Obtaurian Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 frost dragons are 3m-4m an hour (maybe more) if you do it right. I've never heard of bandos being that good. Bandos has been around 4m/h for quite awhile now. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lol000999 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Your logic is this: I'm a higher level, I don't need to wait, I spent so many hours afk AZs! I spent my time training, now I want that time back by getting an empty world, where you have to spend 3 hours hopping just to get one kill, then someone else hops and takes your world. In reality, if you're not a high level, you're stuck. And yes if they were there first, then I believe it is common curteosy to hop. You don't know how long they've been searching for a world, you spent 5 minutes? And effeciency? If you want to be effecient stop posting on the forums and go no life more. The general rule for effiency = More effienct = Less fun.You play a game for fun, not to ruin the hopes of other people, they may not want to afk AZs all day and actually play the game how they want, however there's an obstacle, you. It is like cutting in a queue because it's more effecient and cut the moral posturing, it doesn't make it right, you may be able to, but remember the consequences, that 17mil drop you stole although nice for you 1billion worth bank, could of helped someone else actually get a decent amount of money. All you're really proving is that although you have access to more areas to get your money you choose to harass other players, I'm sure you can solo Armadyl with your stats, it's empty, it's however a little too much for some level 110s, but perfect for you 'elite' level 138s. And the turn theory, the 110s get 3 kills you come along, scram them off, why can't they go to another world and say they had their turn getting 20 kills, they want a drop? Just my thoughts, not flaming or trying to troll, or personally attacking anyone, I don't boss hunt, because of crashing, I choose the lower money makers, due to higher levels making it hell for the medium players, you said it yourself you would hate to be crashed. Put yourself in their position, then we talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasscube Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 It is like cutting in a queue because it's more effecient and cut the moral posturing, it doesn't make it right, you may be able to, but remember the consequences, that 17mil drop you stole although nice for you 1billion worth bank, could of helped someone else actually get a decent amount of money. Great idea, lets make a queue for Bandos, that will solve all the problems perfectly. Help drive change Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncient Posted August 18, 2010 Author Share Posted August 18, 2010 If you want to be effecient stop posting on the forums and go no life more.Just my thoughts, not flaming or trying to troll, or personally attacking anyone Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Your logic is this: I'm a higher level, I don't need to wait, I spent so many hours afk AZs! I spent my time training, now I want that time back by getting an empty world, where you have to spend 3 hours hopping just to get one kill, then someone else hops and takes your world. In reality, if you're not a high level, you're stuck. And yes if they were there first, then I believe it is common curteosy to hop. You don't know how long they've been searching for a world, you spent 5 minutes? And effeciency? If you want to be effecient stop posting on the forums and go no life more. The general rule for effiency = More effienct = Less fun.You play a game for fun, not to ruin the hopes of other people, they may not want to afk AZs all day and actually play the game how they want, however there's an obstacle, you. It is like cutting in a queue because it's more effecient and cut the moral posturing, it doesn't make it right, you may be able to, but remember the consequences, that 17mil drop you stole although nice for you 1billion worth bank, could of helped someone else actually get a decent amount of money. All you're really proving is that although you have access to more areas to get your money you choose to harass other players, I'm sure you can solo Armadyl with your stats, it's empty, it's however a little too much for some level 110s, but perfect for you 'elite' level 138s. And the turn theory, the 110s get 3 kills you come along, scram them off, why can't they go to another world and say they had their turn getting 20 kills, they want a drop? Just my thoughts, not flaming or trying to troll, or personally attacking anyone, I don't boss hunt, because of crashing, I choose the lower money makers, due to higher levels making it hell for the medium players, you said it yourself you would hate to be crashed. Put yourself in their position, then we talk.well at bandos i u came across a 110 u'd be pretty lucky everyone thier 130+ for armadyl you need better gear and more time in the bossroom :P but yeh it is probably better money than bandos in the longrun but thiers a reason you cant find a world for bandos while armadyl is empty usually its because people enjoy getting kills fast and kllcount fast and bandos is easier to solo in general especcially with chaotic weapons. for tds they are getting more crowded but usually time to find an open world - i find them tedius myself lol and probably other people too just want quick fun at bandos. but the thing is at tds and arma its less efficient to crash somebodyat tds they swich prayer every 310 dmg anyway at armadyl ur most likely competing with someone that has 99 range too lol =p but at bandos its liek pure who does most damage also people dont do frost dragons as much because a visage is the only thing....that u can get its more like a better version of rcing all guarnateed no special drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwhale Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 It's not right at all, i always try to find an empty world because that's the proper thing to do. Even if it's a game, there is really no reason to be rude to people and try to spoil his/her fun. The fact that you think you are entiteled to crash someone is not good at all, you're not better then the rest, nor is anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasscube Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 It's not right at all, i always try to find an empty world because that's the proper thing to do. Even if it's a game, there is really no reason to be rude to people and try to spoil his/her fun. The fact that you think you are entiteled to crash someone is not good at all, you're not better then the rest, nor is anyone else.1) Some bosses you can world hop for 8 hours straight and not an empty world2) Actually yes, in this game 99 X IS better then 98 X. Someone should make a video of them world hopping at bandos trying to find a free world. Maybe then people would understand. Help drive change Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonewall337 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 It's not right at all, i always try to find an empty world because that's the proper thing to do. Even if it's a game, there is really no reason to be rude to people and try to spoil his/her fun. The fact that you think you are entiteled to crash someone is not good at all, you're not better then the rest, nor is anyone else.And, exactly, WHY is it wrong to crash? I still haven't heard a good argument other then "Its rude" which is bull crap. [hide=Drops]Araxxor Eye x1 Leg pieces x2GWD: 5000 Addy bar Steam B Staff x3 Z Spear x6 Sara. Hilt x2 Bandos Hilt x2 (LS, Solo)SS x6 (1 LS)Tormented Demons: Shard x6 Slice x5 Claws x9 Limbs x3DKS: Archer x21 Warrior x31 Berserker x30 Axe x51[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghjkl Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Yea this thread is getting repetitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncient Posted August 18, 2010 Author Share Posted August 18, 2010 Yea this thread is getting repetitive. +1 it probably should just get locked soon lol Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lol000999 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 If you want to be effecient stop posting on the forums and go no life more.Just my thoughts, not flaming or trying to troll, or personally attacking anyone As I said not attacking anyone, you speak about being effiecent and making the most out of your time, I was wondering what you was doing here, speaking it like it wasn't a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 If you want to be effecient stop posting on the forums and go no life more.Just my thoughts, not flaming or trying to troll, or personally attacking anyone As I said not attacking anyone, you speak about being effiecent and making the most out of your time, I was wondering what you was doing here, speaking it like it wasn't a bad thing. Your original post was an attack on anyone who crashes, actually. I agree that this thread is getting REALLY repetitive. Sseli, you should go through all the posts, find all of the arguments against crashing and all of the best rebuttals to those arguments, then post them in the OP so people wont keep saying "u should just be nice!11" and "why dont u just hop!1!". To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lugia_Lvl138 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Ok, first I hear "Solo Bandos is horrible money due to slow respawns and getting crashed." Now I'm hearing "Solo Bandos is better than Frost Drags." I can kill about 3 Frost Drags per minute. With solo Bandos it's the reverse, something like 1 kill every 3 minutes factoring in bank/kc/crash time. 4x Phat owner: Blue, Green, 2x Purple 3100+ GWD bosses soloed.Solo GWD Drops:5 Bandos Plates, 4 Bandos Boots, 3 Bandos Hilts, 2 Arma Helms, Arma Skirt, Arma Plate, 3 Arma Hilts, 4 Zammy Spears, Steam Staff, 15 Sara Swords, 6 Sara Hilts, 29 Shards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Ok, first I hear "Solo Bandos is horrible money due to slow respawns and getting crashed." Now I'm hearing "Solo Bandos is better than Frost Drags." I can kill about 3 Frost Drags per minute. With solo Bandos it's the reverse, something like 1 kill every 3 minutes factoring in bank/kc/crash time. Well I think it's more that, in ideal conditions, solo Bandos could be better. ;) To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lugia_Lvl138 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Ok, first I hear "Solo Bandos is horrible money due to slow respawns and getting crashed." Now I'm hearing "Solo Bandos is better than Frost Drags." I can kill about 3 Frost Drags per minute. With solo Bandos it's the reverse, something like 1 kill every 3 minutes factoring in bank/kc/crash time. Well I think it's more that, in ideal conditions, solo Bandos could be better. ;) Except for the fact that said "ideal conditions" require either risking Claws or CLS, as well as things like Fighter Hat and Fire Cape. Anything less will probably end up with you getting crashed by someone with all of that. I take Excalibur as a spec wep for solo Bandos. 4x Phat owner: Blue, Green, 2x Purple 3100+ GWD bosses soloed.Solo GWD Drops:5 Bandos Plates, 4 Bandos Boots, 3 Bandos Hilts, 2 Arma Helms, Arma Skirt, Arma Plate, 3 Arma Hilts, 4 Zammy Spears, Steam Staff, 15 Sara Swords, 6 Sara Hilts, 29 Shards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghjkl Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Generally bandos with steel titan is 24 kills/hr including banking, with summ potions and overloading/turmoiling kc. I don't know if that's better than yak as I don't do yak trips anymore because I cbf staying in the room for 2 hours at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Generally bandos with steel titan is 24 kills/hr including banking, with summ potions and overloading/turmoiling kc. I don't know if that's better than yak as I don't do yak trips anymore because I cbf staying in the room for 2 hours at a time. That's interesting. I think I remember Sxq posting a video of that a LONG time ago. I assume you have the titan attacking Graar, right? I know at Arma, the minions drop food really often. EDIT: Except for the fact that said "ideal conditions" require either risking Claws or CLS, as well as things like Fighter Hat and Fire Cape. Anything less will probably end up with you getting crashed by someone with all of that. I take Excalibur as a spec wep for solo Bandos. Well, ideally you wouldn't be crashed, but we all know that wont be possible till new bosses are released. It's like there was a relatively short period of time where solo Bandos was great, then suddenly EVERYONE wanted to do it, and everyone is STILL trying to do it, even though TDs and DKs are actually better money. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlordjl Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I ended up on the receiving end up a "fun crasher" earlier today at TDs. I was there trioing, and this soloer comes along and even though we weren't bothering his spawns at all, and without any provocation he decides to start attacking our spawns. He was using a Chaotic Maul and Hand Cannon, with Dragon Halberd specs. Sadly, he ended up getting about half of the kills because the RNG favored him with multiple 650+ hits, so I lured all the demons in the area to him and then my team and I teleported. :twisted: I hope he died. Such a fate is deserving of everybody who crashes purely for lulz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I ended up on the receiving end up a "fun crasher" earlier today at TDs. I was there trioing, and this soloer comes along and even though we weren't bothering his spawns at all, and without any provocation he decides to start attacking our spawns. He was using a Chaotic Maul and Hand Cannon, with Dragon Halberd specs. Sadly, he ended up getting about half of the kills because the RNG favored him with multiple 650+ hits, so I lured all the demons in the area to him and then my team and I teleported. :twisted: I hope he died. Such a fate is deserving of everybody who crashes purely for lulz. And that was on a LS world? Wow, he had some balls to crash a trio (I'm assuming you were each using a different combat style with extremes and maxed gear?). I know you said the RNG favored him, but was there anything else he was doing could've contributed? Was he using a steel titan and overloads? To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncient Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 I ended up on the receiving end up a "fun crasher" earlier today at TDs. I was there trioing, and this soloer comes along and even though we weren't bothering his spawns at all, and without any provocation he decides to start attacking our spawns. He was using a Chaotic Maul and Hand Cannon, with Dragon Halberd specs. Sadly, he ended up getting about half of the kills because the RNG favored him with multiple 650+ hits, so I lured all the demons in the area to him and then my team and I teleported. :twisted: I hope he died. Such a fate is deserving of everybody who crashes purely for lulz. And that was on a LS world? Wow, he had some balls to crash a trio (I'm assuming you were each using a different combat style with extremes and maxed gear?). I know you said the RNG favored him, but was there anything else he was doing could've contributed? Was he using a steel titan and overloads? Td crashing is all about anticipating the TD's prayer switches. as long as you can hit above 300 often you can crash pretty well Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsboutin2 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 The way I see it, if you can crash my spot, so be it. However, I'll crash others' whenever necessary and possible. Since I'm pretty low-leveled, that would be faster clicking on slay monsters, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlordjl Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I ended up on the receiving end up a "fun crasher" earlier today at TDs. I was there trioing, and this soloer comes along and even though we weren't bothering his spawns at all, and without any provocation he decides to start attacking our spawns. He was using a Chaotic Maul and Hand Cannon, with Dragon Halberd specs. Sadly, he ended up getting about half of the kills because the RNG favored him with multiple 650+ hits, so I lured all the demons in the area to him and then my team and I teleported. :twisted: I hope he died. Such a fate is deserving of everybody who crashes purely for lulz. And that was on a LS world? Wow, he had some balls to crash a trio (I'm assuming you were each using a different combat style with extremes and maxed gear?). I know you said the RNG favored him, but was there anything else he was doing could've contributed? Was he using a steel titan and overloads? Td crashing is all about anticipating the TD's prayer switches. as long as you can hit above 300 often you can crash pretty well It was two range/melee hybs (me and another guy) and a dedicated mage. The guy who crashed was using a pony and extremes + turm. He was obviously quite experienced at TDs, as his switches were much better than ours, which was probably the reason why he won on several kills. Kudos for him for being more skilled than we were, but crashing a trio when they weren't bothering your spot at all is still a [bleep] move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I ended up on the receiving end up a "fun crasher" earlier today at TDs. I was there trioing, and this soloer comes along and even though we weren't bothering his spawns at all, and without any provocation he decides to start attacking our spawns. He was using a Chaotic Maul and Hand Cannon, with Dragon Halberd specs. Sadly, he ended up getting about half of the kills because the RNG favored him with multiple 650+ hits, so I lured all the demons in the area to him and then my team and I teleported. :twisted: I hope he died. Such a fate is deserving of everybody who crashes purely for lulz. And that was on a LS world? Wow, he had some balls to crash a trio (I'm assuming you were each using a different combat style with extremes and maxed gear?). I know you said the RNG favored him, but was there anything else he was doing could've contributed? Was he using a steel titan and overloads? Td crashing is all about anticipating the TD's prayer switches. as long as you can hit above 300 often you can crash pretty well It was two range/melee hybs (me and another guy) and a dedicated mage. The guy who crashed was using a pony and extremes + turm. He was obviously quite experienced at TDs, as his switches were much better than ours, which was probably the reason why he won on several kills. Kudos for him for being more skilled than we were, but crashing a trio when they weren't bothering your spot at all is still a [bleep] move. That's pretty crazy. Yeah, crashing a LS world is pretty unnecessary, especially at TDs. I'm absolutely positive that someone is going to jump on this and say "oh look the high levels who love crashing are complaining about being crashed! HYPOCRITES!" When crashing TDs or DKs (and even Bandos if you tele out while tanking Graar), you accept the possibility that the person you're crashing will attempt to get you killed. This is why crashing Bandos is so much more common than anywhere else. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlordjl Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I ended up on the receiving end up a "fun crasher" earlier today at TDs. I was there trioing, and this soloer comes along and even though we weren't bothering his spawns at all, and without any provocation he decides to start attacking our spawns. He was using a Chaotic Maul and Hand Cannon, with Dragon Halberd specs. Sadly, he ended up getting about half of the kills because the RNG favored him with multiple 650+ hits, so I lured all the demons in the area to him and then my team and I teleported. :twisted: I hope he died. Such a fate is deserving of everybody who crashes purely for lulz. And that was on a LS world? Wow, he had some balls to crash a trio (I'm assuming you were each using a different combat style with extremes and maxed gear?). I know you said the RNG favored him, but was there anything else he was doing could've contributed? Was he using a steel titan and overloads? Td crashing is all about anticipating the TD's prayer switches. as long as you can hit above 300 often you can crash pretty well It was two range/melee hybs (me and another guy) and a dedicated mage. The guy who crashed was using a pony and extremes + turm. He was obviously quite experienced at TDs, as his switches were much better than ours, which was probably the reason why he won on several kills. Kudos for him for being more skilled than we were, but crashing a trio when they weren't bothering your spot at all is still a [bleep] move. That's pretty crazy. Yeah, crashing a LS world is pretty unnecessary, especially at TDs. I'm absolutely positive that someone is going to jump on this and say "oh look the high levels who love crashing are complaining about being crashed! HYPOCRITES!" When crashing TDs or DKs (and even Bandos if you tele out while tanking Graar), you accept the possibility that the person you're crashing will attempt to get you killed. This is why crashing Bandos is so much more common than anywhere else.Also, TDs are the most pointless boss to crash. There's very little to gain and a whole lot to lose by crashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I ended up on the receiving end up a "fun crasher" earlier today at TDs. I was there trioing, and this soloer comes along and even though we weren't bothering his spawns at all, and without any provocation he decides to start attacking our spawns. He was using a Chaotic Maul and Hand Cannon, with Dragon Halberd specs. Sadly, he ended up getting about half of the kills because the RNG favored him with multiple 650+ hits, so I lured all the demons in the area to him and then my team and I teleported. :twisted: I hope he died. Such a fate is deserving of everybody who crashes purely for lulz. And that was on a LS world? Wow, he had some balls to crash a trio (I'm assuming you were each using a different combat style with extremes and maxed gear?). I know you said the RNG favored him, but was there anything else he was doing could've contributed? Was he using a steel titan and overloads? Td crashing is all about anticipating the TD's prayer switches. as long as you can hit above 300 often you can crash pretty well It was two range/melee hybs (me and another guy) and a dedicated mage. The guy who crashed was using a pony and extremes + turm. He was obviously quite experienced at TDs, as his switches were much better than ours, which was probably the reason why he won on several kills. Kudos for him for being more skilled than we were, but crashing a trio when they weren't bothering your spot at all is still a [bleep] move. That's pretty crazy. Yeah, crashing a LS world is pretty unnecessary, especially at TDs. I'm absolutely positive that someone is going to jump on this and say "oh look the high levels who love crashing are complaining about being crashed! HYPOCRITES!" When crashing TDs or DKs (and even Bandos if you tele out while tanking Graar), you accept the possibility that the person you're crashing will attempt to get you killed. This is why crashing Bandos is so much more common than anywhere else.Also, TDs are the most pointless boss to crash. There's very little to gain and a whole lot to lose by crashing.agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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