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No tipping here in Estonia. Absolutely none, except only for restaurants aimed at tourists. Everything is paid for as much as is written on the cheque/label. Yet I know that for example in Egypt tipping can get you a long way. And sometimes you can't get something you paid for in advance without tipping.

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So I've noticed this thread's regulars all follow similar trends.

 

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Saq is totally oblivious to how much chicks dig him.

I strike out every other week.

Kalphite wages a war against the friend zone.

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Always found the idea of tipping every meal idiotic. You don't give people extra reward for doing their job (which they are rewarded already for in salary). Problem is, at least in the US, many waiters (most?) make sub minimum wage as said before, like under 3$ an hour. If they don't pull in tips they're [bleep]ed.

 

I would prefer that waiters were paid minimum wage and tipping be reserved for exceptional service. And the tip would go only to your waiter, nobody else (rewarding others for one person's hard work...derp).

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I normally will tip in the 10%-15% range, unless the service is sub par. What I don't like are places asking for tips that have no place asking for them in the first place, especially if there is an obvious chance to tip before you get your food (because you just know their going to spit on it or something if you don't tip). I generally won't deal with places like that because I feel like I'm being forced to pay extra (and if I have to, its normally around 5%).

 

Tim Hortons still takes tips I think, which has always bugged me. They are fast food, and have no place asking for them. Besides, everyone who works for them seems to hate their job, so your lucky if your not being scowled at.

 

I'd say around here that even giving a 10% tip could be low enough to be frowned upon to most people. It's just a culture thing I guess.

 

 

As a side point, if your not going to tip, then don't eat at the same place twice, or you get to imagine all the creative things the chef and waiter are going to do to your meal when one of the staff recognizes you as 'that [wagon] who didn't tip last time'.

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I'd only tip if I was getting a tattoo done. Here it's usually common courtesy to tip the tattooist doing your work $20+, simply because of the immense time they spend and careful hands they have, obviously if they did screw up not only would you not tip them, but then court matters might happen, but that's a different discussion.

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Anyone who delivers food to your house deserves to be tipped.

 

Because it's not like that's what their employer pays them to do or anything :roll: Not to mention delievery costs extra money regardless of you leaving a tip or not.

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I'm cheap, so I only tip if the service was great, or those who served did an exceptional job at it. If for whatever reason me or those I'm with gave them a hassle when it wasn't needed, then I might tip also, for having to put up with us.

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Anyone who delivers food to your house deserves to be tipped.

 

Because it's not like that's what their employer pays them to do or anything :roll: Not to mention delievery costs extra money regardless of you leaving a tip or not.

Go pick up the food yourself then instead of making another person use their car and gas while risking their lives to deliver your food.

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Anyone who delivers food to your house deserves to be tipped.

 

Because it's not like that's what their employer pays them to do or anything :roll: Not to mention delievery costs extra money regardless of you leaving a tip or not.

Go pick up the food yourself then instead of making another person use their car and gas while risking their lives to deliver your food.

Where's this food going to? Somalia?

 

I'm not generally a believer that "doing your job properly" deserves a special reward. It's what should be expected in the first place.

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Anyone who delivers food to your house deserves to be tipped.

 

Because it's not like that's what their employer pays them to do or anything :roll: Not to mention delievery costs extra money regardless of you leaving a tip or not.

Go pick up the food yourself then instead of making another person use their car and gas while risking their lives to deliver your food.

Where's this food going to? Somalia?

 

I'm not generally a believer that "doing your job properly" deserves a special reward. It's what should be expected in the first place.

The food's going to your house, because not only did you decide that you didn't want to make the food, you decided that you didn't even want to go through the effort of leaving your home to get it. Any number of things can happen to a driver that isn't his fault. Somebody could drive into him, an accident could be blocking traffic on his way to you, he could be robbed, it could be blazing hot or freezing outside and he still has to get the food to you in a timely manner. Not to mention that a lot of the time they also have to do other jobs in between deliveries like washing dishes or preparing dough.

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The same is true for just about every commuter in the country. Why does the fact they're carrying food, or the fact I'm lazy, make any difference? They're being paid to do it, they can refuse the job if they don't want it. Just like any other job.

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Most pizza delivery places (at least in my experience...and I've ordered A LOT OF PIZZA) normally charge a $1.50 delivery fee. That money is used to help offset the delivery driver's wage. When I delivered pizzas, the drivers would "tip out" the cooks our tip money so not to create an utter hatred between the two factions in the workplace.

 

Just as a side note, I wouldn't make it a habit of not tipping pizza/sub delivery people. We remember which apartments or houses tip well and which don't. I've seen cooks or delivery boys mess with people's food if they know the person doesn't tip well. It's in your best interest to flip them at least a couple bucks.

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I think what's important here is that tipping generally applies when you can go the extra mile in a job. If I delivered hot food, I could deliver it within a few seconds of the advertised maximum delivery time and shove the box into your arms without a care in the world, or I could deliver it really early, be polite at the door and get a tip. That's why tips exist, it's to encourage service beyond what's strictly acceptable.

 

If I worked at a fast food place, I couldn't really do much to help the customer beyond taking in an order and shoving the food on a tray, which is on the job description. Hence, no tips.

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The same is true for just about every commuter in the country. Why does the fact they're carrying food, or the fact I'm lazy, make any difference? They're being paid to do it, they can refuse the job if they don't want it. Just like any other job.

A trucker gets paid well, doesn't use their own car (most of the time), and are the only option when someone needs a large shipment moved a long distance while you yourself can just pick up your food. And it's never as simple as just refusing the job. People need to work and have to take any job they can get.

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The same is true for just about every commuter in the country. Why does the fact they're carrying food, or the fact I'm lazy, make any difference? They're being paid to do it, they can refuse the job if they don't want it. Just like any other job.

A trucker gets paid well, doesn't use their own car (most of the time), and are the only option when someone needs a large shipment moved a long distance while you yourself can just pick up your food. And it's never as simple as just refusing the job. People need to work and have to take any job they can get.

Newsflash: Same applies to all of us, not just 18-year-old waitresses or delivery boys. I also do what others would perceive to be a crappy, minimum wage job, and I have to pay £3.50 out of my own pocket for the bus trip everyday just so I can have a chance at earning a wage at all. Where's my tip? I don't expect one, that's where. Myself and many millions of other workers on NMW just get on with it without feeling as though people "owe" us something due to proper social etiquette. I think this is where you'll find cultural differences between the US and the UK: as a worker, I expect my wage to be good enough in the first place that customers shouldn't have to pay me tips just to make it 'fair'.

 

For what it's worth, I generally tip £1 or £2, or more just to round up the bill to a multiple of five, even if I know whoever served me will only receive a fraction of it. Same goes for taxi drivers, unless they place "additional charges" for having more than one person in the cab. If they do that, they've already forced me to pay a tip as far as I'm concerned.

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I don't understand how you can go from saying that if someone doesn't like their job they can just quit and then jump to how bad your job is. I'm sorry that your job isn't deemed "tip worthy", but to me and apparently millions of others, delivering food directly to somebody's door is the extra mile compared to other minimum wage jobs.

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I don't understand how you can go from saying that if someone doesn't like their job they can just quit and then jump to how bad your job is. I'm sorry that your job isn't deemed "tip worthy", but to me and apparently millions of others, delivering food directly to somebody's door is the extra mile compared to other minimum wage jobs.

I agree with this. In terms of delivery or waiting, you're going to extra mile in terms of personal service, and I see no harm in tipping someone for that.

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I always tip, and pretty well. I often patronize the same places very frequently and spend an hour or two there with my friends, sometimes even more and I only get like french fries. I usually tip 20-25% at the places I'm a regular customer or if I receive something I consider to be "exceptional service". Average service on a larger bill I usually give pretty close to 15% exactly. If it's actually bad service, I'll give a pretty shitty tip or not at all.

 

Personal preference is really all it comes down to to me. If you don't want to tip on your own then I really don't care, but if you're eating with me I'm going to make you throw in a buck or two.

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Hah, talking about deliveries: truck drivers. Nobody ever tips them, yet they go through perilious roads and weather. Hell, sometimes THEY have to pay to get the load off the trailer.

 

Pizza delivers got it easy.

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I dislike how tipping has become a social etiquette even if the service provided is considered inadequate/mediocre. The fundamental purpose of tipping - to express gratitude in a monetary form, has been lost - it has become an expectation. I despise those who deem it's necessary to sabotage someone's product on the basis that they don't tip - it's counterproductive and simply immoral.

 

In the UK, tips aren't mandatory - there's no expectation of a tip, but it's appreciated. I tip depending on the type of service being provided, and the initial cost of the product itself. It's not linear with the price I pay for the products either - I wouldn't tip £50 on a £500 good, but I'd tip at least £20.

 

It really depends on the situation. I'd tip in a bar, a casino, a venue, and anywhere else that involves a high level of social interaction between myself (the consumer) and the employee. I wouldn't tip a fast food worker, though - it's typical that they don't go beyond the obligations of the job description.

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Hah, talking about deliveries: truck drivers. Nobody ever tips them, yet they go through perilious roads and weather. Hell, sometimes THEY have to pay to get the load off the trailer.

 

Pizza delivers got it easy.

Truckers get paid per mile right?

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