Wait where does the teles of the medallion takes you exactly, barrows I hear?

 

1. South of Burgh bank

2. The entrance of Barrows

3. The blisterwood tree in Darkmeyer

4. The myreque hideout in Meriyditch

5. Meryditch labs underneath the city, about 30s away from Mutated Bloodvelds

Oh wow.

 

Now I don't have to grind Temple trekking for those teleports!

 

Does the medallion use charges?

Oh wow.

 

Now I don't have to grind Temple trekking for those teleports!

 

Does the medallion use charges?

 

Not if you're in the Mortanyia(sp?) area.

Oh wow.

 

Now I don't have to grind Temple trekking for those teleports!

 

Does the medallion use charges?

 

It has 10 charges but can be recharged at a blood fountain by Burgh de Rott. It takes a matter of seconds, really.

Oh wow.

 

Now I don't have to grind Temple trekking for those teleports!

 

Does the medallion use charges?

Yes, you have 10 charges. But the recharge spot is right next to the burgh de rott teleport.

YouTube - The Branches of Darkmeyer Trailer

(Couldn't get embedding to work for some reason. So here's a link to the video)

 

Uploaded not long ago on the official RS YT channel. Sorry if someone already posted it, just wanted to discuss this and i felt that a new topic wasn't necessary.

 

My question is, why all the hate for this video? As I'm looking at it now it has 963 likes, and 625 dislikes. I haven't done the quest yet myself, but i've heard good reviews about it and about basically everything Jagex has done east of Paterdomus in the past month. And not to mention i think this trailer was epic. I might wait until i get my new computer so i can do the quest in HD full screen.

 

Is it simpily just because players are lashing out against jagex with anything they do because of the botting epidemic?

My question is, why all the hate for this video? As I'm looking at it now it has 963 likes, and 625 dislikes. I haven't done the quest yet myself, but i've heard good reviews about it and about basically everything Jagex has done east of Paterdomus in the past month. And not to mention i think this trailer was epic. I might wait until i get my new computer so i can do the quest in HD full screen.

 

There will always be a mass of cranky players downvoting every one of Jagex's videos because they "ruined Runescape" or "released the update a day late" or "fix bots or I thumbs down your video, Failgex"

I went straight here after reading the update news to say this:

 

What if Jagex, in their overzealous addiction to greed and capitalism (they are owned by short term investors who care more for the money than the game's reputation or its REAL players) are slowly going to start making quest guides and then:

 

• 1. Demand that the fansites let them use the fansite quest guides for quests they're too lazy to write themselves or threaten to shut them down.
  
• 2. After that, they will later demand that all quest guides be taken off of fansites.
  
• 3. With a monopoly on quest guides, Jagex will charge a "small amount" of $0.49-$0.99 for you to be able to see said quest guide or add $1-2 a month for you to be able to use them whenever you'd like.
  

 

You may think I'm whacked off on a high but let me ask you this: Did you ever expect Jagex to bring back Wildy/Trade with no real solutions to the original problem? Or to be more lax on the rules with the majority of their memberbase even though everything about that member base screams "ILLEGAL".

 

This isn't the Jagex you love. It's not even the one you remember. It's not even the one you know. Be prepared.

 

(Dont care if anyone has said this yet. I have a delay on my bright idea switch.)

 

Excuse me, but just because these people have money, but don't know how to make more of it doesn't make them capitalists. It makes them idiots. Don't rope us Capitalists in with these dingleberries. <_<

I haven't done the quest yet myself, but i've heard good reviews about it and about basically everything Jagex has done east of Paterdomus in the past month. And not to mention i think this trailer was epic.

Anything east of paterdomus is excellent, and this last quest apparently reinforces that notion.

I went straight here after reading the update news to say this:

 

What if Jagex, in their overzealous addiction to greed and capitalism (they are owned by short term investors who care more for the money than the game's reputation or its REAL players) are slowly going to start making quest guides and then:

 

• 1. Demand that the fansites let them use the fansite quest guides for quests they're too lazy to write themselves or threaten to shut them down.
  
• 2. After that, they will later demand that all quest guides be taken off of fansites.
  
• 3. With a monopoly on quest guides, Jagex will charge a "small amount" of $0.49-$0.99 for you to be able to see said quest guide or add $1-2 a month for you to be able to use them whenever you'd like.
  

 

You may think I'm whacked off on a high but let me ask you this: Did you ever expect Jagex to bring back Wildy/Trade with no real solutions to the original problem? Or to be more lax on the rules with the majority of their memberbase even though everything about that member base screams "ILLEGAL".

 

This isn't the Jagex you love. It's not even the one you remember. It's not even the one you know. Be prepared.

 

(Dont care if anyone has said this yet. I have a delay on my bright idea switch.)

 

I had a long reply written but then I realized it was unnecessary. This is the internet. You cannot restrict information on it unless you live in a communist country.

Well I managed to finish the quest, finally once I worked out my lag issues ... :blink:

 

Logged in early in the evening on W48, and it was lagging so bad in Darkmeyer that I turned down all the graphics settings to minimal and shut down all sounds and chats even then it was still lagging so noticeably, that I thought I must have a virus, or something.

 

So I logged off and did a scan found nothing ... :unsure:

 

So, I figured it must be the sheer amount of traffic on that particular world or my internet connection so I logged back in and checked for the lowest PING world I could find (W27 was under 40), logged into that world and ... still lagging, bad.

 

So, I figured, what the heck, let's see how bad this battle can go, right?

 

So, I walked in -- we chatted and I died! :blink: No idea what happened one second we're talking, next thing I am dead. Tellied back to Darkmeyer, collected my gear and logged out.

 

Ok so I figured there's NO WAY, I can do that battle with THAT much lag. So I decided to log out for a bit, and come back MUCH later in the evening and try this battle again when, perhaps, there would not be so many people on.

 

So I grabbed a nap and set an alarm to wake me for 2:00 AM. Logged in to my "old faithful" W54, which is usually quiet at that time.

 

Left my settings on Minimal had virtually no lag and beat him ... Quest complete! :thumbsup:

 

Ya know, in SOME ways I am not looking forward to ROTM ... :unsure:

I went straight here after reading the update news to say this:

 

What if Jagex, in their overzealous addiction to greed and capitalism (they are owned by short term investors who care more for the money than the game's reputation or its REAL players) are slowly going to start making quest guides and then:

 

• 1. Demand that the fansites let them use the fansite quest guides for quests they're too lazy to write themselves or threaten to shut them down.
  
• 2. After that, they will later demand that all quest guides be taken off of fansites.
  
• 3. With a monopoly on quest guides, Jagex will charge a "small amount" of $0.49-$0.99 for you to be able to see said quest guide or add $1-2 a month for you to be able to use them whenever you'd like.
  

 

You may think I'm whacked off on a high but let me ask you this: Did you ever expect Jagex to bring back Wildy/Trade with no real solutions to the original problem? Or to be more lax on the rules with the majority of their memberbase even though everything about that member base screams "ILLEGAL".

 

This isn't the Jagex you love. It's not even the one you remember. It's not even the one you know. Be prepared.

 

(Dont care if anyone has said this yet. I have a delay on my bright idea switch.)

 

I had a long reply written but then I realized it was unnecessary. This is the internet. You cannot restrict information on it unless you live in a communist country.

 

Not to mention that there is a HELL of a lot more to Fansites than just "Quest Guides".

 

Just sayin' ... :unsure:

I went straight here after reading the update news to say this:

 

What if Jagex, in their overzealous addiction to greed and capitalism (they are owned by short term investors who care more for the money than the game's reputation or its REAL players) are slowly going to start making quest guides and then:

 

• 1. Demand that the fansites let them use the fansite quest guides for quests they're too lazy to write themselves or threaten to shut them down.
  
• 2. After that, they will later demand that all quest guides be taken off of fansites.
  
• 3. With a monopoly on quest guides, Jagex will charge a "small amount" of $0.49-$0.99 for you to be able to see said quest guide or add $1-2 a month for you to be able to use them whenever you'd like.
  

 

You may think I'm whacked off on a high but let me ask you this: Did you ever expect Jagex to bring back Wildy/Trade with no real solutions to the original problem? Or to be more lax on the rules with the majority of their memberbase even though everything about that member base screams "ILLEGAL"?

 

This isn't the Jagex you love. It's not even the one you remember. It's not even the one you know. Be prepared.

 

(Dont care if anyone has said this yet. I have a delay on my bright idea switch.)

 

I had a long reply written but then I realized it was unnecessary. This is the internet. You cannot restrict information on it unless you live in a communist country.

 

Not to mention that there is a HELL of a lot more to Fansites than just "Quest Guides".

 

Just sayin' ... :unsure:

 

Where in my post was that said? All I said was Jagex slowly but surely will force fansites to take down their quest guides in order enact Nail #46 in the coffin and make more money off their players. We all use quest guides. It's simply sinister and brilliant to slowly implement a system where you have to pay money for the only recognized place for quest guides.

 

I am fully aware fansites > quest guides.

My question is, why all the hate for this video? As I'm looking at it now it has 963 likes, and 625 dislikes. I haven't done the quest yet myself, but i've heard good reviews about it and about basically everything Jagex has done east of Paterdomus in the past month. And not to mention i think this trailer was epic. I might wait until i get my new computer so i can do the quest in HD full screen.

 

There will always be a mass of cranky players downvoting every one of Jagex's videos because they "ruined Runescape" or "released the update a day late" or "fix bots or I thumbs down your video, Failgex"

I think there are more people not playing runescape voting against it then people that play runescape :P

I went straight here after reading the update news to say this:

 

What if Jagex, in their overzealous addiction to greed and capitalism (they are owned by short term investors who care more for the money than the game's reputation or its REAL players) are slowly going to start making quest guides and then:

 

• 1. Demand that the fansites let them use the fansite quest guides for quests they're too lazy to write themselves or threaten to shut them down.
  
• 2. After that, they will later demand that all quest guides be taken off of fansites.
  
• 3. With a monopoly on quest guides, Jagex will charge a "small amount" of $0.49-$0.99 for you to be able to see said quest guide or add $1-2 a month for you to be able to use them whenever you'd like.
  

 

You may think I'm whacked off on a high but let me ask you this: Did you ever expect Jagex to bring back Wildy/Trade with no real solutions to the original problem? Or to be more lax on the rules with the majority of their memberbase even though everything about that member base screams "ILLEGAL"?

 

This isn't the Jagex you love. It's not even the one you remember. It's not even the one you know. Be prepared.

 

(Dont care if anyone has said this yet. I have a delay on my bright idea switch.)

 

I had a long reply written but then I realized it was unnecessary. This is the internet. You cannot restrict information on it unless you live in a communist country.

 

Not to mention that there is a HELL of a lot more to Fansites than just "Quest Guides".

 

Just sayin' ... :unsure:

 

Where in my post was that said? All I said was Jagex slowly but surely will force fansites to take down their quest guides in order enact Nail #46 in the coffin and make more money off their players. We all use quest guides. It's simply sinister and brilliant to slowly implement a system where you have to pay money for the only recognized place for quest guides.

 

I am fully aware fansites > quest guides.

 

Well -- there's nothing Jagex can do, really, to keep "guides" from being posted on fansite forums such as this one, is there? :unsure:

C'mon guys, keep it civil please.

 

 

Anyways, Octarine told me about this, and I'm not sure if it has been posted but I would it was pretty cool:

 

 

For those of you whom the reference might escape - it's a Doctor Who reference to the companions the Doctor currently has - Amelia and Rory. :D

I went straight here after reading the update news to say this:

 

What if Jagex, in their overzealous addiction to greed and capitalism (they are owned by short term investors who care more for the money than the game's reputation or its REAL players) are slowly going to start making quest guides and then:

 

• 1. Demand that the fansites let them use the fansite quest guides for quests they're too lazy to write themselves or threaten to shut them down.
  
• 2. After that, they will later demand that all quest guides be taken off of fansites.
  
• 3. With a monopoly on quest guides, Jagex will charge a "small amount" of $0.49-$0.99 for you to be able to see said quest guide or add $1-2 a month for you to be able to use them whenever you'd like.
  

 

You may think I'm whacked off on a high but let me ask you this: Did you ever expect Jagex to bring back Wildy/Trade with no real solutions to the original problem? Or to be more lax on the rules with the majority of their memberbase even though everything about that member base screams "ILLEGAL"?

 

This isn't the Jagex you love. It's not even the one you remember. It's not even the one you know. Be prepared.

 

(Dont care if anyone has said this yet. I have a delay on my bright idea switch.)

 

I had a long reply written but then I realized it was unnecessary. This is the internet. You cannot restrict information on it unless you live in a communist country.

 

Not to mention that there is a HELL of a lot more to Fansites than just "Quest Guides".

 

Just sayin' ... :unsure:

 

Where in my post was that said? All I said was Jagex slowly but surely will force fansites to take down their quest guides in order enact Nail #46 in the coffin and make more money off their players. We all use quest guides. It's simply sinister and brilliant to slowly implement a system where you have to pay money for the only recognized place for quest guides.

 

I am fully aware fansites > quest guides.

 

Well -- there's nothing Jagex can do, really, to keep "guides" from being posted on fansite forums such as this one, is there? :unsure:

 

Jagex does own the content. So anything written about Jagex content could be claimed as copyright infringment if I'm not mistaken.

I went straight here after reading the update news to say this:

 

What if Jagex, in their overzealous addiction to greed and capitalism (they are owned by short term investors who care more for the money than the game's reputation or its REAL players) are slowly going to start making quest guides and then:

 

• 1. Demand that the fansites let them use the fansite quest guides for quests they're too lazy to write themselves or threaten to shut them down.
  
• 2. After that, they will later demand that all quest guides be taken off of fansites.
  
• 3. With a monopoly on quest guides, Jagex will charge a "small amount" of $0.49-$0.99 for you to be able to see said quest guide or add $1-2 a month for you to be able to use them whenever you'd like.
  

 

You may think I'm whacked off on a high but let me ask you this: Did you ever expect Jagex to bring back Wildy/Trade with no real solutions to the original problem? Or to be more lax on the rules with the majority of their memberbase even though everything about that member base screams "ILLEGAL"?

 

This isn't the Jagex you love. It's not even the one you remember. It's not even the one you know. Be prepared.

 

(Dont care if anyone has said this yet. I have a delay on my bright idea switch.)

 

I had a long reply written but then I realized it was unnecessary. This is the internet. You cannot restrict information on it unless you live in a communist country.

 

Not to mention that there is a HELL of a lot more to Fansites than just "Quest Guides".

 

Just sayin' ... :unsure:

 

Where in my post was that said? All I said was Jagex slowly but surely will force fansites to take down their quest guides in order enact Nail #46 in the coffin and make more money off their players. We all use quest guides. It's simply sinister and brilliant to slowly implement a system where you have to pay money for the only recognized place for quest guides.

 

I am fully aware fansites > quest guides.

 

Well -- there's nothing Jagex can do, really, to keep "guides" from being posted on fansite forums such as this one, is there? :unsure:

 

Jagex does own the content. So anything written about Jagex content could be claimed as copyright infringment if I'm not mistaken.

 

Just because they own it, can they keep people from "talking about it"? :unsure:

Music industry. Illegally sharing music over the internet is, well, illegal because it's copy right infringement. Illegally downloading music is pretty much copy-right infringement, which is what 99% of what people who download music for free are doing. This isn't some sort of quest guide BS that there is probably absolutely no legal authority to back it, this is something backed by laws saying hey, it's illegal. The music industry hates it and is fighting it. And you know what? The music industry is losing this fight.

 

If the music industry can't stop free music downloads when it is quite clearly (in most cases) clearly against the law, what chance in hell does Jagex have of stopping something that is probably easier to transfer and something that I don't think Jagex has a chance in hell of getting any sort of legal authority to try and get stopped in the first place?

 

Again. This is the internet. Short of living in a communist country or some sort of dictatorship, you cannot censor information on the internet. Hell, even communist countries and dictatorships tend to have problems with it.

C'mon guys, keep it civil please.

 

 

Anyways, Octarine told me about this, and I'm not sure if it has been posted but I would it was pretty cool:

 

 

For those of you whom the reference might escape - it's a Doctor Who reference to the companions the Doctor currently has - Amelia and Rory. :D

 

That's been in RS for over a week, keep up! :P

 

Quest was really enjoyable although I haven't actually beaten the boss yet because my internet sucks but I'll keep trying! At least it's not as expensive as the Nomad battle was in terms of supplies.

C'mon guys, keep it civil please.

 

 

Anyways, Octarine told me about this, and I'm not sure if it has been posted but I would it was pretty cool:

 

 

For those of you whom the reference might escape - it's a Doctor Who reference to the companions the Doctor currently has - Amelia and Rory. :D

 

That's been in RS for over a week, keep up! :P

 

Quest was really enjoyable although I haven't actually beaten the boss yet because my internet sucks but I'll keep trying! At least it's not as expensive as the Nomad battle was in terms of supplies.

 

Try logging in during "off hours" -- it may help with your lag issues! :thumbsup:

Uhm looking at the data: runescape NEVER sends the angle of your camara to the servers..

 

So the RS servers (which handle the damage dealing) can't know how your camara is aligned..

 

What I noticed however is that 1 time I was looking away I was still hit, but in that case I was looking away BEFORE he started his attack, it seems you have to first look towards and then away.

Uhm looking at the data: runescape NEVER sends the angle of your camara to the servers..

 

So the RS servers (which handle the damage dealing) can't know how your camara is aligned..

 

What I noticed however is that 1 time I was looking away I was still hit, but in that case I was looking away BEFORE he started his attack, it seems you have to first look towards and then away.

 

All I know, is that every time he used that attack, I got hit for damage, no matter what I did ... <_<

 

Still managed to kick his undead backside though! :twisted:

I went straight here after reading the update news to say this:

 

What if Jagex, in their overzealous addiction to greed and capitalism (they are owned by short term investors who care more for the money than the game's reputation or its REAL players) are slowly going to start making quest guides and then:

 

• 1. Demand that the fansites let them use the fansite quest guides for quests they're too lazy to write themselves or threaten to shut them down.
  
• 2. After that, they will later demand that all quest guides be taken off of fansites.
  
• 3. With a monopoly on quest guides, Jagex will charge a "small amount" of $0.49-$0.99 for you to be able to see said quest guide or add $1-2 a month for you to be able to use them whenever you'd like.
  

 

You may think I'm whacked off on a high but let me ask you this: Did you ever expect Jagex to bring back Wildy/Trade with no real solutions to the original problem? Or to be more lax on the rules with the majority of their memberbase even though everything about that member base screams "ILLEGAL".

 

This isn't the Jagex you love. It's not even the one you remember. It's not even the one you know. Be prepared.

 

(Dont care if anyone has said this yet. I have a delay on my bright idea switch.)

 

Don't be silly, don't be ignorant. Jagex has always written a guide for every quest. All they're doing is making it more available to the majority of players, rather than unlocking a paragraph a day via QuestHelp. These quest guides are detailed, have a unique 'house style' and can offer intriguing specific information, such as (as mentioned above) taunting with a gadderhammer.

 

They're keen to work with fansites on this, as evidenced by their fansite programs and statement in the FAQ. However, they released this particular guide to jump-start the issue and get some helpful discussion going on. I think it's a great idea, personally, as the maps seem so much more helpful than something your average fansite will always produce and they can do it immediately.

 

The guide is always done, and it's done to a professional standard. They aren't going to start nicking fansite's guides, because the devs need to write a quest guide anyway, largely so that their QA team can do it quickly and check any bugs-for example, they might not notice specially coded things if they weren't using a Jagex-written guide.

 

However, fanistes have a lot more to offer than quest guides, and even in quests, they can offer a lot more than Jagex. With regard to tough bosses such as Nomad and Vanstrom your average fansite can get a storm of ideas going that will suit almost any player and be very helpful and clear. Jagex won't be doing that, because aside from telling you what the attacks are, they expect you to get on with it and not exploit mechanics. In particular, they want you to approach the content naturally, and not just stick by a pillar for the whole fight, carefully use a kyatt, and so on. Instead, they might hint that the pillars are handy for hiding from some of the stronger attacks, and that summoning would probably be a good idea.

 

Jagex can hardly sue a fansite for publishing a quest guide, particularly as there are many, many fansites around now. All they can do is remove a status, whcih won't make a great deal of difference (look at Zybez-platinum is nice, but it isn't the world). They are fully aware, too, that making guides available for purchase would mean no-one reads them: something that Jagex are trying to avoid. What they're doing here is trying to make sure the work they do is even more useful to the average player, rather than being locked away behind questhelp.

 

 

Do I expect Jagex to change? Well, yes, of course I do. Every organisation changes. Do I think I should panic, and tell people 'watch out! it's coming!'? No.

I went straight here after reading the update news to say this:

 

What if Jagex, in their overzealous addiction to greed and capitalism (they are owned by short term investors who care more for the money than the game's reputation or its REAL players) are slowly going to start making quest guides and then:

 

• 1. Demand that the fansites let them use the fansite quest guides for quests they're too lazy to write themselves or threaten to shut them down.
  
• 2. After that, they will later demand that all quest guides be taken off of fansites.
  
• 3. With a monopoly on quest guides, Jagex will charge a "small amount" of $0.49-$0.99 for you to be able to see said quest guide or add $1-2 a month for you to be able to use them whenever you'd like.
  

 

You may think I'm whacked off on a high but let me ask you this: Did you ever expect Jagex to bring back Wildy/Trade with no real solutions to the original problem? Or to be more lax on the rules with the majority of their memberbase even though everything about that member base screams "ILLEGAL".

 

This isn't the Jagex you love. It's not even the one you remember. It's not even the one you know. Be prepared.

 

(Dont care if anyone has said this yet. I have a delay on my bright idea switch.)

 

Don't be silly, don't be ignorant. Jagex has always written a guide for every quest. All they're doing is making it more available to the majority of players, rather than unlocking a paragraph a day via QuestHelp. These quest guides are detailed, have a unique 'house style' and can offer intriguing specific information, such as (as mentioned above) taunting with a gadderhammer.

 

They're keen to work with fansites on this, as evidenced by their fansite programs and statement in the FAQ. However, they released this particular guide to jump-start the issue and get some helpful discussion going on. I think it's a great idea, personally, as the maps seem so much more helpful than something your average fansite will always produce and they can do it immediately.

 

The guide is always done, and it's done to a professional standard. They aren't going to start nicking fansite's guides, because the devs need to write a quest guide anyway, largely so that their QA team can do it quickly and check any bugs-for example, they might not notice specially coded things if they weren't using a Jagex-written guide.

 

However, fanistes have a lot more to offer than quest guides, and even in quests, they can offer a lot more than Jagex. With regard to tough bosses such as Nomad and Vanstrom your average fansite can get a storm of ideas going that will suit almost any player and be very helpful and clear. Jagex won't be doing that, because aside from telling you what the attacks are, they expect you to get on with it and not exploit mechanics. In particular, they want you to approach the content naturally, and not just stick by a pillar for the whole fight, carefully use a kyatt, and so on. Instead, they might hint that the pillars are handy for hiding from some of the stronger attacks, and that summoning would probably be a good idea.

 

Jagex can hardly sue a fansite for publishing a quest guide, particularly as there are many, many fansites around now. All they can do is remove a status, whcih won't make a great deal of difference (look at Zybez-platinum is nice, but it isn't the world). They are fully aware, too, that making guides available for purchase would mean no-one reads them: something that Jagex are trying to avoid. What they're doing here is trying to make sure the work they do is even more useful to the average player, rather than being locked away behind questhelp.

 

 

Do I expect Jagex to change? Well, yes, of course I do. Every organisation changes. Do I think I should panic, and tell people 'watch out! it's coming!'? No.

 

Still sticking to my slightly kooky theory. I do respect you for taking the time to point out all that information though. But with music industry there's several labels and artists and fans and download sites, etc.

 

With the situation we're discussing, most of the legit fansites are known. Jagex would know exactly where to go to. One company, one issue, not so many targets to hit as the RIAA.

 

I do admit that lifting the guides from the fansites was utter baloney. But I stick to the rest of my post.