The F2P General Discussion Thread

[anim7]

you dont have to quote my whole reply, it contain other unnecessary thing inside, but oh well...

really? thats interesting to know. oh ya, having high accurate is indeed deadly.

it really help ppl with just lvl up to 45 ranged to have godly accuracy that they cannot imagine.

actually this would partially solve the problems of ranger weak while low - med lvl as low damage that ranger can deal compare to fire blast at 59 magic lvl or str lvl.

OMG, full rune and can still that high ranged bonus, perfect against rev hunter.

 

can you testing more about ppl at 40 def full rune and 99 def wear nothing? ty

 

actually i think for lower lvl ranged, sinced they are mostly pures, dont need the accuracy. However, if they were fighting an armored opponent of the same lvl, then it might be beastly.

 

With 99 def wearing nothing, it is very accurate. Pretty much equal to the shortbow because its essentially a 80% hit rate vs a 90% hit rate (with sight)

I havent encounter much 40 def pures, but I have seen people with 90+ atk/str with 60 def. They are easy to hit through, but you need the full rune or else they get very accurate high scimmy hits on you. At cmb 107, with 40 def, they prolly have 99 atk and str.

[Animorph2]

The Longbow sight is not useful in the fact that I only want weapons that will allow me to gain faster exp.

[anim7]

The Longbow sight is not useful in the fact that I only want weapons that will allow me to gain faster exp.

 

Ya. The sight is definitely not a training weapon. Better stick to whacking the crop outta something with a scimmy. :)

I honestly don't think we'll be getting any faster training weapons anytime soon.

[Animorph2]

I'm definitely using the Gravite longsword for training though :D

[anim7]

whats the recharge fee for it?

[Youmu]

whats the recharge fee for it?

1M in cash. >.< Dunno about token recharge cost though.

 

Also, in a medium dungeon Zhong and I encountered a full argonite warrior AND a full katagon warrior (both in separate rooms of course). I thought those were supposed to be members?

[BiJay]

Also, in a medium dungeon Zhong and I encountered a full argonite warrior AND a full katagon warrior (both in separate rooms of course). I thought those were supposed to be members?

You mean supposed to be members as members doors/rooms and 100+ doors? These warriors shouldn't surprise you.

[zhong881209]

although the warrior are lvl around 70-90 and wearing higher tier equipment, can hit with very high accuracy and about 180 damage but it can be easily killed by using fire blast within 5 or 6 hits(100% hit rate for me) with protection from melee with great accuracy.

[Youmu]

I just use water blast for killing these dudes. All I can buy from the shop is a tangle gum staff anyways, so yeah. <_<

 

Once I reach 50 Dungeoneering I'm going to go bind a fire staff, and a spinebeam longbow (the frac spear can go die, I don't need any more melee exp). I have 125 frac arrows bound atm.

 

Oh and btw, should I bind a fire staff or a catalytic staff?

[zhong881209]

it is pretty clear, using fire staff then you can save 1 spot, where using catalytic staff, you can hit slightly above average. here is a link to refer to Catalytic Staff

it is better to bind arrow, since runes is easy to rc, but i cant rc death runes, argh.... wanted to up rc, but too slow and hard.

 

actually i thought of 1 thing, bind a melee weapon with good slash attack (i recommand battleaxe), staff that you like and fractite arrow.

the purpose is that you will start off with Spinebeam short/long bow at the start, so i would rather reenter the dungeon to get the longbow rather then bind it.

ranged is about the same style as stab, magic to armored warrior, combine with battleaxe that same speed with longsword, and in case your first room is warrior.

most boss is better off to keep a distance from them.

[Youmu]

it is pretty clear, using fire staff then you can save 1 spot, where using catalytic staff, you can hit slightly above average. here is a link to refer to Catalytic Staff

it is better to bind arrow, since runes is easy to rc, but i cant rc death runes, argh.... wanted to up rc, but too slow and hard.

 

actually i thought of 1 thing, bind a melee weapon with good slash attack (i recommand battleaxe), staff that you like and fractite arrow.

the purpose is that you will start off with Spinebeam short/long bow at the start, so i would rather reenter the dungeon to get the longbow rather then bind it.

ranged is about the same style as stab, magic to armored warrior, combine with battleaxe that same speed with longsword, and in case your first room is warrior.

most boss is better off to keep a distance from them.

I never start with spinebeam short/long though... only like blood spindle at max. <_<

 

I'll bind the catalytic staff then, since there should be plenty of cash for me to buy essence.

 

And ranged definitely isn't the same as stab, last time I checked.

[sees_all1]

Runes are a pretty common drop anyway... given a little time and effort, and a RC level higher than 44, you have unlimited GP in the dungeon (as long as you have 1 rune ess, or 50 gp).

Its faster to get 125 ess than it is to get 125 fractite arrows, I bound those. I never get a splinebeam bow starting out, and its impossible to obtain in dungeon, so I bound that. I also bound a fractite battleaxe for its strength training (both slash and crush).

 

I might bind a catalytic staff and destroy my battleaxe, since its impossible to obtain at the start.

[zhong881209]

oh, so ranged is not about the same as stab, O.o

what are you both saying, i ALWAYS get spinebeam bow (short or long) together with one low tier bow (2 types of bow), around 50 fractite arrow and around 40 low tier arrow (2 types of arrow) as my starter items on the table. maybe jagex did something on this, need high ranged lvl? not sure

 

I might bind a catalytic staff and destroy my battleaxe, since its impossible to obtain at the start.

all kind staff can be appear in your inventory if you start with C1, just restart few times to get the staff you want.

[Hajutze]

The stuff you get depends on your combat levels .. In other words the higher the ranged the better bows/ranged armor you'll get.

[zhong881209]

oh, then it mean that combat lvl between 80-89 is the best for now.

lol, before this i thought that everyone is getting about the same items from the start.

[greenmelf]

The stuff you get depends on your combat levels .. In other words the higher the ranged the better bows/ranged armor you'll get.

Not true.

I'm level 90 ranged and I don't always get a bow or arrows, and when I do it's usually like tier 1 stuff.

 

 

Recharging is 1 million gp or 100k and 6.5k tokens.

Not worth it.

[sees_all1]

The stuff you get depends on your combat levels .. In other words the higher the ranged the better bows/ranged armor you'll get.

 

I doubt this to be the case... my stats:

94 strength

66 attack

51 defense

88 magic

70 range

94 combat

 

When I start out, I usually get a tier 1 bow, with tier 3 (or lower) arrows, a tier 3 or lower weapon (usually daggers).

For armour, I rarely get anything other than tier 4 mage equipment (90% of the time its gloves, boots, OR helm, 9% of the time its bottom, 1% of the time its top).

 

For runes, I either get runes for binds or runes for some time of blast (death + air + some other elemental). I also usually get ~40-60 essence.

As far as food goes, I usually take everything tier 3 or above (less than 5 pieces).

For tools, I'll usually get a tier 1 hatchet or pick.

 

 

 

What do you guys get?

[zhong881209]

@Sonic

actually i started to wonder, did your starter items often contain fractite equipment?

did you notice that the few times we team, we get each other starter items on the table?

like fractice spear and kiteshield from you and spinebeam bow and fractite arrow from me.

 

For runes, I either get runes for binds or runes for some time of blast (death + air + some other elemental). I also usually get ~40-60 essence.

wow, i never get runes nor essence at the start.

my usual starter items is, all is 99% on the table where pickaxe and hatchet is 50%

2 bow (tier 5 and low tier)

2 arrow (tier 5 and low tier)

1 ranged armor (usually tier 3 top)

1 low tier weapon (tier1-3)

1 low tier pickaxe or hatchet. (tier1-3)

few each from all tier of food

 

after see sees_all1 stat and items, i thought is depend on the 2 higher stat of combat(strength and magic out of "melee,ranged,magic")

however, my ranged and magic is much more higher then melee, but i dont get any runes of essences, dont tell me it also consider RC lvl into it?

[Piu]

@Sees, Zhong, Sonic.

 

You get the best armour/weapons for all classes, including mage, range and melee. If you do Complexity 1.

 

You do complexity 1, bind items, leave, start in complexity 6.

[Pinkbullet3]

Meh, just open the first door and start killin' already. Screw what's on the table.

[ilovecuttingyews]

Meh, just open the first door and start killin' already. Screw what's on the table.

All I bother with on the tables is gathering enough stuff so I can get ~1k to get tinderbox, hammer, pick, hatchet, fishing rod, and feathers. Then I get to killing!

[sees_all1]

@Sees, Zhong, Sonic.

 

You get the best armour/weapons for all classes, including mage, range and melee. If you do Complexity 1.

 

You do complexity 1, bind items, leave, start in complexity 6.

 

I know that... I was talking about the general starts...

 

Usually the first couple monsters you kill drop enough gp's to get the tier 3 hatchet, pickaxe... and the hammer and the tinderbox. I usually skip the fishing rod and feathers because its rarely used (and when it is, I'm pretty ticked off).

gotta love the gatestone tele. Its saved my butt several times, as well as speeds this up x2. :D

[Youmu]

@Sonic

actually i started to wonder, did your starter items often contain fractite equipment?

did you notice that the few times we team, we get each other starter items on the table?

like fractice spear and kiteshield from you and spinebeam bow and fractite arrow from me.

Yes, my table ALWAYS contain some fractite items.

 

I'm guessing the items on the table is based off your dominant combat stat. Since my dominant combat stat is melee, I get melee items.

[zhong881209]

@Sees, Zhong, Sonic.

 

You get the best armour/weapons for all classes, including mage, range and melee. If you do Complexity 1.

 

You do complexity 1, bind items, leave, start in complexity 6.

i didnt get best equipment from the start if do C1, i get tier 3 melee armor. i forget about the mage armor, but it is not the best either.

[Youmu]

i didnt get best equipment from the start if do C1, i get tier 3 melee armor. i forget about the mage armor, but it is not the best either.

Try complexity 2, I always get tier 5 items from all points of the combat triangle from there.