strength level, not only would this kill the game, it wouldnt be any fun. Say you want to do barrows, but need 50 construction for house portal? Oops, you to wait 8 days, what about 94 magic, from 82? Its your hours, spend them how you want, but, oops, gonna take 420 days to do that, so, nevermind.

 

 

 

You have to be honestly kidding with this method, try taking on some extra zeros in there, maybe will make some more sense. Also, not evenone is a questaholic, so, you cant base it like that, no one would level up anymore, think of free to play people who want to max out, oops, there is my 3k str exp for the day, time to quit and play something else.

[muggiwhplar]

You guys worry too much :|

[Randox]

lol no one buys actual accounts its too easy to get scammed (old recovery questions work for a while)

 

 

 

but what you do have to worry about is those asians in the sweatshops logging into YOUR (not their) accounts and power-leveling for you (or making 5 mil for you and you pay them say 20 bucks for it)

 

 

 

Thats what i have a feeling is the next target

 

 

 

and i have a feeling that jagex next response will be a continental IP system where only IP adresses in your area work

 

 

 

Not a bad idea. All standard ip's have a reginal code, which tends to cover a large area. You would have to register your accounts area. Even if your ip changes the area code part is constant. They could also blacklist all known proxys (big list growing daily), and from what I hear most proxies now dont last longer than 1 week (2 max) before content blocker companies discover them. Many only last maybe 2 days. With proxies dissapering that fast it would be difficult to level an account, plus Jagex could ban accounts that have ips latter found to be proxys. Also mass amounts of accounts on the proxys ip would show up as mass multiple logins making detection quite swift.

[hellbellz]

You guys worry too much :|

O dats fo sho cuh.

 

 

 

Seriously, who cares. If it doesn't affect your gameplay, I have no reason why you should care. Some kid buys 99 mining, why should I care?

[remington]

In order for a seller to level an account cheaply they would HAVE to use a macro.

 

 

 

Even USING a macro it would take months. Jagex has shown that they are fairly good at banning an account in THAT amount of time.

 

 

 

But failing that, let's say it DOES happen.

 

 

 

For the account to be GOOD it would need member stats. What happens when suddenly dozens of high level accounts are going from one continent and one payer, to a different country, and a totally different payer.

 

 

 

THEN the account gets new recoveries and new pin.

 

 

 

I do believe even an inept Jagex could figure THAT out....

[XxTearGodxX]

I highly doubt the RWT'ers would take up this chance to make money seeing as it'd take longer to train skills if the people do or don't have the money available for their lvls.

 

 

 

I just figure they can make faster profits off of RWT'ing in other games and will do that.

[Rollyboy]

theidiot11 wrote:

 

I got it guys, the solution to this is quite simple really. All you have to do is limit the amount of exp to the same amount of the max you can trade. For example, if you havent done any quests, you can only get 3,000 exp in each skill each day, but if you have more than 200 quests points, then you can get 30,000 in each skill each day. This will stop account selling for good, because you cant raise up your stats super quickly. It may seem like this idea is bad, but it will stop account selling, which has been putting a huge impact in EVERYONES gaming experience since the begging. Im now going to crunch the numbers.

 

 

 

With 30k exp a day, it will only take 434 days to reach level 99 in one skill. Since 30k is such a low amount, you could continue to raise every skill by 30k exp a day! In just over a year, you could still max out your skills, which has taken most people 5 years to do! Quite amazing actually! You can actually max faster using this method! TIme for another number crunch.

 

 

 

There is 26 skills in the game ( i think) so times that by 30,000! Thats 780,000 exp, which is almost a mill exp a day! I could normally only dream of getting that much, so its no deficit there!

 

 

 

Again, this time with 3,000 exp, no quests completed.

 

 

 

TIME TO CRUNCH THOSE NUMBERS!!!!

 

 

 

It will only take 4333 days to get 99 in everything! Thats only about a decade to get everything, but besides, So many quests are important like the rune mysteries quest, so this number should be alot less, everyone should just have their quest points ready! Start doing your quests, This is almost garunteed to be a future update!

 

 

 

Haha. Who knows...this could happen! haha

 

 

 

LOL @ people who took it seriously

[The_Gabe]

I got it guys, the solution to this is quite simple really. All you have to do is limit the amount of exp to the same amount of the max you can trade. For example, if you havent done any quests, you can only get 3,000 exp in each skill each day, but if you have more than 200 quests points, then you can get 30,000 in each skill each day. This will stop account selling for good, because you cant raise up your stats super quickly. It may seem like this idea is bad, but it will stop account selling, which has been putting a huge impact in EVERYONES gaming experience since the begging. Im now going to crunch the numbers.

 

 

 

With 30k exp a day, it will only take 434 days to reach level 99 in one skill. Since 30k is such a low amount, you could continue to raise every skill by 30k exp a day! In just over a year, you could still max out your skills, which has taken most people 5 years to do! Quite amazing actually! You can actually max faster using this method! TIme for another number crunch.

 

 

 

There is 26 skills in the game ( i think) so times that by 30,000! Thats 780,000 exp, which is almost a mill exp a day! I could normally only dream of getting that much, so its no deficit there!

 

 

 

Again, this time with 3,000 exp, no quests completed.

 

 

 

TIME TO CRUNCH THOSE NUMBERS!!!!

 

 

 

It will only take 4333 days to get 99 in everything! Thats only about a decade to get everything, but besides, So many quests are important like the rune mysteries quest, so this number should be alot less, everyone should just have their quest points ready! Start doing your quests, This is almost garunteed to be a future update!

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, but...HELL NO!!!

[Raven6666]

How about looking at (if) there are increasing numbers of gold-farmers appearing in WoW instead?

 

 

 

Goldfarmers could've/would've expended their goldmaking accounts (Mass-Drag bots, re-sourcing bots and the like) once JAGeX lipped up the limits. Those accounts then would be under watch, as JAGeX might've re-coded certain areas to basically track them.

 

Goldfarmers would probably have to start anew, either stay in the RuneScape Market, or in the WoW market, which seems quite profitable. There may be more upcoming games which also seem more alluring.

 

 

 

If they were to stay in the RuneScape market, they have to start with new accounts, all of which probably will be monitored.

 

 

 

On the other hand, to stay in the RS market, they could:

 

 

 

Sell "special" macros for a certain amount of cash - this would die off easily as once one person gets one and cracks it, they'll (hopefully) clean it and share it, further down the line, a middleman will put various bad codes into it, making it either unusuable or ridden with the Devil(Take that into your own meaning, don't want to upset anyone).

 

 

 

(As mentioned in previous posts) Start offering services to train accounts, JAGeX already monitors a bit of IP's, eg. if they see the RS China/Asia region IP one day, then a Canadian the other day and China/Asia again and etc, they'll keep watch and if it happens to be that the China/Asia IP is on for lets say 100 hours a week, compared to the Canadian IP being logged in for 30 minutes in the week.

 

If the above scenario or similar happens, then the account would of course be watched over, and possibly ban after a while.

 

 

 

When someone buys someone to level their account up, its still RWT, but in this stance, time for money, not money for money.

[Knight_Zaros]

Honestly who cares? I mean let some 30 year old man sit in a chair for 3-4 monthes nearly constantly to sell account that will probably be banned nearly immediately for $500 or whatever to some annoying 12 year old. Point being noobs will be noobs... It doesnt take much to get to lvl 126 other than time. Any 12 year old could obtain it. Runescape is a game of achievements not really skill for the most part. IMO least.

[swordwarior]

Nothing to worry about, jagex will just but sleeping bags back in the game...

[w0ngt0ng]

 

HEELLLOOOOOO I already have the solution, read up about 3 posts.

 

 

 

Your idea does seem good but what about free players? They can get only so many quest points. With having to get more than the max quest points you can get on free to play to lower the trading limit, free to players, epically the free to play skillers, would have some trouble if they want to make more than 3K xp on each skill.

 

 

 

Omg can't you tell hes being sarcastic.....

 

 

 

He's not being sarcastic.

 

 

 

It was a real idea he was sharing.

[Phantom]

The account selling industry and gold selling industry will always be around because people who have the money can afford to buy accounts/gold.

 

 

 

Think about it, if you worked and earned between $15-30, in about 1 week you could save up enough money to probably buy a lvl 100+ Runescape account. No one would suspect it was probably bought, and you didn't waste years of your life leveling it up. In the end you would have the power, respect, of a high leveled player (if you do your research) by just going to work 40 hours a week. After a a few months of playing you could then resale it and regain much of what you spent on the account in the first place...

 

 

 

Jagex can not ban all of them, and a few companies specialize in account selling and are very good at it. It's a multimllion dolar industry also, so there is demand, and security for the transactions must be good as well.

 

 

 

As long as there is demand, there will be suppliers :(

[Nhs_Xc]

I believe we will start to see more subscription based macros designed for main accounts. The author's of these codes would continue to update the anti ban codes they have inplace after each update (sort of like AR in rsc).

 

 

 

If not that then depending on how they change the BH system, I think we can expect to see more macro pures with higher noncombat stats (ie mining and woodcuting).

[Trobigod]

I got it guys, the solution to this is quite simple really. All you have to do is limit the amount of exp to the same amount of the max you can trade. For example, if you havent done any quests, you can only get 3,000 exp in each skill each day, but if you have more than 200 quests points, then you can get 30,000 in each skill each day. This will stop account selling for good, because you cant raise up your stats super quickly. It may seem like this idea is bad, but it will stop account selling, which has been putting a huge impact in EVERYONES gaming experience since the begging. Im now going to crunch the numbers.

 

 

 

With 30k exp a day, it will only take 434 days to reach level 99 in one skill. Since 30k is such a low amount, you could continue to raise every skill by 30k exp a day! In just over a year, you could still max out your skills, which has taken most people 5 years to do! Quite amazing actually! You can actually max faster using this method! TIme for another number crunch.

 

 

 

There is 26 skills in the game ( i think) so times that by 30,000! Thats 780,000 exp, which is almost a mill exp a day! I could normally only dream of getting that much, so its no deficit there!

 

 

 

Again, this time with 3,000 exp, no quests completed.

 

 

 

TIME TO CRUNCH THOSE NUMBERS!!!!

 

 

 

It will only take 4333 days to get 99 in everything! Thats only about a decade to get everything, but besides, So many quests are important like the rune mysteries quest, so this number should be alot less, everyone should just have their quest points ready! Start doing your quests, This is almost garunteed to be a future update!

 

 

 

There's a problem with that, focused training, you couldn't, for example, grow magic trees. (if you had quest points, you could grow 2).

 

 

 

And besides that, the current limit is 3k (30k) in 15 minute period, which would mean 16 hours per day (it could be more, I don't know much they play a day) sweatshop player could get 192k exp per day to a skill, 1920k if 200+ quest points...

 

 

 

And if they did that. No matter if the limit is 3k (30k) a day or 15 minutes, they'd lose too many players, they won't do that.

[Dragontotem]

 

*something about 3k exp per day*

 

 

 

 

roflmfao XD

 

That would be so jagex :lol:

[hahahakilol]

I LOVE these updates, no more autoers, I love seeing I can see autotalkers, advertising there gold-selling site. Because I know they no longer are able to sell money. And don't give out presents anyway.

[theidiot11]

theidiot11 wrote:

 

My quote about 3k exp a day

 

 

 

Haha. Who knows...this could happen! haha

 

 

 

LOL @ people who took it seriously

 

COngradulations, the first person to realize it was a joke and it was something that Jagex would seriously do.

[jettrider]

theidiot11 wrote:

 

My quote about 3k exp a day

 

 

 

Haha. Who knows...this could happen! haha

 

 

 

LOL @ people who took it seriously

 

COngradulations, the first person to realize it was a joke and it was something that Jagex would seriously do.

 

 

 

I don't think Jagex would ever go that far but it was a good laugh the first time I saw it.

 

 

 

The problem is that nothing Jagex does about restriction on money/training ingame can stop RWT. In your joke, the RWT would just go for the max experience per day then switch to another account, etc, eventually selling characters with all 80/90s. Anything players can do farmers/bots can do better.

 

 

 

The only thing I can think of would be requiring players not to have dialup then restrict an account to 1 ip address each. I doubt RWT would ever evolve to the point of a worker comes over to your house in real life to train your account.

[Will H]

theidiot11 wrote:

 

My quote about 3k exp a day

 

 

 

Haha. Who knows...this could happen! haha

 

 

 

LOL @ people who took it seriously

 

COngradulations, the first person to realize it was a joke and it was something that Jagex would seriously do.

 

 

 

Funny, isn't it. Your idea is ridiculous, but when you put it into the context of 'what Jagex would do', it sounds real and serious.

 

Actually, no, it isn't funny, it's worrying.

 

 

 

I think that account selling is going to be much easier to track than gold farming because of ip recognition software. You can tell if an ip switches quickly from country to country, whereas you can't track bots because they never changed location (or owner), and money/items just couldn't be tracked at all.

 

In addition, it takes much longer to farm accounts (and thus higher risk).