Teeg Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Not that it really matters but i have tried using the rune mace in f2p and it doesnt do any better then a rune scim. Even though it has more cruch attack. Sorry everyone, totally off topic, but am I the only one who cringed when he read this. Cruch Attack... OUCH Teeg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheValeyard Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 They've both been out for years. If the dragon mace really was better people would have discovered it before now and be using it for pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_bert Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Of course it's better, didn't you get the memo? 'Tis I, 'tis Vindice, 'tis I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 D Mace is extremely useful for people wearing Melee armor, especially ones with a crush weakness. It is also quite good for a final blow since it hits hard. It, however, has less accuracy, so you might hit a lower number than you do a higher number (highest I've seen on YouTube is 52). DDS, on the other hand, hits 2 times per spec, so it is useful for a beginning attack. To counteract the DDS's benefit, it is weak and not so accurate, so it is only useful against Ranged and Magic armor. It can also poison, which is another benefit, although the chances of it is low. (Highest I've seen on YouTube is 38-38.) So, overall, both weapons are pretty good in their own perspective, but the DDS is slightly more useful thanks to poison. BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegis Titan Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 What about dragon long? It's pretty accurate and can deal massive damage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_am_Geed Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 D mace could work with a combo but its code is rather innacurate so its not all that great to use in general, althoygh seeing 40s and 50s are nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDaStudd Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I'd much rather either DDS or g maul simply due to the speed of the attacks. [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everyonedies Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Not that it really matters but i have tried using the rune mace in f2p and it doesnt do any better then a rune scim. Even though it has more cruch attack. Sorry everyone, totally off topic, but am I the only one who cringed when he read this. Cruch Attack... OUCH Teeg Opps i ment crush lol... http://www.clanhavok.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazhor Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I tried d mace on bh about half a hour ago and 2 of the hits were over 20. Opponent was using dds and hit with 1 of his specials haha So d mace on their rune plate is awesome tbh :thumbsup: Visit my blog! Click the madness for more madness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilson1111 Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 I tried d mace on bh about half a hour ago and 2 of the hits were over 20. Opponent was using dds and hit with 1 of his specials haha So d mace on their rune plate is awesome tbh :thumbsup: To everyone before this guy, well, yah it's your own preference really. You have more of a chance, and yeah, dds is good against d hide. But who pks with d hide?(Melee, not ranged) Also, the guy who saw the 52 with d mace on youtube, I dealed 54 earlier today on another dude, got another robe top.... I even deal a 65 on a zombie with salve. And to this guy's message, yay you know how i feel. :thumbsup: 16800000+ 15000000+ 9milGWD Drops:(Lootshare)2 Bandos Hilts, 1 BCP, 1 Bandos Tassets, 17 Snapdragon SeedsSlayer Drops: 7 Abbysal Whips, 37 Dragon Boots, 17 Mauls, 1 visage. Total Loot: 43mil+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalGum Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 use whatever works for you, let me know what you find in the long run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rkid Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 ( I know dds can deal a 38/38 spec,but really, you see that commonly? ) D mace can spec 50's, but really, you see that commonly? For me, yes. Every time i use a full spec bar, it's pretty common. O_O But since dds needs to hit twice, it has half the chance, while d mace needs only one. So yea 8-) That's flawed thinking because in total a dds can hit 76. Higher. Isn't the max for dds 90? Double 42 hit + 6 poison damage? Or is it higher against flagholder in Castle Wars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadukar123 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 With DDS and max Strength gear that doesn't degrade (Bandos, DFS), max hit per special with DDS is 43x2. Poison only does 1 splat every 15 seconds or so, so you'd only add +6 to the total specs. 86+86+86+86+6=350 max damage. Max with the same gear but Dragon mace is 57 57x4=228 max damage. So yeah. Drops: Misc: Abyssal Whip x28 , Dark Bow x5, Beserker Ring x3, Warrior ring x1 Dragon: Dragon Platelegs x2 , Dragon Plateskirt x2, Dragon Boots x38, Dragon Med Helm x4, Shield left half x3 Godwars: Godsword shard x13, Bandos Hilt x3, Bandos Chestplate x6, Bandos Tassets x4, Bandos Boots x5, Saradomin Sword x1, Zamorakian Spear x1,. Armadyl Helm x2, Armadyl chestplate x2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acowswrath Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 With DDS and max Strength gear that doesn't degrade (Bandos, DFS), max hit per special with DDS is 43x2. Poison only does 1 splat every 15 seconds or so, so you'd only add +6 to the total specs. 86+86+86+86+6=350 max damage. Max with the same gear but Dragon mace is 57 57x4=228 max damage. So yeah. Thats only theoretical though. And im sure the average player cant hit 43x2. BOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadukar123 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 You wouldn't hit 57 very often either. Drops: Misc: Abyssal Whip x28 , Dark Bow x5, Beserker Ring x3, Warrior ring x1 Dragon: Dragon Platelegs x2 , Dragon Plateskirt x2, Dragon Boots x38, Dragon Med Helm x4, Shield left half x3 Godwars: Godsword shard x13, Bandos Hilt x3, Bandos Chestplate x6, Bandos Tassets x4, Bandos Boots x5, Saradomin Sword x1, Zamorakian Spear x1,. Armadyl Helm x2, Armadyl chestplate x2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n64jive Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 To be honest, it's all theory and all luck....I'd say choose one of them and go with it...I prefer dds because of poison... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 What about dragon long? It's pretty accurate and can deal massive damage... Yeah, Dragon Longsword's spec can compete with the Dragon Mace's spec AND the DDS's spec. Reason? Dragon Longsword's spec is much more accurate than both of the above weapons, which means better chance of hitting a very high number. Not only that, but the strength gets a big boost as well (but not as much as the Dragon Mace). The highest hit I've seen on a Dragon Longsword is 54 on YouTube. Still, DDS's poison advantage CAN beat Dragon Longsword's special. BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Kurity Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 25% extra damage is nothing special. Now nearly double damage, thats something special. Also, they are both inaccurate, but DDS poisons, hits higher, can attack faster (can still spec fast if your first ko fails) And only uses 25% of the attack bar. O.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheapMark Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 The vast majority of pkers will not have done the heroes quest, therefore they will not use the d mace. When I pked I definately found a DDS spec to be very easy to pull of and highly effective....a dd is also cheaper than a d mace...making it a much more useful pk wep over the mace...well thats my thoughts at least.....I did pk in P2P very long..i was just a range/r2h hybrid... Cheap Mark - Going for 1050 Total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Corner Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 From my personal experiences, while the D-long and D-mace CAN hit hard, they are not very consistent. When you roll 0's with them, it can really hurt. DDS on the other hand is different because it deals twice as many attacks for your special bar. Sure they typically are not high, but from my perspective hitting 0-12 is better than taking a chance hitting 0's with the Mace or Long. As far as KO ability, the Long and Mace have more of this as they do hit harder and can catch your opponent off guard if your lucky. But because they are typically not consistent, DDS is a better option simply because with double the chances for hits. You know you are likely to hit at least something rather than nothing, which usually outweighs the chances of high hits the other two weapons have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilson1111 Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 From my personal experiences, while the D-long and D-mace CAN hit hard, they are not very consistent. When you roll 0's with them, it can really hurt. DDS on the other hand is different because it deals twice as many attacks for your special bar. Sure they typically are not high, but from my perspective hitting 0-12 is better than taking a chance hitting 0's with the Mace or Long. As far as KO ability, the Long and Mace have more of this as they do hit harder and can catch your opponent off guard if your lucky. But because they are typically not consistent, DDS is a better option simply because with double the chances for hits. You know you are likely to hit at least something rather than nothing, which usually outweighs the chances of high hits the other two weapons have. Lol, lately I've been having bad luck at bh, My first target was a pjer...(nub) And then the dharoker I fought used veng.... bah. Well, I change my mind, and you're mostly right. It's not consistent, and the times I did it I was maybe lucky, but I want to ask Jagex if crush has an effect on armor or not. Thanks anyways :mrgreen: 16800000+ 15000000+ 9milGWD Drops:(Lootshare)2 Bandos Hilts, 1 BCP, 1 Bandos Tassets, 17 Snapdragon SeedsSlayer Drops: 7 Abbysal Whips, 37 Dragon Boots, 17 Mauls, 1 visage. Total Loot: 43mil+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miracleman58 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Why is everyone going on about poison? I dont think its that amazing... 1593th to 99 Farming - July 08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huta Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 DDS is better than dmace and dlong, no questions about it, not even debateable. DDS has better max, better average, faster speed, poison for a little extra damage (raises your average damage per minute by 18 damage or so), ect ect. Dclaw and AGS are the only two melee weapons that can compare to dds KOs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilson1111 Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 DDS is better than dmace and dlong, no questions about it, not even debateable. DDS has better max, better average, faster speed, poison for a little extra damage (raises your average damage per minute by 18 damage or so), ect ect. Dclaw and AGS are the only two melee weapons that can compare to dds KOs. Dude, don't say it's not debateable. Thats for hunting monsters, against other people it's a different story. Read the title...PKING. 16800000+ 15000000+ 9milGWD Drops:(Lootshare)2 Bandos Hilts, 1 BCP, 1 Bandos Tassets, 17 Snapdragon SeedsSlayer Drops: 7 Abbysal Whips, 37 Dragon Boots, 17 Mauls, 1 visage. Total Loot: 43mil+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadukar123 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Actually Dragon longsword is quite good with it's spec, it's increase is in damage, not strength so you hit higher than normal. Drops: Misc: Abyssal Whip x28 , Dark Bow x5, Beserker Ring x3, Warrior ring x1 Dragon: Dragon Platelegs x2 , Dragon Plateskirt x2, Dragon Boots x38, Dragon Med Helm x4, Shield left half x3 Godwars: Godsword shard x13, Bandos Hilt x3, Bandos Chestplate x6, Bandos Tassets x4, Bandos Boots x5, Saradomin Sword x1, Zamorakian Spear x1,. Armadyl Helm x2, Armadyl chestplate x2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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