Should spanking children be allowed?

[Ragen]

Should spanking be allowed?

 

I think so. Nowadays parents seem to have no real sanctions available to them. Sure they can ground you, but will it make an impression on you? Probally not. The best way to learn a lesson is to have it attatched to pain. I learnt not to ride my bike to fast because I fell off and hurt myself. I learnt not to play with wasps because they sting. I learnt not to hit my sister because I got spanked.

 

Before I continue I would like to point out the difference between spanking (which I am ok with) and beatings (which I am not ok with). In a spanking the child is humiliated and given a small ammount of physical pain delivered with an open hand. In a beating often a weapon is used (belt, ruler, shoe ect) or the child may be punched or kicked. The difference is that one mearly inflicts pain and the other actually damages the childs body. Beating are cruel and unnessecary. I also believe that they are the cause for the current no spanking law as people were taking their sanctions to far. So they stopped any hurting of the child at all, even if it was on a reasonable level.

 

Another spanking issue is that of school masters and canes. This I kind of agree with if it was done only to very young children and done with an open hand opposed to a cane. I say this because my mum is a teacher and some of the things that the little brats do need to be punished properly. Because the were never spanked, they never learnt any respect. So you can't punish them as all they do is laugh. They don't associate bad behaviour with pain, only the laughter of their class mates. I know that most kids are badly behaved at the age of 6 and 7 but the teachers I asked, including my mum, all said that things got worse when spanking was abolished.

 

So I say bring back spanking in schools (KS1 only I think) and for parents. That should bring some respect back into society.

[Punc]

Hmm, a very light slap should be allowed, more like a tap or something, and it should only be used as last option, because if you slap your kid alot, it a) won't have any effect and B) it would be child abuse.

 

I wouldn't allow it at school, I can't image being slapped by a teacher, it would cause kids to dislike school even more and it's not needed in my opinion...

[Bubsa]

If parents think physical punishment is the most effective way to deter behaviour, then I pity them more than a child.

 

 

 

Not only is it cruel (when used to excess), but it is ineffective.

[pianofrieak2]

If parents think physical punishment is the most effective way to deter behaviour, then I pity them more than a child.

 

 

 

Not only is it cruel (when used to excess), but it is ineffective.

 

 

 

You know it is ineffective how? What's wrong with positive peer pressure? (In the school setting at least)

[tintmangbpack]

In my opinion physical punishment should never be an option when disciplining a child. Spanking just shows that the parent can't control the situation well enough to punish the child without use physical force. Usually grounding a child from something the dearly enjoy works, also sitting down with them and telling what they did was wrong works.

 

 

 

In my opinion spanking seems like something a parent does because they don't want to take the time to truly teach a child.

[Bubsa]

If parents think physical punishment is the most effective way to deter behaviour, then I pity them more than a child.

 

 

 

Not only is it cruel (when used to excess), but it is ineffective.

 

 

 

You know it is ineffective how? What's wrong with positive peer pressure? (In the school setting at least)

 

 

 

I should of added, in my experience. Granted, it won't be the same for everybody, but nothing is.

[logic-is-overrated]

I think discipline used in moderation at proper times is seriously beneficial. Of course it's not for all children and I think it is the job of the parent or other gaurdian to learn how their child reacts to different sorts of punishments and figure out what is the most effective and beneficial.

[Faux]

Yes.

[Ragen]

Oops forgot to add - Spanking doesn't need to be done many times, I believe that once is enough and just the threat of it should stop a child from misbehaving. You shouldn't beat a child everytime it plays up. That would be unfair, ineffective and cruel.

[indy500fan]

two pictures came to mind when i saw the title of this topic:

 

 

 

 

 

 

actually i cant find the other one, but it was a picture of the dog whisperer from the south park episode :P

[Biabf]

It shouldn't be allowed because it hurts and doesn't do anything apart from make your child scared of you. From my experience.

[Google90]

Ive been spanked all my life and now have learned not to do what's wrong...its effective..Ive threatened to call the police on my dad, but the look he gives me after that makes feel like not calling them :o

 

 

 

 

 

My dad would send me out to the woods, get a thin branch...make ME strip the leaves and he would hit me with that lol

[Ragen]

Ive been spanked all my life and now have learned not to do what's wrong...its effective..Ive threatened to call the police on my dad, but the look he gives me after that makes feel like not calling them :o

 

 

 

 

 

My dad would send me out to the woods, get a thin branch...make ME strip the leaves and he would hit me with that lol

 

 

 

Thats why I think it got banned. Parents wouldn't use reasonable force. A sharp slap on the buttocks is enough. Using a branch to whip a child is what I class as beating them.

[knives669]

I believe that pistol whipping children should be acceptable.

 

 

 

Ha ha. Just kid. Just kid.

 

 

 

I am a pacifist and I certainly believe that violence should never be used to solve anything.

 

 

 

And, I say this, as a child who has been physically punished by a parent with anger problems. I believe that it's definately a parent's choice on whether or not they want to spank their children. But, if you decide to, once or twice is enough. Also, it is very very wrong to take stress/anger out on your child when you spank them.

 

 

 

My mom is an Elementary school Special Education teacher. Many parents just don't want to put up with their children and depend on the child's teacher to do it for them. Most of the children in her class have genuine problems. But some children in her class simply have behavioral problems. They're spoiled children whose parents obviously never punished them and they simply have sat around in school, not making an effort to learn anything. All those children really need is for someone to say "no" to them and to punish them when they do something wrong. Or as my mom says, "All they need is a good spanking." And I can honestly agree with her. It really seems like that would be the only thing to help them. Kinda like when you get fed up with a bully at school, so you teach him a lesson by giving him a nice punch to the face. You punch him hard enough, he'll get the message, and never bother you again.

 

 

 

But, all things being said, I do believe that it is possible to be a good parent without spanking your child.

[dark_ice]

I think spanking is a good method of discipline. It should only be used when warnings and such won't work. I have 5 nieces and nephews so I know how young children react to ALL types of discipline methods. Alot of the time when verbal warnings are given or time outs are administered the child will jus back talk or do w/e it is even more. When spanked the child realizes..."hey that hurt, im not doing that again." But anytime my bro and sis spank their kids they will always hug and talk to them about it afterwards and make sure the child understand why he got that certain punishment etc etc...

[Adam007]

With my experiences if you raise your child right you shouldn't need to spank him/her in the first place. I think if the child has done something extremely wrong he/she can be spanked so he/she knows how bad it was, but only in rare cases, and not as a general punishment.

[imhomer]

Ok here's how it works. I live in South East Michigan (the place in the US surrounded by all the lakes for those across the pond :wink: ) Anyways, in the last presidential election our area was the only area in all of Michigan to vote democratic (i.e. liberal/ leftist). The point of this is that I live in a place surrounded by people who think that spanking is wrong and shouldn't be allowed, even outlawed.

 

 

 

I will say this, when I was young, I was spanked in the manner described above (only hands, no weapons or punching etc.) Personally I think this has worked very well with myself and I am ashamed to see so many parents letting it fall into disuse.

 

 

 

The problem today is that parents today (especially those liberal ones stated above) treat children with the rights of adults but none of the responsibilities. I am personally offended when I go to a restaurant with my family and the table next to us has a screaming 5 year old.

 

 

 

In an example I remember, the 5 year old kid was angry because he wanted to leave instead of waiting for the parents to finish eating. It was completely infuriating to me when the parents began pleading with the kid to stop which only gave him the attention he wanted in the first place. Afterwards, they bought him a dessert for "being so good tonight".

 

 

 

(I was about ready to walk over and smack the kid's entire family at this point)

 

 

 

If I had done the same thing as a child these things would have been done in this order:

 

1. I would have been shushed or told to be quiet

 

2. I would have a hand put over my mouth and be given a second and final warning

 

3. I would be spanked and begin to lose privilages such as TV

 

4. I would be taken outside and spanked again (and harder/more times) and lose more privilages for longer

 

Bear in mind that this was meant to be done in public places.

 

 

 

A lot of people see spanking as cruel and inhumane but they seem to ignore the main reason to spank people. It's similar to the medieval stocks. The point isn't to be physically painful so much as be the scene of public humiliation.

 

 

 

Spanking just shows that the parent can't control the situation well enough to punish the child without use physical force.

 

 

 

Ok, counter-attack! The parent can't control the situation without violence. Your quote is right on as far as being correct. The reason for using it is faulty. The reason parents spank is because they can't control the situation. You see there are levels of escalation that occur. I have never known or seen a parent hit a child, first-offense, without any warning. Parents have advantages over children; reason, knowledge, experience, and finally physical strength. Saying you can't physically punish a kid is like saying that everything should be solved without war. Sometimes there are just no other options available to a parent.

 

 

 

Usually grounding a child from something the dearly enjoy works, also sitting down with them and telling what they did was wrong works.

 

 

 

Ok, I agree with you again for the most part. Usually grounding/the loss of privilages is enough to bring a child into line. Also having the child tell you what they did wrong is very effective because then they have to think and understand what they did wrong. However, both you and I said usually and I think spanking should be that last resort instead of throwing the practice into the garbage heap.

 

 

 

In my opinion spanking seems like something a parent does because they don't want to take the time to truly teach a child.

 

 

 

It has been proven that children are not fully capable of percieving the consequences of their actions until around age 12 (hence the being tried as an adult at that age). Not meaning to offend anyone but up until that point, we humans are basically more intelligent animals not fully capable of reasonable thought. A universal language is pain (and humiliation) which can be understood by all animals. If, when I was very young, I broke a vase (a cliche I know) I would be spanked for not being careful. I would then be more careful the next time to try and avoid pain and humiliation. If I were simply talked to it would be like asking a chimp what it did wrong. It might know what it should say to get out of trouble, but it would not really comprehend it.

 

 

 

Just my very long 2 cents,

 

 

 

Agree with me or die! :wink:

[tintmangbpack]

I do agree with you and most people on here that spanking can be used in certain circumstances. I just think that there are always alternatives to spanking. I guess what I mean is that the parent should be able to find an alternative form of punishment.

 

While spanking can be used correctly, I just cringe everytime I see a young child being hit. For some reason it just deeply disturbs me.

 

 

 

Basically it is just a personal decision that I have made to not spank. But what other people do is under their discretion and I while I would prefer no spanking if done properly it is okay. Just please don't abuse little children. I beleive that there is almost nothing worse then abusing a child.

[bjbj1991]

I feel punishment should be permited by parents in the form of spanking and grounding. There are a few cases that I am disterbed about. About a weekago I saw a quote on a blog that efectivly said the government should not get involved in family afairs and I should have to right to beat the $@%$ out of my children whenever I want :shock: :shock: :shock: .

[Bloodyrb]

you probably spank children alot dont u :P

 

 

 

spanking shouldnt be allowed only in exctremely chases lo

[azntemplar_00]

I was spanked as a child and remember experiencing intense feelings of anger towards my dad. Now that I look back, I don't really hold anything against my dad from all those years ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ã

[insane]

Whether spanking is appropriate or not should really be judged on a case-by-case basis. It depends on the child, the parent, and the method used.

 

 

 

Some children do not listen to their parents unless they are spanked. That's just the way it is. I am currently visiting a family in Sweden, where spanking is illegal. They can try everything they want to get the child to behave, but nothing works. They aren't bad parents, because they have children that are older, that were raised when it was legal to spank, and they were spanked, and they are extremely well behaved children without any ill-feelings towards their parents.

 

 

 

However, it should be used in moderation - and should always be followed up with a lecture. Just leaving it at a spanking is ineffective - but when combined with a lecture, is quite a good method of discipline. I was spanked as a child, and am quite thankful for it. I might be a complete a-hole today if it weren't for it, but, who knows eh?

[Tigra00]

If parents think physical punishment is the most effective way to deter behaviour, then I pity them more than a child.

 

 

 

Not only is it cruel (when used to excess), but it is ineffective.

 

 

 

I agree and disagree.

 

 

 

For one, if you cannot strike fear into your kid merely by yelling, you won't be a good parent. If they laugh at you when you yell, you then need to resort to physical force. My parents never had to spank me because yelling was enough. Though my mom did try to spank me once and hurt her hand. :P

 

 

 

Face it, some kids NEED to be spanked nowadays. When I was a kid I got in trouble like everyone else, but now, kids are killing other kids just because they're mad. So yea...A spanking isn't going to hurt them.

 

 

 

I should also add this: After you yell at or spank your kid, you should always apologize later and explain to them why it was necessary. That's what my parents did. If they didn't, I probably would have thought they were jerks while I was growing up, instead, they apologized and explained to my why it was necessary, and I didn't think badly of them for it after that.

[katha610]

im against spanking.. using violence to raise your kid doesnt send the right message ( please no " ya but if you spank it not that hard" posts)

 

 

 

ive been raised without spanking and i will raise my kids without

[Riku3220]

ok i'd just like to ake clear if you get soanked you dont hate your parents you hate hem for that moment in time.

 

 

 

spanking should be allowed how else would they learn withou a little pain? my parents just hit my wrist twice then put me in a corner then after my 5 minutes they told me why i was in trouble and told me to go watch TV or take a nap or something