archimage_a Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 *You rest**Everyone except Elgretor died mysteriously* http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Fair warning, all of those spells are 4th level for you, and I don't know if you have access to desecrate or not (if you don't, that would make it difficult for you). Also, I don't have a spellbook (why use a spellbook when you can just ask god nicely?) and out of the three I only have a scroll of animate dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resistance Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Fair warning, all of those spells are 4th level for you, and I don't know if you have access to desecrate or not (if you don't, that would make it difficult for you). Also, I don't have a spellbook (why use a spellbook when you can just ask god nicely?) and out of the three I only have a scroll of animate dead. Although (because of the level) they're not terribly useful in combat they'll be invaluable for any ventures we have on the island, especially animate dead. I can copy down the other scrolls later. Retech, does the elephant's gore attack still work if the tusks are removed? If not would I be able to put some sharpened wood in to replace them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 It does not, but you can replace them as you mentioned. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony  The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resistance Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 And are you able to make juju zombies with animate dead? If you kill a creature of an already undead subtype are you allowed to animate it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Not with just animate dead, you need create undead for them (and skeletal champions too, unfortunately). If you kill an undead creature and the body is not destroyed then yes, you should be able to animate it (Don't even think about it, the dragon has more HP than you, and I can make the squid fly (yes that's right [bleep], a flying zombie giant squid. That's angry.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resistance Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Not with just animate dead, you need create undead for them (and skeletal champions too, unfortunately). If you kill an undead creature and the body is not destroyed then yes, you should be able to animate it (Don't even think about it, the dragon has more HP than you, and I can make the squid fly (yes that's right [bleep], a flying zombie giant squid. That's angry.).I don't plan to be taking the dragon, especially so since if I did it wouldn't gain any of the special attacks since they've already been lost from the application of the zombie template. I was looking at a way to safely make oozes undead (I understand juju zombie doesn't do this) since they seem perfect for guarding a lair/killing pirates/SedridalRetech, do you think with a high enough craft (alchemy) score I would be able to create some oozes? The description states that some they were made by wizards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted September 7, 2012 Author Share Posted September 7, 2012 Craft alchemy probably doesn't go far enough and they would regardless not be under your control. This seems to fall under the realm of magical knowledge that needs to be experimented on or discovered. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony  The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 http://www.archivesofnethys.com/feats.htm#ooze-companion http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 If we don't cross paths with Sedrial for at least one level, I should be able to just plane shift her to Thenatos's court in Axis (or the plane of shadows), so Sedrial won't be guaranteed to die, and it would be kind of cool for Nex. It's the best possibility tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 If we don't cross paths with Sedrial for at least one level, I should be able to just plane shift her to Thenatos's court in Axis (or the plane of shadows), so Sedrial won't be guaranteed to die, and it would be kind of cool for Nex. It's the best possibility tbh.That would be a cooler option if it didn't entail me being stuck with a bunch of useless dudes in the middle of a jungle pissing up trees and trying not to get cannibalized for the next several weeks worth of session. On the other hand, it gives me time to find that Sword of the Planes I've been wanting, find out whether I can take deific planes as favored terrain, and means I won't be on the receiving end of at least one Enervation. 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Remember how fast we burnt through level 7-8 (1 session iirc, or close to it). Now extrapolate what's going to go down when the kobolds learn about what we've done. If we can survive the ensuing war (it's entirely possible, but I'm going to need more onyx, and permission to make some custom undead) we'll probably gain a level or two. Also, you may still end up eating an enervation or two to lower your will save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Oooh. Maybe it's a GOOD thing Shadow stayed on the boat for you guys. Won't have to deal with all the crazy Kobolds. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted September 8, 2012 Author Share Posted September 8, 2012 Oooh. Maybe it's a GOOD thing Shadow stayed on the boat for you guys. Won't have to deal with all the crazy Kobolds. About that... Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony  The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Oh dear, apparently I'm going to be the first target then? Aww.. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Well if retech will have let me leave you a couple of scrolls (2 of sky swim, 2 of ride the waves, 1 of air walk, and 1 of Blessing of Fervor), and if you have a fairly high UMD score, this could still end decently. Remember, the squid is with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted September 8, 2012 Author Share Posted September 8, 2012 That's fine with me. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony  The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resistance Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Are we desperate to keep the isle we're inhabiting a secret? As long as we keep any of the illicit activities underground I don't see a problem. Grim, would you use speak with dead on the corpse of the blue kobold to find the location of the location of the other Treasure Hoard with the collection from the shackles (with the vorpal greataxe worth 200,000 GP). You should be asking where the main kobold base is, where the next most-valuable hoard is and what what are the weaknesses of these two areas. The create treasure map spell would have been perfect for this, should I take this over rope trick or will speak with dead give the same level of information. It will reveal three sources of treasure which the kobold knew about and in the top three there is likely his personal treasure hoard which is going to unprotected. I have 32.75 lbs. in my Handy Haversack. This means that I can carry 67.25 pounds of treasure inside it. I can then lift another 350 lbs. off the ground. We can use squeezing rules to squeeze through a stone shape which we could probably do in a few days provided both me and Grim do it. After that we can all just fly up and get back onto the ship.Option 2 would simply be to clear the rocks which were collapsed and came out the way we went in. We may risk getting attacked again (and the commune spell revealed that other kobolds were aware of our being here) but they're going to be far lower level. The total weight of the treasure is 1,050 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphin Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 As long as we are still within 720 feet of the exit, I can dimension door us all out. I worked around the limits. If I use bull's strength on myself, I can carry all of the treasure and the extra person without going over my maximum load, then I can cast dimension door on two people and myself, and transport us back to the boat. The reason I need to be carrying somebody when I cast it is that my dimension door only affects myself and two people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Erm, you do know that we have a bit of a pack animal in the dragon, right? As in, it has a light load of 1596 pounds . I'd advise teleporting the dragon and myself with you the first time, with most of the treasure, and then having us guard the boat, while you go back (Also, the two of us (with the dragon) would probably be the best able to deal with the remaining kobolds). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resistance Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/51375833/PathfinderMather.rtf Mather's Character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphin Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Erm, you do know that we have a bit of a pack animal in the dragon, right? As in, it has a light load of 1596 pounds . I'd advise teleporting the dragon and myself with you the first time, with most of the treasure, and then having us guard the boat, while you go back (Also, the two of us (with the dragon) would probably be the best able to deal with the remaining kobolds).Oh, sure. That works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I think something got [bleep]ed up when it was translated from a .rtf file format. Because the stats don't correlate with their respective bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resistance Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Yeah, I copied it down using Elegrator .rtf so that they were consistent. I accidentally copied down having a high INT. It has now been fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 What happened to the Multitalented racial trait? It should have allowed my to chose two classes. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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