200M in all Skills

[Aasiwat]

Concerning rank 1, I think you'd be surprised about how many top players actually care about taking it. I believe Telmo, Elvis, and Jdel are far more interested in making noobs THINK they're competing heavily for #1 just for the "lulz" than they are in actually being #1. With that said, whoever takes #1 will probably end up having it as an extra side result of just their normal day-to-day training, rather than it being a specific goal.

 

 

Or maybe they secretly care but won't admit to it, who knows ;) As long as they're having fun with what they're doing, it shouldn't matter.

 

I care just about enough to not have stopped playing after Jagex clearly shifted towards making profit at all costs since MMG taking over and the Gowers (who really had a reason to be emotionally attached to the actual game) apparently stepping down as directors, most updates started to be aimed at gaining one time subs (that will not be permanent, as shown by website traffic engines) instead of keeping a healthy game for existing player base. What ever happened to the Gowers' zero bot and cheat tolerance policy, and just the general ideas of gaining a temporary subscription spike with bonus xp weekends, wilderness etc that just die down the next month but leave the game in a worse state than before. They seem to have dismissed the idea of RS simply being a good game as a reason to play, and it's definitely losing the touch it once had.

 

My play style is a lot more casual than it used to be though. I find clicking the game not a very high priority if there is something more interesting going on, I don't have any goals set within a specific time frame, I really enjoy solving Elite clues (shame they're too rare) etc.

[Emre]

+1

[Makaveli_93]

MMG is an idiot lol. No support to us high level and long-term players, everything Aasiwat said is correct tbh. Don't have to repeat it XD

 

+2

[Bini]

Concerning rank 1, I think you'd be surprised about how many top players actually care about taking it. I believe Telmo, Elvis, and Jdel are far more interested in making noobs THINK they're competing heavily for #1 just for the "lulz" than they are in actually being #1. With that said, whoever takes #1 will probably end up having it as an extra side result of just their normal day-to-day training, rather than it being a specific goal.

 

 

Or maybe they secretly care but won't admit to it, who knows ;) As long as they're having fun with what they're doing, it shouldn't matter.

 

I care just about enough to not have stopped playing after Jagex clearly shifted towards making profit at all costs since MMG taking over and the Gowers (who really had a reason to be emotionally attached to the actual game) apparently stepping down as directors, most updates started to be aimed at gaining one time subs (that will not be permanent, as shown by website traffic engines) instead of keeping a healthy game for existing player base. What ever happened to the Gowers' zero bot and cheat tolerance policy, and just the general ideas of gaining a temporary subscription spike with bonus xp weekends, wilderness etc that just die down the next month but leave the game in a worse state than before. They seem to have dismissed the idea of RS simply being a good game as a reason to play, and it's definitely losing the touch it once had.

 

My play style is a lot more casual than it used to be though. I find clicking the game not a very high priority if there is something more interesting going on, I don't have any goals set within a specific time frame, I really enjoy solving Elite clues (shame they're too rare) etc.

This page must be the most interesting page I've read so far on this thread. I completely agree with you on Gowers -> MMG and your play style.

 

I am surprised, I guess, that you among other top players post here, it was very rare before this thread. I honestly thought every famous person lived under a rock and sent their spies to check tip.it and other forums. :P

[Emre]

MMG is an idiot lol. No support to us high level and long-term players, everything Aasiwat said is correct tbh. Don't have to repeat it XD

 

+2

 

Okay I'll add the +3 :D

Or can you only +1 once per person? Lol. Mod Mmg horribly fails.

[Viv]

Yeh paper dg isnt fun with randoms but you can probably go with freinds and a few floors would make a dif at lower lvls but all the faster people are going to 200 sooner or later ;S......

 

and dont worry too much about dieing i die a billion times a map too ask hiran or jd :P

 

and yeh most players would rather play casual then say "i want xxx exp goal by xxx day"

[Makaveli_93]

MMG is an idiot lol. No support to us high level and long-term players, everything Aasiwat said is correct tbh. Don't have to repeat it XD

 

+2

 

Okay I'll add the +3 :D

Or can you only +1 once per person? Lol. Mod Mmg horribly fails.

+Over 9000.

 

Good fight.

[Emre]

MMG is an idiot lol. No support to us high level and long-term players, everything Aasiwat said is correct tbh. Don't have to repeat it XD

 

+2

 

Okay I'll add the +3 :D

Or can you only +1 once per person? Lol. Mod Mmg horribly fails.

+Over 9000.

 

Good fight.

 

hmg teh zarfought came back in teh tip.it mmorpg random event bbqwatermelons93!

[Makaveli_93]

MMG is an idiot lol. No support to us high level and long-term players, everything Aasiwat said is correct tbh. Don't have to repeat it XD

 

+2

 

Okay I'll add the +3 :D

Or can you only +1 once per person? Lol. Mod Mmg horribly fails.

+Over 9000.

 

Good fight.

 

hmg teh zarfought came back in teh tip.it mmorpg random event bbqwatermelons93!

This is obviously and undeniably a racist slur against the Zarfot nation of the mmorpgs of the tipit, true fact. Brb, gonna play the Real life Barney the Purple dinosaur role playing not online adventure universe 2011 TM.

[Emre]

MMG is an idiot lol. No support to us high level and long-term players, everything Aasiwat said is correct tbh. Don't have to repeat it XD

 

+2

 

Okay I'll add the +3 :D

Or can you only +1 once per person? Lol. Mod Mmg horribly fails.

+Over 9000.

 

Good fight.

 

hmg teh zarfought came back in teh tip.it mmorpg random event bbqwatermelons93!

This is obviously and undeniably a racist slur against the Zarfot nation of the mmorpgs of the tipit, true fact. Brb, gonna play the Real life Barney the Purple dinosaur role playing not online adventure universe 2011 TM.

 

LOL @@

[Bini]

Please guys, stop posting one word posts and take your off-topic conversations to PM.

 

 

As for Paperbag being first to 200M all skills, anything is possible. Whoever can keep playing for years to come will get it. Nothing is definite yet.

[Makaveli_93]

Please guys, stop posting one word posts and take your off-topic conversations to PM.

 

 

As for Paperbag being first to 200M all skills, anything is possible. Whoever can keep playing for years to come will get it. Nothing is definite yet.

No one said that it's impossible, just not likely if Suomi, Drum and Telmom keep playing at this pace. Of course if they all quit or slow down then anything is possible otherwise I highly doubt it. Btw, what is this charm attractor that Aasiwat mentioned earlier? Is that coming out any time soon or is this just a speculation? It would be an awesome item if they did release it.

[Aasiwat]

Mark told me at Runefest it had been planned. Seem to be taking a while though. Maybe it has something to do with the upcoming dungeoneering quest that has also been hinted at, although I think extra binds were mentioned as a reward.

[Makaveli_93]

Mark told me at Runefest it had been planned. Seem to be taking a while though. Maybe it has something to do with the upcoming dungeoneering quest that has also been hinted at, although I think extra binds were mentioned as a reward.

Hmm.. So I guess that level 100 DGers will get 4 binds and 120ers would get 5?

[Xensure]

Concerning rank 1, I think you'd be surprised about how many top players actually care about taking it. I believe Telmo, Elvis, and Jdel are far more interested in making noobs THINK they're competing heavily for #1 just for the "lulz" than they are in actually being #1. With that said, whoever takes #1 will probably end up having it as an extra side result of just their normal day-to-day training, rather than it being a specific goal.

[spoiler=Epic post]I guess I'm one of the few that really cares and wants rank 1 lol. Ever since I started this game that was my dream goal. I always adored Zezima and how much fame he got. I wanted exactly that. And after I got all 99s (before dung) I thought it might actually be possible since I was just learning how to flip just after I maxed. I caught on with it very quickly.

 

So as I went for 200m cooking with sharks I started making billions so I figured I had a great chance at rank 1 since I could do the super expensive buyables. I slowly made my way to the top page with the cheap buyable 200m xp skills. I think I may have been the most dedicated and one of the all time fastest flippers of all time tbh. I was easily making 40-60m a day when doing 200m firemaking and fletching. I easily had enough money to get 200m prayer and herblore etc. Rank 1 was looking very likely! And I knew Gertjaars wasn't rich enough to get the super expensive skills. So I was almost sure I would get it.

 

But then... dungeoneering decides to come out, which pretty much ruined this goal. Dungeoneering makes me want to punch the wall and cry irl. And it also ruined my motivation alot too for other 200ms. I slowed down a bit, but kept going anyway. I'm almost positive I would have achieved rank 1 if dungeoneering didn't come out when it did. I also didnt expect other top ranks to keep going at the pace they were, Allar and Drumgun for example, since I figured they didn't have the money for 200m prayer and herblore. And I knew that Allar wouldn't go for 200m range like I am right now since he enjoys slayer more. I enjoy training fast skills for the most part.

 

It's not that I want to be hidden underneath the top overall page. In fact, I want it more than anyone. It's just that I just cant train dungeoneering. I hate it so freaking much. And I have no idea how I am going to get 120. Effigies maybe? Lol. Or if I can figure out a way to not die 5 times a dungeon.

 

I do still want rank 1 very badly but just realize at this point it is most likely not going to happen. And I accept it. So instead my goal now is to get 200m xp in all skills. Sure I would still love to be rank 1 overall if I can get the chance to somehow, and get myself to do dungeoneering without wanting to cry about it.

 

I don't even really play this game for fun. I play mainly for ranks and gaining xp. Which can be fun at times still which is good. It does definitely get tireing after awhile training the same skill for weeks and I do burn out, but I force myself to keep going. It's still definitely alot better than playing something like WoW or something intensely combat related, which I strongly dislike.

 

My main aim from the beginning was to find something where I could try to be the best at it. I've come close, but not quite enough. But I've come so far so I will not give up now, and I never will. I will one day get all 200ms, I may not be the first, but I will do it. I never have any plans to quit unless I'm dead first. So let's hope that doesn't happen! I may slow down at times and take breaks but I would announce it if it were to be a massive break. But I never take massive breaks anyway :P

 

I definitely expect Suomi to beat me, and I dont mind too much. He's a great person too as I am great friends with him in game. I wish people would lay off the trolling to him with the donations and other crap. He really is a nice person and cares about people. I am quite like him I would say except I have less motivation than him and can't pull off the hours he does and I can't concentrate perfectly on skills like him for that long without feeling like I want to kill myself. But we do both love skilling with a passion. So I love ya mate. <3 Hopefully I can be 2nd to all 200m skills. But we'll see what happens.

 

Also I love to show off my hiscores and cash to people. I'm just a person who loves fans. The haters I don't like obviously but I try to change their viewpoint about why I do what I do. It makes me feel good about myself that I accomplished something so immense and had the attention to do the grinding required for 200m skills. It's fun getting spammed with trades at the G.E with people wanting to see my massive bank. It's very fun to know that they are in shock at how in the world I got my hands on all that money and wish they could have it. Lol, fun times. Not rich anymore though since there is no need to be, since I am basically done with buyables, after I finish 200m farming by the end of this year.

 

Anyway, not sure why I wrote all this, but with the mention about how people feel about rank 1, I felt I needed to let this out, and how my view of this game is and how I like to play it. You can post your comments about my views positively or negatively. I'm all up for how people feel about this. Enjoy the long read.

 

 

You might be the best candidate to give the cave crawler method a try since you seem to be the richest of the top 15 and you hate slayer and like fast xp. If you go all the way to 200m melee you will have gained enough effies for 200m slayer and 200m in rc, agil, drungeon, or whatever other skill you dislike the most. Even though you will be getting around 300k/h total xp (not including charms) I can't imagine they are much more fun than dungeon after the 1000th hour... lol. Goodluck in your endeavors. Just curious, but I am assuming you already have farming and summoning supplies for 200m already bought?

[Jebrim]

Concerning rank 1, I think you'd be surprised about how many top players actually care about taking it. I believe Telmo, Elvis, and Jdel are far more interested in making noobs THINK they're competing heavily for #1 just for the "lulz" than they are in actually being #1. With that said, whoever takes #1 will probably end up having it as an extra side result of just their normal day-to-day training, rather than it being a specific goal.

 

Agreed, Jd seems to want to keep his distance from Drumgun for the time being though.

Actually Jd claims to not care at all lol

 

About Dungeoneering, Paper, why don't you just solo it? People freak out over the Xp/hr rate, but almost nobody actuallys know exactly how much it is. Just do c6 meds all the way and make sure you have some plate armor. Armor > ssh in solo. I personally was getting about 50k-60k Xp/hr at any time on any floor in my late 70s. Ice floors are faster but less Xp and as you go deeper, the slower and more Xp floors keep the balance so that you're always getting roughly the same Xp/hr rate. At levels 100+, Dg solo is likely still well over 100k Xp/hr(probably 150k+), which alone makes it a viable option for training. Or maybe I'm the only one who sees it that way, considering I think that anything faster than Agility is absurdly fast. :P

 

@Maka

Drumgun is definitely NOT going for all 200m's so your arguments make absolutely no sense lol.

[langer]

Concerning rank 1, I think you'd be surprised about how many top players actually care about taking it. I believe Telmo, Elvis, and Jdel are far more interested in making noobs THINK they're competing heavily for #1 just for the "lulz" than they are in actually being #1. With that said, whoever takes #1 will probably end up having it as an extra side result of just their normal day-to-day training, rather than it being a specific goal.

 

Agreed, Jd seems to want to keep his distance from Drumgun for the time being though.

Actually Jd claims to not care at all lol

 

From a tracker's point of view, this is exactly what I would tell from watching him. Ever since last summer started, he has been keeping the same pace and has not rushed any skills even when he decided to max out. He's not distancing himself from Drumgun, it's the other way around.

 

I must say I really like the quality of discussion we have enjoyed these last 2-3 days. Keep it coming guys!

[Emre]

Anyone knows what Telmo's plans are after 200m str?

[Jebrim]

Expect to see a new uberly epic Cooking/Overall Week record soon by a good friend/clanmate of mine! :D

[essiw]

Mark told me at Runefest it had been planned. Seem to be taking a while though. Maybe it has something to do with the upcoming dungeoneering quest that has also been hinted at, although I think extra binds were mentioned as a reward.

I think it would be a Nice addition to the upcoming belt slot :) (jagex said somewhere that they were working on that)

[Skittles_And_Trance]

Concerning rank 1, I think you'd be surprised about how many top players actually care about taking it. I believe Telmo, Elvis, and Jdel are far more interested in making noobs THINK they're competing heavily for #1 just for the "lulz" than they are in actually being #1. With that said, whoever takes #1 will probably end up having it as an extra side result of just their normal day-to-day training, rather than it being a specific goal.

 

Agreed, Jd seems to want to keep his distance from Drumgun for the time being though.

Actually Jd claims to not care at all lol

 

From a tracker's point of view, this is exactly what I would tell from watching him. Ever since last summer started, he has been keeping the same pace and has not rushed any skills even when he decided to max out. He's not distancing himself from Drumgun, it's the other way around.

 

I must say I really like the quality of discussion we have enjoyed these last 2-3 days. Keep it coming guys!

 

It could also be that he too dislikes dungeoneering and mixes it up with other skills or he's training those other skills at a slower pace to make it more even with farming. I think he's going for 4 200ms this time (as he did with 2 and 3) so it should be dungeoneering, farming, thieving, fourth one probably defence.

[Makaveli_93]

Is it worth it to use urns while cooking?

 

EDIT:

@Jebrim

It wasn't an argument lol, and even though Drum isn't getting all 200ms I would still say that Telmom would be the second to get it and not Paperbag. Personally I don't care which one of them gets it, I would actually like it if Elias somehow played more and got it before any of them since he's a really good friend. Although this is unlikely because he actually has a social life :P

[Thai_tong]

Concerning rank 1, I think you'd be surprised about how many top players actually care about taking it. I believe Telmo, Elvis, and Jdel are far more interested in making noobs THINK they're competing heavily for #1 just for the "lulz" than they are in actually being #1. With that said, whoever takes #1 will probably end up having it as an extra side result of just their normal day-to-day training, rather than it being a specific goal.

[spoiler=Epic post]I guess I'm one of the few that really cares and wants rank 1 lol. Ever since I started this game that was my dream goal. I always adored Zezima and how much fame he got. I wanted exactly that. And after I got all 99s (before dung) I thought it might actually be possible since I was just learning how to flip just after I maxed. I caught on with it very quickly.

 

So as I went for 200m cooking with sharks I started making billions so I figured I had a great chance at rank 1 since I could do the super expensive buyables. I slowly made my way to the top page with the cheap buyable 200m xp skills. I think I may have been the most dedicated and one of the all time fastest flippers of all time tbh. I was easily making 40-60m a day when doing 200m firemaking and fletching. I easily had enough money to get 200m prayer and herblore etc. Rank 1 was looking very likely! And I knew Gertjaars wasn't rich enough to get the super expensive skills. So I was almost sure I would get it.

 

But then... dungeoneering decides to come out, which pretty much ruined this goal. Dungeoneering makes me want to punch the wall and cry irl. And it also ruined my motivation alot too for other 200ms. I slowed down a bit, but kept going anyway. I'm almost positive I would have achieved rank 1 if dungeoneering didn't come out when it did. I also didnt expect other top ranks to keep going at the pace they were, Allar and Drumgun for example, since I figured they didn't have the money for 200m prayer and herblore. And I knew that Allar wouldn't go for 200m range like I am right now since he enjoys slayer more. I enjoy training fast skills for the most part.

 

It's not that I want to be hidden underneath the top overall page. In fact, I want it more than anyone. It's just that I just cant train dungeoneering. I hate it so freaking much. And I have no idea how I am going to get 120. Effigies maybe? Lol. Or if I can figure out a way to not die 5 times a dungeon.

 

I do still want rank 1 very badly but just realize at this point it is most likely not going to happen. And I accept it. So instead my goal now is to get 200m xp in all skills. Sure I would still love to be rank 1 overall if I can get the chance to somehow, and get myself to do dungeoneering without wanting to cry about it.

 

I don't even really play this game for fun. I play mainly for ranks and gaining xp. Which can be fun at times still which is good. It does definitely get tireing after awhile training the same skill for weeks and I do burn out, but I force myself to keep going. It's still definitely alot better than playing something like WoW or something intensely combat related, which I strongly dislike.

 

My main aim from the beginning was to find something where I could try to be the best at it. I've come close, but not quite enough. But I've come so far so I will not give up now, and I never will. I will one day get all 200ms, I may not be the first, but I will do it. I never have any plans to quit unless I'm dead first. So let's hope that doesn't happen! I may slow down at times and take breaks but I would announce it if it were to be a massive break. But I never take massive breaks anyway :P

 

I definitely expect Suomi to beat me, and I dont mind too much. He's a great person too as I am great friends with him in game. I wish people would lay off the trolling to him with the donations and other crap. He really is a nice person and cares about people. I am quite like him I would say except I have less motivation than him and can't pull off the hours he does and I can't concentrate perfectly on skills like him for that long without feeling like I want to kill myself. But we do both love skilling with a passion. So I love ya mate. <3 Hopefully I can be 2nd to all 200m skills. But we'll see what happens.

 

Also I love to show off my hiscores and cash to people. I'm just a person who loves fans. The haters I don't like obviously but I try to change their viewpoint about why I do what I do. It makes me feel good about myself that I accomplished something so immense and had the attention to do the grinding required for 200m skills. It's fun getting spammed with trades at the G.E with people wanting to see my massive bank. It's very fun to know that they are in shock at how in the world I got my hands on all that money and wish they could have it. Lol, fun times. Not rich anymore though since there is no need to be, since I am basically done with buyables, after I finish 200m farming by the end of this year.

 

Anyway, not sure why I wrote all this, but with the mention about how people feel about rank 1, I felt I needed to let this out, and how my view of this game is and how I like to play it. You can post your comments about my views positively or negatively. I'm all up for how people feel about this. Enjoy the long read.

 

 

You might be the best candidate to give the cave crawler method a try since you seem to be the richest of the top 15 and you hate slayer and like fast xp. If you go all the way to 200m melee you will have gained enough effies for 200m slayer and 200m in rc, agil, drungeon, or whatever other skill you dislike the most. Even though you will be getting around 300k/h total xp (not including charms) I can't imagine they are much more fun than dungeon after the 1000th hour... lol. Goodluck in your endeavors. Just curious, but I am assuming you already have farming and summoning supplies for 200m already bought?

That's a great idea, I never really thought anyone would blow cash on it to save time but paperbag might have the motivation to do so.

 

 

"Perfect" task list is highly debatable, depends what do you mostly want to focus on. Effigies, charms, pure slayer xp or something intermediate?

 

Zarfot's task list was supposed to be constructed with maximum effigies on mind and he skipped tasks that weren't particularly good effigies per unit of time. If you were to go for absolute maximum slayer xp/h then Sumona might be worth exploring, several tasks in her dungeon (crawlers, banshees, basilisks) are very fast, between 60-90k/h. However, she doesn't assign dark beasts or ice wyrms which would no doubt kill your effigy ratio.

 

I don't specifically go for any of the above, as I don't purposely skip low-effigy tasks if I want to do them for other reasons (fire giants for afk task in CT, terrorbirds from shilo because they're a nice fast cannon task albeit non-effigy droppers)

I don't do fiends or wyverns which are good for summoning either because I just can't be bothered with them, although I'm thinking I will start doing fiends if the charm attractor is coming out any time before I am done with slayer. The reason I use Lapalok is because the only benefit I can personally see from Kuradal is slightly faster abyssals (as I wouldn't do anything else in her dungeon, cannon what's cannonable elsewhere) which does not outweigh four or five Kuradal unique tasks that would go on my skip list.

 

And something else to think about, each skipped task costs around 80k gp in runes that you could have bought with the points instead, if you want to look at it that way. I don't skip many tasks myself so I actually make a quite nice profit from slayer points.

Sorry i couldn't resist posting this *drumgun close your eyes* me and xensure made a formula for finding the perfect task list which can be adjusted depending on whether or not you want effigies and charms (Could add profit too if you knew gp/hr of all tasks). Unfortunately to find your best tasks we'd need someone with 93 slayer and 138cb to unblock all tasks, unlock aquanites and record maybe 100-300 tasks. I would personally do this if I was max cb and going for 99, but not yet.

[Aribiterspar]

@ Paperbag make sure you dont miss xensures post up there =p Is a very good idea if you have the $ its prolly stll possible to old school flip of some sort

[Emre]

im pretty sure Telmomarques = telmo-marques and not Telmom-arques lol. telmom as shortening sounds pretty ridiculous (tell mom) & Telmo prolly is a portuguese name or marques or those together. im pretty sure Telmo is the correct short form