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Efficiency over Enjoyment


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Most of us run through Runescape at a blinding pace. We are always calculating xp/gp, xp/hr, gp/hr, or some other crazy ratio that somehow defines how productive we are on this game. We brainstorm and work hard to completely maximize these ratios and then brag and mystify others with these numbers.



Then today, I was talking to a friend of mine and I realized I was playing in HD mode. Now, it's not horribly laggy, but you lose a few split seconds every time you teleport or load a new area of the map. I innocently threw a pm to smellysocks to see how he felt and asked: "Do you runecraft in low detail too?", receiving the response that, he too plays in low detail to maximize profits per hour.



It was only afterward that I really started to think about my method for playing. It is not wrong, of course, but have I, along with the rest of the "elite" population, completely forgotten about enjoyment in the game and become too lost in numbers? It was only today when I played in HD that I realized just how wonderful the new graphics are and just how much better the area looks, all of these looks I have been sacrificing since HD was released -- and just to get a measly 500 more xp or one more trip per hour.



This made me think of the last one-player RPG I got into, Oblivion. When I run around in that game, I just wander aimlessly around the beautiful landscape, talking to whoever I run into and killing them if they rub me the wrong way. I never give a thought to levels or how quickly I am going-- but rather play the game for what it is.



Now, there is no right or wrong way to play the game, but I encourage you to just stop and think.



You might scare yourself.

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i do calculations when I'm focused on a certain skill. But when the skills are combat related, I don't really care that much about exp/h I just do what I want to do.
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Well I play in HD unless I am doing a quest that involves combat or dangerous material.

I could care less about the measly 500xp per hour I try not to exactly calculate all of my earnings per hour but it would be helpful to have a general idea. I mean 500xp will add up over time but its worth the sacrafice for the amazing graphics. Usually I have more than enough money for what I like to do [Rc, wc, FM, Cook] (like 12m cash not much but i never spend more than half of it.) I cannot remember the last time i constantly grinded on a skill and doing nothing else if i was bored. Thats why i have 85 fletch and 47 herb Fletching is fun and not that much money loss, but on the other hand herblore is a huge money drain and just does not seem fun to me.

So overall it's all about personal preference if the person is grinding a skill they might want the extra 500xp, I on the other hand would not.

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For training skills, I'd say my calculating-to-training ratio is roughly 3 to 1, i.e. I spend 3 times as much time calculating as training. Hence the stats :wall:



I play HD, though. My laptop's DPI is too high to play in regular without lowering the resolution. Other then that, efficiency over everything. I do the fun stuff like fight pits, but training and playing don't mix.
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i always play as efficient as possible because theres always so much more to do :P if it weren't for resizable window in hd I would be playing low detail for less lag as well (so now I play hd with all graphic options at its lowest) :D

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To me, efficiency is enjoyment. I might just be in the minority, but I personally like leveling up on every single game I played. It's that whole RPG/Dungeons and Dragons aspect where you watch your character grow and I like it. Sometimes I get bored of training and in that case I take a break and do something else fun.

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I've been playing for 2 years and could care less about EXP per hour. I still have the skills of someone who has played for like 18 months >.>

I socialize more than skill. Now monwy, I am afraid I am a little Efficient about that. I hate being poor. -.-
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It depends on my mood. On one side, I'm a complete nerd and just love crunching numbers to get the answer I'm looking for (For example, I have to kill 150 black demons, how much slayer exp will that get me, as well as combat and hp exp) and on the other hand, I hate looking at video games from a "businessy" standpoint.



It didn't really bother me when the wilderness ditch came out, nor other mini-games and updates that allegedly made certain skills to easy, harder, or slower. In my 5 years of playing Runescape, I can say I've never done any mindless grinding to get my levels (Highest right now being Fishing), which is probably why I don't have any 99's. I go by more of a slow and steady, quick enough that I'm not still training on Goblins several years later, but not so hard that I burn out my interest in the game becaue I'm so terribly bored with it. Keep everything fresh.



I can't tell you how much exp you might get fishing monkfish per hour, but I can answer any question about any area in the game. I'm more interested in the lore and story, not the grinding.
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I totally agree with you lalala. I can't STAND mindless grinding for efficiency and profit and blah. It bores me to sleep. But if it is something I can enjoy, I may have a go at it. Those Elder Scroll games (Morrowind and Oblivion) are beautiful. I too get completely lost in those games. It's why I've never beaten them. :roll: >.< Lol, too bad RuneScape can't be like that. <3:
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Unless I am working towards a goal, I usually just let things happen and do it in quantities of 1000, then go do something else. I hardly ever stop and use a calculator or the like to work out what I need.

My relaxation method involves a bottle of lotion, beautiful women, and partial nudity. Yes I get massages.

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I would appreciate the graphics even more if my computer could handle them. :<img src=:' />



However, I believe I play the parts of the game that I do for my enjoyment. I like to talk in Clan Chat a lot, which is probably my favourite thing about Runescape. If it wasn't for the community, I know for certain that I would not continue to play.


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Unless I am working towards a goal, I usually just let things happen and do it in quantities of 1000, then go do something else. I hardly ever stop and use a calculator or the like to work out what I need.


Lol, sounds just like me. Whenever i buy seeds, or buy just about anything, i buy things in quantities of 100s of 1000s. It just simply annoys me to look at any other number. And I just let it take me wherever that amount brings me.

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I always play in HD, can't stand Low Detail anymore :P

But yea, I can't keep focused on one skill for too long, max for about a few hours, then I have to do something else. I could say mine for 3 hours, and not play RS for 4 weeks. But when I come back I have to do something that's not mining, as that is the last thing I did. Never power trained anything before, and it kinda shows in my skills after playing for almost 4 years, but meh, there you go.
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I always train on what I enjoy and like, that's why I don't level so fast.



But I'd rather get there the slow way and enjoy doing it.

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I guess it just comes down to what mood I'm in. Sometimes I log in with no desire to train at all, so I play a mini-game (combat or otherwise) or hang out with friends and chat. Quests are always fun, sometimes I even go help some newbies do F2P quests... Brings back memories. :P

And sometimes I find that I'll enjoy trainning. Mining is one of my favourite skills (don't hit me!) and I find it relaxing to just grab my pickaxe and head out to a nice quiet area where I don't have to compete for the ores, and just enjoy the mining. When the PvP worlds are released I'll be able to make any mining location I want a "nice and quiet area where I don't have to compete for the ores" :twisted:
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I calculate/plan things out while i'm training So i know what i'm gonna do next and how i'm gonna do it without burning all my money :thumbsup:

(i'm currently trying to find a cheaper method to 80-99 construction)



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It's just what you take joyment from:



I for one really enjoy DOING these calculations: trying to imporve my efficiency is the fun of runescape for me (at least... while skilling).

Others might like the actual "goal": and hence will also strive for maximizing effeciency.



While again other people like the actual "road" of getting levels, you won't see them going through extremes to get a certain level: they just want to have fun at every moment!

First they came to fishing
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't fishing

Then they came to the yews
and I didn't speak out because I didn't cut yews

Then they came for the ores
and I didn't speak out because I didn't collect ores

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.


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enjoyment > efficiency tbh, if u think otherwise, take a break from the game, and think about it,

i play rs to enjoy it and not to overwelm ppl with xp i got an hour, if you hate a method of training but still use it to use it because its fast, then dont play the game.

i personaly did monkfish till 99 fishing at a rate of 30k xp/h, while i could of picked barbarian or shilo, almost 2 times as fast,

just because i enjoy it more

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I don't do that. In fact, I have never done that even though I was on the top 50 for over a year (fighters hiscore only). :twisted:



I don't care which place gives the *most* exp, if I don't like the place, I never go there. I trained in wildy all the time even though many other places were more efficient and safer. ;) I just liked it better where I was since it was more exciting.



That's why I hate when people put their oar in and give unsolicited advice like "Meili you should go to _____ it has the best exp for your level" kind of thing. I don't play for exp.

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Wow quite a deep post.



I've tried incredibly hard to maintain the fun factor while grinding away towards my goal of 99 mining. I never play in low detail as I love how the Al Kharid desert is now much more appealing to my eyes in high detail :). Often times many try to strike up conversations with me while I'm mining and I rarily ignore them. I chat the hours away with them even if it costs me 5-10k of mining xp per hour. I never establish a goal xp that I must achieve everyday and I never just stick solely with efficient powermining. I take regular breaks and indulge in a minigame like Fist of Guthix or even walk around aimlessly and look at the scenery. At the end of the day, the game loses its true purpose if we just focus on menial tasks day after day and not mix up the never ending cycle...or forget to "have fun" as you say ;).
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