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[scootlaboot]

yes it should. so should drinking.

 

 

 

Prohibition fails, get used to it.

[Will H]

It should be illegal in public, but you should be able to do it in your own home. Similarly, if they ever legalise marijuana, it should also be strictly limited to private home use.

 

 

 

This method minimises the negatives of restricting smoking (it's still a taxable product), and yet keeps the positives (less health concerns over passive smoking). As long as I don't have to smell someone else's smoke and don't have to coat my lungs with tar, I don't mind someone else smoking.

 

 

 

In the UK, we've already banned it in public unventilated areas, but I reckon we can do one better and ban it in all public areas. But, we will never be able to stop people smoking in their own homes, otherwise it'll just be the American Prohibition all over again.

 

 

 

EDIT: Now I've thought about it, I suppose it could be allowed in public designated 'smoking rooms', where the smoke is ventilated away.

[RichieMcD]

Baning smokes from public buildings is the perfect measurement as far as I'm concerned. Smoking in the street and your own home should be allowed IMO as there is enough ventilation not to cause a serious threat of second hand smoke.

 

 

 

There are so many other things out there which can be used in moderation or abused. People abuse smoking, fatty food eating, drinking or other activities like driving (speeding, dangerous driving). Banning smoking is unfair to smokers who don't abuse it (go through pack or more a day). If governments want to impose a serious curbing on smokes make them very expensive. In Ireland it's seriously taxed, it costs 8.10 euro a pack, which is 10.20 roughly.

[Lenticular_J]

Yep, illegal in public, legal in homes. It would suck if it was made illegal period, it pays boatloads to Texas education...

[I_am_Geed]

in many people's personall opinions, it should be illegal because the benifits are extremly outweighed by the cost.

 

 

 

But, as a point made in the first few posts, it is a freaking huge industry, making a lot of money to keep some economies somewhat stable.

 

 

 

Im fine if people want to slowly kill themselves and smoke in their own homes and such, but out in public it should be 100% illegal.

[Loffelicious]

in many people's personall opinions, it should be illegal because the benifits are extremly outweighed by the cost.

 

 

 

But, as a point made in the first few posts, it is a freaking huge industry, making a lot of money to keep some economies somewhat stable.

 

 

 

Im fine if people want to slowly kill themselves and smoke in their own homes and such, but out in public it should be 100% illegal.

 

 

 

 

 

Word. Snus for the win:)

[BlueLancer]

My opinion is, that as long as it only bothers yourself, and you have to take the consequences(typo?) and not everyone else, things should'nt be made illegal anywhere.

 

 

 

Check this link out, it is a video that shows an alternate way of getting the nicotine/tobacco you "need". This is a Swedish tobacco product called snus. It is extremely common in Norway and Sweden. I'd say each 3rd male and increasingly more women use this, instead of cigarettes.

 

 

 

Here is an american explaining advantages about it:

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWXaQcBdMBQ

 

 

 

And here is a kind of commercial made by a swedish company:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Enjoy:)

 

 

 

Snus is way better than cigarettes.. Only problem is: It's illegal in a ton of countries, including all EU countries (Sweden has a special permit to sell and produce it). You can buy snus from any european country under the counter without penalties, but if the seller gets caught they will get hefty fines and a possible short jail term for smuggling.

[Loffelicious]

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My opinion is, that as long as it only bothers yourself, and you have to take the consequences(typo?) and not everyone else, things should'nt be made illegal anywhere.

 

 

 

Check this link out, it is a video that shows an alternate way of getting the nicotine/tobacco you "need". This is a Swedish tobacco product called snus. It is extremely common in Norway and Sweden. I'd say each 3rd male and increasingly more women use this, instead of cigarettes.

 

 

 

Here is an american explaining advantages about it:

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWXaQcBdMBQ

 

 

 

And here is a kind of commercial made by a swedish company:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Enjoy:)

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Snus is way better than cigarettes.. Only problem is: It's illegal in a ton of countries, including all EU countries (Sweden has a special permit to sell and produce it). You can buy snus from any european country under the counter without penalties, but if the seller gets caught they will get hefty fines and a possible short jail term for smuggling.

 

 

 

I find it insane that snus is illegal in so many countries as you said.. It's better than cigarettes in every way, both for the user and the enviroment... It's actually concidered as drugs in some countries, I think.. When you look at the damage and cost of using cigarettes, they may want to reconsider legalizing snus..

[The Dark Lord]

As far as public places, it should. As far as private areas, no.

 

 

 

In all honesty, I have smoked 3 cigarettes in a row once before (the only ones I've smoked) and I'm supposed to have asthma and a history of bronchitis as a child. Did the cigarettes really affect me? No. It's something that is exaggerated by a lot of anti-smoking groups. "Even one cigarette will kill you and make you look like this: (old man hooked up to an oxygen tank)"

 

 

 

To be honest, I probably wouldn't smoke another one. It DOES have long-term effects, and some of my friends can testify to this.

 

 

 

As far as public areas, it creates an overwhelming odor when several people are smoking at once. Many people really do have serious health concerns and this is hazardous for them.

[BlueLancer]

Snus

 

 

"There is no compelling evidence that it [snus] has any adverse health consequences. ... Whatever they eventually find out, it is dramatically less dangerous than smoking. [1]"

 

 

 

It does contain much more nicotine than cigarettes, but other than that... It has no 2nd-hand effects on other users, no apparent health hazards, etc... I don't see why it's really illegal at all.

[PoorLepRecon]

I would like smoking to be made illegal, but that would take away the rights of all the people who choose to smoke. I agree that it should be made illegal to smoke at all public places, but allowed on private property. This prevents any people who don't smoke to get ill due to second hand smoke.

[Zierro]

It should be a personal choice, but I do agree that it should be banned from public places. I don't think the government should have any say-so at all when it comes to your personal choices - given that the choices you make don't negatively effect others.

[RichieMcD]

Snus doesn't sound that attractive in my opinion anyway. I like smoking as it will usually give me a warmer feeling when I'm cold but also there is a social aspect to it, when you're out clubbing / partying or at a bar under Irish law I must go outside to smoke where it is then a conversation starter with other smokers. I can't really imagine Snus warming me up or having a social aspect to it :|

[Loffelicious]

Snus doesn't sound that attractive in my opinion anyway. I like smoking as it will usually give me a warmer feeling when I'm cold but also there is a social aspect to it, when you're out clubbing / partying or at a bar under Irish law I must go outside to smoke where it is then a conversation starter with other smokers. I can't really imagine Snus warming me up or having a social aspect to it :|

 

 

 

 

 

Try before judging, I've been smoking once:)

[deloriagod]

Please don't take away my cigarettes.

 

 

 

I'm not opposed to people's right to smoke in private, or even in some cases in bars, but the fact is, people who do not smoke are affected by smokers on public land.

 

 

 

If anybody honestly thinks walking past someone who is smoking or even being around a smoker for a few minutes has significantly increased their chance of getting lung cancer, the gov't is doing a damn good job of scaring people. Think about this:

 

 

 

With one drag of a cigarette, the smoke has been filter by the filter on the cigarette, the smoker's lungs, and then is diluted once it is exhaled. If you breath in any of the smoke, it's incredibly insignificant in comparison to what has gone into the smoker's lungs.

 

 

 

Also, if you're worried about a smoker 30 feet away from you poisoning your lungs, you should start protesting against big factories pollution the air. Imagine how much more damage their smoke is doing than that of a mere cigarette.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think smoking should be banned anywhere except for family establishments. I think the ban on smoking in bars and such places should be lifted. I'm also an ex-smoker and I really only quit because my gf doesn't like it.

[Orpheus]

I never understood why people were so opposed to smoking in bars. Think about what other things people do in bars.

 

 

 

"Excuse me sir, I'm trying to get drunk, so I can drive home, to have unprotected sex this chick I just met, and this guy is blowing smoke in my face."-Some comedian whose name I don't know.

 

 

 

As for making smoking completely illegal, I refer to the alcohol prohibition in the US of the 1920's, and what a colossal failure it was.

 

 

 

I thought Prohibition was in the late 1800's-early 1900's? Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

 

 

You can't make smoking illegal, there's too much revenue generated for the government to not have. Doesn't matter, let them destroy themselves.

[Lenticular_J]

If anybody honestly thinks walking past someone who is smoking or even being around a smoker for a few minutes has significantly increased their chance of getting lung cancer, the gov't is doing a damn good job of scaring people. Think about this:

 

I know, right? My whole family smokes, and I've been fine with it my whole life. I'd prefer what you said, places like restaurants or maybe something like parks being illegal.

 

 

 

I don't understand some people that act all strange when they find out you or your family smokes :/

 

 

 

Ultimania, it was in the 1920's.

[Tbfgraphx14]

Yes you should ban all smoking except for a 10x10 room in kansas.

 

 

 

Seriously, if you banned cigarettes, people would still smoke and the whole system would be moved underground and back alley. And then theres all the more money you have to put into police etc.

[Yomyth105]

i live in US. people make a great push to make smokers quit. in reality i think it should be illegal because it kills u and not only u but the people around u (second hand smoke)

 

 

 

will it ever be illegal?

 

 

 

maybe in some countries but not in the US. Smoking is a huge income that we make and its wat boosts up our economy.

[usahellyes]

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[deloriagod]

i live in US. people make a great push to make smokers quit. in reality i think it should be illegal because it kills u and not only u but the people around u (second hand smoke)

 

 

 

 

=D> Ladies and gentlemen, here is exactly what I was talking about. The gov't has drilled the idea of secondhand smoke being incredibly dangerous so many times that it actually appears to this young man to be a real issue. Sir, if you will please read what I posted earlier you will see secondhand smoke is not a danger to you unless you are in a confined room with a chain smoker or you purposely go around inhaling the smoke as other exhale it.

 

 

 

My opinion is, that as long as it only bothers yourself, and you have to take the consequences(typo?) and not everyone else, things should'nt be made illegal anywhere.

 

 

 

But the problem with smoking in public is that it DOES affect others.

 

 

 

The only bothersome thing I can see about cigarettes in public is the smell. But if that's the case I'd like to get rid of any car and smells bad when it runs as well as people who fail to keep up with their own basic hygienic needs.

[purfishx]

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i live in US. people make a great push to make smokers quit. in reality i think it should be illegal because it kills u and not only u but the people around u (second hand smoke)

 

 

 

 

=D> Ladies and gentlemen, here is exactly what I was talking about. The gov't has drilled the idea of secondhand smoke being incredibly dangerous so many times that it actually appears to this young man to be a real issue. Sir, if you will please read what I posted earlier you will see secondhand smoke is not a danger to you unless you are in a confined room with a chain smoker or you purposely go around inhaling the smoke as other exhale it.

 

 

 

My opinion is, that as long as it only bothers yourself, and you have to take the consequences(typo?) and not everyone else, things should'nt be made illegal anywhere.

 

 

 

But the problem with smoking in public is that it DOES affect others.

 

 

 

The only bothersome thing I can see about cigarettes in public is the smell. But if that's the case I'd like to get rid of any car and smells bad when it runs as well as people who fail to keep up with their own basic hygienic needs.

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I agree with deloria on this. Honestly, secondhand smoke isn't as dangerous as the media states it is.

[Sam]

Hell yes, I don't know why it isn't already.

[Shinjula]

The second hand smoking statistics have been massively over played by various governments, the statistic referred to people living with smokers in low ventilation places, and people working in smoky atmospheres such as bars, but they've been used by various people to imply that any second hand smoke instantly increases your chance of cancer by 30%, its a terrible terrible lie.

 

 

 

I'm quite happy with a general ban on smoking in public places but it goes too far, I really dont see why we can have license smoking premises staffed by people who are smokers themselves. I would perhaps suggest that the government limit such places to maybe one or two such smoking clubs per town, much in the same way only a limited number of strip joints are allowed per city in the uk, but I see no need for a total ban when it is unneccessary. Working on an oil rig is dangerous and people are paid well to do it, working in a smoking club could be similar.

[Quoi_Tu]

If cigarette smoking was made illegal, people would just start smoking cigars. There are already cigars made for the pure purpose to avoid the heavy cigarette tax (Black and Milds). And don't forget about pipe smoking and hookahs.