would you die for your beliefs?

[jayc3399]

It all depends on what you beliefs are, I have beliefs, but no in god. I'm Atheist. But I would die for some of my other beliefs. Like doing good no matter what, always treating people fairly. I would die for Love, my girlfriend and my family. But I wouldn't die for God.

[pianofrieak2]

Actually, pianofreak, the American founding fathers weren't Christians at all. They were Deists.

 

 

 

Well, you do remember what you were taught. Unfortunately, that's not exactly correct. 27 of the 56 had seminary degrees and even Benjamin Franklin, the least religious of them, wrote a letter asking Congress to open in prayer every morning before conducting business.

 

 

 

At any rate, the Qu'ran seems no worse than the Bible to me. There's PLENTY of violent commands by "God" in both, and the vast, vast majority of "dedicated" Christians that I've met were nothing like Jesus at all. Just look at Pat Robertson!

 

 

 

To quote Mahatma Gahndi, "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ."

 

 

 

That's a great quote. I agree with it 100% for many Christians. But you see, Christianity is all about Jesus. That's what I am: a Jesus follower.

 

 

 

Piano, Islam does not teach its followers to go kill the infidels. Believing this is very unfair to the majority of Islam followers, who believe in not killing, like other Bible-based religions. It is a perversion of the Islam religion - a sect - that believes terrorism is justified.

 

 

 

Here is an interesting article, called "Arab Majority May Not Stay Silent Forever." I found it interesting and informative: http://www.nysun.com/article/36110?page_no=1

 

 

 

Islam is, as the article said, in a crossroad. On one hand are the radical Islamic fascists who are oftentimes the leaders and imams who control their (usually illiterate) people through fear. It often has to do with power, but the Koran does say to kill the infidels.

 

 

 

The ones who CAN read are oftentimes the males who actually read the original version in aramaic. Not the politically correct Koran that's in English (that would get sued out of existence if they put that in there).

[Nenga]

 

 

 

 

 

ok what if i wanted to chose "i wont do squat for my religion" or to shorten it "hell no" wheres that and to all the talk about dieing for your country why would you do it your gonna die for another thing to start up two weeks later besides i live in america ain't worth die'n for

 

 

 

Woah there hold your horses! First of all what do you mean by something starting two weeks later? I respect your belief that you dont want to die for your country. but use some periods in that paragraph so its easier to make sense of. :wink:

 

 

 

but it's fun not using periods i like to make ppl go :-k

[FuBai]

I would never die for a concept, especialy scince I hold all my beliefs in doubt - does God exist - i do not think so, but I constantly doubt wether he does or does not, in some capacity. Do I believe in individual liberty, yes I do, but I constantly doubt that this is a right at all.

 

 

 

To die for my beliefs would be stupid, but I would risk death defending myself or those close to me. I probably wouldn't risk torture for it though.

 

 

 

EDIT: after reading alot of the material above me, I would like to clear up some issues that seem to have occured. I have read the Qu'ran, and I have read 80-90% of the bible. Why? Because it interests me, even though I am a self confessed atheist.

 

 

 

There are many, many similarities - not only in simple and usualy universal morals, but even in the texts that the faiths are derived from. Both Christianity and Islam both use the Jewish Torah, which forms a large basis to thier morality - the Ten Commandments etc - this book is refered to as the Old Testemant in Christianity. Islam derives alot from the Injil, which, although differing according to schollar, is the New Testament. The birth of Jesus is actualy accounted in the Qu'ran. Compare the Hadith and the Parables and accounts of Jesus - there is great similarity in all of the qawl, fi'l and taqrir (words, actions and approval) of both Jesus and Mohammed. The sira and fiqh both relate to slightly different objects, but the trend of reasonsing, teaching and moral is clearly similar.

 

 

 

The religions, therefore, are very much alike. The core tenants of both religions forbid the killing of others - Mohammed especialy told his folowers to "respect the other peoples of the book". An anology that has been made is that Islam, Christianity and Juadism are all blind men feeling the same elephant - one has the leg and says the creature is thick and strong, another has the ear, and says the creature is round and flat, the last has the tail, and says the creature is long and thin. It is only when we open our eyes do we see the bigger picture.

 

 

 

After coming to this conclusion, we must say then, why are the cultures which are based upon the two religions of Islam and Christanity are so different, if the religions them selves are still so alike. There are manifold reasons for this, but the main one is the way in which the religion is interpreted by Imams and Bishops alike.

[SirHartlar]

It would depend entirely on the situation; I am EXTREMELY anti-prejudice, but I would only die if I knew it would make a difference.

[droppedmeatpie]

if i was at gun point and some one asked me about my faith i would defently claim my love for jesus

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

jesus rocks!!

[Biabf]

Change the options. I wouldn't die for my beliefs. I'm Athiest btw.

[Rob2006]

as someone posted on the 1st page, my vote isnt there either : hell no

 

 

 

belief- means something u BELIEVE to b true...which doesnt mean it is. so u wud b die for sumthin that possibly doesnt exist?! :wall:

[Testudude]

I wouldn't want to die for no reason, my answer isn't up there so i can't vote :?

[Aijiru]

Quoting a book of Terry Pratchett, "Interesting times"

 

 

 

'But there are causes worth dying for' said Butterfly.

 

 

 

'No there aren't! Because you've only got one life but you can pick up another five causes on any street corner!'

 

 

 

It resumes pretty well my opinion on this matter :-s

[fanheader]

im not a christian or anything.. id die for a few close freinds and sum members of my family, mainly my mum.. but thats about it

 

 

 

 

 

Ditto,I'd die for most of my friends though.not just my closest.I'd die for alot of people.But that situation doesn't happen everyday.

 

 

 

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[Quer_Skulll]

your beliefs are not necissarely your religion..

 

if my death would mean the end of poverty, war, corruption, disease and starvation then yes i would die for that.

 

 

 

but that is not the case, my death will mean nothing, just another life ending and that is all.

 

so no i chose life.

[BlueLancer]

if my death would mean the end of poverty, war, corruption, disease and starvation then yes i would die for that.

 

 

 

 

I agree with that, if it was for a good cause with a chance to succeed after my death, I'd volunteer to give my life for it.

 

 

 

But dying for my own beliefs, no. To save another innocent human, yes. Err... I don't remember posting on this thread before but it seems I did, 2 years ago. My views haven't changed since then. I believe nobody has the right to kill an innocent child, if somebody wants to do it, I'll sacrifice my life giving him a lesson if necessary and protecting the innocent human (modern terrorists are a good example no matter what their ideology; They are targetting innocent civilians)

 

 

 

Think how many people died defending communism. Think what has become of communism today, were those lives spent well? Maybe it changed the world, but the belief of a supreme government form called 'communism' did not fill the world. That's just one sad example.

[sprites]

NO belief is worth dying for.

 

 

 

If someone points a gun at me asking what I believe, I'm not going to stand there and let him shoot me. Better to die trying than to give up hope.

[inureface]

Though I don't see what good it does for anyone by me dying for Christianity just to make a statement, sure, its called walking the walk, backing the smack, stepping up to the plate. But I wouldn't really blame anyone who got scared, theres alot of people who have alot to live for, and to have it taken away like that is just mehh :-k

[Jimmyd17]

Being an atheist it doesn't apply to me. Even if I were to have grown up with a religous background I don't think I would. I personally don't see the logic in living your life conservatively just for the possibility of having another. Carpe diem anybody?

 

 

 

Dieing for my counrty and my beliefs of freedom and equality and whatnot wouldn't be first on the list for me either, although it could possibly happen because I'm willing to fight for my country and the beliefs it beholds (Canada fyi...) If I happen to die during the fight for my rights then so be it. I'd want whats best for the people I know and love so if it comes to a fight with the very real possibility of death, I'd definitely fly at the chance.

[viktoraik]

would you die for your beliefs? say your a christian, and a guy with gun says "do u love Jesus" would u say yes knowing you would die? or if your a muslim "do u believe in mohammad" same with other beliefs, would u die for yours?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

is this a joke thread? this who would die for belfies has no life and should take suicide L=L geeks

[indy500fan]

 

would you die for your beliefs? say your a christian, and a guy with gun says "do u love Jesus" would u say yes knowing you would die? or if your a muslim "do u believe in mohammad" same with other beliefs, would u die for yours?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

is this a joke thread? this who would die for belfies has no life and should take suicide L=L geeks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why did you bump up a month and a half old post just to post spam?

[cadburys_egg]

Dang, too late to post a witty comment about thread necromancy. :'(

[Satenza]

Dang, too late to post a witty comment about thread necromancy. :'(

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I wouldn't as I am atheist and i don't agree with the comment made by the bumper. But if someone has something valuable to add then they should.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That wasn't the case this time. #-o

[petey]

1st option - no, id never do such a thing.

 

 

 

2nd option - i agree with this one, but, i just wouldnt do it, its not like i wouldnt do it because i was nervous, its because id never harm another human for somebody...or something.

 

 

 

3rd option - read above.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

=]

[hellbellz]

Maybe. Jesus died for us and died for sins. I'm no Jesus, but I just couldn't stand to die for my religion, sorry GOD. I would because I would go to heaven for belief of my religion [Christianity].

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No idea. :-s

[apinagez]

Dang, too late to post a witty comment about thread necromancy. :'(

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What has been happening to this thread isn't necromancy anymore, it's boomeranging.

[Fadfdfd]

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When someone held a gun up to your head and asked you that question, would you then? :roll:

[Gabe93walla]

No, nothing is worth dying for. I see no point in all the world's conflicts... people who start wars are idiots and should use logic instead of violence to solve problems. Anyone with respect for others knows what I'm talking about.