The F2P General Discussion Thread

[sees_all1]

I just call him doggy.

 

New RSOF forum - constructive criticism. Time to go get that sorted out...

[Piu]

I just call him doggy.

 

New RSOF forum - constructive criticism. Time to go get that sorted out...

 

This is why I lub Sees. <3

 

Also- Future Updates and the rest are back. <3: I don't see why they had to remove those boards in the first place. Merging 8 boards into 1 board (Suggestions) Is actually speeding up the movement of threads, and also feeding Chewie more. Faux pas on Jagex's part?

 

And what was the whole point of changing the names of the boards? (Jagex Lite to Compliments) (Feedback to Constructive Criticism)

 

If they wanted to remove boards, might aswell remove Recent Updates, it's pretty much offspring of Rants forum.

[zhong881209]

And hopefully more people will actually come in the clan. When I logged in only 2 more people are in the chat, and neither are on the TIF F2P Dungeoneering world.

not that i dont want to go world 7, but that world had ping around 270 for me :(

in fact on average all world had 210 ping, so i can only enter australia, india, new zealand to had ping around 140 where my best ping is 120 - 130 ONLY sometime. :(

[Ocelotbren]

And can someone please confirm iron dragons?

 

I've come across an iron dragon.

[Pinkbullet3]

Perhaps a suggestion for Jagex: Have a little box in the lobby where you can access and put in your name, meaning you're looking for, say "People who want to do Floor 23 on Complexity 6" (you choose the Floor and Complexity level that you want the system to look for). When other people do the same thing, a group will automatically form, combining you and the other people...

 

Tbh, I think it'd be so much easier doing it this way than spamming "F23" and standing there for 5 minutes. Don't you think?

 

To take it to another level, perhaps it could go cross-realm; then, either the client could move the other players or you guys could decide on a world within a Dungeoneering lobby chat (since another chat INSIDE the Dungeon wouldn't make sense as the Public already works).

 

Just a thought. The reason I bring this up is because today I logged in and I was trying to think of ways to find people for F25. I ended up soloing it on C1 so I could unlock F26 (lame -.-). And then I headed from w113 to w7 to see if I could find anyone, but the highest Floor that I saw was 23.

 

And a quick side note: This system is how WoW has been doing it for years. They've also had Dungeons (called Instances over there) and Inspecting people for years too.

[zhong881209]

rather then the different floor/theme room will auto group us, actually i thinking of something like a portal or switch inside the room, after go in or pull it, mean you are wanted to auto group if not in a party or team leader pull will make whole team go in. where ppl can find party easier inside the respective room rather then outside.

[Youmu]

Ugh... Stomp is really annoying for me.

 

The lodestone part wasn't bad, but nearly the end he started hitting 170's and stuff. That is the reason why I somehow died. D:

[tetora69]

I got stuck by a P2P door in a dungeon, not permeting me to finish it.

I know Jagex said it isn't possible, but I'm sure of it.

There was 2 locked doors, and the P2P door left for me, and I had a key not corresponding to any of the doors. To be sure I didn't pass by a key without seeing it, I picked all the items in all the rooms, and sold them, leaving all the rooms empty.

So I had to restart all from the begining, it's already pretty anoying to not be able to get full room bonus in some dungeons because of P2P rooms, but it's even more anoying when these sort of bugs occurs.

[Oathkeeper]

Ugh... Stomp is really annoying for me.

 

The lodestone part wasn't bad, but nearly the end he started hitting 170's and stuff. That is the reason why I somehow died. D:

 

(PROTIP: When the slow flying rocks start coming towards you move atleast two squares away from where you were standing. 0 Damage.)

 

To the above poster:

That sound like a very bad glitch, hoping to see it fixed soon.

[Youmu]

(PROTIP: When the slow flying rocks start coming towards you move atleast two squares away from where you were standing. 0 Damage.)

So THAT"S WHY! I thought the 170 was one of his melee attacks. <_<

 

Thanks for the info!

[zhong881209]

check out new database and info about dungeoneering on tip.it

 

I got stuck by a P2P door in a dungeon, not permeting me to finish it.

I know Jagex said it isn't possible, but I'm sure of it.

There was 2 locked doors, and the P2P door left for me, and I had a key not corresponding to any of the doors. To be sure I didn't pass by a key without seeing it, I picked all the items in all the rooms, and sold them, leaving all the rooms empty.

So I had to restart all from the begining, it's already pretty anoying to not be able to get full room bonus in some dungeons because of P2P rooms, but it's even more anoying when these sort of bugs occurs.

are you in a party with other ppl?

if you got teammate leave, then you might not be able to finish it.

i think jagex say it pretty clear, set difficult high, then no one is able to leave. if someone plan to leave then set difficult to 1 or regroup after someone leave.

 

(PROTIP: When the slow flying rocks start coming towards you move atleast two squares away from where you were standing. 0 Damage.)

So THAT"S WHY! I thought the 170 was one of his melee attacks. <_<

Thanks for the info!

ops, i forget to tell you that when you fight it, haha i busy dungeoneering and i forget tell you that. my bad :blink: that is why i recommand you range or magic.

[tetora69]

are you in a party with other ppl?

if you got teammate leave, then you might not be able to finish it.

i think jagex say it pretty clear, set difficult high, then no one is able to leave. if someone plan to leave then set difficult to 1 or regroup after someone leave.

 

No I was soloing. I haven't tried Dungeonneering in party yet;

[Pinkbullet3]

are you in a party with other ppl?

if you got teammate leave, then you might not be able to finish it.

i think jagex say it pretty clear, set difficult high, then no one is able to leave. if someone plan to leave then set difficult to 1 or regroup after someone leave.

 

No I was soloing. I haven't tried Dungeonneering in party yet;

:shock: Daaang. You should start hittin' up those 5-man larges, lol. See what it's like.

[JAMjE]

So plasma proved that the 2 staves aren't worth getting, but what in your opinion is the best F2P Dung'ing reward?

[Piu]

Coal bags is most feasible as of now. Gem bags.. well. Unless you're a member with a glory and do star mining really often, it's not that worth it.

[zhong881209]

coal bag good for miner and smither

gem bags good for training under mobs that frequently drop gem

 

necklace and gravite staff is quite good for mage (as good as catalytic staff in the dungeon)(also 1 of the way for jagex to implement higher damage spell without giving us wave spell, a very good job)

 

2 law and nature staff can be good

good for ppl who telegrab items like wine of zamorak, and etc

as price of fire runes drop, save couple of nature while superheat and alchemy is good.

 

longbow sight is very good for low lvl ranger (also 1 of the way for jagex to implement stronger bow without giving us yew bow)

but what we need is a stronger shortbow and arrow.

 

tome of frost in combination with necklace, air staff or gravite staff and FoG combat robe, can truly save alot of money while casting water blast, while damage about the same as normal or might even high then normal fire blast

 

gravite weapon, only staff and longsword worth using, other seem like useless for me.

 

so far so good, jagex had done a good job implementing all this. as f2p melee is strong enough, so they focus more on other. however, i really wanted them to give us higher ranged damage

post any of your opinion for this.

[Piu]

[...] *snips*

 

so far so good, jagex had done a good job implementing all this. as f2p melee is strong enough, so they focus more on other. however, i really wanted them to give us higher ranged damage

post any of your opinion for this.

 

*snips* [...]

 

 

Yes, Jagex had done well on their part. But Magic and Ranged is still underpowered, hoping for improvements in batch 2 of Dungeoneering.

 

As for ranged.. They should've increased ranged max hit, instead of accuracy. Agreed that longbow sight was made for accuracy, but ranged is pretty much accurate now, using a shortbow and adamant arrows. Perhaps stronger bowstrings?

 

gem bags good for training under mobs that frequently drop gem

 

We don't have that yet?

 

2 law and nature staff can be good

good for ppl who telegrab items like wine of zamorak, and etc

as price of fire runes drop, save couple of nature while superheat and alchemy is good.

 

Thing is, you actually lose MORE money with the staves. You need to equip the staves to use them, that takes away your air staff (Telegrab) or fire staff (High alch/superheat). And looking at the prices of runes now, you're better off using elemental staves rather than Dungeoneering staves.

 

The staves are only worth it if you plan to alch to 40M magic xp, and that's for people who earn 500K per hour.

[Youmu]

It seems that longbow sight, coal bag, arcane blast necklace, and tome of frost are really the only "good" rewards. Not sure about gravite weaponry, and I don't think the nature/law staff or gem bag is worth using.

 

And Zhong and I just did a med dungeon on F1. We encountered a level 97 Astea Frostweb, and good god, was she DIFFICULT! I died like 3 times and I keep running out of food. >.<

 

After that we just did small dungeons. I must say, the co-op experience is way better than the solo experience.

[zhong881209]

2 law and nature staff can be good

Thing is, you actually lose MORE money with the staves. You need to equip the staves to use them, that takes away your air staff (Telegrab) or fire staff (High alch/superheat). And looking at the prices of runes now, you're better off using elemental staves rather than Dungeoneering staves.

The staves are only worth it if you plan to alch to 40M magic xp, and that's for people who earn 500K per hour.

eh? alch and superheat only use fire runes, and fire runes is SO cheap now. and for telegrab, it only use ONE air runes, i would rather spent money on air and fire runes then have a chance to not use the nature/law runes which cost so much more.

 

the dungeon size between small, med and large are so much different, but experience also big range between it. i would really recommand 5 ppl doing med for better xp/hr, since large is really too big, except with guide mod active.

[meb]

2 law and nature staff can be good

Thing is, you actually lose MORE money with the staves. You need to equip the staves to use them, that takes away your air staff (Telegrab) or fire staff (High alch/superheat). And looking at the prices of runes now, you're better off using elemental staves rather than Dungeoneering staves.

The staves are only worth it if you plan to alch to 40M magic xp, and that's for people who earn 500K per hour.

eh? alch and superheat only use fire runes, and fire runes is SO cheap now. and for telegrab, it only use ONE air runes, i would rather spent money on air and fire runes then have a chance to not use the nature/law runes which cost so much more.

The save chance is so low that you lose more cash on the 9 casts that don't save a rune than on the cast that does save the rune. :rolleyes:

[Piu]

eh? alch and superheat only use fire runes, and fire runes is SO cheap now. and for telegrab, it only use ONE air runes, i would rather spent money on air and fire runes then have a chance to not use the nature/law runes which cost so much more.

 

Nature staff has 1/10 chance to save nature runes. Which, also implies you save 1 nature rune from 10 alchs.

 

[Fire Rune- 6gp]

[Nature Rune- 273gp]

 

From 10 alchs you use 50 fire runes. (5 fire runes per alch). So 10 alchs would cost you 300gp, while saving you 1 nature rune- 273gp.

 

So- You actually lose 27gp MORE alching. And 15gp doing superheating. That's not including loss on items.

 

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Law staff, you save about 200gp per 10 casts. Saving you roughly 50K per hour if you do wines. That's not really worth it, actually. You're better off getting coal bags.

[Water]

A book with water runes... why not a book with fire runes, combined with the nature staff. <3:

[Piu]

Jagex would've thought of that. :3 Making high alching too cheap/feasible.

[Water]

Jagex would've thought of that. :3 Making high alching too cheap/feasible.

 

But I like cheap... ! :blink:

The Tome of Frost is rather meant for members who actually use water runes for lunar spells or w/e.

I don't see much use for it in F2P tbh. Saving a water rune when teleporting to Falador? meh...

And about the water blast... who trains with water blast?! :-?

I don't think the rewards offer many real 'improvements'.

They only offer alternatives.

 

Coal bag seems great, and for the rest, mweihh, I guess xp lamps... :huh:

[zhong881209]

@Plasma

ow... i never really count it myself, so it does lose money.

however, myself didnt really trust everything about %, as it may sometime higher or lower. although there state 10%, every cast is a new 10% chance. so there might be chance to lost more or earn. but more or less is still 10% chance, which resulting slightly lost.

but it will worth it. (in term of intangible benefit) well, since most ppl alch/superheat on fire staff, and you on nature staff, which can look cool. and most of the time is lose money to gain fast exp, so it didnt really matter to lose slightly more.

 

A book with water runes... why not a book with fire runes, combined with the nature staff. <3:

i think the whole point of implement that is to reduce the price of water runes, book of earth is also possible i think, but not air and fire, like Plasma say.

 

But I like cheap... ! :blink:

The Tome of Frost is rather meant for members who actually use water runes for lunar spells or w/e.

I don't see much use for it in F2P tbh. Saving a water rune when teleporting to Falador? meh...

And about the water blast... who trains with water blast?! :-?

I don't think the rewards offer many real 'improvements'.

They only offer alternatives.

like i say at the top, with combination of items, water blast can be worth using

XP lamps will be available for dungeoneering today maybe as jagex mod say so