Dungeonsweepers (DGS) - Huge changes; read first post.

[Saradomin_Mage]

Previously in Daemonheim ...

too many messages inbetween deaths. Tui easily covers 8 deaths before i get hooded again.

That would be a sight ... and a goal to aim for, lulz.

Race to who-can-get-8-deaths-in-one-window !

[I_am_Not]

can't provide that much win i can however provide this

[pulli23]

On topic of the rewards:

 

Would "meat shield" (+beserker or something) maybe be a good reward? - It means a person takes a lot of initiative, which seems to become less and less common in this cc. (Really I'm seeing teams where people constantly wait till others engage monsters before entering doors - or even wait till all mages are gone so they won't get unhooded).

[Obtaurian]

On topic of the rewards:

 

Would "meat shield" (+beserker or something) maybe be a good reward? - It means a person takes a lot of initiative, which seems to become less and less common in this cc. (Really I'm seeing teams where people constantly wait till others engage monsters before entering doors - or even wait till all mages are gone so they won't get unhooded).

 

Well, getting berserker means taking initiative. But if you're seeing people who are chilling outside of GDs, report them to an admin. That's unacceptable.

[Saradomin_Mage]

On topic of the rewards:

 

Would "meat shield" (+beserker or something) maybe be a good reward? - It means a person takes a lot of initiative, which seems to become less and less common in this cc. (Really I'm seeing teams where people constantly wait till others engage monsters before entering doors - or even wait till all mages are gone so they won't get unhooded).

 

Well, getting berserker means taking initiative. But if you're seeing people who are chilling outside of GDs, report them to an admin. That's unacceptable.

What if they're rehooding?

[Obtaurian]

On topic of the rewards:

 

Would "meat shield" (+beserker or something) maybe be a good reward? - It means a person takes a lot of initiative, which seems to become less and less common in this cc. (Really I'm seeing teams where people constantly wait till others engage monsters before entering doors - or even wait till all mages are gone so they won't get unhooded).

 

Well, getting berserker means taking initiative. But if you're seeing people who are chilling outside of GDs, report them to an admin. That's unacceptable.

What if they're rehooding?

 

Touche.

 

(I wish I had my keyboard set to international so I could add the accent.)

[xpx]

On topic of the rewards:

 

Would "meat shield" (+beserker or something) maybe be a good reward? - It means a person takes a lot of initiative, which seems to become less and less common in this cc. (Really I'm seeing teams where people constantly wait till others engage monsters before entering doors - or even wait till all mages are gone so they won't get unhooded).

 

Well, getting berserker means taking initiative. But if you're seeing people who are chilling outside of GDs, report them to an admin. That's unacceptable.

Getting meat shield on purpose is the easiest thing in the world- never pray, don't use hood, waste everyones food and die as often as you can. Cheating to get berserker is much harder and good players never bother with those tricks anyway(obviously i'm not going to list them). Having to get both berserker and battle mage insures that people don't derp too much in dungeons(though i see alot of people maging stuff they shouldn't in hopes of getting battle-mage, but they almost always miss out on berserker).

[pulli23]

On topic of the rewards:

 

Would "meat shield" (+beserker or something) maybe be a good reward? - It means a person takes a lot of initiative, which seems to become less and less common in this cc. (Really I'm seeing teams where people constantly wait till others engage monsters before entering doors - or even wait till all mages are gone so they won't get unhooded).

 

Well, getting berserker means taking initiative. But if you're seeing people who are chilling outside of GDs, report them to an admin. That's unacceptable.

Getting meat shield on purpose is the easiest thing in the world- never pray, don't use hood, waste everyones food and die as often as you can. Cheating to get berserker is much harder and good players never bother with those tricks anyway(obviously i'm not going to list them). Having to get both berserker and battle mage insures that people don't derp too much in dungeons(though i see alot of people maging stuff they shouldn't in hopes of getting battle-mage, but they almost always miss out on berserker).

 

hmm might be true, but getting both beserker & meatshield? Well I guess people could "cheat" by sitting in far away rooms.... Though I without everyone focussing on getting a good time I doubt you'll get a good time anyways.

[Saradomin_Mage]

What is the obsession with scoring Berserker and Battlemage, anyway?

As a DPS player, you're in the dungeon to clear out, nay, annihilate monsters in Guardian rooms and wherever else the keyer requires. If someone beats you to Berserker/Battlemage, then maybe he's better at wanton destruction than you are, and you should be glad that people like this exist.

I used to take both every dungeon until I played with other people *coughxpx* , and I'm really happy that other people focus on destruction to an extent further than myself.

[Crossed_Body]

What is the obsession with scoring Berserker and Battlemage, anyway?

As a DPS player, you're in the dungeon to clear out, nay, annihilate monsters in Guardian rooms and wherever else the keyer requires. If someone beats you to Berserker/Battlemage, then maybe he's better at wanton destruction than you are, and you should be glad that people like this exist.

I used to take both every dungeon until I played with other people *coughxpx* , and I'm really happy that other people focus on destruction to an extent further than myself.

 

Destruction is awesome.

[pulli23]

What is the obsession with scoring Berserker and Battlemage, anyway?

As a DPS player, you're in the dungeon to clear out, nay, annihilate monsters in Guardian rooms and wherever else the keyer requires. If someone beats you to Berserker/Battlemage, then maybe he's better at wanton destruction than you are, and you should be glad that people like this exist.

I used to take both every dungeon until I played with other people *coughxpx* , and I'm really happy that other people focus on destruction to an extent further than myself.

I just want recognition for those who deserve it: and I think someone who takes the initiative is someone who deserves this!

[xpx]

What is the obsession with scoring Berserker and Battlemage, anyway?

As a DPS player, you're in the dungeon to clear out, nay, annihilate monsters in Guardian rooms and wherever else the keyer requires. If someone beats you to Berserker/Battlemage, then maybe he's better at wanton destruction than you are, and you should be glad that people like this exist.

I used to take both every dungeon until I played with other people *coughxpx* , and I'm really happy that other people focus on destruction to an extent further than myself.

I just want recognition for those who deserve it: and I think someone who takes the initiative is someone who deserves this!

Meat shield doesn't show initiative. In a perfect team a keyer should always get this plaque, and the dpsers should be smart enough to avoid all damage. Why do you think jagex doesn't think it's a completely positive title?

 

And in any case, berserker title shows initiative like no other, so that part is already covered.

[Mihaly]

I just don't like losing an extra 10% exp when I'm keying, if people are doing a gd and I'm ~120 lp. Does this make me suck? <_<

[DyingSilent]

It depends on the circumstances, IMO.

 

If you're nearly out of prayer, there is no altar on the map, suicide.

If you're low on hp, and nobody has food, suicide.

 

Dungeoneering for a few of us is more about having fun and doing dungeons, not about XP rates. I know along with myself...Jimi, Michael, and possibly Tui (she dies enough) feel the same way. I'm at the point where I do dungeons to teach people, get my floor times down, and just being challenged by the floors. Gaining XP and levels are on the back burner right now.

 

This goes to everyone in general:

Keyers: If one of your teammates has more than 4 food, they should leave food on the GGS if you're running low. DPSers: You should never need more than 4 food at any one point in time. I'm not saying leave food laying on the ground, by all means, take it (losslessly, ofcourse). But you should NEVER have a full inventory of food unless keying, or if the keyer has a full inventory of food. Even keying, you shouldn't have a full inventory of food, there's plenty of [cabbage] to run through.

[I_am_Not]

I'm positive i've gotten meat shield at least 95% of my floors, I've never keyed.

Probably 80% of my floors I get berserker unless im with gwyn who cheats just fyi

 

I don't see it as an achievement or any form of initiative to get both of those, I pray and have a hood.

[Sir_Squab]

On topic of the rewards:

 

Would "meat shield" (+beserker or something) maybe be a good reward? - It means a person takes a lot of initiative, which seems to become less and less common in this cc. (Really I'm seeing teams where people constantly wait till others engage monsters before entering doors - or even wait till all mages are gone so they won't get unhooded).

 

Well, getting berserker means taking initiative. But if you're seeing people who are chilling outside of GDs, report them to an admin. That's unacceptable.

What if they're rehooding?

 

Touche.

 

(I wish I had my keyboard set to international so I could add the accent.)

 

Alt 130. Touché. You need a numeric keypad to do it though.

[notasoupbowl]

Lol my average deaths is 2.4

I'm always like "bah cba to ht for altar" or "oh I want a free ht home *dies*"

and half my fls are like 3967397 angries

[Saradomin_Mage]

unless im with gwyn who cheats just fyi

WAT

 

So, I have proof of Grimy being an anti-rusher :

Pro team - Primal Plateskirt :)

 

me & friend

 

[Mihaly]

Thanks for the lessons I've learned, and the people Ive met. I had a great time in DGS even though it was short. :thumbsup:

 

And I'm sorry to say I'm leaving.

[Grimy_Bunyip]

So, I have proof of Grimy being an anti-rusher :

Pro team - Primal Plateskirt :)

 

me & friend

 

wuz like lvl 50 dg when i did dat =(

[Andy]

So, I have proof of Grimy being an anti-rusher :

Pro team - Primal Plateskirt :)

 

me & friend

 

wuz like lvl 50 dg when i did dat =(

Would have thought you had a spreadsheet on the most efficient setup by then. tut tut tut.

[green9090]

I don't actually tend to get berserker as a DPSer that often, despite having a battleaxe and laws bound and flashing turm all the time. This is because I tend to have to do a LOT of skill doors (2442 total ftw), and I try to keep track of the map and help run keys when I can and thus miss out on GDs fairly often. I don't see this as a bad thing. *shrug*

 

I am definitely a better keyer than I am a DPSer though. For some reason DPSing makes me derp.

[xpx]

I don't actually tend to get berserker as a DPSer that often, despite having a battleaxe and laws bound and flashing turm all the time. This is because I tend to have to do a LOT of skill doors (2442 total ftw), and I try to keep track of the map and help run keys when I can and thus miss out on GDs fairly often. I don't see this as a bad thing. *shrug*

 

I am definitely a better keyer than I am a DPSer though. For some reason DPSing makes me derp.

Well, i dps all the time with even higher stats and still get beserker alot more than 1/4 or 1/3(with a hex), unless i'm dging with tui, ofcource. I definitely get the double score most on the teams i'm in, too, so high total doesn't stop you from having good and great dps, really.

[Pluckey]

On topic of the rewards:

 

Would "meat shield" (+beserker or something) maybe be a good reward? - It means a person takes a lot of initiative, which seems to become less and less common in this cc. (Really I'm seeing teams where people constantly wait till others engage monsters before entering doors - or even wait till all mages are gone so they won't get unhooded).

 

Well, getting berserker means taking initiative. But if you're seeing people who are chilling outside of GDs, report them to an admin. That's unacceptable.

What if they're rehooding?

 

Touche.

 

(I wish I had my keyboard set to international so I could add the accent.)

 

 

 

Touché. (Linguistic keyboards are nice ja?)

[notasoupbowl]

Lol I don't even have hex