leetnoob Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 I don't think thats quite possible to slow the grinder down though, since previously you had to put the bone in, grind, then fill the bucket and repeat...1 at a time...(Unless I'm really tired right now and not thinking right/Never knew you could put multiple bones in) ~Dan U could only do 1 bone at a time...which was really annoying when going for 60 prayer, no access to altar and didn't wanna buy more bones or kill more just to get the bones on the slow grind to 60, u could only do 1 at a time and it took 3 clicks for one pot of bonemeal :wall:...that is what really, really annoying :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makoto_the_Phoenix Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Just so that there's no doubt, Prayer was, by your own definition, killed back when Construction/Gilded Altars came out. Unlike the Ectofuntus, which you have to do ALL by yourself, you can have a friend light the lamps to get the highest bonus possible. Oh, and there's no annoying grinding process involved, either. Linux User/Enthusiast | Full-Stack Software Engineer | Stack Overflow Member | GIMP User...Alright, the Elf City update lured me back to RS over a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragg3802 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Yep, Jagex released "Grind-X" for Grinding Bones & gathering Bone Meal. Good job Jagex, no really good job. :thumbdown: :roll: I don't get why Prayer "officially" is dead, so please tell me. Dharoks, emo's ultimate weapon if you know what i'm sayin. :lol:Very nice 10/10For a second when I was looking at your drop-list picture. Ilooked at the dragon longsword and said "They have a dragon longsword now??" ohh I'm tired :wall:..., then I noticed a gravestone where our tank was supposed to be and my health was a 1 digit number again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golvellius Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Actually, it died when they nerfed Pest Control. I have found memories of going from 98 to 99 prayer at pest control. Using bones with the altar is god awful. I did that from like 70 something to 98. Ectofuctus seems not to bad now, especially if its faster and more automated. Now they just need a way to pipe slime up to the altar.... Exclusive Legacy Mode Player He just successfully trolled you with "courtesy" and managed to get a reaction out of you. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anish00b Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 in the past you had to go downstairs get the ecto from pool then go back up put eachbone...grind it...put it in pots and keep repeating until you had the same number of ecto as you did pots now i think its just a case of going and getting a glass of water/eating some crisps/ changing the channel while the bones are being grinded signature your as this use backwards this read to enough smart were you if^^^^read backwards^^^^ http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?f=113&t=757562&p=6009903^^^^The Best Melee Training Spot In The Game^^^^ http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=786213^^^^The new Bandits^^^^ even i have the misfile craze!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin113 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 You... are... a... moron... :roll: Seriously. -.- Have you even tried out Grind-x, it just makes it require slightly less clicking and unless you were afking while doing it normally, makes it no slower. And you still have to go and get the ecto from downstairs, this is only to do with grinding the bones!! :wall: It's still waay better to use a guilded alter. Thanks to Quarra for the awesome sig!Xbox360 Gamertag = Tintin113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Everyone who says prayer has been easy with Gilded altar is just saying it cause they never got to use it or has not experienced "Prayer" Now i have used it: and i can tell you this. I used over 80M cash (Cash dosen't come by it self)...and i always got numb in my hands/and got very tired and overworked my wrist. As for Ectofundus: it's not easy... You still need to gather Bucket of slime...and god knows that take time. But i bet Ectofundus is cheaper option, but gilded is still fastest from where i stand. SO AGAIN: Prayer has not and will never be easy: in exchange for your millions of gp+killing your wrist/hand you get FAST LEVELS. IT's not easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anish00b Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 You... are... a... moron... :roll: Seriously. -.- Have you even tried out Grind-x, it just makes it require slightly less clicking and unless you were afking while doing it normally, makes it no slower. And you still have to go and get the ecto from downstairs, this is only to do with grinding the bones!! :wall: It's still waay better to use a guilded alter. screw you buddy! now as i was saying the key point in my post was the word "think"....so...YOU'RE A MORON and grinding was what took ages anyway, the pool takes matter of seconds because of the auto-fill thin that they impleneted signature your as this use backwards this read to enough smart were you if^^^^read backwards^^^^ http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?f=113&t=757562&p=6009903^^^^The Best Melee Training Spot In The Game^^^^ http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=786213^^^^The new Bandits^^^^ even i have the misfile craze!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omali Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Recipe for an epic thread: ___ skill/activity is officially killed. {insert GF variation} {INsert play on Jagex} Signed, {Name blotched out by tears} P.S: So I'll see you next week to cry about the Behind the Scenes, then? Looking forward to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodArgon Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Anymore with updates its the same thing. "WAAAAA!!! JAGEX KILLED _______ GF!!!11!1!111*shift*!" Really, get over it, it wasnt that much of a big update. In the time it takes you to do one load of ecto, I can get double the xp on guilded alters, so, please, shut up before you even know what your talking about. If you can provide conclusive proof that this makes it faster than guilded alters, then Ill consider it, but, Ill bet you read the update and was like "zomg I can make skill killed thread on forums!z1" but then you failed because everyone hates you. 99 Crafting :: 39,750th || 99 Attack :: 1,775th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Everyone who says prayer has been easy with Gilded altar is just saying it cause they never got to use it or has not experienced "Prayer" Now i have used it: and i can tell you this. I used over 80M cash (Cash dosen't come by it self)...and i always got numb in my hands/and got very tired and overworked my wrist. As for Ectofundus: it's not easy... You still need to gather Bucket of slime...and god knows that take time. But i bet Ectofundus is cheaper option, but gilded is still fastest from where i stand. SO AGAIN: Prayer has not and will never be easy: in exchange for your millions of gp+killing your wrist/hand you get FAST LEVELS. IT's not easy. Ok, so prayer is not as easy as cooking, but what most people compare prayer to is, well, prayer, and particularly the old-school way of training it- and in that sense you are talking absolute crap. Compared to praying bones gilded altar is 3.5 times cheaper and 2.5 times faster, and compared to the old ecto, altar is 10 times as fast and still a bit cheaper. If you say your fingers got numb getting prayer up with using the gilded altar then that's just ridiculous compared to what most oldschool prayers had to go through. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triquos Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Anymore with updates its the same thing. "WAAAAA!!! JAGEX KILLED _______ GF!!!11!1!111*shift*!" Really, get over it, it wasnt that much of a big update. In the time it takes you to do one load of ecto, I can get double the xp on guilded alters, so, please, shut up before you even know what your talking about. If you can provide conclusive proof that this makes it faster than guilded alters, then Ill consider it, but, Ill bet you read the update and was like "zomg I can make skill killed thread on forums!z1" but then you failed because everyone hates you. LMAO took the words right out of my mouth. Anyways, I don't see how this a downside. I'm 99 prayer and the easier it is to train it the better. More high levels = more high level updates. Also like others say, guilded altar takes next to no time, not to mention the cheap price of marrentils. This update just means the people that don't have the con level to make a guilded altar, can get prayer up easier than they could before. Either way it's still a win, and the more high levels, the better. I see nothing bad from this \ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin113 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 You... are... a... moron... :roll: Seriously. -.- Have you even tried out Grind-x, it just makes it require slightly less clicking and unless you were afking while doing it normally, makes it no slower. And you still have to go and get the ecto from downstairs, this is only to do with grinding the bones!! :wall: It's still waay better to use a guilded alter. screw you buddy! now as i was saying the key point in my post was the word "think"....so...YOU'RE A MORON and grinding was what took ages anyway, the pool takes matter of seconds because of the auto-fill thin that they impleneted Wow you remind me of some chav at my old school who once said: I hate you mate. And the moron thing was actually adressed to the moron than made this topic. :thumbsup: Thanks to Quarra for the awesome sig!Xbox360 Gamertag = Tintin113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Everyone who says prayer has been easy with Gilded altar is just saying it cause they never got to use it or has not experienced "Prayer" Now i have used it: and i can tell you this. I used over 80M cash (Cash dosen't come by it self)...and i always got numb in my hands/and got very tired and overworked my wrist. As for Ectofundus: it's not easy... You still need to gather Bucket of slime...and god knows that take time. But i bet Ectofundus is cheaper option, but gilded is still fastest from where i stand. SO AGAIN: Prayer has not and will never be easy: in exchange for your millions of gp+killing your wrist/hand you get FAST LEVELS. IT's not easy. Ok, so prayer is not as easy as cooking, but what most people compare prayer to is, well, prayer, and particularly the old-school way of training it- and in that sense you are talking absolute crap. Compared to praying bones gilded altar is 3.5 times cheaper and 2.5 times faster, and compared to the old ecto, altar is 10 times as fast and still a bit cheaper. If you say your fingers got numb getting prayer up with using the gilded altar then that's just ridiculous compared to what most oldschool prayers had to go through. um....i would gladely switch places with a oldschool. Cause quite honestly? i wouldn't mind burying Dragon bones all the way.... But i am not oldschool: and oldschools had advantange of getting the levels up as they were there in the beginning. I also used 6m+3-5 days on getting construction level to make it as well. So old school can get the hell lost. This is not OLD SCHOOL AGE....so rather going back on "Omg back then it was so hard!!!!" take a break and realize: the game has been updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triquos Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Oops double post, delete pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirlessWig Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 I just tested the automated proces. It takes 4-5 minutes to get a load done, in other words, 4.5k exp every 4-5 minutes. It's nowhere faster than before. Click here for my guide on how to solo the D Kings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervinator_9 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Why if i skill is easier is it offically killed? It aint like they just made cooking or fletching easier is it, prayer is a bloody time consuming skill to level. Also from what ive read this method is still just as/no faster than using a G altar, so basically the skill has changed very little. God, i seriously think there will be a post on this forum soon claiming the sky is about fall... THE END IS NIGH. Theres a fine line between not listening and not caring,I like to think I walk this line every day. Pinning blame on Jagex is like trying to put pants on an old man. You both know he needs them, but he'll just keep dancing around, avoiding them at all costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Everyone who says prayer has been easy with Gilded altar is just saying it cause they never got to use it or has not experienced "Prayer" Now i have used it: and i can tell you this. I used over 80M cash (Cash dosen't come by it self)...and i always got numb in my hands/and got very tired and overworked my wrist. As for Ectofundus: it's not easy... You still need to gather Bucket of slime...and god knows that take time. But i bet Ectofundus is cheaper option, but gilded is still fastest from where i stand. SO AGAIN: Prayer has not and will never be easy: in exchange for your millions of gp+killing your wrist/hand you get FAST LEVELS. IT's not easy. Ok, so prayer is not as easy as cooking, but what most people compare prayer to is, well, prayer, and particularly the old-school way of training it- and in that sense you are talking absolute crap. Compared to praying bones gilded altar is 3.5 times cheaper and 2.5 times faster, and compared to the old ecto, altar is 10 times as fast and still a bit cheaper. If you say your fingers got numb getting prayer up with using the gilded altar then that's just ridiculous compared to what most oldschool prayers had to go through. um....i would gladely switch places with a oldschool. Cause quite honestly? i wouldn't mind burying Dragon bones all the way.... But i am not oldschool: and oldschools had advantange of getting the levels up as they were there in the beginning. I also used 6m+3-5 days on getting construction level to make it as well. So old school can get the hell lost. This is not OLD SCHOOL AGE....so rather going back on "Omg back then it was so hard!!!!" take a break and realize: the game has been updated. Was there one singe point in the whole piece you wrote? I argued that prayer is actually dead easy now and you start telling me to never remember what was so good about the game most of the prayers used to love. I'm sorry but you and your overworked wrist(which isn't very ethical to be talked about on these forums) should accept that talking about the old is never bad- it helps us to remember and learn from the days far gone. In this situation for example, comparing the old and new versions of training methods helps me to explain why you are wrong in thinking that prayer is a hard skill. Oldschool can get the hell lost? With no respect to those who have been before you, who is going to value your opinion? First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triquos Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Why if i skill is easier is it offically killed? It aint like they just made cooking or fletching easier is it, prayer is a bloody time consuming skill to level. Also from what ive read this method is still just as/no faster than using a G altar, so basically the skill has changed very little. God, i seriously think there will be a post on this forum soon claiming the sky is about fall... THE END IS NIGH. :lol: Too late.. viewtopic.php?f=30&t=763470&start=20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervinator_9 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Why if i skill is easier is it offically killed? It aint like they just made cooking or fletching easier is it, prayer is a bloody time consuming skill to level. Also from what ive read this method is still just as/no faster than using a G altar, so basically the skill has changed very little. God, i seriously think there will be a post on this forum soon claiming the sky is about fall... THE END IS NIGH. :lol: Too late.. viewtopic.php?f=30&t=763470&start=20 I only wish i was surprised -.- Theres a fine line between not listening and not caring,I like to think I walk this line every day. Pinning blame on Jagex is like trying to put pants on an old man. You both know he needs them, but he'll just keep dancing around, avoiding them at all costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup3rpur Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 if you could buy the buckets in the ge and the bones were offered as fast as u can fill vials with water...then id consider it ;) Retired after 2 accounts and 8 years of scapin...2 accounts over 2,000 total...may my life rest in peaceBrawl Code:5327-0581-3706 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morino Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 this update actually helped me I stockpiled 1250 ectoplasm back when buckets of slime were still sold on charter ships but they cant be noted so they were too much of a pain to drop I can't see this as a terribly viable source of prayer xp unless you despise finding open gilded altars or just happen to have a stockpile of ectoplasm lying around 203rd to 99 farming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlanders Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Ecto is known to be slow, even with grind X, it doesn't change much. A skill is "killed" when something huge happens to it making it times easier than before. This is not it. 2480+ total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Everyone who says prayer has been easy with Gilded altar is just saying it cause they never got to use it or has not experienced "Prayer" Now i have used it: and i can tell you this. I used over 80M cash (Cash dosen't come by it self)...and i always got numb in my hands/and got very tired and overworked my wrist. As for Ectofundus: it's not easy... You still need to gather Bucket of slime...and god knows that take time. But i bet Ectofundus is cheaper option, but gilded is still fastest from where i stand. SO AGAIN: Prayer has not and will never be easy: in exchange for your millions of gp+killing your wrist/hand you get FAST LEVELS. IT's not easy. Ok, so prayer is not as easy as cooking, but what most people compare prayer to is, well, prayer, and particularly the old-school way of training it- and in that sense you are talking absolute crap. Compared to praying bones gilded altar is 3.5 times cheaper and 2.5 times faster, and compared to the old ecto, altar is 10 times as fast and still a bit cheaper. If you say your fingers got numb getting prayer up with using the gilded altar then that's just ridiculous compared to what most oldschool prayers had to go through. um....i would gladely switch places with a oldschool. Cause quite honestly? i wouldn't mind burying Dragon bones all the way.... But i am not oldschool: and oldschools had advantange of getting the levels up as they were there in the beginning. I also used 6m+3-5 days on getting construction level to make it as well. So old school can get the hell lost. This is not OLD SCHOOL AGE....so rather going back on "Omg back then it was so hard!!!!" take a break and realize: the game has been updated. Was there one singe point in the whole piece you wrote? I argued that prayer is actually dead easy now and you start telling me to never remember what was so good about the game most of the prayers used to love. I'm sorry but you and your overworked wrist(which isn't very ethical to be talked about on these forums) should accept that talking about the old is never bad- it helps us to remember and learn from the days far gone. In this situation for example, comparing the old and new versions of training methods helps me to explain why you are wrong in thinking that prayer is a hard skill. Oldschool can get the hell lost? With no respect to those who have been before you, who is going to value your opinion? Well let me tell you something: Whenever a skill is "HARD", to a oldschool it's "Extra Hard". Now that's not my problem and everything a skill gets a update: which somehow gives a other way of leveling it. It's not my problem. As for talking about the old...it was you who brought oldschoolers up right? So why are you talking about old times... Everytime a skill is measured of how hard or easy it is: it's always "Oldschools....". OLDSCHOOL TIME IS OVER. END IT... + There's alot factors in OLD TIMES and New times. Example: prices.... Oldschoolers= Could get party hats and get rich. I don't give respect to Oldschoolers if they think they can decide a skill's difficulty based on their first year on Runescape game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blingkachi50 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 You don't even know if this raises the EXP per HR significantly enough to warrant the extra hours spent sloshing through and gathering ectoplasm + bone meal for an extra what, 60xp per bone? Altar's always going to be the choice for me. There's always an open one and I never have to collect ectoplasm again. Now if they still allowed you to BUY ectoplasm from the Charter Ships and this update came out...then I might've had something to squawk about with you ;) Woaaaaaaahhh, it's Lady Ninane <3. [blingkachi50] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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