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89+ Summoners: Is it worth making Geyser titans? Read page 31



I'M BACK!!! As some of you know, I'm back to Runescape and I think I should keep my guide up-to-date. If there's anything that you think I should add, just post away and I'll get to it as soon as possible.



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<3: Introduction to Kent’s Summoning Guide! <3:



So, I see you clicked my Guide. This guide will hopefully contain everything you'll need to know. Just to name a few of thing’s it contains are: A review on what food to use, what armour to use, what pouches to make to level, how to obtain charms, how to obtain secondary ingredients, a Jargon dictionary, review of pets and familiars, funny facts, false rumors, and much, much more!



This guide's been growing ever since Summoning was released! Thanks for all the positive (and negative, constructive) responses!




Latest update: Bork.(8/11/09)

Latest big update: Bork (8/11/09)




-= Table of Contents =-



• Summoning basics

¤ Summoning introduction

¤ Definition of terms




• How to train Summoning

¤ Bogrog, the Pouch - Shard trader

¤ Estimate cost to 99 Summoning!

¤ How to obtain 99 Summoning - The casual way

¤ How to obtain 99 Summoning - The advanced way

¤ How to obtain shards




• Which charm to collect and how?

¤ Summary of charms

¤ Food

¤ Equipment

¤ Tips

¤ Clue scrolls

¤ What monster to kill





• How to obtain seconds

¤ (Secondary ingredients that are worth collecting.)



• Which obelisk to use

¤ Method 1

¤ Method 2

¤ Method 3




• Which familiars are good to use

¤ General information about how charms determine familiars

¤ The big 3

¤ Skills

¤ More specific activities




• Pets

¤ (All pets)



• False Rumours

¤ (Rumours)



• Frequently Asked Questions (FAQS)

¤ (Questions and Answers)



• Errors



You must first start the quest Wolf whistle.



Summoning introduction


Definition of terms




Where to level



Bogrog, the Pouch - Shard trader


Estimate cost to 99 Summoning!


How to obtain 99 Summoning - The casual way




How to obtain 99 Summoning - The advanced way




How to obtain charms



How to obtain shards



No, it is not as simple as going to Pickkupstix and buying Shards, lol. As you should know, shards are a major cost in Summoning, along with secondary ingredients. So, how should we obtain them, you ask? Easy! Buy pouches! Certain pouches are good to buy, as they are much cheaper than 25 each per shard after you trade them into shards. The market changes all the time, so I can’t tell you whats good and what’s not. The second method is to buy them off the forums by junk trading.



Which charm to collect and how?



Summoning is highly related to combat. (Well, besides thieving but thats junk anyways.) You must kill monsters to obtain charms. Different monsters have different rates. I will explain which monster is the best for which charm, and what is the best way to kill them. I will only name a few methods on gold, blue, and green, mainly because they're bad for training summoning.



Summary of charms




(All charm rates are based on a level 130+, so it may be slower or faster depending on your combat level.

All of these equipment and inventory is what works for me, adjust as needed.)

The order is a tier list. The higher it is, the better it is for charms. The monsters without numbers means I didn't rank them yet.



Food


Equipment


Tips




Clue scrolls




What monster to kill

*Note* For a better description and more, check out my Slayer guide. All monsters here are Slayer monsters besides Cockroaches.



Bork




1) Waterfiends (115)


2) Rock lobsters(127)


3)Scarabites()


4) Black demon(172)




5) Nechryael (115)


6) Greater Demon(92)


7) Dust Devil(93)


Abyssal Demons (124)


Skeletal Wyverns


King black dragon


Cockroach soldier


Dagannoth




How to obtain Seconds



Just like in Herblore, you need to be able to collect secondary ingredients for your pouches. Here is a list of ways to get your secondary ingredients effectively.



I used to have every single item listed, but they are already found in all item databases, so I ommited them for space. I will still leave some here because they are worth doing for money, or because it is hard to obtain info on them. (Eggs) As you can see, there's not many actually worth doing for money.



(Most tests used Super energies)



Cockatrice Egg (and variants)


Raw bird meat




Which obelisk to use



Method 1


Method 2


Method 3




Which familiars are good to use?



General information about how charms determine familiars



These are just general informations. Some familiars could break the rules, however most don't.



Gold - Very low shard costs, but low xp at the same time. They tend to require rather lower levels. (Highest requirement is 71!) The familiars created from Gold charms tends to do many things, varying from Combat, skills boosts, Beasts of burden, foraging, ect. However, it do any of those very well, except for Beasts of burden. Also known as the low level charm.



Green - This charm tends to cost many shards, but not much xp. It’s known for making the familiars that benefit skills.



Crimsons - This charm is known to be very useful for training. However, it has many more uses than just training. The familiars it creates are just like Gold charm familiars. They do many things, but mostly combat. However, this charm's familiar tends to get better as they level. At lower levels, most familiars made by the Crimson charms are useless. But as they level, they tend to be the best.



Blue - This charm is known for making very strong combat familiars, and that is very true.



The big 3 - This refers to Combat, healer, and Beasts of burden familiars. They are the 3 biggest categories, although there are others such as foragers... but I don't think they are close to as important.



Combat Familiars


Healer familiars


Beasts of Burden




Skills



This part of the guide is not useless. Unlike most Summoning guides, I won't just tell you mage - Wolpertingers. No. Thats useless information. I will tell you instead what is the best familiar that compliments the skill! So, instead of just saying Farming - Stranger plants, I will say which familiar actually helps you while farming, (and why) not just increases the level. (You can find that at Runescape Knowledgebase.) Which in most case is a Spirit terrorbird, not a Stranger plant.



Runecrafting


Hunting




More specific activities!



Mining granite(Banking)


Power mining


Pure essence mining




The ones that are just too obvious I will put here. However, if a skill is obvious and it's not here, maybe theres more options then you thought... well, heres the list.



Firemaking: STOP! It's not, Pyrelords, lol. In fact, there is no familiars you should use while Firemaking.

Fishing: The highest level Fisher familiar. Granite lobsters, than Ibis, than Granite crabs.



Pets



Of course, summoning isn't all about making familiars fight for you. There is also the infamous pets!



Monkeys coming next!



Chameleon(90)




False Rumours



R) I heard that summoning makes alot of junk!

A) False. You can easily trade in your pouches for shards. Why would you want an unsellable version of that?



R) My friend saw a pet dragon attack!

A) He lies.



R) Summoning is fake combat levels!

A) I don't see how it is, you can use Combat familiars in multi combat, healers and BoB otherwise, and foragers and other skill boosting familiars are also nice.



R) Summoning is useless in PvP.

A) Err... no. If you're using it places such as PvP, combat familiars help A LOT, and most importantly, Combat levels don't even matter if you're not doing PvP with level caps. Even if I'm a level 135, I can fight people level 117. If I want to fight lower levels, than all I have to do is not use a familiar. Even if you're a pure, there is no reason not to get it, because you don't have to have a familiar out when you PK.



R) Summoning costs 500m it's too expensive for me.

A) Go up and search for "Estimate cost to 99 Summoning!" below how to get 99 summoning. It only costs 70m, although it costs 243m if you Burst Rock lobsters.



Frequenly Asked Questions (FAQs)



Q) What charms should I use to train?

A) Blue is the best, but they are so rare you should stick with Crimson.



Q) I'm a pure, but should I train summoning?

A) Definitely. Because of how useful familiars are for training, I would definitely advise getting it. Bunyips, Unicorns, BoBs, Combat familiars... so many ways to benefit even and especially if you're a pure. The ONLY downside to Summoning as a pure is that most pures find it to be "fake" combat levels. If you can ignore them, great.



Q) What monsters should I hunt to get my charms?

A) There are many choices, but the best are Waterfiends and Rock lobsters. Slayer is the absolute best way, however as you get slayer xp.



Q) I can't hunt those! What should I do?

A) Other great options are: Abyssal demons, Nechryaels Dust devils, and Black demons.



Q) I have all these pouches, what is the best thing to do with them?

A) Turn them into shards.



Q) Can I Summon a Spirit wolf (level 1 requirement) without doing Wolf's Whistle?

A) No, you may not. No worries though, as it is a short and easy quest.



Q) Help! I dont have enough money to afford summoning. Maybe I should use gold charms, I heard theyre really cheap.

A) Uhh... well. Yeah, theres always that approach. However, you can easily make money, and use crimsons charms which in the end would save you alot of time.



Q) So what is the absolute BEST way of training summoning without slayer? Waterfiends or Rock lobsters?

A) Well. Before, Rock lobsters were considered the best. People bursted them and obtained mass amount of charms. Waterfiends were decent charms, but they also lost alot of money. Albeit not as much as Rock lobsters, but you definitely did not make money. Now, however, Jagex has updated Waterfiends to have MUCH better drops. If you compare them now, youll probably end up with 5x more cash. People are also discovering new methods to kill them, such as pietying and Dharoking. I would personally say Waterfiends, as Mage xp is gained through superheating gold ores, which was recently discovered to be the most efficient way to train smithing. Or it is said by "The" famous person...



Q) What are the most useful summons?

A) All summons are useful in their own way, but some definitely are more useful than others. These are:



*34: Void spinner - Heals half as much as a bunyip, which is 1 hp per 15 seconds which is very useful. Obviously gets replaced by the Bunyip at 68.

*52: Spirit Terrorbird - Has 12 spaces for BoB, and it restores energy. There are extremely cheap and easy to come by, which is the main reason why people use them. They dont get completely replaced by the War tortoise because they are pretty expensive and hard to come by and dont restore energy.

*67: War tortoise - Most people dont reach 96 Summoning for the Pack yak, and this is the best BoB until then. It has 18 spaces and gets replaced by the Pack yak at 96.

*68: Bunyips - Cures the owner by 2 hp every 15 seconds. This may seem very insignificant, but it adds up to alot. Enough to get me through most slayer tasks without food. Also, it's special lets you eat 1 raw fish per scroll, which is perfect for waterfiends. This does not get completely replaced at 88 because of the cost of scrolls and because while training 2 hp per 15 seconds is usually more than enough.

69: Fruit bat - I hesitated to put these here but their spec can make Papaya which cures 8 hp and barely takes any bar. You can probably keep using the spec, but it can be annoying to your inventory, expensive, hard to heal when you have full inventory, ect.

*88: Unicorn Stallion - This is actually one of the best familiars in the game. It cures 14 hp per spec, which is 42 hp per bar! This is every monster hunter's dream.

*89: Geyser titans - Arguably when combat familiars start becoming very useful while training. Replaced by many more combat familiars after it.

*96: Pack yak - 30 Beasts of burden. Must I say more?

*99: Steel titan - King of Titans. King of summons. His special demolishes ANYTHING hitting over 80! Has 750 Life. Ultimate attack summon.



Thanks to



Me: For making the guide

Jagex: For making my favorite skill. And pics.

Readers: For reading.

Laura0077: For helping me get pics, advice, ect.

Promise: For making me an ownage banner. :D/

Tip it: For hosting my guide, and for Pics.



Found errors


Summoning drop rates


Other credits


Thanks for links

Edited by Pure_MageUK, 25 September 2009 - 02:33 AM.
The BBCode in this guide was so bad that I've gone through and actually corrected all of the errors in it. You are lucky it actually ever worked on phpBB, it shouldn't have done.

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Uhh... the guide is back! Yeah, love Microsoft :D





Hmm... you can't hide things anymore... I have to edit all that and find a good set-up for my guide...
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Nice to see this guide back. Hmmm I guess we can't use hide tags?

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Dangit....its pretty messed up because hide tags don't work for some reason.

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Yeah, I have noooo idea why they took hide tags out.
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Yeah, I have noooo idea why they took hide tags out.


I think they were a custom code, and the staff hasn't gotten around to putting it back yet.



Great guide though, should help me out if I get members and train summoning.

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I killed around 1k Waterfiends I think... I'll have to check. Anyway, I'll type of those drop rate after I get this guide back...



The hide isn't working. Can anybody help?
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I hope it helps :D . Oh and nice guide you've there...

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I hope it helps . Oh and nice guide you've there...

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This is what you should get:

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I hope it helps :D . Oh and nice guide you've there...




No, thats not what I meant. I know all that, if you quote my guide you'll see that it's in perfect format, but the hide options aren't functioning...



Edit: Wow, I edited my guide and now it works!
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Wow nice guide :D

I thought I'd point out that you called the Thorny Snail a Thorny Spider :P
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Very nice guide, which would have been nicer if I'd noticed it a bit earlier...You seem to have done everything prettty similar to me, except for the bit about training with stranger plants. Granite Lobsters give more experience and the second is easily bough off the GE now. They do cost 1 or 2 GP more per xp point, but they decrease the amount of charms that you hav to use. Also, I think that you said that the Level 79 titans heal 13 and boost defence by 12... I get 8 HP healed/boosted, and I seriously doubt that there can be a difference of 4 extra points between 90(me) and 99 which you may have but I don't know. I never really payed so much attention to the defence boost :lol: but i think that I get around 10 points boosted...

Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 Seercull
Dragon Drops: 405~46 Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,8 Legs,9 Spear,2 D2h,8 L Half,49 Boots,2 Skirt,2 DDs,9 Lump,8 Claws,56 Dagger,13 Visage,74 Mace,4 Scimitar,2 Hasta,Baxe,51 Long,29 Royal,2 Kite,Ward,Plate,Staff,Hammer
GWD: 151~4 S Staff,72 Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,3 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,Z Boots,B shield

Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh Nex: 3~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl + GWD2: 6~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots 

Etc: 57~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,6 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,4 Rider Armor,4 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,Blood Shard,5 Hydrix,Gland

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Very nice guide, which would have been nicer if I'd noticed it a bit earlier...You seem to have done everything prettty similar to me, except for the bit about training with stranger plants. Granite Lobsters give more experience and the second is easily bough off the GE now. They do cost 1 or 2 GP more per xp point, but they decrease the amount of charms that you hav to use. Also, I think that you said that the Level 79 titans heal 13 and boost defence by 12... I get 8 HP healed/boosted, and I seriously doubt that there can be a difference of 4 extra points between 90(me) and 99 which you may have but I don't know. I never really payed so much attention to the defence boost :lol: but i think that I get around 10 points boosted...




Actually your right. Those are errors, and the granite lobsters is pretty unupdated. I'll have to update my guide now that TIF is back.







***EDIT:*** I'm extremely active in the Help and Advice forums, and whenever I see a summoning help thread, people link this site. However, thats only when they're asking general things, or how to level. Whenever somebody asks how to collect charms, this thread is neglected.



So, in light of this, I have updated the Monster guide! Enjoy!
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I'm going to guess your aware of the errors in image cropping on a lot of hideaways, and text size on several headers. Can't list them all, but Which Obelisk to Use is one of them. :P

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I'm going to guess your aware of the errors in image cropping on a lot of hideaways, and text size on several headers. Can't list them all, but Which Obelisk to Use is one of them. :P




Actually, it's all the headings.



Heres a question. Are the TIF mods planning to bring back the ability to put hide tabs inside hide tabs?
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Nice guide, Good luck

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Great GUIDE!! :thumbsup:



One thing.... i went to look for Alphakodes Ice bursting guide and i couldnt find it :shock:



Other than that... AWSOME JOB
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Great GUIDE!! :thumbsup:



One thing.... i went to look for Alphakodes Ice bursting guide and i couldnt find it :shock:



Other than that... AWSOME JOB




Yeah, I'm waiting for them to repost it... if they are. It got lost in the rollback.



And thanks for the :thumbup: comments.
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Lovely guide. <3: Thanks for posting.

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Must have taken a while to put together.

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Lovely guide. <3: Thanks for posting.

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Must have taken a while to put together.




Dreading the future. #-o
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This guide owns 10/10

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