April 20, 200620 yr A quick look at the pure ess offers on the official forums shows that pure ess is going for 40-50 gp each. That is about the same as the price of regular ess some time ago. So far so good. No need for dramatics.
April 20, 200620 yr lol some of you people amaze me.....even if the essence go to 100 gp each you are making at least 3 times your investment and thats if natures laws and deaths even stay at 300 each...... If it does then i've made a 78gp + ea investment into 20k ess. Can you give me a $$? Please. The self-proclaimed king of bronze.
April 20, 200620 yr An excellent update. It should stop a large number of autoers, for a while at least, until they re-prgram their bots for something like yew cutting. However, the only true way of drastically reducing autoers is to stop trading between f2p and p2p. Autoers would not be able to generate the levels of GP that they do if they were restricted in this way as they make most of their gains by using f2p accounts to obtain the item, eg essence, and then selling to p2p players (who are prepared to buy them). If the auoers decided to switch to p2p then they would risk losing their subscription, plus it would be easier to permanantly ban people as they would have to give more accurate personal details to get accounts. PS the update does not affect me as I never mine essence anyway. I always get my essence from drops (either Banshees or abyss) and always craft my own Nat and Law runes for my own use. So, as long as the drops are Pure essence I will be unaffected
April 20, 200620 yr I think that the best solution to this problem is to make pure ess 60+ mining and f2p can mine it. Another solution could be that you need a quest that actualy requires combat based skills to complete and the reward would be you could mine pure rune ess.
April 20, 200620 yr 15k worth of ess turned into "members object" now i cant touch it for a week... this blows
April 20, 200620 yr All across the world (i.e. communities) I've seen nothing but complaints and whining. What are you all whining about? That essence prices will jump to 100gp each? That buying in bulk from Freeplay is no longer possible? ... Are those things really worth whining about? Let me tell you something. Even if essence prices DID jump to 100gp each, then you'd still make a 200gp profit per nature. That's three essences per nature. Don't feed me anything that says that's not too bad. Sure, it's not as strong/good as the last system (10 essences per nature), but this is a decent change. If you're unable to make money off of Runecrafting, perhaps it's time to choose a new skill. One-trick ponies that have been seen all over the world eventually get old and boring. This is why there's so many skills in the game; in my opinion, if one skill made a mass majority of the money the other 20 would be worthless. Time heals all wounds. Dry your eyes and you'll eventually get over it. Jagex is also working to fix their little bug, so don't gripe about that either. Take five, scream into a pillow, and dust off your Atari and have some fun if it bothers you that much. Linux User/Enthusiast | Full-Stack Software Engineer | Stack Overflow Member | GIMP User...Alright, the Elf City update lured me back to RS over a year ago.
April 20, 200620 yr now THATS a way to lure people to members! :shock: At least it will deter the guys that macro, because they don't want pay ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã3.20/$5 a month. Pins for GP anyone? Like I said before, this will do diddly squat. It just makes the F2P - P2P divide greater, which I personally think is a disgrace. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you.
April 20, 200620 yr now THATS a way to lure people to members! :shock: At least it will deter the guys that macro, because they don't want pay ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã3.20/$5 a month. The way I see it, they'll just be helping jagex by becoming members. The difference in pure essences versus the other kind in price will be so big that it will be worth it for them to pay the five bucks for the character to become a member, and them autoing pure essence would pretty quickly cover the five dollars and go beyond. Eventually they'd obviously get banned, but they would have made the five bucks back so it wouldn't matter to them. I guess the way jagex could have looked at it is that there will always be autoers no matter how hard they work to combat it, but at least have those autoers be p2p.
April 20, 200620 yr The price of ess will go up. Then nat prices will go up. Then alcs will want to buy yew longs for less. Then the long makers will not want to get less money for same work. Then no one will but longs or nats then much of the market will crash. That is the worst case scenario. I think pure ess will stay around 40-60 mark because there still is so much auto'ed ess around. I like how the cut cheaters out of the game but it the market went for a worse.
April 20, 200620 yr ITS NOT PURE ESSENCE ITS PURE DISASTER!!! eh well you wanna know where the laws and nats come from in this game...f2pers we just craft em they get the ess... you know how many p2pers get their ess from f2p: all of them you know how many p2per miner there are: none! cuz theres so much better things to do ehh well law runnings ruined(i think they did this for stopping law runs too) thsi ruins a good chunk of nat and death crafting Trix.--quit WoW as of 12/07Thank you 4be2jue for the wonderful sig and avatar!
April 20, 200620 yr The price of pure ess will go up - the price of regular ess will go down. Ess used to cost between 20 and 30 gp each, more or less for bulk sales (depending on the buyer and the seller) I got a lot of P2P members willing to sell me pure ess at 33gp each - so I think the cries of pure ess is going to go over 100gp each highly unlikely! (If it does - I can see a fair few RCers dusting off their pics!) I dont mind paying up to 35gp each for ess (for multiples of 1k) - as I see it, it is giving the lower level P2P members a hand to get some money so they can buy the things they want to get. Doutless there will be some out there who seek to profit and try and force the prices up - it will just be up to the rest of us to refuse to pay over inflated prices. Normal ess is still good to make the 'standard' runes - only complaint I have is I now need to allow an extra slot in my bank account. That is going to hurt! With RCing, Farming, Herblore and mining there are very few spare slots available! Thanks to 4be2jue for the sigs. There are 10 types of people in the world - those that understand binary and those that don't!
April 20, 200620 yr ITS NOT PURE ESSENCE ITS PURE DISASTER!!! eh well you wanna know where the laws and nats come from in this game...f2pers we just craft em they get the ess... you know how many p2pers get their ess from f2p: all of them you know how many p2per miner there are: none! cuz theres so much better things to do ehh well law runnings ruined(i think they did this for stopping law runs too) thsi ruins a good chunk of nat and death crafting Sorry Darkmage, not picking on you, yours was just the last post I saw in this train of thought :wink: I really don't see why it's such a big issue. Sure pure ess will go up in price, but: a) As a runecrafter if ess goes up in price too much know what i'll do to keep making high margins on my laws? Mine my own - yep it's possible! It's all about trade off, if it the cost of ess out weighs the time it takes to mine it the decision is simple. B) Law running will keep going for exactly the same reason. Those that can afford to pay high prices will do so, the skill just becomes more expensive to "buy". Those that want to level quickly but can't afford pure ess will just mine their own as well. c) The only real losers in all this are the genuine f2p ess miners - that's who I feel sorry for. But there are a few other ways to make money even in f2p. Each skill can be used to sustain every other, there's no real need to have hordes of cash it just makes life that bit easier. Same as real life really :D
April 20, 200620 yr ITS NOT PURE ESSENCE ITS PURE DISASTER!!! you know how many p2pers get their ess from f2p: all of them Get your facts right - not all p2p get ess from f2p. I would guess only about 75% Some do mine ess (only a very small number and only usually low lev players), whilst others, like myself, get our ess from drops (Banshees and Abyss creatures being the best).
April 20, 200620 yr Get your facts right - not all p2p get ess from f2p. I would guess only about 75% Some do mine ess (only a very small number and only usually low lev players), whilst others, like myself, get our ess from drops (Banshees and Abyss creatures being the best). But have you thought - what type of ess will they be dropping from now on? Have Banshees and Abyss creatures got the necessary skills to mine pure ess? :D Thanks to 4be2jue for the sigs. There are 10 types of people in the world - those that understand binary and those that don't!
April 21, 200620 yr Get your facts right - not all p2p get ess from f2p. I would guess only about 75% Some do mine ess (only a very small number and only usually low lev players), whilst others, like myself, get our ess from drops (Banshees and Abyss creatures being the best). But have you thought - what type of ess will they be dropping from now on? Have Banshees and Abyss creatures got the necessary skills to mine pure ess? :D I would assume that as Banshees and Abyss creatures are p2p only that they will drop Pure essence. I will need to check.
April 21, 200620 yr Pure yews are coming out next.. I'm guessing that too. Probably there will be two kinds of yews, one that can only be for fletching and the other that can only be for firemaking.
April 21, 200620 yr looks like my idea of getting members by next month just flushed down the drain. i am definatly not going to get members until this settles down, because one of my main goals was crafting and selling nats, or crafting and fletching yew long bows. :shock: has anyone checked up on the yew prices lately? could this possible effect the alchers that fletch the yews and bowstrings, then alch?
April 21, 200620 yr i think its quite an elaborate cover up for the real problems... rcing being such an easily buyable skill, and the fact that it is just so profitable. furthermore... this won't stop marcoers, as stated before, they'll just craft there ess to airs likely, then be making just as much or possibly more money... why don't they just outright segregate p2p for f2p...
April 21, 200620 yr One of the smartest ideas I have ever seen Jagex come up with.... In the future I could see this happen to other items also. First place Winner of Nick 6464 F2P custom contest.
April 21, 200620 yr One of the smartest ideas I have ever seen Jagex come up with.... In the future I could see this happen to other items also. How can you call that being smart? More f2p items being downgraded to fake versions would ruin and disconnect the two versions even more. I for one don't want 'pure wood' that you can use to fletch with, and 'decaying wood' that you can like only burn or something. "Healthy fish" for members, and "sickly fish" for f2p that heal less food and burn more often? "Pure ore" and "impure ore" that you need double the coal to make into a bar? I know I'm going far with this (I'm just enjoying making up bad examples :P ), but my point is that separating the two games by making the impure essence mostly useless for p2p is a step in the wrong direction in my opinion. Imagine if the two games were completely split apart so you couldn't p2p couldn't even go onto f2p worlds, separated into two different games. Again, Jagex is doing a good job stopping autoers for a little while, but eventually they overcome whatever blockade is made, and what's left is just a major inconvienence to everyone else who isn't involved with this big mess.
April 21, 200620 yr well im glad i recently bought 40k ess for lvl 75 RC. 30k left... RSN: Bantam222 [105 combat] [1578 total level]Support my quest for 1600 Skill Total!
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