No-one trying to decipher Chaos Elemental message this time?

[Troacctid]

Looking into things a bit much?

 

He's just signing off on the bottom of his letter:

 

 

 

Reappropriated = stolen

 

Polychromatic Reptile = chamelean

 

stole chamelean is an anagram of chaos elemental

 

 

 

Maybe Party Pete's chamelean was stolen.

 

Either from Party Pete or from somewhere so that party pete could have it.

 

 

 

Maybe party pete stole it from somewhere and now he is cursed with something? :P

 

Except that isn't how you spell "chameleon." :roll:

 

 

 

Polychromatic reptiles could only be dragons. If they're being reappropriated, that clearly implies the dragonkin are taking them back after being out of the picture for so long.

 

 

 

A white bird represents a dove, which is a symbol for peace. Bandos is the god of war, so obviously Bandos =/= peace right now. My guess is that bit is talking about the sequel to Land of the Goblins, the quest series most closely affiliated with Bandos. The Duke of Lumbridge's letter in the Postbag supports this. And if the Raktuber part is any indication, it should be coming around April.

 

 

 

The bit about red and green and the ramblings of a mad, dead man can only refer to the ghost in the spirit realm at the Chaos Altar. Whether this is meant to attribute some importance to him or if it's just a roundabout way of talking about Guthix and Zamorak is unclear, but I'm leaning towards the latter, since the summer quest series is over now.

 

 

 

"The great, high, uplifted land, Corrupt and Natural, and all things bound within the soul of the slayer" seems to me to be referring to Tirannwn. "Corrupt and Natural" could very plausibly be contrasting the pristine forest of Isafdar with the poison waste. Its not too much of a stretch to think of the elf lands as "great, high, uplifted." The use of "soul" could be referring to the soul altar, or the anima mundi...I suspect that the soul altar has something to do with the Arposandran experiments with the anima mundi. Jagex has said they'll be updating existing quest lines this year, so perhaps this bit points to an upcoming sequel to Path of Glouphrie.

 

 

 

It could also be referring to Morytania. Vampyres are corrupted souls of humans, and Vyrewatch are suspected to be corrupted souls of Icyene. But I think Tirannwn is more likely.

[Kilo]

Betentacled Ganondorf7769,

 

 

 

Ralvash is gone; Muspah, famous, sleeps with the fishies, if fishies frozen could be. That's where the shadows are shadowed, and even the delvers don't dare. Bizarre: one day it's almost time for a shadow to shift - and a shadow to open its unblinking, empty eye.

 

 

 

Gentlemen,

 

I recall with great pleasure those days that you, of course, do not. Nial was there, but he was different then, just like you all. Time changes us all, as do curses. I pray you forgive me for this.

 

B.Y.

 

 

 

 

 

What's in Raktuber this year? A white bird, as the etymology of ornithology goes. That's not where Bandos is, he's in a rage, old chum, old temple, old plots, old power. Old is as old does - I'm old, sometimes, so I should know, but I do not.

 

 

 

This great, high, uplifted land, Corrupt and Natural, and all things bound within the soul of the slayer - whose land is it? The red and the green, but not entirely like or unlike the ramblings of a mad, dead man.

 

 

 

Within a darkening universe,

 

Reappropriated Polychromatic Reptile

 

Uplifted land could mean a floating city, corrupt and natural, meaning it's natural for it to exist but not how it was crerated. Something about the slayer masters is pivitol in this floating city. A mad, dead man reminds me of the man shuffling around the barrows place, but that doesn't relate clearly to other things said :o

[wackoredhead]

Betentacled Ganondorf7769,

 

 

 

Ralvash is gone; Muspah, famous, sleeps with the fishies, if fishies frozen could be. That's where the shadows are shadowed, and even the delvers don't dare. Bizarre: one day it's almost time for a shadow to shift - and a shadow to open its unblinking, empty eye.

 

 

 

I think this means Ralvash may not be daed but, gone. Somewhere or some place. Muspah must be someone famous, of legand a myth maybe? But, he's dead sleep's with the fishies means dead. Somewhere cold though. "...That's where the shadows are shadowed,..." somehting cast's a shadow (usually a metaphor for terror, depression, fear) over the shadow's, wilderness is pretty dark, so are cave's lot's of shadow's in cave's. People delve into ... CAVE'S. A cave, cave delvers dare not enter where something is "shifting" or possibly waking? While Guthix SLEEP'S could he wake up from lucien? Unblinking eye would than refer to guthix, but would you consider him a shadow?

 

 

 

 

 

Gentlemen,

 

I recall with great pleasure those days that you, of course, do not. Nial was there, but he was different then, just like you all. Time changes us all, as do curses. I pray you forgive me for this.

 

B.Y.

 

 

 

Gentlemen = more than one man. Probably a needless statement as C.E. goes on to say he remember's things these Gentlemen obviously do not. AKA past because he uses past tenses. Nial used to be like us. Good? But, obviously, he changed. But something changed him over time, a curse? Now who is cursed? or could be? Lucien? Zamorak? And the B.Y. People say Baba Yaga, I don't think it mean's a straight name. B=2nd letter in the alphabet Y = 2nd last. But if it is a curse, Baba Yaga could probably cook somehting up.

 

 

 

 

 

What's in Raktuber this year? A white bird, as the etymology of ornithology goes. That's not where Bandos is, he's in a rage, old chum, old temple, old plots, old power. Old is as old does - I'm old, sometimes, so I should know, but I do not.

 

 

 

White bird = dove = peace. Bandos = god of goblins = war creature's but Zanik = peaceful goblin = savour of goblins. old chum, who's a chum of a war god? Old temple, we found a guthix temple did we not? Old plot's, becoming/ increasing god power? Old is as old does, it's on a course? C.E. doesn't even know.

 

 

 

This great, high, uplifted land, Corrupt and Natural, and all things bound within the soul of the slayer - whose land is it? The red and the green, but not entirely like or unlike the ramblings of a mad, dead man.

 

 

 

This land = Glienor AKA runescape. It was the gods land so great and high. Uplifted by those on it. Corrupt by god's and follower's yet natural aswell. All thing's live if this "slayer" let's it. But who own's it? red zamorak, green guthix but no mention of saradomin? Dead mad man = chaos alter ghost.

 

 

 

Within a darkening universe,

 

Reappropriated Polychromatic Reptile

 

 

 

 

Metal dragons?

[blakdragon39]

Lol! "Nothing intestine happens." :XD: I found that rather funny. :o OT: I suck at figuring out these things, so I'll let you guys go at it! Just wanted to laugh at the joke. :lol:

[legilgalad2]

Why doesn't anyone see that the red and green reference points to the goblins :wall: They wear and FIGHT over which color is better... Where are you getting the gods and other stuff like that? :?

 

 

 

Was what I was going to say.

[Hippodo]

I'm no good in this sort of stuff, but one thing I'd like to point out is this: the letter was written bij Zelda2144, while the Chaos Elemental wrote a reply to Ganondorf7769. I've never played any Zelda games, but Wikipedia tells me that Ganondorf is the archenemy of Zelda, and that he seeks a relic of the gods, which can bestow great power upon it's holder.

 

 

 

...

 

 

 

Sounds familiar? :P

[C110]

I'm no good in this sort of stuff, but one thing I'd like to point out is this: the letter was written bij Zelda2144, while the Chaos Elemental wrote a reply to Ganondorf7769. I've never played any Zelda games, but Wikipedia tells me that Ganondorf is the archenemy of Zelda, and that he seeks a relic of the gods, which can bestow great power upon it's holder.

 

 

 

...

 

 

 

Sounds familiar? :P

 

 

 

And then you say you're not good?!

 

 

 

Intresting ideas people!

[Erichermit]

That is a very good catch. I didn't realize the chaos elemental changed his name, I guess I wasn't reading it properly.

[firsttsurugi]

Umm, just thought I would point out, the Corrupt and Natural (both apparently capitalized, which is done for the first letter of a name) could be a reference to Zamorak and Guthix. Zamorak is an evil, corrupt god, while Guthix is a god of nature. Plus, there are Zamorakian followers trying to defy the Guthixian Eddicts, which would put Zamorak and Guthix at odds.

[Poppet]

Seems like CE is talking about old which means the past that he figured out from the future that leads to the past so maybe going back in time in a later quest using the crystal key. :?

[Me_Hate_Libs]

Ralvash is gone; Muspah, famous, sleeps with the fishies, if fishies frozen could be. That's where the shadows are shadowed, and even the delvers don't dare. Bizarre: one day it's almost time for a shadow to shift - and a shadow to open its unblinking, empty eye.

 

 

 

Wasn't the Mahjarrat Sliske described one time as a being that delves into the Shadows? And isn't he the being to have supposedly given the Barrows Brothers their powers?

[Troacctid]

Ralvash is gone; Muspah, famous, sleeps with the fishies, if fishies frozen could be. That's where the shadows are shadowed, and even the delvers don't dare. Bizarre: one day it's almost time for a shadow to shift - and a shadow to open its unblinking, empty eye.

 

 

 

Wasn't the Mahjarrat Sliske described one time as a being that delves into the Shadows? And isn't he the being to have supposedly given the Barrows Brothers their powers?

 

Yes.

 

Azzanadra,

 

 

 

It has been a while since I began to ponder this question, however it has only been recently that I have gotten around to bother to ask it.

 

 

 

In my travels across these lands I have run into various Mahjarrat - You, Akthanakos, Enakhra, Hazeel, Lucien and Zemouregal - but I have been wondering, are you the only 6 Mahjarrat left? Or are the others just in hiding, or have they already gone north? If so, would you provide a list of all the other Mahjarrat, so we, The Followers of Zaros, could be more aware of our enemies, and allies?

 

 

 

For the Glory of Zaros!

 

A Follower Unknown.

 

 

 

Loyal soldier,

 

 

 

I am troubled to hear that the traitors still live - I especially bear no love towards the dog Lucien. His betrayal was greater than most, so I encourage you to do all you can to eliminate this abomination. Die for our cause, if you must.

 

 

 

As to the number of my tribe that remain, I must concede ignorance - though I should be surprised if there were only six of us left. We are near-immortal, and only die very occasionally. During the time of my imprisonment no more than a dozen are surely slain, and no doubt a few more are weakened or entrapped as I was. In my time we ruled these lands like gods; times, it seems, have changed.

 

 

 

Before I was imprisoned there were many of us, the most powerful of which you have named - but do not forget Sliske the serpent-tongued, who delves the shadows, and the impostor Zamorak, who calls himself a god.

 

 

 

For strength and our Empty Lord,

 

Azzanadra

 

Good catch there.

[Emmentail]

I thought i'd drag up the Chaos Elemental.

 

 

 

Ralvash is gone; Muspah, famous, sleeps with the fishies, if fishies frozen could be. That's where the shadows are shadowed, and even the delvers don't dare. Bizarre: one day it's almost time for a shadow to shift - and a shadow to open its unblinking, empty eye.

 

 

 

and now..

 

 

 

I have discovered that many of us have entered the death-sleep, and that Mizzarch, Lamistard and Ralvash were the most recent to face the void in the Ritual.

 

 

 

So Ralvash was a Mahjarrat and he is dead, or frozen? And I think that pretty much settles that Zaros (Empty Lord) is returning with his empty eye.

 

I wonder what this ritual is?

[Kimberly]

Betentacled Ganondorf7769,

 

 

 

Ralvash is gone; Muspah, famous, sleeps with the fishies, if fishies frozen could be. That's where the shadows are shadowed, and even the delvers don't dare. Bizarre: one day it's almost time for a shadow to shift - and a shadow to open its unblinking, empty eye.

 

 

 

 

Ralvash was the name of a Mahjarrat recently addressed in the Postbag from the Hedge, in a letter sent from "Azzanadra." Muspah could be another dead Mahjarrat. The Chaos Elemental references the shadows, which could refer to Sliske, a still-living Mahjarrat. Perhaps Sliske will re-emerge and start his own, branched off storyline, and we will have to deal with it. Somewhere in the ice lands?

 

 

 

 

Gentlemen,

 

I recall with great pleasure those days that you, of course, do not. Nial was there, but he was different then, just like you all. Time changes us all, as do curses. I pray you forgive me for this.

 

B.Y.

 

 

 

 

I have no idea what this stands for. Who is Nial? Who is B.Y.? And what are these days that we do not recall "with pleasure"? The only time I could think of is the God Wars, when war was rampant across Gielinor.

 

 

 

EDIT: Bah! Someone already beat me to the PFTH reference. Sorry ;d

[Troacctid]

The reference to Ralvash in Postbag 38 indicates that the other names used are almost certainly also ones we don't know and have never seen before. (It wouldn't be the first time the Chaos Elemental has done this to us.) So with this in mind, there's probably not much point in wondering if Muspah and Nial are supposed to be acronyms or something.

 

 

 

So we don't have enough information to solve the whole clue, at least not yet, but knowing that Ralvash is a mahjarrat gives additional meaning to the first part of the letter. The use of the word "empty," juxtaposed with references to Zarosian mahjarrat, may indicate a return of Zaros...? Or something having to do with Zaros, anyway. Actually, we don't even know that Ralvash is (well, was) a Zarosian, just that he was a mahjarrat.

 

 

 

Azzanadra also makes references to shadows, mirroring the Chaos Elemental again. We still can't be sure what the section is talking about, but I think we're getting a better idea.

 

 

 

The 150th quest is coming up next, and we can infer that it's not just a trivial one because there is no quest coming out this month. I'm betting it's another Grandmaster, and it has something to do with one or more of the things the CE talked about in his most recent letter. If it continues the storyline of WGS, it wouldn't be implausible to see more mahjarrat joining the conflict around Lucien on one side or another. And we still haven't seen where the dragonkin fit in.

[Silver_Corner]

Well focusing on this part of Azzanadra's Letter:

 

 

 

I have discovered that many of us have entered the death-sleep, and that Mizzarch, Lamistard and Ralvash were the most recent to face the void in the Ritual.

 

 

 

He seams to imply that the "death-sleep" is a Ritual. Rituals are activities/tasks over a period of time that are repeated, which means the "death-sleep" isn't actually death, but a long slumber/rebirth of sorts. It must of happened before too if he knows what it is.

 

 

 

Crossing that with the CE's Message:

 

Ralvash is gone; Muspah, famous, sleeps with the fishies, if fishies frozen could be. That's where the shadows are shadowed, and even the delvers don't dare.

 

 

 

Since Azzanadra is telling us that Ralvash is in a "death-sleep" this agrees with the fact "Ralvash is gone".

 

 

 

What still confuses me is the word "Muspah". It is in a semi-colon after.

 

You use a semicolon when you link two independent clauses with no connecting words.

 

That being said, it seams like the word "Muspah" is describing Ralvash? But what is a "Muspah"? Anagram maybe?

 

 

 

Either way, its saying Ralvash is frozen somewhere in ice. Wherever shadows are shadowed.

 

 

 

"Wherever shadows are shadowed" is just another way to say wherever something that wants to hide is hidden. Basically, somewhere not out in the open. The only ice areas that we know of that arnt out in the open are lunar,Far north, and Ice wilderness region.

 

 

 

I believe this last comment is aimed directly at Zaros and Lucien.

 

 

 

Bizarre: one day it's almost time for a shadow to shift - and a shadow to open its unblinking, empty eye.

 

 

 

Strange, one day Lucien is almost about to take over powers of Zamorak, and Zaros to open its unblinking empty eye. Someone has been watching.

 

 

 

Also take note, the CE refers to a Mahjarrat every time it says "a shadow".

[Troacctid]

What still confuses me is the word "Muspah". It is in a semi-colon after.

 

You use a semicolon when you link two independent clauses with no connecting words.

 

That being said, it seams like the word "Muspah" is describing Ralvash? But what is a "Muspah"? Anagram maybe?.

 

It'll be another name of someone we don't know anything about.

[harbringerjm]

To the couple of people asking who Niall is on this page, he's that retired white knight from the sea slug quest chain who was "possessed", for want of a better word, by the slugs and dissapeared.

[jade_slayer6]

Polychromatic dragons = metal dragons?

 

Since chrome is a metal, idk.

[harbringerjm]

Polychromatic dragons = metal dragons?

 

Since chrome is a metal, idk.

 

 

 

Polychromatic means multi-coloured. Polychromatic reptiles is more likely to either refer to normal dragons as a group, due to their many colours, or to more colour changing reptiles, such as chameleons, either Party Pete's or the summoning pet.

 

Interesting thought, perhaps some use for the summoning dragon pets?

[Me_Hate_Libs]

I doubt it means Sliske when it talks about delving into the shadows because I think Sliske having to do with the Barrows brothers is probably still in Morytania and I bet will have something to do with the Myreque storyline.

[ultigamer]

 

 

 

This great, high, uplifted land, Corrupt and Natural, and all things bound within the soul of the slayer - whose land is it? The red and the green, but not entirely like or unlike the ramblings of a mad, dead man.

 

 

 

 

could this be the undead priest in the chaos temple spirit realm?

 

he talks about the godwars and i think he refers to the gods as colours, but i don't know that for sure

 

 

Ralvash is gone; Muspah, famous, sleeps with the fishies, if fishies frozen could be. That's where the shadows are shadowed, and even the delvers don't dare.

 

well maybe it means that the shadows, as in something evil; or something representing shadow(lucien?) is being "shadowed" it means that it's being followed without it knowing it.

 

 

 

I have discovered that many of us have entered the death-sleep, and that Mizzarch, Lamistard and Ralvash were the most recent to face the void in the Ritual.

 

 

 

"the void" is the white realm you encounter during "the end of summer". it is described as the realm between the abbys and other realms and can be expanded by applying enough power to it (as is shown by the spirit beast, he already got the void far into the abbys when we entered it)

 

 

 

"the ritual" is how the Mahjarrat came to Gielinor in the first place before they came under the attention of the Menaphite god Icthlarin. not much is known about it.

 

 

 

"Mizzarch, Lamistard and Ralvash"

 

are they known Mahjarrat? if they aren't, seeing their names i would suggest they are and will be reviving or awakening from their death-sleep sometime soon...

 

 

 

it seems that if you kill a Mahjarrat, it doesn't die; but go in this "sleep" that takes their soul to "the void" there they must preform the ritual to get back to Gielinor. this is why lucien isn't dead after you kill him.

[Grimy_Bunyip]

This great, high, uplifted land, Corrupt and Natural, and all things bound within the soul of the slayer - whose land is it? The red and the green, but not entirely like or unlike the ramblings of a mad, dead man.

 

im surprised nobody mentioned this yet but this line basically means Soul Wars

[Misterknowitall]

This great, high, uplifted land, Corrupt and Natural, and all things bound within the soul of the slayer - whose land is it? The red and the green, but not entirely like or unlike the ramblings of a mad, dead man.

 

im surprised nobody mentioned this yet but this line basically means Soul Wars

 

 

 

Interesting. So this might mean there is a green and a red team.

[Kimberly]

This great, high, uplifted land, Corrupt and Natural, and all things bound within the soul of the slayer - whose land is it? The red and the green, but not entirely like or unlike the ramblings of a mad, dead man.

 

im surprised nobody mentioned this yet but this line basically means Soul Wars

 

 

 

Interesting. So this might mean there is a green and a red team.

 

 

 

I also thought that this could've been a reference to the two ever-quarrelling goblins in the Goblin Village. Shortly before this paragraph, he discusses Bandos and how the white bird (or what most people refer to as Zanik now) quarrel. Is there any chance that this new minigame will be located within that twisted land we saw?

 

 

 

Or am I wildly speculating again ;D