3rd Age/Spirit shields/Phats Discussion

[Lugia_Lvl138]

So some recent trends I've seen:

 

Higher phats dropping relative to lower phats. In particular blue has lost a lot of ground.

 

Pumpkins, Disks falling

 

Onyx rings, battle robes falling

 

Elysian and Divine gaining ground on phats

 

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What are possible implications for these?

 

So what's a Blue worth now? Most sellers on the forums want at least 2 Whites, something like 2 Whites + Green/Red or x Pumpkins. Doesn't seem like Blues dropped that much.

[yuriqiu]

So some recent trends I've seen:

 

Higher phats dropping relative to lower phats. In particular blue has lost a lot of ground.

 

Pumpkins, Disks falling

 

Onyx rings, battle robes falling

 

Elysian and Divine gaining ground on phats

 

--

 

What are possible implications for these?

 

Nothing? Also, is Divine higher than yellow? Because I'm seeing more yellow for divine offers than before....

If Divine > Yellow now then I must have been living under a rock. Last I checked Yellow > Divine > Purple. I'll have to go ask a few friends of mine to know what's going on better though.

[Star_Fox]

So some recent trends I've seen:

 

Higher phats dropping relative to lower phats. In particular blue has lost a lot of ground.

 

Pumpkins, Disks falling

 

Onyx rings, battle robes falling

 

Elysian and Divine gaining ground on phats

 

--

 

What are possible implications for these?

 

Nothing? Also, is Divine higher than yellow? Because I'm seeing more yellow for divine offers than before....

If Divine > Yellow now then I must have been living under a rock. Last I checked Yellow > Divine > Purple. I'll have to go ask a few friends of mine to know what's going on better though.

 

I know that. I'm just saying that more people are trading in thier yellow partyhats for divine + offers...This leads me to speculate that Divines might be higher atm. but im not 100% sure.

[yuriqiu]

So some recent trends I've seen:

 

Higher phats dropping relative to lower phats. In particular blue has lost a lot of ground.

 

Pumpkins, Disks falling

 

Onyx rings, battle robes falling

 

Elysian and Divine gaining ground on phats

 

--

 

What are possible implications for these?

 

Nothing? Also, is Divine higher than yellow? Because I'm seeing more yellow for divine offers than before....

If Divine > Yellow now then I must have been living under a rock. Last I checked Yellow > Divine > Purple. I'll have to go ask a few friends of mine to know what's going on better though.

 

I know that. I'm just saying that more people are trading in thier yellow partyhats for divine + offers...This leads me to speculate that Divines might be higher atm. but im not 100% sure.

Street price market seems to be in shambles right now. With the loss of crowns and onyx, the fact that pump and disk are very close to losing all their steet value, and the lack of other items to fill in those spots, there is no transition items as there have always been since the original rare buyout. My guess is we'll have to see where everything settles after the class 4 clue update to see where everything will eventually settle.

[Star_Fox]

^^ With the lvl 4 clue scrolls, this would probably be an excellent opportunity to establish a whole brand

of currency to buy partyhats. Just like the 3rd age era, level 4 clues would repeat the exact same case

and merchants would trade the new clue scroll items for a high price, like in 2008.

[Logdotzip]

Would you say with the recent update it's become easier or harder to purchase a divine? Like has their value gone up, or gone down? Naturally this is assuming nothing of the new TT update coming.

[Triquos]

No game update today, for those hoping for the TT update

 

Quote from Mod Emilee:

 

Hi,

 

Just to let you know (and to allow you to resume normal gameplay without having to keep hitting the refresh button!), the game update is not being launched today. Don't worry, we will be having a game update this week, it's just not quite ready yet!

 

QFC: 16-17-574-61378985

[Star_Fox]

No game update today, for those hoping for the TT update

 

Quote from Mod Emilee:

 

Hi,

 

Just to let you know (and to allow you to resume normal gameplay without having to keep hitting the refresh button!), the game update is not being launched today. Don't worry, we will be having a game update this week, it's just not quite ready yet!

 

QFC: 16-17-574-61378985

 

 

Good thing they weren't in a rush to release it. God knows a glitch could happen in such manner.

[Bassy]

Just bought a Hexcrest and Focus sight for 1.2m total. If you haven't filled your Slayer helm fully yet, now would be a good time with the merch crashing hard. :shades:

[yuriqiu]

Would you say with the recent update it's become easier or harder to purchase a divine? Like has their value gone up, or gone down? Naturally this is assuming nothing of the new TT update coming.

Impossible to say. Because atm there is no medium item for a trade from divine to phat, a divine is either = to yellow or = to purple. Which means, those who only have a divine and want to convert it into a phat can, depending on luck, either lose a huge amount of purchase power or gain a huge amount of purchase power. My belief is that Divine is still between a yellow and a purple, and that the new 3a items will fill in as the new medium item for these trades to go through. Then we can actually get a better read on how much a phat/divine actually cost.

[stonewall337]

Would you say with the recent update it's become easier or harder to purchase a divine? Like has their value gone up, or gone down? Naturally this is assuming nothing of the new TT update coming.

Impossible to say. Because atm there is no medium item for a trade from divine to phat, a divine is either = to yellow or = to purple. Which means, those who only have a divine and want to convert it into a phat can, depending on luck, either lose a huge amount of purchase power or gain a huge amount of purchase power. My belief is that Divine is still between a yellow and a purple, and that the new 3a items will fill in as the new medium item for these trades to go through. Then we can actually get a better read on how much a phat/divine actually cost.

 

Used to be A/W was yellow. Now its green, it seems.

 

reverse that. Was green, now its yellow.

[glasscube]

So I need an opinion here. Should I sell the green mask I bought or keep it? How long until we start seeing these items recover?

[Star_Fox]

Would you say with the recent update it's become easier or harder to purchase a divine? Like has their value gone up, or gone down? Naturally this is assuming nothing of the new TT update coming.

Impossible to say. Because atm there is no medium item for a trade from divine to phat, a divine is either = to yellow or = to purple. Which means, those who only have a divine and want to convert it into a phat can, depending on luck, either lose a huge amount of purchase power or gain a huge amount of purchase power. My belief is that Divine is still between a yellow and a purple, and that the new 3a items will fill in as the new medium item for these trades to go through. Then we can actually get a better read on how much a phat/divine actually cost.

 

Used to be A/W was yellow. Now its green, it seems.

 

reverse that. Was green, now its yellow.

 

 

Divines definitely above yellow now. I'm not positive if it'll make it to green or just hopelessly plummet down below yellow again.

Of these two possible outcomes, I would say the second would be the most likely. People are building up street prices by sniping

sigils and is becoming well known among merchants so its no surprise.

[Aiel]

was 5m for a battle robe top a good deal?

addy arrows p++ was the junk.

[Bladewing]

Probably, but I'm not sure battle robes have lost like half their street since crowns crashed.

[Aiel]

what about bottom with crown for 2m junk 4.5m cash?

edit: crown sold overnight in the GE for med. I essentially just got a battle robe bottom for 2m junk :D

[i_D_r]

Since no one answered me last time, I'll ask again:

 

You put an offer in for divine at the current max (let's say 550,000,000) right at update.

Ge updates again. Divine falls a few hundred gp. Your offer is now out of the price range, but you leave it in.

Ge updates again. Divine raises 10k.

You are back in the range.

 

Is your offer still any good? Or do people that put in the new max have precedence? Does the fact it's a CS item make a difference?

[yuriqiu]

Would you say with the recent update it's become easier or harder to purchase a divine? Like has their value gone up, or gone down? Naturally this is assuming nothing of the new TT update coming.

Impossible to say. Because atm there is no medium item for a trade from divine to phat, a divine is either = to yellow or = to purple. Which means, those who only have a divine and want to convert it into a phat can, depending on luck, either lose a huge amount of purchase power or gain a huge amount of purchase power. My belief is that Divine is still between a yellow and a purple, and that the new 3a items will fill in as the new medium item for these trades to go through. Then we can actually get a better read on how much a phat/divine actually cost.

 

Used to be A/W was yellow. Now its green, it seems.

 

reverse that. Was green, now its yellow.

 

Divines definitely above yellow now. I'm not positive if it'll make it to green or just hopelessly plummet down below yellow again.

Of these two possible outcomes, I would say the second would be the most likely. People are building up street prices by sniping

sigils and is becoming well known among merchants so its no surprise.

 

Hmm I can't seem to find any accurate info on divines atm. Is this divine > yellow caused by a phats crash or divine rise?

[mujammil]

Since no one answered me last time, I'll ask again:

 

You put an offer in for divine at the current max (let's say 550,000,000) right at update.

Ge updates again. Divine falls a few hundred gp. Your offer is now out of the price range, but you leave it in.

Ge updates again. Divine raises 10k.

You are back in the range.

 

Is your offer still any good? Or do people that put in the new max have precedence? Does the fact it's a CS item make a difference?

 

See it this wayy. You put offer in for max for a divine sigil, g.e updates the sigil loses a few hundred gp value. Now you have a timerglass on your sigil offer. Your offer for the sigil is valid so long as you have that timerglass on. Once the timerglass gets removed, you have to abort your offer as other max offers will preceed yours.

[Logdotzip]

Does the street price for Partyhats follow the GE price in terms of succession? Like is people worth less then yellow less than green etc. on street as well?

[Logdotzip]

Sorry I can't findthe edit button lol, I meant partyhats not people

 

 

I am kind of high on vicodin because I [bleep]ed up my back rec3ently

[yuriqiu]

Blue -huge gap- White -Big gap- Red -gap- Green -Small Gap- Yellow -Gap- Purple

 

The difference between green and yellow is miniscule, but the difference between Blue and White is enormous. Once you get to the higher phats because of the low supply its pretty much a seller market and you're pretty much at the mercy of whoever is selling a phat. Only sure street prices are honestly green and below.

[Star_Fox]

Blue -huge gap- White -Big gap- Red -gap- Green -Small Gap- Yellow -Gap- Purple

 

The difference between green and yellow is miniscule, but the difference between Blue and White is enormous. Once you get to the higher phats because of the low supply its pretty much a seller market and you're pretty much at the mercy of whoever is selling a phat. Only sure street prices are honestly green and below.

 

Acutally the gap between purple and yellow is comparable to yellow and green. The difference between purp and yellow would be about 1.5-2 pumpkins

The same goes with yellow + 1.5-2 pumpkins which is about green. Adding 2 pumpkins is a decent offer for red but might be a bit larger

when adding more risings.

 

I checked the market again and seems like divine is going for yellow + cash again.

[yuriqiu]

Blue -huge gap- White -Big gap- Red -gap- Green -Small Gap- Yellow -Gap- Purple

 

The difference between green and yellow is miniscule, but the difference between Blue and White is enormous. Once you get to the higher phats because of the low supply its pretty much a seller market and you're pretty much at the mercy of whoever is selling a phat. Only sure street prices are honestly green and below.

 

Acutally the gap between purple and yellow is comparable to yellow and green. The difference between purp and yellow would be about 1.5-2 pumpkins

The same goes with yellow + 1.5-2 pumpkins which is about green. Adding 2 pumpkins is a decent offer for red but might be a bit larger

when adding more risings.

 

I checked the market again and seems like divine is going for yellow + cash again.

Could this yellow = divine be caused by anticipation for the new clues? Before the last phat buyout most merchants were invested in 3a, could there be an anticipation amongst the rs population that these level 4 clue rewards could serve the same purpose and possibly replace phats?

 

My personal belief is that they will not be able to replace phat. The rs economy 2 years ago compared to now is vastly different. Whereas back then a 100m bank would put you in the company of a rich player, now your bank needs to be worth at least 1.5-2bil to be in the same category. Assuming phat price is related to the wealth of the average rich player and holds a certain ratio, phats now are vastly underpriced and has a real price possibly 3-5x of their actual ge value.

[Bladewing]

I hope they cause phats to crash. I'd love to pick up a blue for cash lol.