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The find another world argument would be like saying find another job. And my response to that would basically be "U mad?"

 

Nah, i'd say it's more like saying "get demoted"

Because you aren't changing what you do, you're just settling for a lower position (if you actually did hop)

 

Finding another job would be to go to another boss/monster

 

[/smartassing]

 

Actually, it's more like going to a public park and chasing people away from the picnic table you prefer because you have the arrogance & the muscle. It's sociopathic and indefensible in either case, but people will do whatever they can get away with.

 

People don't make a living sitting at picnic benches, FYI. Your analogy is terrible.


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The find another world argument would be like saying find another job. And my response to that would basically be "U mad?"

 

Nah, i'd say it's more like saying "get demoted"

Because you aren't changing what you do, you're just settling for a lower position (if you actually did hop)

 

Finding another job would be to go to another boss/monster

 

[/smartassing]

 

Actually, it's more like going to a public park and chasing people away from the picnic table you prefer because you have the arrogance & the muscle. It's sociopathic and indefensible in either case, but people will do whatever they can get away with.

 

People don't make a living sitting at picnic benches, FYI. Your analogy is terrible.

 

As opposed to claiming Runescape is like a job or a career? :lol: But I will consider your criticism and offer a more apt example:

 

It's like going to an amusement park - where everyone pays admission - and then elbowing your way to the front of the queue for popular rides and riding them again and again and again...

 

Ill-mannered, inconsiderate, sociopathic - I stand by every adjective.


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It's like going to an amusement park - where everyone pays admission - and then elbowing your way to the front of the queue for popular rides and riding them again and again and again...

 

Ill-mannered, inconsiderate, sociopathic - I stand by every adjective.

No, it's like winning an auction because you have a higher bid. It's like winning the pink teddy bear because you popped the balloon before the other guy. It's like applying for a job and getting the position because you're better-qualified than the other applicants.

 

We can play the analogy game all day long.

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I'm really sick of this thread. This entire page is an exact copy of pretty much every page before it.

 

"Crashing is sociopathic (Obtaurian's note: anyone who claims that crashing is akin sociopathic behavior needs to take an introductory psychology course)."

"No, it's necessary due to the limited number of non-LS worlds, abundance of competition, and the lack of variety in boss monsters."

"WELL YOU'RE JUST A MEANIE [email protected]@"

 

And so on and so forth.


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Well if your going to crash then thats your own problem. No rules against it.

 

All crashing show is you have loss of character.

 

If someone crashes me or tries crashing I just hop, because its a GAME, and idc about being efficient and getting the most xp/hr. Some people play RS for enjoyment you know.


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All crashing show is you have loss of character.

 

No, it's necessary due to the limited number of non-LS worlds, abundance of competition, and the lack of variety in boss monsters.

 

Where does character come into play?


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Its like crashing someone in runescape.

 

In other words, [cabbage] happens.

Arrogant trolls should have over 1300+ total level.

 

OT: Crashing for a limited resource is fine. Crashing "for lols" is just stupid.


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But the question is... do you really want to be thought of in a similar light to the United States?

 

Yes.

 

Then keep doin' exactly what you're doin'.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I'm just saying that it's not my thing. If I'm slaying and the monster area is already supporting the maximum number of people, I'll hop, because I personally don't enjoy causing people frustration. I can see how the idea of overpowering and forcing someone's actions could be fun, so more power to you :D

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But the question is... do you really want to be thought of in a similar light to the United States?

 

Yes.

 

Then keep doin' exactly what you're doin'.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I'm just saying that it's not my thing. If I'm slaying and the monster area is already supporting the maximum number of people, I'll hop, because I personally don't enjoy causing people frustration. I can see how the idea of overpowering and forcing someone's actions could be fun, so more power to you :D

 

Crashing slayer spots is a bit different because not all of them are multi. You can't really crash anything in Kuradal's dungeon, so it's best to hop there. On the other hand, a level 110 slaying dust devils on a high population world is fair game. As stated multiple (read: a few thousand) times in this thread, crashing is not about fun - it's about efficiency.

 

As an aside, my response to your original question was facetious.


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But the question is... do you really want to be thought of in a similar light to the United States?

 

Yes.

 

Then keep doin' exactly what you're doin'.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I'm just saying that it's not my thing. If I'm slaying and the monster area is already supporting the maximum number of people, I'll hop, because I personally don't enjoy causing people frustration. I can see how the idea of overpowering and forcing someone's actions could be fun, so more power to you :D

most of the "proponents" for crashing generally aren't in strong support of crashing slayer spots, particularly in single combat lol.

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What I don't understand is that if a 110 could go RC or kill monsters for herbs, than why can't the level 138 go kill other monsters for herbs to.

 

Also by the logic of the first page of this thread, then the no life argument is reasonable.

 

I could say your a no-life for crashing me because you are level 138, with all the best gear you can buy, so most likely you've put over 150+ Days into RS minimum, most likely you're around 300-400 days.

Then I could go about and say go to your job/class room if you have either of those, and have everyone fill out this survey, with the following question. If I put over half a year to an entire year of my life in the past 6-10 years sitting in front of a computer screen playing an MMORPG, would you consider me a no life.

 

That uses the same logic as the 1st post of this thread.

 

I'm not trying to be mean, I myself have put 170+ days into RS, and not even close to 138CB. Im just stating the view of an irl Elitist.

 

Could make the argument though, that people with office jobs have stared at computer screens for almost 60% of their life. lol


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What I don't understand is that if a 110 could go RC or kill monsters for herbs, than why can't the level 138 go kill other monsters for herbs to.

 

Because the 138 has the capacity to make far better money elsewhere. :huh:

 

The rest of your post is an attempt at psychoanalysis that makes little sense. You completely missed the point of this thread.


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All that the first post of this thread, is simply his view of why he has the right to crash.

Limited Recourses, means that he has to fight off others to gain those recourses, and he will most likely succeed, because he is in an overall better position for the harvest the recourses, and therefore has the right to crash.

 

The truth is though the he does have the right to crash, because it isn't against the rules of the game. The level 110 also has the right to attempt to crash the 138.

 

Someone earlier in this thread who was pro-crashing mentioned an alternative that doesn't involve being crashed for the lower level.

 

Now, I'm trying to say maybe that person should listen to his own advice.

 

Most likely if you do crash someone they will put up some sort of resistance, and you'll still lose out on being perfectly efficient.

 

The thread owner also states how he doesn't crash people that are better than him, because they have the right to that spot. When in reality no-one has the right to that spot expect Jagex employees.


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I literally have no idea what you're trying to say.


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ima crash u when ur soloing skeletal horde boss

 

lol jk :D

 

anyway the reason people dont crash people equal or better than them is because it would be a waste of time if htey did...it would slow both people down but someone w/o overloads and w/o a chaotic weapon versus someone with thiers a clear advantage whos gunna get the kills lol.

 

i crash people at warped tortiose b4 i blocked em cuz only 2 and needed high pop world..........only hoppd if they were killing efficiently.


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All that the first post of this thread, is simply his view of why he has the right to crash.

Limited Recourses, means that he has to fight off others to gain those recourses, and he will most likely succeed, because he is in an overall better position for the harvest the recourses, and therefore has the right to crash.

 

The truth is though the he does have the right to crash, because it isn't against the rules of the game. The level 110 also has the right to attempt to crash the 138.

absolutely. i think that's one of the points that those against crashing have yet to consider: why, if crashing were not expected to be a factor in the game, would there be bosses in multicombat zones in non-ls worlds?

Someone earlier in this thread who was pro-crashing mentioned an alternative that doesn't involve being crashed for the lower level.

 

Now, I'm trying to say maybe that person should listen to his own advice.

 

could you clarify what you are referring to?

 

Most likely if you do crash someone they will put up some sort of resistance, and you'll still lose out on being perfectly efficient.

 

The thread owner also states how he doesn't crash people that are better than him, because they have the right to that spot. When in reality no-one has the right to that spot expect Jagex employees.

generally we are referring to "hot" areas like bandos. if a 138 crashes a 110, it means the 138 gets probably at least 90% of the kills, at roughly 25% more kills an hour, while using roughly 50% the supplies. other situations like tribrid dks there is really nothing a 110 soloing rex with fire wave can do to fight back besides shoot rex. the 138 is geared to kill all three dagannoths.

 

the reason the thread owner doesn't crash people better than him is because he cannot crash them and there is no logical reason to try to crash him. they don't have the right to that spot, but they can fight for it better than he can.

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It depends on levels too. A level 138 trying to crash another 138 is probably being an ass. A level 138 crashing a level 96 is probably trying to find a good world. Difference there.

 

And no matter how much "resistance" a lower level tries to put up at bandos, or DKS, I won't care. They'll be tanking more damage, and I've tanked all 3 kings anyway. They also won't be stealing any of my kills.

 

Its also more effective and efficient for a lower level to do things like herb runs for their herbs, since higher levels have higher stats (duh) and normally better gear.

 

The "scaring people away from picnic table" argument is absurd. Please don't make me tear it to pieces? There are so many differences.

 

A better example would be a library computer. The main difference there is a time limit, and in that case, first come first serve is NORMAL. Sometimes FCFS is accepted, and normal, otherplaces, its not. If I have an appointment, and you are a walk in, it doesn't matter if you were first. I go first. See the differences?


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I agree you earned the "right" with your hours of training, but my perspective is that common courtesy can be a good thing too. I don't tend to crush people just because I can.


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ima crash u when ur soloing skeletal horde boss

 

lol jk :D

 

anyway the reason people dont crash people equal or better than them is because it would be a waste of time if htey did...it would slow both people down but someone w/o overloads and w/o a chaotic weapon versus someone with thiers a clear advantage whos gunna get the kills lol.

 

i crash people at warped tortiose b4 i blocked em cuz only 2 and needed high pop world..........only hoppd if they were killing efficiently.

 

People sometimes try and crash me at warped torts, you would not believe how many times maxed players have hopped to me at 105 cb. In that case normally my faster 10/10 crystal bow with void and dark bow (spec) will out do anyone except people with chaotic. Especially with the low defense that torts have.


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a crystal bow and dark bow is beating whips? I'd love to see that.


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ima crash u when ur soloing skeletal horde boss

 

lol jk :D

 

anyway the reason people dont crash people equal or better than them is because it would be a waste of time if htey did...it would slow both people down but someone w/o overloads and w/o a chaotic weapon versus someone with thiers a clear advantage whos gunna get the kills lol.

 

i crash people at warped tortiose b4 i blocked em cuz only 2 and needed high pop world..........only hoppd if they were killing efficiently.

 

People sometimes try and crash me at warped torts, you would not believe how many times maxed players have hopped to me at 105 cb. In that case normally my faster 10/10 crystal bow with void and dark bow (spec) will out do anyone except people with chaotic. Especially with the low defense that torts have.

I call bull to this. I could beat you with a dscimmy. There is no way void range beats out whip DPS, even against low def monsters.


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I agree you earned the "right" with your hours of training, but my perspective is that common courtesy can be a good thing too. I don't tend to crush people just because I can.

There's nothing discourteous about crashing.

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Okay. Arguing in circles doesn't work.

 

Discussion; If no one crashed any worlds on RuneScape, what would happen? To the Economy, to the society, to PvM and to gameplay in general.

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