Underrated Items

[llVIU]

 

It is underrated. When I wear it and use when for exampling runecrafting, I always meet at least one person who says first "What necklace is that?". When I tell him or her they say: "Use dual ring instead. Games necklace ****.".

 

 

 

extra 5 seconds adds up when you're doing 99 million runs or whatever.

 

use glories, first you invest like 2mil gp for ~full inventory of glories, but then you got almost an infinte ammount of fast banking (only needs to be charged each 28*4=112 charges or w/e, using up 1 burthope tele)

 

 

 

you can just sell them back, maybe you lose gp, maybe you profit

[smobo]

Torag Hammers, people treat them like crap when they can actually do decent damage.

 

 

 

I just had my first encounter with Waterfiends (as a Slayer task) and used these. They do third best crush damage in the game (leaving out the hour-degrade and Stealing Creation items) and they're faster than mauls, warhammers or battleaxes. And they're under 100k.

 

 

 

The only problem is its got a requirement of 70, thus it has to compete with whip, and the rest of the barrows equipment. Whip is faster, has a higher str bonus, and is 1 handed. Torag's hammers are about at par stat wise with d scim + rune def (d scim+ rune def has +1 attack, -1 str, plus some defense), but its slower. They also gave Torag a terrible set spec, which is useless in non pvp situations.

 

 

 

 

 

Something else that's surprisingly underrated is whip at waterfiends. A lot of people confuse "weak against crush" with "practically immune to slash". Whip + def is actually pretty effective against waterfiends. Not as good as sara sword, godsword or zammy spear, but its a lot better then t hams, d mace, d spear and a lot of other things i've seen people use there.

[Hajutze]

TBH I can kill them (waterfiends) faster with dragon mace + rune defender then whip + rune defender .. it might be me .. but I hit more often.

[Zaaps1]

 

It is underrated. When I wear it and use when for exampling runecrafting, I always meet at least one person who says first "What necklace is that?". When I tell him or her they say: "Use dual ring instead. Games necklace ****.".

 

 

 

extra 5 seconds adds up when you're doing 99 million runs or whatever.

 

use glories, first you invest like 2mil gp for ~full inventory of glories, but then you got almost an infinte ammount of fast banking (only needs to be charged each 28*4=112 charges or w/e, using up 1 burthope tele)

 

 

 

you can just sell them back, maybe you lose gp, maybe you profit

 

 

 

That's true. If it's 150 hours to 91 rc, using the games necklace will take 300 trips more than glories (and you must pay for each and every games necklace, while glory charges are free). Each trip to ZMI is around 1.6k-2k (I'm not sure of the number, it's been a while). You do the math, it REALLY adds up. Let's say that it comes out to 550k. Well if ZMI is 45k xp per hour, that's 7-8 hours more work.

[Zaaps1]

TBH I can kill them (waterfiends) faster with dragon mace + rune defender then whip + rune defender .. it might be me .. but I hit more often.

 

 

 

The lower your attack level, the more you'll see the difference.

[sadukar123]

Torag Hammers, people treat them like crap when they can actually do decent damage.

 

 

 

I just had my first encounter with Waterfiends (as a Slayer task) and used these. They do third best crush damage in the game (leaving out the hour-degrade and Stealing Creation items) and they're faster than mauls, warhammers or battleaxes. And they're under 100k.

 

Ancient staff+Rune defender>everything except SS+GS+ZS.

[DragonSam]

Torag Hammers, people treat them like crap when they can actually do decent damage.

 

 

 

I just had my first encounter with Waterfiends (as a Slayer task) and used these. They do third best crush damage in the game (leaving out the hour-degrade and Stealing Creation items) and they're faster than mauls, warhammers or battleaxes. And they're under 100k.

 

 

 

The only problem is its got a requirement of 70, thus it has to compete with whip, and the rest of the barrows equipment. Whip is faster, has a higher str bonus, and is 1 handed. Torag's hammers are about at par stat wise with d scim + rune def (d scim+ rune def has +1 attack, -1 str, plus some defense), but its slower. They also gave Torag a terrible set spec, which is useless in non pvp situations.

 

 

 

 

 

Something else that's surprisingly underrated is whip at waterfiends. A lot of people confuse "weak against crush" with "practically immune to slash". Whip + def is actually pretty effective against waterfiends. Not as good as sara sword, godsword or zammy spear, but its a lot better then t hams, d mace, d spear and a lot of other things i've seen people use there.

 

 

 

Well, I didn't presume "practically immune to slash" but I did presume "more susceptible to crush". I didn't try whip because I don't have a rune defender. The only other thing I tried was granite maul - hits hard enough, just seems take forever. When I get a rune defender I'll do a whip/rdefender comparison with the hammers.

 

 

 

I wouldn't advocate using Torag's Hammers as a default weapon or say they're my weapon of choice - that's still the whip for me most of the time. But they're certainly effective against anything vulnerable to crush. As long as your defence (whether armour or prayer or whatever) is good enough not to need the shield slot I think they're a reasonable choice. And I do find them fun for low level stuff when collecting herbs etc. I know, small things amuse small minds, but thumping beasties with blunt instruments does indeed amuse me.

[Hubs]

the rune mace in f2p pvp or bh...i'm not joking people take you as a joke then you start hitting constant mid-low 20s it's a crush weapon so it's useful on plates and relatively accurate i've had many succesful ko's using mace + 2h and the +3? pray bonus is handy

 

 

 

Same with Void + Adamant Crossbow. Went to PVP today; people were literally lining up to kill me.

 

 

 

It satisfying to watch the "lul niec addy cbow noob", then *38 KO*. They don't seem to get that Diamond (e) hits just as hard with an adamant crossbow when compared to a rune one.

[Psycho_Robot]

the rune mace in f2p pvp or bh...i'm not joking people take you as a joke then you start hitting constant mid-low 20s it's a crush weapon so it's useful on plates and relatively accurate i've had many succesful ko's using mace + 2h and the +3? pray bonus is handy

 

 

 

Same with Void + Adamant Crossbow. Went to PVP today; people were literally lining up to kill me.

 

 

 

It satisfying to watch the "lul niec addy cbow noob", then *38 KO*. They don't seem to get that Diamond (e) hits just as hard with an adamant crossbow when compared to a rune one.

 

 

 

Why not use rune though? I mean if you're in void a death will already be a huge loss, and Rune C'bow is better than addy any way you look at it anyways, right?

[MotherBrainII]

I'm far from sure on this, but it's possible that he's using it so that his Void protects over everything else. IIRC, Adamant Crossbows have a lower protect value than any item in the Void set.

 

 

 

OT: The Ancient Staff as a melee weapon.

[Reztral]

I would have to say Ring of Recoil. Can help you in a pinch.

[Maztrfred]

Regen brace

 

 

 

It has better str than a combat brace, and can eliminate the use of food on anything that hits now rarely, but still enough to keep your hp lowish

[DuckyTheSwan]

tuna potatoes. they heal 22hp, which is more than sharks at 20. they're great for my farming, fishing and cooking skills and they sell for quite a lot too. against any monster i'd never touch sharks. tuna potatoes rule.

[sadukar123]

tuna potatoes. they heal 22hp, which is more than sharks at 20. they're great for my farming, fishing and cooking skills and they sell for quite a lot too. against any monster i'd never touch sharks. tuna potatoes rule.

 

Pineapple pizzas are easier to make, heals the same, and are cheaper.

[Assume Nothing]

tuna potatoes. they heal 22hp, which is more than sharks at 20. they're great for my farming, fishing and cooking skills and they sell for quite a lot too. against any monster i'd never touch sharks. tuna potatoes rule.

 

Pineapple pizzas are easier to make, heals the same, and are cheaper.

 

And if you only eat the top halfs, you can outeat literally anything (1v1 claws can be outeaten...).

[ford_landau]

1.Slayer ring

 

2.Enchanted Exalibur

 

 

 

 

 

overated:

 

 

 

1. DFS

 

2. Dragon

[brunokiller]

Dfs protects over like everything too.

 

Except it's actually worth something, and you would want it protected over something else.

 

I would want it to protect over my ags?

[sadukar123]

Dfs protects over like everything too.

 

Except it's actually worth something, and you would want it protected over something else.

 

I would want it to protect over my ags?

 

You would have DFS with AGS why?

[Assume Nothing]

The Rune Hatchet, people seem to think that because the dragon hatchet is made of dragonmetal, it should cut logs 2-3 times faster than the Rune counterpart, *sigh*.

[DragonSam]

Torag Hammers, people treat them like crap when they can actually do decent damage.

 

 

 

I just had a go at Aberrant Spectres. Used abyssal whip most of the time, but tried Torag's Hammers for a lark and to compare. I only did five for each, but Torag's averaged 12 hits to kill, and the whip averaged 13.8. So the damage might balance up the difference in speed.

[llVIU]

The Rune Hatchet, people seem to think that because the dragon hatchet is made of dragonmetal, it should cut logs 2-3 times faster than the Rune counterpart, *sigh*.

 

 

 

People that have ~1mil gp spare can just buy dragon hatchet, wc and get more logs than with rune hatchet, and when they're done they can just sell the dragon hatchet, so why would you bother keep the 1mil gp lie in bank and go to waste when you can cut (imo) like 5% more or whatever the procent is.

 

 

 

It would seem pretty sensless to me, and still - a lot of people use rune hatchet, so it's not under rated at all

 

 

 

and neither are those tuna/corn potatoes, I've seen a lot of people use them, pk/jad/gwd... if the price was a lot lower then I'd say it was underrated. if anything, it's overrated and overpriced, I'd pick saradomin brew+restore over the tuna potatoes, or just go with regular sharks or the extremly economic tunas/cods/etc.

 

 

 

I'm not sure, but excalipoor 2 might be underrated... it's as good as a super def pot + 1 shark each spec (actually it depends on def/hp levels...)

[Smavey]

ancient mace rocks - my fav special

[LatinII]

I think the Bones to Peaches spell is underrated.

[Sir_Kurity]

The Rune Hatchet, people seem to think that because the dragon hatchet is made of dragonmetal, it should cut logs 2-3 times faster than the Rune counterpart, *sigh*.

 

 

 

Yea, people are always like.

 

 

 

ITS TEH CHEAPER AND ITZ LIKE THE SAME.

 

 

 

Sure, if the axe deteriorated when you cut trees, but they don't you can just sell it back later, so the fact is, your always better off with a dragon hatchet if you can afford it unless the price is currently falling.

[Numberkills]

The Combat Bracelet and Skills Necklace are extremely underrated... but for skilling and pre-combat.

 

 

 

+ They both only cost ~13k each!

 

Bracelet:

 

+ Monastery Teleport for easy prayer restore before combat.

 

+ Warriors' Guild for easy Glory recharging

 

+ Ranging Guild for easy access to the Ardougne Patch / getting back boots of lightness ( :wall: )

 

+ Champions' Guild for easy access to the bush patch

 

 

 

Necklace:

 

+ Fishing Guild east access to the Ardougne Patch / Easy for clue scrolls

 

+ Crafting Guild for easy access to the bush patch in Rimmington

 

+ Mining Guild... Ok, easy access to the mining guild?

 

+ Cooking Guild easy access to the grand exchange on ancients or lunar magic

 

 

 

Cons

 

- Legends' Quest required to recharge them

 

 

 

These two items single-handedly made farming bush patches possible for me.