April 8, 201115 yr Although logical, this is all hypothetical. I don't have the spell. As far as I know, no one on these forums does either. Assumptions I am making!:-It is a "group" spell, so it affects a 3x3 radius from the caster. (Tested with my available "group" spells. Potion Share has a 5x5 range, like Wrath, but does not have "group" in its name.)-It is similar to Vengeance Other, so it does not count as being cast by the receiving player.--The receiving player can immediately afterwards cast a Vengeance spell themselves.-It is a Vengeance spell, so it has a 30 second cooldown time.--That it only activates if damage is actually received, like normal Vengeance, unlike the other new combat spell, Disruption Shield.-That it is like other "group" spells and grants Vengeance rather than harming those surrounding. (I think this is a given, simply put for comprehension!) A J-Mod has confirmed that it affects up to 50 targets at once.This means that if X number of players are within one square of the caster, 1 cast counts as X number of Vengeances (+1).We now assume that the players:-Have Vengeance Group unlocked.-Have accept aid on.-Are close together (above!).-Are all hit at ONCE. This is the only thing that I'm not extremely sure about. I haven't Nex'd, but from videos and etc, it seems her normal attacks are directed at everyone, as an example. Correct me if I'm wrong. Depending on the attack speed and targeting ability of the afflicting monster and the number of players matching the above criteria, Vengeance Group could result in Vengeance damage every turn, or unlimited Vengeance.^ "Mission statement" lol...I hope that someone who knows Nex's attack speed in seconds posts... In a practical sense however, Nex may hit far too hard with her normal everyone-targeting Magic attack for this to be viable there, as well as some of her stages making it ill-advised to stay close together or in one place.Examining other bosses, I feel that this method would be most useful at Armadyl God Wars Dungeon (maybe suffering from the same problem as above...), or perhaps any of the other 3. Minions might die before the boss itself does, although they could just be damaged and make "clean-up" after the boss easier.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdKRcWEgn_A wat
April 8, 201115 yr nex is immune to vengOther bosses are already limited moreso by their respawn rate, than by your ability to kill them.
April 8, 201115 yr A dude had group veng by the avatar in SW, he hitted probably about 265 on many many opponents, it was crazy powerful! For those who doesn't know, when you use the group vengeance spell, you are only given the blessing of vengeance, noone else around you. But at the next successful hit you recieve, 75% of the damage will rebound to up to 50 persons in a 9x9 square around you. My lame drops:6 Effigys1 D Med - 1 D Dagger1 Verac's Helmet - 1 Guthan's Platebody
April 8, 201115 yr Yeah, it DAMAGES up to 50 people, it doesn't cast it on 50 people. So...if you're getting piled you can cast it and deal a good portion of damage to everyone around you. You're probably going to die in that situation, so it's like an extra redemption. ~~~The Harpy List~~~Harpy Facts~~~It's Super Effective~~~The Beginning~~~Harpy Therapy Center~~~Alg~~~Jedi Harpy~~~Rohirrim~~~Attenuation~~~
April 8, 201115 yr So i was correct about this being vengeance group not group vengeance. Glad to hear, it's useless(for me anyway, and most of what people deal with every day). First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015.
April 8, 201115 yr As said it has its niche in clan battles and safe pvp, its godlike in soulwars! My lame drops:6 Effigys1 D Med - 1 D Dagger1 Verac's Helmet - 1 Guthan's Platebody
April 8, 201115 yr It's ridiculously powerful for multi pvp but that's just about it Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top
April 8, 201115 yr Worth getting since you want disruption shield anyway. My lame drops:6 Effigys1 D Med - 1 D Dagger1 Verac's Helmet - 1 Guthan's Platebody
April 8, 201115 yr Worth getting since you want disruption shield anyway.Correct be if i'm wrong but disruption shield basically doesn't at all work against claws(it would negate the first hit, but you can still do the same amount of damage if you hit on the 2nd or 3rd hit) so it's only KS and AGS which are really affected by this, and not everyone needs protection from those. It's useless against bosses. It would have been useful for dungeoneering(tanking high damaging special attacks) but unfortunately, it can't be used there. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015.
April 8, 201115 yr Claws is nullified by disruption shield. It's a good spell for pking. Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top
April 8, 201115 yr Worth getting since you want disruption shield anyway.Correct be if i'm wrong but disruption shield basically doesn't at all work against claws(it would negate the first hit, but you can still do the same amount of damage if you hit on the 2nd or 3rd hit) so it's only KS and AGS which are really affected by this, and not everyone needs protection from those. It's useless against bosses. It would have been useful for dungeoneering(tanking high damaging special attacks) but unfortunately, it can't be used there.well veng counts the claw spec as one hit, so its possible disruption shield negates the whole spec.
April 8, 201115 yr The spec is one hit, but it is a special one.. Me and the wise old man go way back.... he was a foolish boy back then. My crystal armour idea.
April 8, 201115 yr Being able to damage up to 50 targets = use boost pot share on dagganoth, get hit, veng, 2 minute dagganoth tasks? Though if it works in single combat, you could actually try that on Kuradal's steel dragons, letting your antifire run out? Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted
April 8, 201115 yr A dude had group veng by the avatar in SW, he hitted probably about 265 on many many opponents, it was crazy powerful! For those who doesn't know, when you use the group vengeance spell, you are only given the blessing of vengeance, noone else around you. But at the next successful hit you recieve, 75% of the damage will rebound to up to 50 persons in a 9x9 square around you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdKRcWEgn_A wat [hide=drops]10 black masks, 39 dragon boots, 21 whip, 9 dark bow, 7 dragon legs, 8 mauls, 3 dragon left half, 2 dragon spear, 2 hexcrest, 1 kbd heads, 10 dragon med, 2 R ammy, 2 granite legs, 1 bandos boots , 1 bandos hilt , 1 bandos chestplate, 1 saradomin sword(ls), 2 dragon claws(ls)(solo)[/hide][hide=Viralaether's guide to Mac use]1) take your mac2) drop it off your roof3) ??????4) Profit![/hide]1/7/9 quest cape ||| 5/6/9 all diaries ||| 7/14/9 300 rank MA ||| 4998th to 99 summoning on 2/27/10
April 8, 201115 yr A dude had group veng by the avatar in SW, he hitted probably about 265 on many many opponents, it was crazy powerful! For those who doesn't know, when you use the group vengeance spell, you are only given the blessing of vengeance, noone else around you. But at the next successful hit you recieve, 75% of the damage will rebound to up to 50 persons in a 9x9 square around you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdKRcWEgn_A wat Ok, thanks to that video I'm now confused. People are saying that group vengance hits up to 50 people around you when you get hit, but in that video, he casts it and it looks like all the people standing around him get vengance applied to them.... So does it apply vengance to all around you, or does it hurt everyone around you when you get hit? So confused. 99 HP, Attack, Strength, Defence, Summoning, Ranged, Herblore, Prayer, Agility, Magic, Slayer, Fletching, Fishing, Woodcutting, Mining, and Thieving. Jagex'd out of my untrimmed hp cape on 6/14/2011.
April 8, 201115 yr lol so they don't even know how to make skulls blue like the icon shows; extra awesomeness!! :thumbdown: And yeah, can we get facts straight? Does vengeance group work both ways or something?
April 8, 201115 yr lDoes vengeance group work both ways or something? tbh i hope this, i like both ways so much lol [hide=drops]10 black masks, 39 dragon boots, 21 whip, 9 dark bow, 7 dragon legs, 8 mauls, 3 dragon left half, 2 dragon spear, 2 hexcrest, 1 kbd heads, 10 dragon med, 2 R ammy, 2 granite legs, 1 bandos boots , 1 bandos hilt , 1 bandos chestplate, 1 saradomin sword(ls), 2 dragon claws(ls)(solo)[/hide][hide=Viralaether's guide to Mac use]1) take your mac2) drop it off your roof3) ??????4) Profit![/hide]1/7/9 quest cape ||| 5/6/9 all diaries ||| 7/14/9 300 rank MA ||| 4998th to 99 summoning on 2/27/10
April 8, 201115 yr Author If it does work like I originally assumed, I guess this isn't a totally lost cause. Well, except that Vengeance doesn't affect Nex anyway, which is probably the only situation people would be serious enough to get it for...Then again, it might. There have been a ton of little loopholes like that (IE newer cannons working in non-multi)...
April 8, 201115 yr From what I gather - Vengeance Group = Vengeance other on a group of players within a 3*3 radius with 'Accept Aid' turned on. Useful for Corporeal Beast
April 8, 201115 yr I guess this will be good for bork's ork legions, or soulwars. :/ I'm actually glad you can't give multiple people vengeance, I'd hate to be playing soulwars and be rushed by a grave rush team of vengeance boosted players. X_X RSN: Cool Guy878 "D2S" (lost all my friends after a 2 year break, feel free to add me.)
April 8, 201115 yr tbh i hope this, i like both ways so much lol Wat http://www.[Caution! Jagex Rule Violation].com
April 8, 201115 yr Author I guess this will be good for bork's ork legions, or soulwars. :/ I'm actually glad you can't give multiple people vengeance, I'd hate to be playing soulwars and be rushed by a grave rush team of vengeance boosted players. X_XActually, I think we just confirmed that it's the latter - giving a group Vengeance...
April 8, 201115 yr I guess this will be good for bork's ork legions, or soulwars. :/ I'm actually glad you can't give multiple people vengeance, I'd hate to be playing soulwars and be rushed by a grave rush team of vengeance boosted players. X_XActually, I think we just confirmed that it's the latter - giving a group Vengeance..."Vengeance Group is a Lunar spell released with Livid Farms on 4 April, 2011. It casts Vengeance Other on up to 30 players within a 3x3 square around the caster. When activated, all players around the caster receive the effect of vengeance. It has a cooldown of 30 seconds." http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Group_Vengeance Yep, you're right. Boosted grave rush anyone? EDIT: From rswiki RSN: Cool Guy878 "D2S" (lost all my friends after a 2 year break, feel free to add me.)
April 8, 201115 yr I guess this will be good for bork's ork legions, or soulwars. :/ I'm actually glad you can't give multiple people vengeance, I'd hate to be playing soulwars and be rushed by a grave rush team of vengeance boosted players. X_XActually, I think we just confirmed that it's the latter - giving a group Vengeance..."Vengeance Group is a Lunar spell released with Livid Farms on 4 April, 2011. It casts Vengeance Other on up to 30 players within a 3x3 square around the caster. When activated, all players around the caster receive the effect of vengeance. It has a cooldown of 30 seconds." http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Group_Vengeance Yep, you're right. Boosted grave rush anyone? EDIT: From rswiki More like instant KO of anyone barraging/camping a grave.
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