Da_Latios Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Those of you who have done the grandmaster quest will have undoubtedly noticed that the Elite Dark Knights are wielding Saradomin swords. Now, why would Zamorakian forces be equipped with such weaponry? We know that both Saradomin and Zamorak gained godhood through the Stone of Jas. We also know that Saradomin based his symbol off the Dragonkin symbol. Could Saradomin, Zamorak and the Dragonkin somehow be linked closer together than we think? IRC Nick: Hiroki | 99 Agility | Max Quest Points | 138 CombatBandos drops: 20 Hilt | 22 Chestplate | 21 Tassets | 14 Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormveritas Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 1. They killed some Elite White Temple Knights and stole their cool swords. 2. Zamorak was not creative when he designed his big non-godSword. 3. Jagex liked the design and thought you wouldn't notice. 4. There is no sword. It's a magical manifestation created by the Mages down there. Truth is, I have no idea, but it could be any number of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krampell Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Yea, It does look alot like the Saradomin Sword. But there is a little thing that's different. The Saradomin sword has small gaps on the left side of the blade near the handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Latios Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 Yes, very true. Perhaps I have made a mistake in creating this thread? I'll wait for a few more responses before deciding if this thread is useless or not. IRC Nick: Hiroki | 99 Agility | Max Quest Points | 138 CombatBandos drops: 20 Hilt | 22 Chestplate | 21 Tassets | 14 Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadiochao Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Well even if the blade isn't the same, it still has the saradomin symbol hilt thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormveritas Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Clearly the sword at least more closely resembles the sara sword than any other sword in the game. While you might not be dead on, you may be on to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mylez Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 This is pretty strange :) Maybe Zamorakian warriors have merely decided that Saradomin weaponry is superior :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Not the first time... Legacy of Seergaze Quest Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3hitm4g3u Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 The Dark Knights hilt points upwards, whereas the SS is horizontal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randox Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 The hilt is wrong. Its not actualy a symbol of saradomin, it just look ssimilar. Saras hilt looks like -|- (sort of). This one looks like \|/ (and I am only shoeing the top, and the hilts not quite that slanted but its pretty good). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Erm it is odd but: 1) We have NO IDEA how Saradomin became a god, we simply do not know if he was born a god or became one somehow 2) We have NO IDEA where the Saradomin symbol came from, yes it may look a bit like part of the dragonkin symbol with a couple of prongs removed but this proves nothing Your making speculation based on things you've plucked out of thin air, nothing of what you posted has any reference point or definitely fact to it other than the elite black knights do wield sowrds that look an aweful lot like saradomin swords. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Latios Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 Erm it is odd but: 1) We have NO IDEA how Saradomin became a god, we simply do not know if he was born a god or became one somehow 2) We have NO IDEA where the Saradomin symbol came from, yes it may look a bit like part of the dragonkin symbol with a couple of prongs removed but this proves nothing Your making speculation based on things you've plucked out of thin air, nothing of what you posted has any reference point or definitely fact to it other than the elite black knights do wield sowrds that look an aweful lot like saradomin swords. When that short guy in the cutscene touches the Stone of Jas, the Saradomin symbol appears. And yes, it is the four-pointed star. IRC Nick: Hiroki | 99 Agility | Max Quest Points | 138 CombatBandos drops: 20 Hilt | 22 Chestplate | 21 Tassets | 14 Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussietroopa Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 We also know that Saradomin based his symbol off the Dragonkin symbol. Answered your own question Lol. [/bads] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Erm it is odd but: 1) We have NO IDEA how Saradomin became a god, we simply do not know if he was born a god or became one somehow 2) We have NO IDEA where the Saradomin symbol came from, yes it may look a bit like part of the dragonkin symbol with a couple of prongs removed but this proves nothing Your making speculation based on things you've plucked out of thin air, nothing of what you posted has any reference point or definitely fact to it other than the elite black knights do wield sowrds that look an aweful lot like saradomin swords. When that short guy in the cutscene touches the Stone of Jas, the Saradomin symbol appears. And yes, it is the four-pointed star. The only person we have ANY reference to touching the stone of Jas in the barbarian who's name started with V. He found the stone and touched it and from touching it learnt magic, he then returned to his tribe (which became the lunar tribe) and when they returned to the cave the stone had been removed. Therefore the logical assumption is this cutscene showed us the V guy and there is no solid proof for him to be anyone else. Equally tocuhing the stone of jas clearly does not turn people into gods given that the v guy simply learnt magic and we simply had our lvls boosted for a while. The only know becoming a god we have is zamorak whihc was achieved when he was impaled on the armadyl staff at same time as Zaros, this had nothing to do with stone of jas. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Latios Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 Erm it is odd but: 1) We have NO IDEA how Saradomin became a god, we simply do not know if he was born a god or became one somehow 2) We have NO IDEA where the Saradomin symbol came from, yes it may look a bit like part of the dragonkin symbol with a couple of prongs removed but this proves nothing Your making speculation based on things you've plucked out of thin air, nothing of what you posted has any reference point or definitely fact to it other than the elite black knights do wield sowrds that look an aweful lot like saradomin swords. When that short guy in the cutscene touches the Stone of Jas, the Saradomin symbol appears. And yes, it is the four-pointed star. The only person we have ANY reference to touching the stone of Jas in the barbarian who's name started with V. He found the stone and touched it and from touching it learnt magic, he then returned to his tribe (which became the lunar tribe) and when they returned to the cave the stone had been removed. Therefore the logical assumption is this cutscene showed us the V guy and there is no solid proof for him to be anyone else. Equally tocuhing the stone of jas clearly does not turn people into gods given that the v guy simply learnt magic and we simply had our lvls boosted for a while. The only know becoming a god we have is zamorak whihc was achieved when he was impaled on the armadyl staff at same time as Zaros, this had nothing to do with stone of jas. Have you even done the quest? Because if you did, you clearly didn't read the dialogues. IRC Nick: Hiroki | 99 Agility | Max Quest Points | 138 CombatBandos drops: 20 Hilt | 22 Chestplate | 21 Tassets | 14 Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Erm it is odd but: 1) We have NO IDEA how Saradomin became a god, we simply do not know if he was born a god or became one somehow 2) We have NO IDEA where the Saradomin symbol came from, yes it may look a bit like part of the dragonkin symbol with a couple of prongs removed but this proves nothing Your making speculation based on things you've plucked out of thin air, nothing of what you posted has any reference point or definitely fact to it other than the elite black knights do wield sowrds that look an aweful lot like saradomin swords. When that short guy in the cutscene touches the Stone of Jas, the Saradomin symbol appears. And yes, it is the four-pointed star. The only person we have ANY reference to touching the stone of Jas in the barbarian who's name started with V. He found the stone and touched it and from touching it learnt magic, he then returned to his tribe (which became the lunar tribe) and when they returned to the cave the stone had been removed. Therefore the logical assumption is this cutscene showed us the V guy and there is no solid proof for him to be anyone else. Equally tocuhing the stone of jas clearly does not turn people into gods given that the v guy simply learnt magic and we simply had our lvls boosted for a while. The only know becoming a god we have is zamorak whihc was achieved when he was impaled on the armadyl staff at same time as Zaros, this had nothing to do with stone of jas. Have you even done the quest? Because if you did, you clearly didn't read the dialogues. Yes I've done the quest and I read the dialogues and NOTHING in them points the guy in the cutscene being saradomin or the stone having made anybody a god Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfuscator Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Jagex ran out of sword ideas? "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervinator_9 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 We know that both Saradomin and Zamorak gained godhood through the Stone of Jas. We also know that Saradomin based his symbol off the Dragonkin symbol. Granted that Sara may have gotten his godly abilitys through the Stone of Jas, but Zamorak got his powers through the staff he stabed zaros with, the staff of armydal, right? Theres a fine line between not listening and not caring,I like to think I walk this line every day. Pinning blame on Jagex is like trying to put pants on an old man. You both know he needs them, but he'll just keep dancing around, avoiding them at all costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladeangel3 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I havent done the quest yet, but I've got a theory. When fighting, guerrilla soldiers use ANYTHING they can get their hands on. Doesnt matter who its from, so long as it kills, they'll use it. Assuming those Zamorak warriors have been down there for a bit, maybe their swords fell apart/broke/were lost and they found some sort of armory of Saradomin's, which contained the swords. RuneScape junkie since 3/03.RED CHIN TRAINING DEVALUES THE RANGED CAPE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peronix Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 You can actually right click on the guy during the cutscene. It's the V guy, whose full name is Vasador. I doubt that's Saradomin. Otherwise you'd become a God just by touching the stone, too, wouldn't you? Yeah you get your stats insanely boosted and gain a crapload of exp, but you don't become a God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krampell Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Even if the shape are a little off, it still is clear to see that Jagex ran out of ideas when they made the sword. Or Zamorak is too weak to make own swords so they take copies of already existing swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hajuk Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I doubt very much Jagex would give Zamorakian supporters something that even looked like a Saradomin blade by accident, particuarly in a quest that emphasises so much on story, where even the smallest links have deep meaning. Fire cape achieved - 19/12/08 | 99 Cooking achieved - 31/8/09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entangle Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 The hilt is wrong. Its not actualy a symbol of saradomin, it just look ssimilar. Saras hilt looks like -|- (sort of). This one looks like \|/ (and I am only shoeing the top, and the hilts not quite that slanted but its pretty good). That's what I noticed too. You can see how the symbol got based off the original though. Quit RS 2005 | RSN: JohnalderBack as of 5/7/2008!Dragon Drops: x1 Med, x5 Legs, x4 Skirts, x25 Boots, x1 Visage | x7 Abyssal Whips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amundogus2 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 The hilt is wrong. Its not actualy a symbol of saradomin, it just look ssimilar. Saras hilt looks like -|- (sort of). This one looks like \|/ (and I am only shoeing the top, and the hilts not quite that slanted but its pretty good). That's what I noticed too. You can see how the symbol got based off the original though. *Hearts your signature* "There are only two strategies in war. Move forward or change. The victor is the first to realise that when he cannot move forward he must change." ~ Mod Mark H ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psvstef Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 yes i noticed that,i think the warriors plundered saradomins basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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