Estonian dude Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I should have rather said that I am [bleep]ing oblivious.I have no troubles holding a conversation with pretty much anyone. My parents suggested me learning to be a diplomat, because I am good with people. I can chat with a hot girl all day and I can hold hands, I just don't know what to do next. And I definitely worry too much about what I am thought of. But yeah, the reason I posted this is that I have met quite few hot and nice chicks and spent time with them as well, but I haven't gotten further than a date. And frankly, even if I took someone to see movies at my place, I have absolutely no idea how to act then. That has happened that way before, mind you. A girl invited me over. We slept in the same bed. She told me to be more straightforward and do whatever I wanted. I just didn't know what to do and still don't know. So that way, muggi, your help was absolutely different from what I really need. So I've noticed this thread's regulars all follow similar trends. RPG is constantly dealing with psycho exes.Muggi reminds us of the joys of polygamy.Saq is totally oblivious to how much chicks dig him.I strike out every other week.Kalphite wages a war against the friend zone.Randox pretty much stays rational.Etc, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I wrote that post under the assumption that you guys know what you should be doing, but you're just not doing it for whatever reason. @Saqs, just follow this as closely as possible. In my case, my "escalation" looks like this: (first date)1. Talk to her like normal, make her laugh and feel comfortable2. Start holding her hand, occasionally rubbing her hand with my thumb3. Let go of her hand, rest my hand on her thigh (second date at my place on my couch)4. Put my arm around her while sitting on my couch with her5. Use my free hand to caress her hair/face6. Go for the kiss, and be the first to pull away if she kisses me back7. Wait a little bit then start making out with her, then proceed to sex. If she doesn't want to have sex, then I'll have a 3rd date with her and repeat what I did on the 2nd date. If on the 3rd date, I don't get any "farther" than I did on the 2nd date, I quit seeing her and never contact her again. And then I go repeat the process with a different girl. If I didn't have the ability to "replace" her so easily, then I can almost guarantee I'd make up all kinds of excuses to keep seeing her... and then I'd wind up unhappy and sexually frustrated while she [bleep]s other guys. This is why it's important for every man to learn how to bring new women into his life. @Ring, when I was a kid I was afraid of hanging out with new friends after school because I was afraid we'd get bored or run out of things to do or talk about, and things would get awkward. I'm assuming that's a similar kind of feeling you're getting now? Anyways, if you have any mutual friends, invite them along and try to hang out with 2+ other people at a time outside of work/school so that way you won't feel any "pressure" to have fun with them. Then when you're comfortable with that, you can hang out with them alone. Like I said though, just do what you're afraid of doing and see what happens. I could give you a bulletproof logical explanation of what to do and why, but it wouldn't matter if you're still too afraid to try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estonian dude Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Well it is hard to get deeper friends if you don't have common interests. For example, if you both like to play, have a LAN party. Go fishing. Do something else aswell. That would be my best advice in this situation. There must be something you both like to do. And that kiss ain't what I was looking for, I knew that. I mean, what after kiss? So I've noticed this thread's regulars all follow similar trends. RPG is constantly dealing with psycho exes.Muggi reminds us of the joys of polygamy.Saq is totally oblivious to how much chicks dig him.I strike out every other week.Kalphite wages a war against the friend zone.Randox pretty much stays rational.Etc, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estonian dude Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Aye, that was the stuff I needed.Thanks. So I've noticed this thread's regulars all follow similar trends. RPG is constantly dealing with psycho exes.Muggi reminds us of the joys of polygamy.Saq is totally oblivious to how much chicks dig him.I strike out every other week.Kalphite wages a war against the friend zone.Randox pretty much stays rational.Etc, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 One more thing regarding escalation... I don't wait for any "invitations" from her to do any of that stuff. Instead of asking myself, "is she ready for me to do this?" or "how will she react if I do this?" I just do it regardless of how she's acting and see what happens. I don't wait for any golden opportunities or anything. So if we're at Starbucks together and we're both talking, I just casually grab her hand and start holding it and then continue the conversation as if nothing ever happened. If I'm watching a movie with her on my couch, I just put my arm around her. Or I'll just turn to look at her, put my hand on her cheek/chin and kiss her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Yeah common interests tends to be the issue. Mostly it comes down to, do we play the same games. Otherwise I don't really talk to them as much. Main issue there is I don't have a lot of outdoor hobbies. So a lot of my common intersts have been gaming. smoking pot, or other trivial stuff. And how I escalate. If Im on a making out level I just say stop me if you feel uncomfortable at any point. Make outHand on chest on shirtHand on braHand on chestThenHand still on chestOther hand on pantsOther hand on underwearShirt offOther hand on crotchpants off Need me to go on? Lol if they smoke too, then just be like "hey you wanna smoke weed and play ____ or watch ____ after class/work?" Nobody's going to decline free weed :P Besides if you're both stoned then that right there's enough to take the pressure off and ensure you have a good time. In my case I usually just ask them if they wanna go grab a beer after work. Then you talk about work and stuff with them while having a drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Yea when it comes to the sexual stuff I pretty much just send her home if she's resisting my advances. It turns me off when they resist and I'm not very fond of being persistent under those circumstances. I'd prefer us to both be on the same wavelength. :P If she's resisting my advances, that means I did a poor job of turning her on at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxx Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Rejection is great. I'd much rather a "no" then a "maybe". And eh muggi your advice there is more of a reflection of your personal issues and growth. Me personally I have never had a problem telling a girl how that I'm into her, think shes hot, etc. I have the issues of meeting enough people (a bit of an introvert with lazy friends), and when I am really into a specific girl I have huge trouble telling her that, though with a girl equally attractive that I'm not that into I have no problems. By intentionally ending relationships in the past, such as intitiating break ups or ending friendships or even quitting jobs I have learned that I love the feeling that comes with it. I have been able to sort out my main issue above by treating it like those situations where I definitely put a line in the sand.Do you ever find that girls tell you they trust you really fast?Cause i feel like i've never really been scared to tell someone what's on my mind. A few years ago that was part of the reason i wasn't very well liked by a lot of people we used to see at parties and such. But i've never been scared of speaking my mind no matter what the consequences.Anyway, i try to do the same when it comes to girls and i always found that they open up to me extremely fast. Perhaps it the type of girl i am attracted to, maybe it's not. But i always thought that perhaps it's just a result of my "honesty". Was just wondering if you might experience the same sort of thing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Hung out with radio station girl tonight for like 4 hours. It was a pretty good time, not sure if I'll pursue anything with her though. I can't really get a feel for what she thinks of me. I can obviously influence that without much issue, but I'm not sure if it'd be a good idea to try to push it beyond a friendship. There's a degree to which she's actually my boss (She's on the board of directors that hired me) and I think it might be a bad idea to [bleep] with that. At the same time, she only had to be here from 12-1 and she stayed until like 15 minutes ago (4:30ish). Plus she brought me cookies again. So like, at the very least she probably doesn't hate me haha. Realistically though, we'll probably just be friends which is totally cool with me. I think it's be too much of a challenge to make it into anything more and that's really not my style. [bleep] the law, they can eat my dick that's word to Pimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Levelled Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 @muggi What's your policy (for lack of a better word) on attending family events? I got my dumb ass invited to a girl's brother's wedding. I'd like to go just for the fun time and alcohol aspect but I don't want to send the wrong message to the girl. Girl is aware exclusivity isn't an option right now, but to make matters a little complicated, her brother is a decent friend of mine.. Girl and I have been FB's basically since summer began, she's from my hometown and we go different schools so I'm hoping that also helps her understand this isn't going anywhere after August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I avoid them just because that kind of sends the message that you're her [exclusive] boyfriend. Especially if she's "just" a FB and you haven't been seeing her for very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpgGamer Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Id say go and have a good time anyway though. No reason why you cant if she's totally aware your being there doesnt mean anything binding between the two of you Quote Quote Anyone who likes tacos is incapable of logic. Anyone who likes logic is incapable of tacos. PSA: SaqPrets is an Estonian Dude Steam: NippleBeardTM Origin: Brand_New_iPwn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I have a feeling that she already thinks of him as boyfriend material, hence the invitation If that's not the case though then ya I agree w/ RPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfuscator Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Go, and spend the night hitting on other women "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Alternatively, go and spend the night with me and obfuscator 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffwilson99 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Threesome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 No sheep allowed. Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude? Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you? Camera guy: still laughing Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy Camera guy: runs away still laughing Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]! Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Saw this pic somewhere a few days ago, it struck a chord with me. Pretty much every personal self-development venture summed up in a simple picture: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Does that cycle repeat ad infinitum? "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Does that cycle repeat ad infinitum? For separate endeavors yeah In other news, a girl on POF has her occupation set as "future nurse." Well shit, I should just change my occupation to "future retired millionaire" since we're allowed to do that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxx Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Hmm... I may have gotten my 17 year old girlfriend pregnant. This could be unpleasant.When you find out whether she is or not, just think carefully about what you two want to do. But for now, just take a deep breath and stay rational. Something like this can very easily cloud one's judgement and thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Does that cycle repeat ad infinitum? For separate endeavors yeah In other news, a girl on POF has her occupation set as "future nurse." Well shit, I should just change my occupation to "future retired trillionaire" since we're allowed to do that ftfy Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Does that cycle repeat ad infinitum? For separate endeavors yeah In other news, a girl on POF has her occupation set as "future nurse." Well shit, I should just change my occupation to "future retired trillionaire" since we're allowed to do that ftfy I don't think inflation will be that bad in the future. "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Hmm... I may have gotten my 17 year old girlfriend pregnant. This could be unpleasant. Dude your life is GAME OVER if you decide to be a father at your age 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxx Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Hmm... I may have gotten my 17 year old girlfriend pregnant. This could be unpleasant. Dude your life is GAME OVER if you decide to be a father at your age Well it will be with that sort of attitude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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