Runescape God Mythology

[Cheefoo]

about bandos' power....

 

 

 

in the last quest(the chosen commander) it seems that bandos isn't quite as powerfull as you'd think a god would be. even some of his creations are more powerfull than his avatar; despite the fact that he used almost all of his (remaining?) power to create the pendant. in my opinion this can be explained in 2 ways..

 

 

 

1. he is a worship god, meanin that is powers depend on how many "things" worship him, with ork's and ourg's being all but extinct, and most goblins being too stupid to more then the occasional shout of "praise the big high war god" his power would depend solely on the ogre's. and maybe trolls(although it seems logical; i haven't seen any evidence in game or in the kb that trolls folow him).

 

2. the edicts of guthix. to interfere on the level he did in the quest he must have "broken" through them. that could possibly drain his power, although i don't know if the goblin homeworld is as much affected by it as gielinor itself.

 

 

 

3. a combination of the two.

 

 

 

I think he created a pendant imbued with his power and will, and left it in his throne room for the Chosen Commander. It obviously didn't contain all his power, because if it did, Bandos would be gone with the pendant. It only allowed him to control the wearer, not exactly directly interfering with Gielinor, so I supposed he bypassed the Edicts of Guthix.

 

 

 

One way or another, I'm sure that the Bandos Avatar was not Bandos' true strength. It could have been weakened due to the fact that the wearer of the pendant was so weak and insignificant. Bandos isn't gone, but he's almost powerless, like Saradomin an Zamorak are in the current day. Until, of course, the day the Edicts unravel...

[3hitm4g3u]

And Zaros is Cthulu.

 

 

 

:lol:

[sphinxor86]

See, this is the reason why we need a definitive Pantheon for our runescape gods :

 

 

 

There's so much floating around that is inaccurate!

 

 

 

A "God Catalogue" please Big High Tipit Gods :pray:

 

 

 

Does anyone know what these gods actually look like?

[Rien]

I quote from http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarti ... cle_id=475 (Although you could probably find it anywhere on RuneScape, and I'm sure the word law was used as well somewhere on the site[just can't be bothered to check]):

 

"Saradomin, lord of order, and deity of wisdom"

 

 

 

 

 

Order in the thesaurus:

 

Main Entry: order

 

Part of Speech: noun

 

Definition: lawfulness

 

Synonyms: calm, control, decorousness, decorum, discipline, goodness, integrity, law, law and order, niceness, orderliness, peace, peacefulness, probity, properness, propriety, quiet, rectitude, rightness, seemliness, suitability, tranquility, uprightness

 

Antonyms: lawlessness, liberty, license

 

 

 

 

 

Add on to that Saradomin's island has the freaking Law Altar.

 

 

 

Sardomin is also the opposite of Zamorak. Zamorak is the god of chaos and not actually the god of evil, there for Saradomin isn't the god of good(Juna will back me up on this).

'Just pointing out here that the KB and God Letters are rife with misinformation. It would probably be best not to quote them as sources; the most reliable information is obtained through questing and exploration.

 

Anyway, Saradomin, I'm sure, would like to be portrayed as being benevolent and a pillar of righteousness, but some of his past actions conflict with this image. Armadyl more closely conforms to the idea of a "God of Law," as he is said to be a strict--but notably fair--upholder of justice.

 

 

 

 

 

See, this is the reason why we need a definitive Pantheon for our runescape gods :

 

 

 

There's so much floating around that is inaccurate!

 

 

 

A "God Catalogue" please Big High Tipit Gods :pray:

 

 

 

Does anyone know what these gods actually look like?

I would love to write a comprehensive guide to RuneScape's Deities, however, as is the case with many enthusiasts, I've long since completed all the quests. Because of this, I am unable to collect screenshots or create videos of the relevant information. :-#

 

Should anyone decide to make an attempt, I'd be glad to lend what expertise I have.

 

 

 

As for what the gods look like, it's difficult to give a definitive answer--many, if not all, of the gods can change their appearence at will, although I believe they remain in their human forms for the most part.

[Naive]

If you ever get the mime random rotate your camera to face the audience, there are three men meant to represent Guthix, Saradomin, and Zamorak. These are the only in-game models I think. Oh wait, there's Guthix in Meeting History as well. :)

 

 

 

Guthix ftw btw \

[BlackKingX]

I quote from http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarti ... cle_id=475 (Although you could probably find it anywhere on RuneScape, and I'm sure the word law was used as well somewhere on the site[just can't be bothered to check]):

 

"Saradomin, lord of order, and deity of wisdom"

 

 

 

 

 

Order in the thesaurus:

 

Main Entry: order

 

Part of Speech: noun

 

Definition: lawfulness

 

Synonyms: calm, control, decorousness, decorum, discipline, goodness, integrity, law, law and order, niceness, orderliness, peace, peacefulness, probity, properness, propriety, quiet, rectitude, rightness, seemliness, suitability, tranquility, uprightness

 

Antonyms: lawlessness, liberty, license

 

 

 

 

 

Add on to that Saradomin's island has the freaking Law Altar.

 

 

 

Sardomin is also the opposite of Zamorak. Zamorak is the god of chaos and not actually the god of evil, there for Saradomin isn't the god of good(Juna will back me up on this).

'Just pointing out here that the KB and God Letters are rife with misinformation. It would probably be best not to quote them as sources; the most reliable information is obtained through questing and exploration.

 

Anyway, Saradomin, I'm sure, would like to be portrayed as being benevolent and a pillar of righteousness, but some of his past actions conflict with this image. Armadyl more closely conforms to the idea of a "God of Law," as he is said to be a strict--but notably fair--upholder of justice.

 

 

 

There can be different ideals of law, not everyone thinks the same things are lawful or unlawful. Just think of Saradomin as the Judge Dredd of the RuneScape gods.

 

 

 

I have done every quest in RuneScape so I know lots about the RuneScape gods. I was just pointing out something solid that Saradomin himself said to counter what someone said about what I said earlier.

 

 

 

Some people seem to be under the impression that two gods can't have similar ideals. Isn't it possible that both Saradomin and Armadyl have a strong sense of law? Saradomin was Armadyl's apprentice afterall.. I was under the impression that this thread was what they represent most.

[Rien]

Just think of Saradomin as the Judge Dredd of the RuneScape gods.

I would have to agree with this. :lol:

 

 

 

And yes, the gods can share similar values, but I can't help but think that Saradomin champions a significantly warped sense of "Law" as compared to Armadyl. While Armadyl upholds his "Law" for the sake of justice and equity, Saradomin seems to use his merely as a form of strict social control. Armadyl is impartial in his judgements; Saradomin is more fanatical in that he holds his followers to ridiculously high standards, but doesn't appear to have any qualms when he violates his own commandments.

 

 

 

Saradomin views the world in terms of black and white (or, at least, would like for his followers to do so)--an erroneous sentiment I imagine Armadyl does not share.

 

[hide=Don't take offense at this, but...]Saradomin is definitely RuneScape's portrayal of the Judeo-Christian God. This is probably the simplest way in which I can describe what I mean, even if it is a bit blunt.[/hide]

[Ned]

I read somewhere that Tip.it was making a Gods Guide, this will probably be really helpful :)

 

I the mythology in RS.

[magzar]

Just think of Saradomin as the Judge Dredd of the RuneScape gods.

I would have to agree with this. :lol:

 

 

 

And yes, the gods can share similar values, but I can't help but think that Saradomin champions a significantly warped sense of "Law" as compared to Armadyl. While Armadyl upholds his "Law" for the sake of justice and equity, Saradomin seems to use his merely as a form of strict social control. Armadyl is impartial in his judgements; Saradomin is more fanatical in that he holds his followers to ridiculously high standards, but doesn't appear to have any qualms when he violates his own commandments.

 

 

 

Saradomin views the world in terms of black and white (or, at least, would like for his followers to do so)--an erroneous sentiment I imagine Armadyl does not share.

 

[hide=Don't take offense at this, but...]Saradomin is definitely RuneScape's portrayal of the Judeo-Christian God. This is probably the simplest way in which I can describe what I mean, even if it is a bit blunt.[/hide]

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with you. Saradomin is definitely a match to the Judeo-Christian God. His laws are puritanical and moralistic, whereas Armadyl would be more like the scales of justice. I mean, when you think about it, even in the bible "God" kills indiscriminately, afflicts innocent people with plague, and orders his followers to kill those who oppose him. Yet after all this, he demands worship as a just and righteous God? Pathetic. Maybe You can see why I'm not religious. Anyway, that's neither here nor there. It comes down to this, Saradomin's laws are moralistic and self serving, whereas Armadyl's are totally unbiased.

[Bunnys186]

No one seems to know about the Desert Gods? Well, I guess I'll say a bit.

 

 

 

Tumeken- God of the Sun. Some believe he is supposed to represent Ra, the egyptian god of the same thing. He is probably the highest god in the Desert Parthenon. Husband of Elidnis, father of Icthlarin and Amascut. His "items" are supposedly the waterskin and the Pharoh's Sceptre. His followers are the Menaphites.

 

 

 

Elidnis- Believed to be the wife of Tumeken. Goddess of growth and fertility. The River Elid is named after her. Supposedly a Saradominist named Nardarine escaped into the desert and prayed for Saradomin. Elidnis answered her prayers and grant her water by creating the River Elid. She created a town near the river and called it Nardah, where her followers live. Mother of Icthlarin and Amascut. Her items are her robes, found in Nardah. Her followers are the Elid water spirits and the town of Nardah.

 

 

 

Icthlarin- jackal- headed demigod of the dead and proper burial; believed to be the son of Tumeken and Elidnis. The people of Sophanem worship him. "Son" of Tumeken and Elidnis.

 

 

 

Amascut (Devourer)- Goddess of destruction. Goes by two other names: The Devourer and the Wanderer. Despises cats. Menaphite thugs and their leader worship her. "Daughter" of Tumeken and Elidnis.

 

 

 

Akthankos- Camel headed god of the Ugthanki. Affiliated with Zaros and knows how to cast the Ancient Magicks. Was trapped in Enkhra's Temple after Enkhra told him she wanted to join Zaros. Freed by an adventurer during Enkhra's Lament. The Camulet and the Camel Mask are his items.

 

 

 

Scabaras- a lesser diety that came from the 4th dream of Tumeken. Has a cult called the Sect of Scabaras. Supposedly gained powers from Tumeken to warn the humans what would happen if they became too succluded.

 

 

 

Het- lesser diety from the first dream of Tumeken. Given powers for being the strongest of men.

 

 

 

Apmeken- lesser diety from the second dream of Tumeken. Takes the form of an ape. Given powers for being the most sociable of creatures.

 

 

 

Crondis- lesser diety from the third dream of Tumeken. Given powers for being the most resourceful of all in the desert.

 

 

 

Those are the gods of the desert that I know of. Also, heres some information of a few other gods.

 

 

 

Seren- goddess of the elves and crystal. Gave the elves crystal seeds to create Prifddinas. She is possibly a manifestation of the Animi Mundi. Items of hers are the crystal seed, Crystal Bow, Crystal Shield and The Crystal Book of Seren.

 

 

 

I see no mention of the Fremmnik gods, so I might as well give info on them...

 

 

 

Kendal- God of Trollheim. A nature spirit worshipped by the Mountain Camp in Relleka. Supposedly bear-like. There has been an impersonater that has been killing people. A symbolic item of his is the Bear Head.

 

 

 

Fossegrimen- Goddess of Trollheim. A water spirit worshipped by Fremmniks and people in the Mountain Camp. Appears ghostly. A symbolic item of hers is the Enchanted Lyre.

 

 

 

Final note- For some odd reason, I consider Guthix to be the brother of Seren and Marimbo. I consider these three to be the highest gods of Runescape, and Saradomin and Zamorak as minor, if not fake gods. I do not know why I think this, but it sorta makes sense. Guthix brought people to Runescape and created the gnomes. Seren created the elves. Marimbo created the monkeys (and possibly the vampires?). The three seem similar as they all have mysterious powers. Guthix's people, the gnomes, seem to have an odd type of magic unknown to humans. Seren can create cities out of crystal and make a bow out of crystal. Marimbo can shapeshift, though mostly takes form of a monkey. They seem to have things in common, but perhaps this is just my mind linking them.

 

 

 

Your elven acquiantance, Agent Bunnys186.

[aspeeder]

^ The Egyption Sun God's name is Ra

 

I wonder who is the god of penguins ...

 

Well, if we are assuming that the penguins are like communists, then they would have no god or religion for that matter.

 

"Religion is the opiate of the masses" -Karl Marx <---Overstated btw :lol:

[Dire_Wolf]

Hi guys,

 

 

 

I was just wondering if there is any compendium on God mythology of Runescape on Tipit? If there isn't someone should make one :)

 

 

 

Saradomin

 

Guthix

 

Zamorak

 

Iban

 

Bandos

 

etc

 

 

 

If there is, can someone direct me to it please :)

 

 

 

Thanks :

 

Simple terms:

 

 

 

Saradomin - God of arrogance

 

Guthix - The god of balance, possibly Zaros' father.

 

Zamorak - The now god of badness, born a Mahjraart (sp?)

 

Iban - A follower of Zamorak, now a God (upon completion of While Guthix Sleeps)

 

Bandos - The God of Goblins and Ogres

 

Armadyl - The God of the skies/wings.

 

 

 

Any others you want to know?

[Outsanity]

Hi guys,

 

 

 

I was just wondering if there is any compendium on God mythology of Runescape on Tipit? If there isn't someone should make one :)

 

 

 

Saradomin

 

Guthix

 

Zamorak

 

Iban

 

Bandos

 

etc

 

 

 

If there is, can someone direct me to it please :)

 

 

 

Thanks :

 

Simple terms:

 

 

 

Saradomin - God of goodness.

 

Guthix - The god of balance, possibly Zaros' father.

 

Zamorak - The now god of badness, born a Mahjraart (sp?)

 

Iban - A follower of Zamorak, now a God (upon completion of While Guthix Sleeps)

 

Bandos - The God of Goblins and Ogres

 

Armadyl - The God of the skies/wings.

 

 

 

Any others you want to know?

 

 

 

Saradomin is the god of law, not goodness. lol....and likewise zamorak is the god of chaos, not badness. (And wow...badness? Really? You couldn't say Evil?)

[Da_Latios]

Hi guys,

 

 

 

I was just wondering if there is any compendium on God mythology of Runescape on Tipit? If there isn't someone should make one :)

 

 

 

Saradomin

 

Guthix

 

Zamorak

 

Iban

 

Bandos

 

etc

 

 

 

If there is, can someone direct me to it please :)

 

 

 

Thanks :

 

Simple terms:

 

 

 

Saradomin - God of goodness.

 

Guthix - The god of balance, possibly Zaros' father.

 

Zamorak - The now god of badness, born a Mahjraart (sp?)

 

Iban - A follower of Zamorak, now a God (upon completion of While Guthix Sleeps)

 

Bandos - The God of Goblins and Ogres

 

Armadyl - The God of the skies/wings.

 

 

 

Any others you want to know?

 

Saradomin - god of purity

 

Guthix - god of balance

 

Zamorak - current god of chaos

 

Iban (wat? Iban is dead)

 

Lucien - presumed god of chaos

 

Bandos - god of war and destruction

 

Armadyl - god of law and order

 

 

 

Saradomin is the god of law, not goodness.

Actually, it's Armadyl.

[Drakolord7]

 

Final note- For some odd reason, I consider Guthix to be the brother of Seren and Marimbo. I consider these three to be the highest gods of Runescape, and Saradomin and Zamorak as minor, if not fake gods. I do not know why I think this, but it sorta makes sense. Guthix brought people to Runescape and created the gnomes. Seren created the elves. Marimbo created the monkeys (and possibly the vampires?). The three seem similar as they all have mysterious powers. Guthix's people, the gnomes, seem to have an odd type of magic unknown to humans. Seren can create cities out of crystal and make a bow out of crystal. Marimbo can shapeshift, though mostly takes form of a monkey. They seem to have things in common, but perhaps this is just my mind linking them.

 

 

 

Your elven acquiantance, Agent Bunnys186.

 

 

 

Well, Guthix created Seren. Also, no idea where you got the idea Marimbo created Vampires, as they follow Zamorak and previously followed Zaros. Also, Akthankos is a Mahjarrat, not a god, but otherwise good work on the list of the Desert gods, though I'm not sure why everyone downgrade Itchlarin to a demigod.

 

 

 

Anyways

 

 

 

[hide=Gods]Saradomin- God of metaphorical 'Goodness' and 'Law'

 

Zamorak- God of Chaos

 

Guthix- God of Balance

 

Zaros- the Empty Lord

 

Seren- Animi Mundi

 

Bandos- God of War/Battle

 

Brassica Prime- God of Cabbage

 

Armadyl-[/hide]

[Unknown_Warrior]

Hi guys,

 

 

 

I was just wondering if there is any compendium on God mythology of Runescape on Tipit? If there isn't someone should make one :)

 

 

 

Saradomin

 

Guthix

 

Zamorak

 

Iban

 

Bandos

 

etc

 

 

 

If there is, can someone direct me to it please :)

 

 

 

Thanks :

 

Simple terms:

 

 

 

Saradomin - God of goodness.

 

Guthix - The god of balance, possibly Zaros' father.

 

Zamorak - The now god of badness, born a Mahjraart (sp?)

 

Iban - A follower of Zamorak, now a God (upon completion of While Guthix Sleeps)

 

Bandos - The God of Goblins and Ogres

 

Armadyl - The God of the skies/wings.

 

 

 

Any others you want to know?

 

 

 

Wow you're so far off it's sad.

 

Saradomin would be a equivalent to the Christian God. Moralistic and obsessive over purity, even to the extent that the quest to be pure denies his followers freedom. However, his true motives lie in being the "one true god" and being worshiped by all. He has no qualms about venturing into gray areas when it comes to "fighting evil."

 

Guthix is indeed the God of balance. There is no information whatsoever to support Guthix being the father of anyone. Guthix, Saradomin, and Zamorak refer to each other as brothers, but it's a title rather than a sign of relation. It equates to something like fraternity brothers.

 

Zamorak is a god of chaos, not "badness." He was a mahjarrat general in Zaros's army. He, along with followers, betrayed Zaros and became a God himself.(you can find the full story in the ghostly robes miniquest.)

 

Iban is a mage, supposedly the son of Lucien. He's not a god in any way.

 

Lucien is a former Mahjarrat general, and the father of Iban. He seems to be attempting to follow in the footsteps of Zamorak and ascend to godhood. He posesses both the staff of Armadyl and the Stone of Jas.

 

Bandos is the god of war. He commands the warlike races such as goblins, ogres, and trolls, by taking advantage of their stupidity and their high regard for physical strength.

 

Armadyl is the god of law. He tends to side with Saradomin against lawbreakers such as Bandos and Zamorak. It is likely he would be a powerful force if ever reunited with his staff, which seems to have the power to make or break other gods. However, without it he would seem to be severely weakened.

 

Zaros is still a bit of a mystery. Although it is likely he shares many of the same traits as Zamorak, He would have been much more powerful, and his true goals would like in the conquering and destruction of the entire world. He would match up well with baal from the Diablo II expansion.

 

There is also the Elven goddess Seren, and the Desert pantheon, and Jas, little is known about these at this point.

 

 

 

Oops I listed Lucien as the father of Iban, I meant Zamorak. Got my facts a bit twisted.

 

 

 

Close, but not entirely.

 

 

 

Bandos - God of war. He loves to fight, and that his main drive. He forced certain races to fight for him. Goblins, for example, were dragged out of their realm Yu'biusk to fight for him. Guthix saw no qualm in this. These races, being forced to do nothing but fight, lost their intelligence over the several thousand years under Bandos' command.

 

 

 

Armadyl - The god of law and justice. This is all we know of him. His followers, the aviantese, would welcome and pair up others to uphold this justice. It could be said the aviantese were a kind race. As these got extinct, Armadyl wept and left.

 

 

 

Seren - Not made by Guthix. Likely an entity that was around prior to or at the same Guthix came in. She made the crystals.

 

 

 

Marimbo - Formerly a pet of Guthix that got embedded by power of his former master. He gave intelligence to certain monkeys.

 

 

 

Jas is an elder god. Existing prior to even Guthix.

[primadog]

What do you guys think of categorizing the gods using the D&D alignments. We know already that RS has its mythological foundations with D&D, so it seems like a good system for differentiating between a Lawful Good god like Saradomin with Armadyl and Seren.

 

 

 

Just a quick matching comes up with:

 

Lawful Good - Saradomin

 

Neutral Good - Armadyl

 

Chaotic Good - Seren

 

 

 

Lawful Neutral - Bob

 

True Neutral - Guthix

 

Chaotic Neutral - Bando

 

 

 

Lawful Evil - Dragonkins

 

Neutral Evil - Zaro

 

Chaotic Evil - Zamorak

[thesearcher]

Try this:

 

 

 

The Non-Desert Pantheon- living

 

 

 

Saradomin- God of Order. Potential links to Law- the Law Runecrafting altar is on Entrana. Commands the Iceyene race.

 

 

 

Guthix- God of Balance. First God to be worshipped in Northern RuneScape, according to Meeting History. Created/enslaved guardians to serve him. Ended(?) the Godwars. A calm god- his statue in the Mage Arena looks like representations of the Buddha during his fast.

 

 

 

Zamorak- God of Chaos. Potentially took this title from his former patron, Zaros. Was once a Mahjaraat, but shed this title when he usurped Zaros. Commonly thought to be, and closest associated with, evil.

 

 

 

Marimbo- God of (Monkies?)- worshipped on Ape Attoll. Very little known about him, though I'd like to see something in the future.

 

 

 

The Non-Desert Pantheon- fled

 

 

 

Armadyl- God of Flight. (Father?) to the Aviantese. Left RuneScape after he believed that they were destroyed.

 

 

 

Bandos- God of Strength. Patron of all kinds of beasts that worship him for his aggression. Believed to have fled, certainly no evidence for his continued existence. Despite this, the Ogres still worship him- think the Pool of Bandos.

 

 

 

The Non-Desert Pantheon- location uncertain

 

 

 

Seren- Elflish Goddess of Crystal. Likely to play a large part in the earth, as with the ancient Gaia.

 

 

 

The Mahjaraat

 

 

 

The Order of Maharajaat have uncertain origins. They are potentially human, but are more likely to be demigods.

 

 

 

Zaros (deceased)- Former ruler of Mahjaraat.

 

 

 

Azzandra- entombed in the desert. One of the many Desert Mahjaraat.

 

 

 

Bob the cat?- certainly not a God, according to the KB.

 

 

 

Enakhra- weak enough to be entombed in the Desert. Certainly a Maharajaat.

 

 

 

The Strange Old Man at The Barrows- no evidence, but a friend of mine reports that he reacts oddly to Jennica's Ring.

 

 

 

Hazeel- nothing amazingly clear, but he is nearly ressurected/is resurrected in the Fifth Age. Implies that he fell.

 

 

 

General Khazard- I've seen too much of him. Still lives, if with a face that is simply a skull.

 

 

 

Akthanakos- sworn enemy of Enakhra. Lives in the Desert.

 

 

 

Zemouregal- ally of Zamorak. Fought firstly by Arrav, then later on in his second attack on the city of Varrock.

 

 

 

Lucien- asipres to godhood. Chief antagonist responsible for the deaths of many powerful fighters: the greatest Sayer Master, Duradel; the strongest man in RuneScape, Sloane; the Slayer master Turael; the Gnome Prophet Hazelmere; the brutal guardian of the Warriors' Guild, Ghommal and Cyrisus, the Lunar Isle's strongest fighter and most wel-rounded character.

 

 

 

Various others are mentioned by Azzandra at the end of Desert Treasure.

 

 

 

The Desert Pantheon

 

 

 

Amascut- decietful. Uses people in her war on Sophanem.

 

 

 

Elidinis- Guardian of Nardah. A River Goddess. Very little known about her.

 

 

 

Ichthalrin- God of the Dead.

 

 

 

Scabaras- God of the Scarabs. Creator of the Kaphites.

 

 

 

Tukenem: God fo the Desert. A father-figure.

 

 

 

The Dragonkin

 

 

 

Thought to create Dragon Weapons, they come from Freneskrae, the same place as the Mahajaraat.

[John Halo Chief]

argh! too...much...confusingness!

 

why couldn't i stay naive as a F2P and think that there was only 3 gods?!?!

 

but nooo...

 

i have to become a member... -.-

[thesearcher]

argh! too...much...confusingness!

 

why couldn't i stay naive as a F2P and think that there was only 3 gods?!?!

 

but nooo...

 

i have to become a member... -.-

 

 

 

Scrolling backwards, my eyes are hurting. :roll:

[yuriqiu]

Ppl always forget about Marimbo :-#

 

I wonder who is the god of penguins ...

 

Brassica Prime? God of cabbages is ftw. Also to the 3 hit guy.... do more quests please. Magzar basically corrected everything except Lucien being the father of Iban

[yuriqiu]

 

Zaros (deceased)- Former ruler of Mahjaraat.

 

 

 

Bob the cat?- certainly not a God, according to the KB.

 

 

 

The Strange Old Man at The Barrows- no evidence, but a friend of mine reports that he reacts oddly to Jennica's Ring.

 

 

 

General Khazard- I've seen too much of him. Still lives, if with a face that is simply a skull.

 

Just want to correct a few things

 

 

 

Zaros is not a ruler of the Mahjaraat. He had more of a mutural agreement with them.

 

 

 

Bob the cat was speculated to be Zaros at one point. Disproved with Tales of Two cats.

 

 

 

Strange old man at barrows is not a Mahjaraat. Jennica's ring and the Mahjaraat has no relations.

 

 

 

General Khazard is a Mahjaraat. He is dead after the Fight ring or something quest (one where you fight his hellhound) and can later be seen in the ghostly sword mini quest as a ghost. Mahjaraat can shape shift to look like the skull face. They also have a human and animal form (camel Mahjaraat, sorry I don't remember names well)

 

 

 

Lastly, Dragonkins are not in any way shape or form a god. They are just the creators of dragons (presumably with the assistance of the stone of jas).

[magzar]

 

Strange old man at barrows is not a Mahjaraat. Jennica's ring and the Mahjaraat has no relations.

 

 

 

 

There is actually substantiating evidence to suppore the strange old man being a mahjarrat. If you read the story of the brothers in the Lores section, it talks about the starnger having lidless eyes, and using magic that sounds a lot like ancients. Couple that in with the fact that it's east of the salve, an area which zaros likely had a good deal of power in, and it's not unlikely that the strange old man is a mahjarrat waiting for the time to wake the brothers to serve their new master(which I suspect to be Zaros.)

 

 

 

Here's my theory:

 

Zaros foresaw the god wars and the banishment of the gods from the mortal plane. He also foresaw his betrayal. So, in order to prevent himself from being banished, or falling to the combined might of the other gods, he allowed Zamorak to defeat him. Unknown to Zamorak however, he didn't kill Zaros, merely drained him allowing him to descend from godhood until the time was right for him to rise again. Now comes the fun part. He Told his loyal Mahjarrat of his intent, and had them gather the forces he would need for his rise.

 

So, there's the brothers, cursed by a mysterious mahjarrat. Then there's Arrav under the control of (not sure correct me if i'm wrong) Zemouregal. Lucien has raised an undead army and acquired both the stone of Jas and the staff of armadyl. So what if it's not for him to ascend into some psuedo godhood, what if he intends to use the staff as a conduit to direct the power of the stone into Zaros, thereby returning his fallen master to life and godhood. And to make things even better, Guthix is asleep, and all the other gods are unable to enter the mortal plane to fight him.

 

Sneaky sneaky.

 

 

 

Probably not true, but it would be one hell of a storyline.

[yuriqiu]

The lidless eyes stranger could quite possibly be Zem-(fill in the blanks). At least thats how I interpreted it. The strange old man just does not seem to fit the profile. In my opinion he isn't a Mahjaraat. He is simply just as Reldo said: "lived in Morytania too long." If in fact he is a Mahjaraat, that brings up the question of the strange man outside of KQ's lair. I believe its just a piece of Jagex pun (Wise old man, Strange old man, Mysterious old man, Young old man... okay I made the last one up :P).

 

 

 

PS. love the storyline

[sphinxor86]

I had no idea I was gonna open such a can of worms!!

 

 

 

This is the reason we need a comprehensive "bible" for RS.