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12-Jul-2011 – Jadinko Lair


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What price are normal whips selling at?
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My response to all the people who "knew" the upgraded whip would be better than chaotics:


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Was right about alot of things concerning this update but for the fact that they'd make it a lackluster special weapon with barely any boost over the normal whip. Was well prepared for the update- the 201's are very easy to kill(they are dark beasts with graphics and animations, btw), but they can hit very hard, up to around 350(most i was hit was around 320, but some was absorbed). Torva is definitely very useful there- with full torva, dragon defender and steel titan(for 15% more melee def bonuses) i got hit very rarely, so i maybe needed to soul-split around 600-800 lp back every 5 minutes. Didn't get any drops and left once everyone figured out bringing mage.

As for them as a slayer monster, they won't be fast xp(around 35-38k an hour) and they are unagressive, so you can't at all afk them. The whip vine is bound to crash hard, while whips are entirely unaffected.

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The spec seems useless for wildy as your target would need to stand still for it to keep hitting.

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I'm surprised that a weapon that requires 80 slayer and 85 attack to use is inferior to the rapier to be honest. 80 dg takes a week with dgs or (lord help you) 2 weeks with w117, it's not exactly a long skill to train. Slayer on the other hand, usually is at least a few days between levels if you're not nolifing it. Also, 85 attack is well, higher than 80 attack.

I was just under the impression that more rigorous stats to wield inherently meant a better weapon. I guess I'll look forward to the lv90 tier of gear being worse than chaotics then.
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Special attack is pretty useless. The damage done by the vine is affected by your armor. Against 407 slash attack the special attack only hit me twice. Rest were all 0s. Korasi or dragon claws are better, against high Defence at least.


Uhh, that's called defence. All attacks are affected by defence, expect for Korasi's.

This special seems like it could be useful against low defence monsters. By the sounds of it, it won't be too useful in PvP because it stops if your opponent is out of range.


Hmmm - if you're in a multi-target zone, is the special multi-target too? :unsure:

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Got a whip vine after a bit under an hour.
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I'm surprised that a weapon that requires 80 slayer and 85 attack to use is inferior to the rapier to be honest. 80 dg takes a week with dgs or (lord help you) 2 weeks with w117, it's not exactly a long skill to train. Slayer on the other hand, usually is at least a few days between levels if you're not nolifing it. Also, 85 attack is well, higher than 80 attack.


If they had done that, then Dunge would have gone down the toilet as far as a training skill. The main reason anyone does DG is for the chaotics and the Frosties -- mmmm, chocolate goodness ...

Uh -- ok -- no not THOSE frosties, but still.

I was just under the impression that more rigorous stats to wield inherently meant a better weapon. I guess I'll look forward to the lv90 tier of gear being worse than chaotics then.


Well - perhaps, perhaps not. If the level 90 gear is only provided by, say "Nex's cousin's uncle's brother's former roomate", or another series of DG Floors and 100+ dunge requirements, then expect the level 90 gear to be pretty decent.

If it's something like LRC phase 2, then no -- it'll be crap.

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Found a bug in it already. It is possible to damage players in non-pvp with the spec. It is quite easy to figure out so expect an update/fix soon.

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Hm, anyone now the new stats?

got a drop but sold it.

1 stop closer to turm :))))))))

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Special attack is pretty useless. The damage done by the vine is affected by your armor. Against 407 slash attack the special attack only hit me twice. Rest were all 0s. Korasi or dragon claws are better, against high Defence at least.


Uhh, that's called defence. All attacks are affected by defence, expect for Korasi's.

This special seems like it could be useful against low defence monsters. By the sounds of it, it won't be too useful in PvP because it stops if your opponent is out of range.


Hmmm - if you're in a multi-target zone, is the special multi-target too? :unsure:


No... why on earth would it do that? Seriously have no idea how you somehow even thought it might do that and what you're basing that on.

People really need to learn to read the knowledge base when updates come out (or at all) the number of stupid questions I saw while in game was crazy. I managed to read up on everything and was still the first one on my server to the new area and got in a number of kills before anyone else showed up whilst still knowing what I needed to know about the area.

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I've heard they drop something called a bolas, not sure what it is but it's in the quick chat, and I heard some people saying they found one. Anyone know what that is? :P

you make using there 100% drops

there range wep and it makes them not able to attk you as far as i know

atm i have 99 of them
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Special attack is pretty useless. The damage done by the vine is affected by your armor. Against 407 slash attack the special attack only hit me twice. Rest were all 0s. Korasi or dragon claws are better, against high Defence at least.


Uhh, that's called defence. All attacks are affected by defence, expect for Korasi's.

This special seems like it could be useful against low defence monsters. By the sounds of it, it won't be too useful in PvP because it stops if your opponent is out of range.


Hmmm - if you're in a multi-target zone, is the special multi-target too? :unsure:


No... why on earth would it do that? Seriously have no idea how you somehow even thought it might do that and what you're basing that on.

People really need to learn to read the knowledge base when updates come out (or at all) the number of stupid questions I saw while in game was crazy. I managed to read up on everything and was still the first one on my server to the new area and got in a number of kills before anyone else showed up whilst still knowing what I needed to know about the area.


You need a glass of water? You seem pretty heated.

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Special attack is pretty useless. The damage done by the vine is affected by your armor. Against 407 slash attack the special attack only hit me twice. Rest were all 0s. Korasi or dragon claws are better, against high Defence at least.


Uhh, that's called defence. All attacks are affected by defence, expect for Korasi's.

This special seems like it could be useful against low defence monsters. By the sounds of it, it won't be too useful in PvP because it stops if your opponent is out of range.


Hmmm - if you're in a multi-target zone, is the special multi-target too? :unsure:


No... why on earth would it do that? Seriously have no idea how you somehow even thought it might do that and what you're basing that on.

People really need to learn to read the knowledge base when updates come out (or at all) the number of stupid questions I saw while in game was crazy. I managed to read up on everything and was still the first one on my server to the new area and got in a number of kills before anyone else showed up whilst still knowing what I needed to know about the area.


1. Not everyone has access to the knowledge base before it comes out, like some people do.

(b) Not everyone has access to Runescape, or the knowledge base, when new material is released. Runescape is a blocked site from my workplace, and I am at work at the moment, so bear with me.

(iii) You DO realize that, 65% of the time, the Knowledge Base, when releasing new material, is WRONG, don't you?

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kb is usually wrong on specifics for stats/numerical data, but the general info is good.

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Just a heads up guys.

Mod Ninja came into my world and asked questions, if we had any problems, ect. While he was there, someone asked him what the drop rate of the Whip Vine was. Mod Ninja said that he couldn't say the drop rate.

But then someone said "Probably 1/512, like the whip"

To which Mod Ninja replied "That would be a good prediction though. ;)"

So the drop rate is probably a little below or higher than that.
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Lol got one on my first kill.

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You [bleep] -.-

Well looks like another thing I cant outbeat 138's, by the time I get one the price will be os low that I wont be able to buy 95 pray. I hate you jagex.

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Special attack is pretty useless. The damage done by the vine is affected by your armor. Against 407 slash attack the special attack only hit me twice. Rest were all 0s. Korasi or dragon claws are better, against high Defence at least.


Uhh, that's called defence. All attacks are affected by defence, expect for Korasi's.

This special seems like it could be useful against low defence monsters. By the sounds of it, it won't be too useful in PvP because it stops if your opponent is out of range.


Hmmm - if you're in a multi-target zone, is the special multi-target too? :unsure:


No... why on earth would it do that? Seriously have no idea how you somehow even thought it might do that and what you're basing that on.

People really need to learn to read the knowledge base when updates come out (or at all) the number of stupid questions I saw while in game was crazy. I managed to read up on everything and was still the first one on my server to the new area and got in a number of kills before anyone else showed up whilst still knowing what I needed to know about the area.


Hah, reading/information gathering plebeans. A true slayer will find out everything he needs from his environment, in a moment's notice.
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Any info on what the charm droprate is?

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Any info on what the charm droprate is?


Not very good. Not common and they only drop 1 at a time.

Btw guys, Mage Def+Pray melee is the best way to go about this.

I've seen MANY 130+ almost die because they went there in bandos and prayed mage. The thing hit 300+s on them.
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Special attack is pretty useless. The damage done by the vine is affected by your armor. Against 407 slash attack the special attack only hit me twice. Rest were all 0s. Korasi or dragon claws are better, against high Defence at least.


Uhh, that's called defence. All attacks are affected by defence, expect for Korasi's.

This special seems like it could be useful against low defence monsters. By the sounds of it, it won't be too useful in PvP because it stops if your opponent is out of range.


Hmmm - if you're in a multi-target zone, is the special multi-target too? :unsure:


No... why on earth would it do that? Seriously have no idea how you somehow even thought it might do that and what you're basing that on.

People really need to learn to read the knowledge base when updates come out (or at all) the number of stupid questions I saw while in game was crazy. I managed to read up on everything and was still the first one on my server to the new area and got in a number of kills before anyone else showed up whilst still knowing what I needed to know about the area.


1. Not everyone has access to the knowledge base before it comes out, like some people do.

(b) Not everyone has access to Runescape, or the knowledge base, when new material is released. Runescape is a blocked site from my workplace, and I am at work at the moment, so bear with me.

(iii) You DO realize that, 65% of the time, the Knowledge Base, when releasing new material, is WRONG, don't you?

:rolleyes:


1) The knowledge base is updated before the game update is live, most of the time anyway. Usually from the moment the news article is up (and sometimes before). I had time to read up on everything to get at least a basic understanding before the 10 minute countdown had finished.

b) People who are playing at that moment in time obviously have access to the RuneScape site. There were people asking what the various fruits do, when it clearly states that in the knowledge base.

iii) Making up statistics does not help prove your point. While there is quite a lot of information which is off, the general premise and information in the knowledge base is correct. It's usually only numbers which are off which I imagine is due to the team that update the Knowledge base using outdated figures given to them by the developers. Using the knowledge base is a fantastic way to get the basic understandings of an update, which many people seem to lack. So no, it's not wrong when releasing new material if what you're looking for is information and a general feel for what the update contains.




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