Zizoz Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 ^I believe he is saying the 4199 hours are assuming Suomi uses effigies on Farming after 200m RC, and it would be 3919 if he uses them on Woodcutting instead 14662 hours and 27350m cash.Is that for a new account or starting at all 99s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xensure Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I would like to Suomi post about his plans about those 42.5m. I assumed he will use in Farming because he said something like "If I have only farm left, i can just go cave crawlers for 30m xp/month" when everyone used the argument that he wouldn't ever get 200m all because of farming. If he uses it in Woodcutting, he will need 3919 hours. Ok first off, I am not sure if you have said this, but people have been saying that he should max RC and then start opening effigies with summoning. No. Not at all, that would be inefficient. He should stop using his lamps on RC after he uses 1802 more on RC and then he should switch and start using his lamps on woodcutting that way he will max RC and Attack at the same time. Here is the proof for that figure below. Using Suomi's stats tracked from Nov. 16th (when he stopped crafting) to Jan 8th (today) Average # of effigies investigated for each skill. WC: 649.77Craft: 628FM: 633.33Thief: 650.22Hunter: 684 Avg # of effigies = 650 Melee xp/Effigy76,521.29 Total Remaining Melee xp191,173,615Expected Effigies to be obtained2498Total Investigation xp per skill28,102,500Total Lamp xp119,976,442Remaining RC xp114,619,305Remaining RC xp to be Lamped86,516,805Number of Lamps needed to max RC1802Remaining Lamp xp to be used on WCing33,459,637 EDIT: Ignore the below. I found an error in my thought process. The same idea still applies, but the numbers are off. The above is still true though and holds valid and very accurate.Now about farming. Based on the fact that over the past year (1/8/11 - 1/8/12) Suomi has done 77.5m Farming xp, and assuming it takes him about a year to max from now he will be about 20m shy of 200m farming when he has 200m everything else. So again efficiency comes in to play here. If you want to be efficient in terms of play time you would use all of the lamps on WCing and then when everything is maxed but farming you would just log in to do farming runs. But I am sure that one would want 200m all ASAP in real time. So if Suomi were to use all of the extra lamps on WCing and still want to max at the end of the year, he would have to do watermellon and torstol runs which are about 15k xp for 10 minutes of work, so about 90k xp/hr. Since 90k is less than the 140k you can get WCing it would be efficient to use about 20m worth of lamps on farming. However This just doesn't feel right. And since there is going to be a year passing here things may change. So what I would do personally is keep opening your effigies until you have like 185m attack xp, and then for the rest of the time until 200m attack open your effigies to the gorged stage and then bank them. You should have 350 in the bank when you get 200m attack then. This will also let you see how many you have to investigate WCing and farming and some insurance banked xp. At this point I would do thieving to like 180m and at this point if nothing has changed in farming or Wcing I would just use them on farming, but you could stall longer. Get up to 180m hunter now and then so the same with crafting and if still nothing has changed use them on farming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgmir Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I would like to Suomi post about his plans about those 42.5m. I assumed he will use in Farming because he said something like "If I have only farm left, i can just go cave crawlers for 30m xp/month" when everyone used the argument that he wouldn't ever get 200m all because of farming. If he uses it in Woodcutting, he will need 3919 hours. Ok first off, I am not sure if you have said this, but people have been saying that he should max RC and then start opening effigies with summoning. No. Not at all, that would be inefficient. He should stop using his lamps on RC after he uses 1802 more on RC and then he should switch and start using his lamps on woodcutting that way he will max RC and Attack at the same time. Here is the proof for that figure below.Now about farming. Based on the fact that over the past year (1/8/11 - 1/8/12) Suomi has done 77.5m Farming xp, and assuming it takes him about a year to max from now he will be about 20m shy of 200m farming when he has 200m everything else. So again efficiency comes in to play here. If you want to be efficient in terms of play time you would use all of the lamps on WCing and then when everything is maxed but farming you would just log in to do farming runs. But I am sure that one would want 200m all ASAP in real time. So if Suomi were to use all of the extra lamps on WCing and still want to max at the end of the year, he would have to do watermellon and torstol runs which are about 15k xp for 10 minutes of work, so about 90k xp/hr. Since 90k is less than the 140k you can get WCing it would be efficient to use about 20m worth of lamps on farming. However This just doesn't feel right. And since there is going to be a year passing here things may change. So what I would do personally is keep opening your effigies until you have like 185m attack xp, and then for the rest of the time until 200m attack open your effigies to the gorged stage and then bank them. You should have 350 in the bank when you get 200m attack then. This will also let you see how many you have to investigate WCing and farming and some insurance banked xp. At this point I would do thieving to like 180m and at this point if nothing has changed in farming or Wcing I would just use them on farming, but you could stall longer. Get up to 180m hunter now and then so the same with crafting and if still nothing has changed use them on farming. I did a similar analysis about a month ago, which I'll now quote here. The thing to keep in mind is that his farming rates are heavily skewed by the amount of effigies he's opening, so you can't lump all his farming together. Average def xp per day: 960kAverage hp xp per day: 500kAverage xp per day in fm/craft/wc/hunt/thieving: 150kAverage farming xp per day: 315kAverage rc exp per day: 820k We can extrapolate from this to make guesses as to when SUOMI will hit some major milestones. SUOMI is nothing if not consistent, so we can anticipate these to be fairly accurate guesses. He should stop using the lamps on RC at 190M xp, then use all the lamps on wc and only investigate with RC. This will lead to him getting 200M RC and 200M attack at the same time, with a lot of wc xp thrown in as a bonus. If he follows this plan, which I think is the most efficient, he'll finish crawlering around July 15, with the following stats: 200M Attack200M Defense200M HP172M WC100M FM125M Crafting53M Thieving163M Farming200M RC52M Hunting Putting these in a time calc says SUOMI would still have another 1700 hours to go afterwards, and if he plays 11 hours a day, that gives him 200M all skills on... December 21, 2012. SUOMI has indeed been sticking to a nearly constant pace during the month since I posted this. I just recalculated his xp rates and nothing's changed by more than 5%. I conclude that my previous analysis is still valid. The one question I didn't address before, which has just come up in discussion, is farming: if SUOMI finishes melees using effigies for woodcutting, will he still get 200M farming before maxing everything else? I'm going to assume everything else goes exactly as I described above. SUOMI will thus finish crawlering around July 15 with 163M farming xp, and will finish all other skills around December 21. Thus, the question becomes, can he get 37M farming xp in 160 days? That would require about 230k farming xp per day. When SUOMI's farming wasn't supplemented by effigies (December 2010-February 2011), he was averaging ~165k xp per day. So it would seem that he will not finish farming on time if he doesn't do any extra training of it. He would end up with 200M in everything else, but only about 190M farming. Granted, that would only take a week or so to finish off with trees + crawlers, but why spend an unnecessary week? Taking this into account, the most efficient way to max is thus to crawler to 190M runecrafting, then spend an extra 10M in lamps on farming (~210 effigies), then use the rest on woodcutting until 200M attack. He should still finish crawlers around July 15, but with the following stats: 200M Attack200M Defense200M HP162M WC100M FM125M Crafting53M Thieving173M Farming200M RC52M Hunting This will slow him down slightly from my original estimate, but not much. It does seem that SUOMI needs a bit more farming xp to not be working overtime to finish that off last, but only an extra 10M xp. After that extra 10M xp, he can use the rest of his lamps on wc and still finish farming on time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xensure Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 [spoiler=Large Quote]I would like to Suomi post about his plans about those 42.5m. I assumed he will use in Farming because he said something like "If I have only farm left, i can just go cave crawlers for 30m xp/month" when everyone used the argument that he wouldn't ever get 200m all because of farming. If he uses it in Woodcutting, he will need 3919 hours. Ok first off, I am not sure if you have said this, but people have been saying that he should max RC and then start opening effigies with summoning. No. Not at all, that would be inefficient. He should stop using his lamps on RC after he uses 1802 more on RC and then he should switch and start using his lamps on woodcutting that way he will max RC and Attack at the same time. Here is the proof for that figure below.Now about farming. Based on the fact that over the past year (1/8/11 - 1/8/12) Suomi has done 77.5m Farming xp, and assuming it takes him about a year to max from now he will be about 20m shy of 200m farming when he has 200m everything else. So again efficiency comes in to play here. If you want to be efficient in terms of play time you would use all of the lamps on WCing and then when everything is maxed but farming you would just log in to do farming runs. But I am sure that one would want 200m all ASAP in real time. So if Suomi were to use all of the extra lamps on WCing and still want to max at the end of the year, he would have to do watermellon and torstol runs which are about 15k xp for 10 minutes of work, so about 90k xp/hr. Since 90k is less than the 140k you can get WCing it would be efficient to use about 20m worth of lamps on farming. However This just doesn't feel right. And since there is going to be a year passing here things may change. So what I would do personally is keep opening your effigies until you have like 185m attack xp, and then for the rest of the time until 200m attack open your effigies to the gorged stage and then bank them. You should have 350 in the bank when you get 200m attack then. This will also let you see how many you have to investigate WCing and farming and some insurance banked xp. At this point I would do thieving to like 180m and at this point if nothing has changed in farming or Wcing I would just use them on farming, but you could stall longer. Get up to 180m hunter now and then so the same with crafting and if still nothing has changed use them on farming. I did a similar analysis about a month ago, which I'll now quote here. The thing to keep in mind is that his farming rates are heavily skewed by the amount of effigies he's opening, so you can't lump all his farming together. Average def xp per day: 960kAverage hp xp per day: 500kAverage xp per day in fm/craft/wc/hunt/thieving: 150kAverage farming xp per day: 315kAverage rc exp per day: 820k We can extrapolate from this to make guesses as to when SUOMI will hit some major milestones. SUOMI is nothing if not consistent, so we can anticipate these to be fairly accurate guesses. He should stop using the lamps on RC at 190M xp, then use all the lamps on wc and only investigate with RC. This will lead to him getting 200M RC and 200M attack at the same time, with a lot of wc xp thrown in as a bonus. If he follows this plan, which I think is the most efficient, he'll finish crawlering around July 15, with the following stats: 200M Attack200M Defense200M HP172M WC100M FM125M Crafting53M Thieving163M Farming200M RC52M Hunting Putting these in a time calc says SUOMI would still have another 1700 hours to go afterwards, and if he plays 11 hours a day, that gives him 200M all skills on... December 21, 2012. SUOMI has indeed been sticking to a nearly constant pace during the month since I posted this. I just recalculated his xp rates and nothing's changed by more than 5%. I conclude that my previous analysis is still valid. The one question I didn't address before, which has just come up in discussion, is farming: if SUOMI finishes melees using effigies for woodcutting, will he still get 200M farming before maxing everything else? I'm going to assume everything else goes exactly as I described above. SUOMI will thus finish crawlering around July 15 with 163M farming xp, and will finish all other skills around December 21. Thus, the question becomes, can he get 37M farming xp in 160 days? That would require about 230k farming xp per day. When SUOMI's farming wasn't supplemented by effigies (December 2010-February 2011), he was averaging ~165k xp per day. So it would seem that he will not finish farming on time if he doesn't do any extra training of it. He would end up with 200M in everything else, but only about 190M farming. Granted, that would only take a week or so to finish off with trees + crawlers, but why spend an unnecessary week? Taking this into account, the most efficient way to max is thus to crawler to 190M runecrafting, then spend an extra 10M in lamps on farming (~210 effigies), then use the rest on woodcutting until 200M attack. He should still finish crawlers around July 15, but with the following stats: 200M Attack200M Defense200M HP162M WC100M FM125M Crafting53M Thieving173M Farming200M RC52M Hunting This will slow him down slightly from my original estimate, but not much. It does seem that SUOMI needs a bit more farming xp to not be working overtime to finish that off last, but only an extra 10M xp. After that extra 10M xp, he can use the rest of his lamps on wc and still finish farming on time. Your rates are bit off. It is ill advised to use average xp rates like that. It is better to use larger sample sizes like my approach to the effigy numbers. However you made me realize an error in my conclusion about farming that I will have to redress tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgmir Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 [spoiler=Large Quote]I would like to Suomi post about his plans about those 42.5m. I assumed he will use in Farming because he said something like "If I have only farm left, i can just go cave crawlers for 30m xp/month" when everyone used the argument that he wouldn't ever get 200m all because of farming. If he uses it in Woodcutting, he will need 3919 hours. Ok first off, I am not sure if you have said this, but people have been saying that he should max RC and then start opening effigies with summoning. No. Not at all, that would be inefficient. He should stop using his lamps on RC after he uses 1802 more on RC and then he should switch and start using his lamps on woodcutting that way he will max RC and Attack at the same time. Here is the proof for that figure below.Now about farming. Based on the fact that over the past year (1/8/11 - 1/8/12) Suomi has done 77.5m Farming xp, and assuming it takes him about a year to max from now he will be about 20m shy of 200m farming when he has 200m everything else. So again efficiency comes in to play here. If you want to be efficient in terms of play time you would use all of the lamps on WCing and then when everything is maxed but farming you would just log in to do farming runs. But I am sure that one would want 200m all ASAP in real time. So if Suomi were to use all of the extra lamps on WCing and still want to max at the end of the year, he would have to do watermellon and torstol runs which are about 15k xp for 10 minutes of work, so about 90k xp/hr. Since 90k is less than the 140k you can get WCing it would be efficient to use about 20m worth of lamps on farming. However This just doesn't feel right. And since there is going to be a year passing here things may change. So what I would do personally is keep opening your effigies until you have like 185m attack xp, and then for the rest of the time until 200m attack open your effigies to the gorged stage and then bank them. You should have 350 in the bank when you get 200m attack then. This will also let you see how many you have to investigate WCing and farming and some insurance banked xp. At this point I would do thieving to like 180m and at this point if nothing has changed in farming or Wcing I would just use them on farming, but you could stall longer. Get up to 180m hunter now and then so the same with crafting and if still nothing has changed use them on farming. I did a similar analysis about a month ago, which I'll now quote here. The thing to keep in mind is that his farming rates are heavily skewed by the amount of effigies he's opening, so you can't lump all his farming together. Average def xp per day: 960kAverage hp xp per day: 500kAverage xp per day in fm/craft/wc/hunt/thieving: 150kAverage farming xp per day: 315kAverage rc exp per day: 820k We can extrapolate from this to make guesses as to when SUOMI will hit some major milestones. SUOMI is nothing if not consistent, so we can anticipate these to be fairly accurate guesses. He should stop using the lamps on RC at 190M xp, then use all the lamps on wc and only investigate with RC. This will lead to him getting 200M RC and 200M attack at the same time, with a lot of wc xp thrown in as a bonus. If he follows this plan, which I think is the most efficient, he'll finish crawlering around July 15, with the following stats: 200M Attack200M Defense200M HP172M WC100M FM125M Crafting53M Thieving163M Farming200M RC52M Hunting Putting these in a time calc says SUOMI would still have another 1700 hours to go afterwards, and if he plays 11 hours a day, that gives him 200M all skills on... December 21, 2012. SUOMI has indeed been sticking to a nearly constant pace during the month since I posted this. I just recalculated his xp rates and nothing's changed by more than 5%. I conclude that my previous analysis is still valid. The one question I didn't address before, which has just come up in discussion, is farming: if SUOMI finishes melees using effigies for woodcutting, will he still get 200M farming before maxing everything else? I'm going to assume everything else goes exactly as I described above. SUOMI will thus finish crawlering around July 15 with 163M farming xp, and will finish all other skills around December 21. Thus, the question becomes, can he get 37M farming xp in 160 days? That would require about 230k farming xp per day. When SUOMI's farming wasn't supplemented by effigies (December 2010-February 2011), he was averaging ~165k xp per day. So it would seem that he will not finish farming on time if he doesn't do any extra training of it. He would end up with 200M in everything else, but only about 190M farming. Granted, that would only take a week or so to finish off with trees + crawlers, but why spend an unnecessary week? Taking this into account, the most efficient way to max is thus to crawler to 190M runecrafting, then spend an extra 10M in lamps on farming (~210 effigies), then use the rest on woodcutting until 200M attack. He should still finish crawlers around July 15, but with the following stats: 200M Attack200M Defense200M HP162M WC100M FM125M Crafting53M Thieving173M Farming200M RC52M Hunting This will slow him down slightly from my original estimate, but not much. It does seem that SUOMI needs a bit more farming xp to not be working overtime to finish that off last, but only an extra 10M xp. After that extra 10M xp, he can use the rest of his lamps on wc and still finish farming on time. Your rates are bit off. It is ill advised to use average xp rates like that. It is better to use larger sample sizes like my approach to the effigy numbers. However you made me realize an error in my conclusion about farming that I will have to redress tomorrow. Which of my rates do you think are off? All are based on runetrack data of periods spanning more than a month, so I'm not sure what you mean by implying that my sample size is too small. Edit: I'm aware I have some rounding errors in my investigating skills, but I consider those errors small and, moreover, irrelevant to the farming discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asfcjfdyitfhglh Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Summoning is, assuming geyser titans on bxp (after it's at 1.1), 40 hours? Only non-200M skill not listed so I was wondering if you counted that or if he would've gotten it over bxp weekend in march, because 40 hours could easily be done in the 2 days after, plus the remaining 12 hours of the first day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luwts Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I don't see why it even matters whether Suomi's last 200m is farming. When this was brought up awhile ago, he said that in that situation he would just crawler while still maintaining his regular farm runs, which would be around 1m xp/day. Even if he had 20m farming xp left, that would still only be a few weeks' time...which is not very much when compared to the years that Suomi has played already. In short, this discussion seems irrelevant. The only reason I can think of for bringing it up is so that you guys can feel good about finding the most efficient method for Suomi to use, which, realistically, does not matter much at all. I think Suomi will be very excited when he's at 4.9B xp+ regardless of how much farming xp he has left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xensure Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 [spoiler=Large Quote]I would like to Suomi post about his plans about those 42.5m. I assumed he will use in Farming because he said something like "If I have only farm left, i can just go cave crawlers for 30m xp/month" when everyone used the argument that he wouldn't ever get 200m all because of farming. If he uses it in Woodcutting, he will need 3919 hours. Ok first off, I am not sure if you have said this, but people have been saying that he should max RC and then start opening effigies with summoning. No. Not at all, that would be inefficient. He should stop using his lamps on RC after he uses 1802 more on RC and then he should switch and start using his lamps on woodcutting that way he will max RC and Attack at the same time. Here is the proof for that figure below.Now about farming. Based on the fact that over the past year (1/8/11 - 1/8/12) Suomi has done 77.5m Farming xp, and assuming it takes him about a year to max from now he will be about 20m shy of 200m farming when he has 200m everything else. So again efficiency comes in to play here. If you want to be efficient in terms of play time you would use all of the lamps on WCing and then when everything is maxed but farming you would just log in to do farming runs. But I am sure that one would want 200m all ASAP in real time. So if Suomi were to use all of the extra lamps on WCing and still want to max at the end of the year, he would have to do watermellon and torstol runs which are about 15k xp for 10 minutes of work, so about 90k xp/hr. Since 90k is less than the 140k you can get WCing it would be efficient to use about 20m worth of lamps on farming. However This just doesn't feel right. And since there is going to be a year passing here things may change. So what I would do personally is keep opening your effigies until you have like 185m attack xp, and then for the rest of the time until 200m attack open your effigies to the gorged stage and then bank them. You should have 350 in the bank when you get 200m attack then. This will also let you see how many you have to investigate WCing and farming and some insurance banked xp. At this point I would do thieving to like 180m and at this point if nothing has changed in farming or Wcing I would just use them on farming, but you could stall longer. Get up to 180m hunter now and then so the same with crafting and if still nothing has changed use them on farming. I did a similar analysis about a month ago, which I'll now quote here. The thing to keep in mind is that his farming rates are heavily skewed by the amount of effigies he's opening, so you can't lump all his farming together. Average def xp per day: 960kAverage hp xp per day: 500kAverage xp per day in fm/craft/wc/hunt/thieving: 150kAverage farming xp per day: 315kAverage rc exp per day: 820k We can extrapolate from this to make guesses as to when SUOMI will hit some major milestones. SUOMI is nothing if not consistent, so we can anticipate these to be fairly accurate guesses. He should stop using the lamps on RC at 190M xp, then use all the lamps on wc and only investigate with RC. This will lead to him getting 200M RC and 200M attack at the same time, with a lot of wc xp thrown in as a bonus. If he follows this plan, which I think is the most efficient, he'll finish crawlering around July 15, with the following stats: 200M Attack200M Defense200M HP172M WC100M FM125M Crafting53M Thieving163M Farming200M RC52M Hunting Putting these in a time calc says SUOMI would still have another 1700 hours to go afterwards, and if he plays 11 hours a day, that gives him 200M all skills on... December 21, 2012. SUOMI has indeed been sticking to a nearly constant pace during the month since I posted this. I just recalculated his xp rates and nothing's changed by more than 5%. I conclude that my previous analysis is still valid. The one question I didn't address before, which has just come up in discussion, is farming: if SUOMI finishes melees using effigies for woodcutting, will he still get 200M farming before maxing everything else? I'm going to assume everything else goes exactly as I described above. SUOMI will thus finish crawlering around July 15 with 163M farming xp, and will finish all other skills around December 21. Thus, the question becomes, can he get 37M farming xp in 160 days? That would require about 230k farming xp per day. When SUOMI's farming wasn't supplemented by effigies (December 2010-February 2011), he was averaging ~165k xp per day. So it would seem that he will not finish farming on time if he doesn't do any extra training of it. He would end up with 200M in everything else, but only about 190M farming. Granted, that would only take a week or so to finish off with trees + crawlers, but why spend an unnecessary week? Taking this into account, the most efficient way to max is thus to crawler to 190M runecrafting, then spend an extra 10M in lamps on farming (~210 effigies), then use the rest on woodcutting until 200M attack. He should still finish crawlers around July 15, but with the following stats: 200M Attack200M Defense200M HP162M WC100M FM125M Crafting53M Thieving173M Farming200M RC52M Hunting This will slow him down slightly from my original estimate, but not much. It does seem that SUOMI needs a bit more farming xp to not be working overtime to finish that off last, but only an extra 10M xp. After that extra 10M xp, he can use the rest of his lamps on wc and still finish farming on time. Your rates are bit off. It is ill advised to use average xp rates like that. It is better to use larger sample sizes like my approach to the effigy numbers. However you made me realize an error in my conclusion about farming that I will have to redress tomorrow. Which of my rates do you think are off? All are based on runetrack data of periods spanning more than a month, so I'm not sure what you mean by implying that my sample size is too small. Edit: I'm aware I have some rounding errors in my investigating skills, but I consider those errors small and, moreover, irrelevant to the farming discussion. I suppose for this type of calculation it is ok to take average xp rates, because you can use all of the information as a smoothing factor, but it is risky. When you start to use xp/hr or xp/day rates you are bringing in another factor that will make your calculations more inaccurate. The factor of time is very hard to measure when measuring hours people usually extrapolate from minutes, when measuring days we rely on tracker sites which have their own flaws. If you rely on pure xp to xp ratios you take the factor of time out off the equation and thus your predictions are more accurate. You are also averaging farming runs and investigation in the same rate. Same thing with RC lamps, investigation, and assists. I suppose I am just preaching to good statistic sampling practices when it is not needed, but asi es la vida. Summoning is, assuming geyser titans on bxp (after it's at 1.1), 40 hours? Only non-200M skill not listed so I was wondering if you counted that or if he would've gotten it over bxp weekend in march, because 40 hours could easily be done in the 2 days after, plus the remaining 12 hours of the first day. I am not sure what you mean here. Suomi wont be gaining any xp in summoning until after he finishes crawlers or the next BXPW, but it isn't really relevant to anything else. It is included in Geomoes' time calculator, but it is a very short time frame since it is such fast xp. 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Blizaga57 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Now you just need to calculate the optimal way to suomi to use his refer a friend bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 So can anyone make a list of the top 5 out of the top 15 (so the top 16-20) And the amount of xp they have? My attempts to look those up failed :P Only the names would be great too, then I can find the xp. (I can find some, but not all are full maxed) AthymySeasonPiddy10DapledoSimon Got it from here: http://supremeskillers.net/hiscores.php L that is so wrong.15th atm is Paperbag which is 2.166b 16th - Da Broman117th - Number1 Boss18th - Skiller 70319th - Paulrat3 20th - Gertjaars/Athymy I am not 100% certain on 19th and 20th. Although mine is a lot closer than yours Gemeos, seeing as Dapledo and Simon aren't even 2b+. Thanks both :)So that would be:16th - Da Broman1 2,10B (+11M)17th - Number1 Boss 2,09B (+5,7M)18th - Skiller 703 2,07B (+8,7M)19th - Paulrat3 2,03B (+19M)20th - Athymy 2,02B (+11M)Gertjaars had 20k less xp than Athymy has now when he went f2p, so that would make him 21th (unless he got xp in f2p) http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallstar Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Is Skiller 703 even planning on 200m all? Sure he's had some nice agility gains, but does that really make people think he has more chance than the current top 5 at being second to 200m all? Asmodean <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Is Skiller 703 even planning on 200m all? Sure he's had some nice agility gains, but does that really make people think he has more chance than the current top 5 at being second to 200m all?He has more chance than Jdelacroix has to reach second. As you can see Skiller 703 is 8th in the time calc and Jdelacroix is 11th. Although Skiller 703 does need a lot of money and Jdelacroix doesn't. http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilbreppintc Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Sooner or later these players will realise that they have been experiencing a faulse sense of happiness. True happiness comes not from a pleasurable sensation but from deep fulfillment and serenity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auror Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 WTF, did S U O M I really get 2m rc xp yesterday or is it again some kind of bug? (From runetraxx) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemeos2 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Is Skiller 703 even planning on 200m all? I remenber him saying that it was his plan, probably over a year ago. He might have change his mind, or maybe not. My youtube channel with efficient skilling guides and achievements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 WTF, did S U O M I really get 2m rc xp yesterday or is it again some kind of bug? (From runetraxx)Runetracker.org says the same, so I would assume it is right, but could be a bug from the runescape highscores. http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemeos2 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Melee xp/Effigy76,521.29 Just ajusted this in my calculator since that sample is bigger than the sample I was using (30 days). My youtube channel with efficient skilling guides and achievements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luwts Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 WTF, did S U O M I really get 2m rc xp yesterday or is it again some kind of bug? (From runetraxx)Runetracker.org says the same, so I would assume it is right, but could be a bug from the runescape highscores.He hadn't used his effigies in a couple days, so it's a realistic xp gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capo_di_Capi Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Sooner or later these players will realise that they have been experiencing a faulse sense of happiness. True happiness comes not from a pleasurable sensation but from deep fulfillment and serenity. 200M all won't give you 'true happiness' just like a religious belief or mindset would give. But neither does a study, work, or even a family. I'm sure fulfiling such a huge goal does give an enourmous amount of satisfaction for years and years. 200M can be compared to doing high school twice (timewise), but takes way more willpower to wake up every morning and play for 11 hours straight. And not just playing, but as efficient as one can be. I can't speak for any contender here, but if I would accomplish such a goal right now, I'm sure 10 years from now I would look back and be proud that I sticked to the goal I set, a goal thousands of people couldn't reach. Of course you're right, Suomi is probably smart enough to realise that he won't get anything more out of all this except for satisfaction. I feel a sense of disgust from you towards the contenders, correct me if I'm wrong. But even Obama won't find true happiness in being boss of the world ;). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebrim Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Is Skiller 703 even planning on 200m all? Sure he's had some nice agility gains, but does that really make people think he has more chance than the current top 5 at being second to 200m all?He has more chance than Jdelacroix has to reach second. As you can see Skiller 703 is 8th in the time calc and Jdelacroix is 11th. Although Skiller 703 does need a lot of money and Jdelacroix doesn't.Jamie is undervalued because he has a lot of slow skills high and not so much on the fast skills. He's working on 50m base atm. Agilitizing my way to 1,000,000,000xp!Follow my progress on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/The1Jebrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Is Skiller 703 even planning on 200m all? Sure he's had some nice agility gains, but does that really make people think he has more chance than the current top 5 at being second to 200m all?He has more chance than Jdelacroix has to reach second. As you can see Skiller 703 is 8th in the time calc and Jdelacroix is 11th. Although Skiller 703 does need a lot of money and Jdelacroix doesn't.Jamie is undervalued because he has a lot of slow skills high and not so much on the fast skills. He's working on 50m base atm.Like I said, it is all about if he can get the money for the fast skills, otherwise those could become slow skills ;) I also remember him being kicked out of the top15 a long time ago because he stopped gaining xp (or 1M per week), never heard anything of him again until now. http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Exp_Freak Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 You should be adding Skiller 703 into that update list. He's been nolifing Agility hardcore lately, 10m weeks.is he doing barb?ya, without a horn atm Both Skiller 703 and Klonki do horn team together; http://gyazo.com/89d25d285cb1ad732dd4f401b60c4dcc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebrim Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Not regularly, even if he's doing an occasional game. He's gonna start doing it regularly next month. I've been talking to him daily atm... About money, Jamie merches and has money sitting around atm. Agilitizing my way to 1,000,000,000xp!Follow my progress on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/The1Jebrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agen Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Elvis + Drumgun + Season are at lrc atm. Goals for 2012:Quest CapeMAX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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